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Old 06-04-2010
Skybuck Flying
 

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Windows XP (NL): Windows Activation Problem + Windows Automatic Update Problem = Very Slow Computer.
Hello,

Today I visitted my mother for a nice dinner, after the dinner I wanted to
show her something on the computer/internet.

I noticed how the computer was extremely slow, and how the harddisk was
rattling non-stop.

First I was wondering if it was infected with a trojan or a scanner, this
did not appear to be the case.

Then I immediatly started wondering about windows automatic update since I
never trusted it to function properly... I have seen my share of failures
with it...
however the computer is pretty much unmanaged so at least automatic updates
protected it a little bit.

I decided to go to the windows update website for manual updating to see
what was going on... before I did that I stopped windows automatic updates
to verify that it was indeed the culprit and yes it was the pc became fast
again... I re-enabled it and went to the website.

There it took a very long time before there was any feedback... it did the
whole rattle thing over again... I took like 10 minutes or so...

Then it displayed some warning/error message: "Windows Genuine Activation
hulpprogramma failed".

Apperently Microsoft now believes the computer is not genuine ?!? This
computer was bought at a big retailer and should be genuine.

Then it continued rattling...

After having wasted 20 minutes of my life on this b.s. I decided it was
enough and shutdown the iexplore.exe.

For the time being I have disabled windows automatic updates so that the
computer can function normally again.
(This is on windows xp (NL) netherlands edition).

I ask my mother how long this has been going on since my elderly sister was
also complaining about it.

It turns out this has been going on for one month !!!

One full month of slow computer and Microsoft didn't even notice it ?! and
did nothing about it !

I am very unhappy about this.

I have consulted with my mother... she wants to buy a new laptop so she can
sit below... this would require additional wireless routers or so... but
ok...

She wants windows 7 because she hard about it... However I told her Windows
7 is a risk because of it's on-going-security problems.

The old computer can then still be around for the kids to use when to come
visit.

However windows xp nl 32 bit version is about to end it's life cycle.

I said to her and decided that the old computer can continue to keep
functioning until it gets trojaned/hacked and so forth...

After that happens I might pirate the computer and install windows xp x64
pro edition which at least is still supported and does seem to function
normally.

However I always have windows automatic updates off and for good reason
too... if I had it on my computer would have been toasted by Microsoft at
least 2 times, maybe even more.

Windows Automatic Updates/The cure seems to be worse than sickness...
However without the patches computers would be trojaned.

My mother was very smart... when she started about wireless routers she
immediatly recgonized the dangerous:

Wireless routers are unsafe... she wants to do banking across it...

I told her... well safety has improved a little bit... but it's indeed weak
protection... I concurred... you are a smart mother I said...

All in all I am not happy with the situation.

I believe Microsoft should be punished for:

1. Wasting peoples time with defects.

2. Security risks.

Here is my advice for Microsoft/you for now in the future:

In case of though legislation being introduced to go after Microsoft and
it's malfunctions... it would be much smarter for Microsoft to focus on it's
core components of it's operating system and make sure that those are
working flawlessly instead of trying to create "bloatware" which simply
increase attack vectors and requires more security patching.

If computer do get infected by flash then at least it's not Microsoft to
blame.

Do I believe my mother should pay 400 dollars/euro's for Microsoft
Windows... HELL NO !!!

The risks and costs of it to keep it working well are much higher...
especially if I had to bill her for my time.

Until Microsoft delivers an operating system which is 100.0000000% safe I do
not believe people should have to pay for it.

Instead Microsoft should be fined for putting people's time, life and money
at risk.

And yet Microsoft is the same company which wants it's software to run on
cars ?!?

Don't make me laugh !

Bye,
Skybuck.


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Old 06-04-2010
MowGreen
 

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Re: Windows XP (NL): Windows Activation Problem + Windows AutomaticUpdate Problem = Very Slow Computer.
Skybuck Flying wrote:
> Until Microsoft delivers an operating system which is 100.0000000% safe I do
> not believe people should have to pay for it.
>



Have your meds kicked in yet ? Good. Nighty night.


