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Old 06-22-2009
ADKR
 

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Outlook and Outlook Express Updates
I use Outlook Express. Do I need to download the updates for Outlook or can
I hide them. Thanks.
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Old 06-22-2009
TaurArian
 

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RE: Outlook and Outlook Express Updates
As Outlook has been installed, you may as well. Like you I have Outlook
installed but use Outlook Express. I just install the updates and then
remember to change back to Outlook Express for the default email client.

But that's up to you. You can hide them but if you're going to do that, you
might as well uninstall Outlook altogether.

One day you might want to use Outlook and it would be best to have it up to
date and ready to go rather than out of date and a security risk to the
system.

Just my opinion, the choice is always yours.

K

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"ADKR" wrote:

> I use Outlook Express. Do I need to download the updates for Outlook or can
> I hide them. Thanks.

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Old 06-22-2009
PA Bear [MS MVP]
 

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Re: Outlook and Outlook Express Updates
I assume you're referring to OL 2003, part of Office 2003.

If you don't use OL (or OL's Calendaring feature), yes, feel free decline
any OL updates.

Here's another reason to decline them:

Microsoft Outlook updates change the default mail handler to Microsoft
Outlook
http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#13
Related: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/933450

PS: Even if you didn't install OL 2003 or if you now uninstall it, the OL
2003 updates would still be offered. Such as not the case for OL/Office
2007.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002


ADKR wrote:
> I use Outlook Express. Do I need to download the updates for Outlook or
> can
> I hide them. Thanks.


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Old 06-22-2009
ADKR
 

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RE: Outlook and Outlook Express Updates
Thanks for the suggestions. I guess to say I am using OE is no longer
incorrect (force of habit). I am using Windows Mail 6.0 with a Vista Home
Premium OS. But, your suggestions still work with that.
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Old 06-23-2009
PA Bear [MS MVP]
 

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Re: Outlook and Outlook Express Updates
Installing updates for OL 2003 will also "hijack" Windows Mail's default
status.

ADKR wrote:
> Thanks for the suggestions. I guess to say I am using OE is no longer
> incorrect (force of habit). I am using Windows Mail 6.0 with a Vista Home
> Premium OS. But, your suggestions still work with that.

<paste>
PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
> I assume you're referring to OL 2003, part of Office 2003.
>
> If you don't use OL (or OL's Calendaring feature), yes, feel free decline
> any OL updates.
>
> Here's another reason to decline them:
>
> Microsoft Outlook updates change the default mail handler to Microsoft
> Outlook
> http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#13
> Related: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/933450
>
> PS: Even if you didn't install OL 2003 or if you now uninstall it, the OL
> 2003 updates would still be offered. Such as not the case for OL/Office
> 2007.
>
> ADKR wrote:
>> I use Outlook Express. Do I need to download the updates for Outlook or
>> can I hide them. Thanks.


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Old 06-23-2009
Paul
 

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Re: Outlook and Outlook Express Updates
I use Outlook Express and am currently being offered Outlook update for Junk
Mail Filter.
I have never installed Outlook as I new its reputation for becoming the default
mail client and being hard to kill once installed.