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Old 06-04-2010
Doum
 

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Re: Windows XP (NL): Windows Activation Problem + Windows Automatic Update Problem = Very Slow Computer.
"Skybuck Flying" <IntoTheFuture@hotmail.com> écrivait
news:77564$4c0947bc$54190f09$13326@cache6.tilbu1.n b.home.nl:

> Hello,
>
> Today I visitted my mother for a nice dinner, after the dinner I
> wanted to show her something on the computer/internet.
>
> I noticed how the computer was extremely slow, and how the harddisk
> was rattling non-stop.
>
> First I was wondering if it was infected with a trojan or a scanner,
> this did not appear to be the case.
>
> Then I immediatly started wondering about windows automatic update
> since I never trusted it to function properly... I have seen my share
> of failures with it...
> however the computer is pretty much unmanaged so at least automatic
> updates protected it a little bit.
>
> I decided to go to the windows update website for manual updating to
> see what was going on... before I did that I stopped windows automatic
> updates to verify that it was indeed the culprit and yes it was the pc
> became fast again... I re-enabled it and went to the website.
>
> There it took a very long time before there was any feedback... it did
> the whole rattle thing over again... I took like 10 minutes or so...
>
> Then it displayed some warning/error message: "Windows Genuine
> Activation hulpprogramma failed".
>
> Apperently Microsoft now believes the computer is not genuine ?!? This
> computer was bought at a big retailer and should be genuine.
>
> Then it continued rattling...
>
> After having wasted 20 minutes of my life on this b.s. I decided it
> was enough and shutdown the iexplore.exe.
>
> For the time being I have disabled windows automatic updates so that
> the computer can function normally again.
> (This is on windows xp (NL) netherlands edition).
>
> I ask my mother how long this has been going on since my elderly
> sister was also complaining about it.
>
> It turns out this has been going on for one month !!!
>
> One full month of slow computer and Microsoft didn't even notice it ?!
> and did nothing about it !
>
> I am very unhappy about this.
>
> I have consulted with my mother... she wants to buy a new laptop so
> she can sit below... this would require additional wireless routers or
> so... but ok...
>
> She wants windows 7 because she hard about it... However I told her
> Windows 7 is a risk because of it's on-going-security problems.
>
> The old computer can then still be around for the kids to use when to
> come visit.
>
> However windows xp nl 32 bit version is about to end it's life cycle.
>
> I said to her and decided that the old computer can continue to keep
> functioning until it gets trojaned/hacked and so forth...
>
> After that happens I might pirate the computer and install windows xp
> x64 pro edition which at least is still supported and does seem to
> function normally.
>
> However I always have windows automatic updates off and for good
> reason too... if I had it on my computer would have been toasted by
> Microsoft at least 2 times, maybe even more.
>
> Windows Automatic Updates/The cure seems to be worse than sickness...
> However without the patches computers would be trojaned.
>
> My mother was very smart... when she started about wireless routers
> she immediatly recgonized the dangerous:
>
> Wireless routers are unsafe... she wants to do banking across it...
>
> I told her... well safety has improved a little bit... but it's indeed
> weak protection... I concurred... you are a smart mother I said...
>
> All in all I am not happy with the situation.
>
> I believe Microsoft should be punished for:
>
> 1. Wasting peoples time with defects.
>
> 2. Security risks.
>
> Here is my advice for Microsoft/you for now in the future:
>
> In case of though legislation being introduced to go after Microsoft
> and it's malfunctions... it would be much smarter for Microsoft to
> focus on it's core components of it's operating system and make sure
> that those are working flawlessly instead of trying to create
> "bloatware" which simply increase attack vectors and requires more
> security patching.
>
> If computer do get infected by flash then at least it's not Microsoft
> to blame.
>
> Do I believe my mother should pay 400 dollars/euro's for Microsoft
> Windows... HELL NO !!!
>
> The risks and costs of it to keep it working well are much higher...
> especially if I had to bill her for my time.
>
> Until Microsoft delivers an operating system which is 100.0000000%
> safe I do not believe people should have to pay for it.
>
> Instead Microsoft should be fined for putting people's time, life and
> money at risk.
>
> And yet Microsoft is the same company which wants it's software to run
> on cars ?!?
>
> Don't make me laugh !
>
> Bye,
> Skybuck.
>
>
>


And you are your mother's computer guru?

I feel sorry for her!
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Old 06-04-2010
PA Bear [MS MVP]
 

Posts: n/a
Re: Windows XP (NL): Windows Activation Problem + Windows Automatic Update Problem = Very Slow Computer.
Skybuck Flying wrote:
<snip>
> I ask my mother how long this has been going on since my elderly sister
> was
> also complaining about it.
>
> It turns out this has been going on for one month !!!
>
> One full month of slow computer and Microsoft didn't even notice it ?! and
> did nothing about it !
>
> I am very unhappy about this.


One can only imagine how unhappy you'd be and how much you b****h about it
if Microsoft could (somehow) notice it...

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Old 06-04-2010
surodje
 

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Re: Windows XP (NL): Windows Activation Problem + Windows AutomaticUpdate Problem = Very Slow Computer.
On 4 jun, 20:36, "Skybuck Flying" <IntoTheFut...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Today I visitted my mother for a nice dinner, after the dinner I wanted to
> show her something on the computer/internet.
>


Wat is dat Windows XP?

> Bye,
> * Skybuck.


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Old 06-04-2010
Daave
 

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Re: Windows XP (NL): Windows Activation Problem + Windows Automatic Update Problem = Very Slow Computer.
Skybuck Flying wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Today I visitted my mother for a nice dinner, after the dinner I
> wanted to show her something on the computer/internet.
>
> I noticed how the computer was extremely slow, and how the harddisk
> was rattling non-stop.
>
> First I was wondering if it was infected with a trojan or a scanner,
> this did not appear to be the case.
>
> Then I immediatly started wondering about windows automatic update
> since I never trusted it to function properly... I have seen my share
> of failures with it...
> however the computer is pretty much unmanaged so at least automatic
> updates protected it a little bit.
>
> I decided to go to the windows update website for manual updating to
> see what was going on... before I did that I stopped windows
> automatic updates to verify that it was indeed the culprit and yes it
> was the pc became fast again... I re-enabled it and went to the
> website.
> There it took a very long time before there was any feedback... it
> did the whole rattle thing over again... I took like 10 minutes or
> so...
> Then it displayed some warning/error message: "Windows Genuine
> Activation hulpprogramma failed".
>
> Apperently Microsoft now believes the computer is not genuine ?!? This
> computer was bought at a big retailer and should be genuine.
>
> Then it continued rattling...
>
> After having wasted 20 minutes of my life on this b.s. I decided it
> was enough and shutdown the iexplore.exe.
>
> For the time being I have disabled windows automatic updates so that
> the computer can function normally again.
> (This is on windows xp (NL) netherlands edition).
>
> I ask my mother how long this has been going on since my elderly
> sister was also complaining about it.
>
> It turns out this has been going on for one month !!!
>
> One full month of slow computer and Microsoft didn't even notice it
> ?! and did nothing about it !
>
> I am very unhappy about this.
>
> I have consulted with my mother... she wants to buy a new laptop so
> she can sit below... this would require additional wireless routers
> or so... but ok...
>
> She wants windows 7 because she hard about it... However I told her
> Windows 7 is a risk because of it's on-going-security problems.
>
> The old computer can then still be around for the kids to use when to
> come visit.
>
> However windows xp nl 32 bit version is about to end it's life cycle.
>
> I said to her and decided that the old computer can continue to keep
> functioning until it gets trojaned/hacked and so forth...
>
> After that happens I might pirate the computer and install windows xp
> x64 pro edition which at least is still supported and does seem to
> function normally.
>
> However I always have windows automatic updates off and for good
> reason too... if I had it on my computer would have been toasted by
> Microsoft at least 2 times, maybe even more.
>
> Windows Automatic Updates/The cure seems to be worse than sickness...
> However without the patches computers would be trojaned.
>
> My mother was very smart... when she started about wireless routers
> she immediatly recgonized the dangerous:
>
> Wireless routers are unsafe... she wants to do banking across it...
>
> I told her... well safety has improved a little bit... but it's
> indeed weak protection... I concurred... you are a smart mother I
> said...
> All in all I am not happy with the situation.
>
> I believe Microsoft should be punished for:
>
> 1. Wasting peoples time with defects.
>
> 2. Security risks.
>
> Here is my advice for Microsoft/you for now in the future:
>
> In case of though legislation being introduced to go after Microsoft
> and it's malfunctions... it would be much smarter for Microsoft to
> focus on it's core components of it's operating system and make sure
> that those are working flawlessly instead of trying to create
> "bloatware" which simply increase attack vectors and requires more
> security patching.
> If computer do get infected by flash then at least it's not Microsoft
> to blame.
>
> Do I believe my mother should pay 400 dollars/euro's for Microsoft
> Windows... HELL NO !!!
>
> The risks and costs of it to keep it working well are much higher...
> especially if I had to bill her for my time.
>
> Until Microsoft delivers an operating system which is 100.0000000%
> safe I do not believe people should have to pay for it.
>
> Instead Microsoft should be fined for putting people's time, life and
> money at risk.
>
> And yet Microsoft is the same company which wants it's software to
> run on cars ?!?
>
> Don't make me laugh !
>
> Bye,
> Skybuck.


And *you* want to be *my* latex salesman?


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Old 06-04-2010
MowGreen
 

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Re: Windows XP (NL): Windows Activation Problem + Windows AutomaticUpdate Problem = Very Slow Computer.
Daave wrote:
> And*you* want to be*my* latex salesman?


VanDelay Industries. How can I help you ?


MowGreen
================
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================

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Old 06-04-2010
PA Bear [MS MVP]
 

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Re: Windows XP (NL): Windows Activation Problem + Windows Automatic Update Problem = Very Slow Computer.
Daave wrote:
<blithersnippage>
>> For the time being I have disabled windows automatic updates so that
>> the computer can function normally again.
>> (This is on windows xp (NL) netherlands edition).
>>
>> I ask my mother how long this has been going on since my elderly
>> sister was also complaining about it.
>>
>> It turns out this has been going on for one month !!!
>>
>> One full month of slow computer and Microsoft didn't even notice it
>> ?! and did nothing about it !
>>
>> I am very unhappy about this.

<more blithersnippage>
>
> And *you* want to be *my* latex salesman?


<ROFL>
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Old 06-05-2010
Mike S
 

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Re: Windows XP (NL): Windows Activation Problem + Windows AutomaticUpdate Problem = Very Slow Computer.
On 6/4/2010 11:36 AM, Skybuck Flying wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Today I visitted my mother for a nice dinner, after the dinner I wanted to
> show her something on the computer/internet.
>
> I noticed how the computer was extremely slow, and how the harddisk was
> rattling non-stop.
>
> First I was wondering if it was infected with a trojan or a scanner, this
> did not appear to be the case.
>
> Then I immediatly started wondering about windows automatic update since I
> never trusted it to function properly... I have seen my share of failures
> with it...
> however the computer is pretty much unmanaged so at least automatic updates
> protected it a little bit.
>
> I decided to go to the windows update website for manual updating to see
> what was going on... before I did that I stopped windows automatic updates
> to verify that it was indeed the culprit and yes it was the pc became fast
> again... I re-enabled it and went to the website.
>
> There it took a very long time before there was any feedback... it did the
> whole rattle thing over again... I took like 10 minutes or so...
>
> Then it displayed some warning/error message: "Windows Genuine Activation
> hulpprogramma failed".
>
> Apperently Microsoft now believes the computer is not genuine ?!? This
> computer was bought at a big retailer and should be genuine.
>
> Then it continued rattling...
>
> After having wasted 20 minutes of my life on this b.s. I decided it was
> enough and shutdown the iexplore.exe.
>
> For the time being I have disabled windows automatic updates so that the
> computer can function normally again.
> (This is on windows xp (NL) netherlands edition).
>
> I ask my mother how long this has been going on since my elderly sister was
> also complaining about it.
>
> It turns out this has been going on for one month !!!
>
> One full month of slow computer and Microsoft didn't even notice it ?! and
> did nothing about it !
>
> I am very unhappy about this.
>
> I have consulted with my mother... she wants to buy a new laptop so she can
> sit below... this would require additional wireless routers or so... but
> ok...
>
> She wants windows 7 because she hard about it... However I told her Windows
> 7 is a risk because of it's on-going-security problems.
>
> The old computer can then still be around for the kids to use when to come
> visit.
>
> However windows xp nl 32 bit version is about to end it's life cycle.
>
> I said to her and decided that the old computer can continue to keep
> functioning until it gets trojaned/hacked and so forth...
>
> After that happens I might pirate the computer and install windows xp x64
> pro edition which at least is still supported and does seem to function
> normally.
>
> However I always have windows automatic updates off and for good reason
> too... if I had it on my computer would have been toasted by Microsoft at
> least 2 times, maybe even more.
>
> Windows Automatic Updates/The cure seems to be worse than sickness...
> However without the patches computers would be trojaned.
>
> My mother was very smart... when she started about wireless routers she
> immediatly recgonized the dangerous:
>
> Wireless routers are unsafe... she wants to do banking across it...
>
> I told her... well safety has improved a little bit... but it's indeed weak
> protection... I concurred... you are a smart mother I said...
>
> All in all I am not happy with the situation.
>
> I believe Microsoft should be punished for:
>
> 1. Wasting peoples time with defects.
>
> 2. Security risks.
>
> Here is my advice for Microsoft/you for now in the future:
>
> In case of though legislation being introduced to go after Microsoft and
> it's malfunctions... it would be much smarter for Microsoft to focus on it's
> core components of it's operating system and make sure that those are
> working flawlessly instead of trying to create "bloatware" which simply
> increase attack vectors and requires more security patching.
>
> If computer do get infected by flash then at least it's not Microsoft to
> blame.
>
> Do I believe my mother should pay 400 dollars/euro's for Microsoft
> Windows... HELL NO !!!
>
> The risks and costs of it to keep it working well are much higher...
> especially if I had to bill her for my time.
>
> Until Microsoft delivers an operating system which is 100.0000000% safe I do
> not believe people should have to pay for it.
>
> Instead Microsoft should be fined for putting people's time, life and money
> at risk.
>
> And yet Microsoft is the same company which wants it's software to run on
> cars ?!?
>
> Don't make me laugh !
>
> Bye,
> Skybuck.


If you don't like Windows try Ubuntu. Otherwise try this:

http://www.pchell.com/support/window...dvantage.shtml
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Old 06-05-2010
Skybuck Flying
 

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Re: Windows XP (NL): Windows Activation Problem + Windows Automatic Update Problem = Very Slow Computer.

"Mike S" <mscir@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:huc2vv$2b3$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> On 6/4/2010 11:36 AM, Skybuck Flying wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> Today I visitted my mother for a nice dinner, after the dinner I wanted
>> to
>> show her something on the computer/internet.
>>
>> I noticed how the computer was extremely slow, and how the harddisk was
>> rattling non-stop.
>>
>> First I was wondering if it was infected with a trojan or a scanner, this
>> did not appear to be the case.
>>
>> Then I immediatly started wondering about windows automatic update since
>> I
>> never trusted it to function properly... I have seen my share of failures
>> with it...
>> however the computer is pretty much unmanaged so at least automatic
>> updates
>> protected it a little bit.
>>
>> I decided to go to the windows update website for manual updating to see
>> what was going on... before I did that I stopped windows automatic
>> updates
>> to verify that it was indeed the culprit and yes it was the pc became
>> fast
>> again... I re-enabled it and went to the website.
>>
>> There it took a very long time before there was any feedback... it did
>> the
>> whole rattle thing over again... I took like 10 minutes or so...
>>
>> Then it displayed some warning/error message: "Windows Genuine Activation
>> hulpprogramma failed".
>>
>> Apperently Microsoft now believes the computer is not genuine ?!? This
>> computer was bought at a big retailer and should be genuine.
>>
>> Then it continued rattling...
>>
>> After having wasted 20 minutes of my life on this b.s. I decided it was
>> enough and shutdown the iexplore.exe.
>>
>> For the time being I have disabled windows automatic updates so that the
>> computer can function normally again.
>> (This is on windows xp (NL) netherlands edition).
>>
>> I ask my mother how long this has been going on since my elderly sister
>> was
>> also complaining about it.
>>
>> It turns out this has been going on for one month !!!
>>
>> One full month of slow computer and Microsoft didn't even notice it ?!
>> and
>> did nothing about it !
>>
>> I am very unhappy about this.
>>
>> I have consulted with my mother... she wants to buy a new laptop so she
>> can
>> sit below... this would require additional wireless routers or so... but
>> ok...
>>
>> She wants windows 7 because she hard about it... However I told her
>> Windows
>> 7 is a risk because of it's on-going-security problems.
>>
>> The old computer can then still be around for the kids to use when to
>> come
>> visit.
>>
>> However windows xp nl 32 bit version is about to end it's life cycle.
>>
>> I said to her and decided that the old computer can continue to keep
>> functioning until it gets trojaned/hacked and so forth...
>>
>> After that happens I might pirate the computer and install windows xp x64
>> pro edition which at least is still supported and does seem to function
>> normally.
>>
>> However I always have windows automatic updates off and for good reason
>> too... if I had it on my computer would have been toasted by Microsoft at
>> least 2 times, maybe even more.
>>
>> Windows Automatic Updates/The cure seems to be worse than sickness...
>> However without the patches computers would be trojaned.
>>
>> My mother was very smart... when she started about wireless routers she
>> immediatly recgonized the dangerous:
>>
>> Wireless routers are unsafe... she wants to do banking across it...
>>
>> I told her... well safety has improved a little bit... but it's indeed
>> weak
>> protection... I concurred... you are a smart mother I said...
>>
>> All in all I am not happy with the situation.
>>
>> I believe Microsoft should be punished for:
>>
>> 1. Wasting peoples time with defects.
>>
>> 2. Security risks.
>>
>> Here is my advice for Microsoft/you for now in the future:
>>
>> In case of though legislation being introduced to go after Microsoft and
>> it's malfunctions... it would be much smarter for Microsoft to focus on
>> it's
>> core components of it's operating system and make sure that those are
>> working flawlessly instead of trying to create "bloatware" which simply
>> increase attack vectors and requires more security patching.
>>
>> If computer do get infected by flash then at least it's not Microsoft to
>> blame.
>>
>> Do I believe my mother should pay 400 dollars/euro's for Microsoft
>> Windows... HELL NO !!!
>>
>> The risks and costs of it to keep it working well are much higher...
>> especially if I had to bill her for my time.
>>
>> Until Microsoft delivers an operating system which is 100.0000000% safe I
>> do
>> not believe people should have to pay for it.
>>
>> Instead Microsoft should be fined for putting people's time, life and
>> money
>> at risk.
>>
>> And yet Microsoft is the same company which wants it's software to run on
>> cars ?!?
>>
>> Don't make me laugh !
>>
>> Bye,
>> Skybuck.

>
> If you don't like Windows try Ubuntu. Otherwise try this:
>
> http://www.pchell.com/support/window...dvantage.shtml


Ok, thx for the link I appreciate it... pretty ridicilous that this isn't
even a microsoft page !

Next time I visit my mother I will give it a try and see if it helps.

I will have to visit her soon because next tuesday Microsoft will fix
another 32 security holes !

And suddenly I wonder what other holes have not been fixed yet because of
this problem.

Bye,
Skybuck.


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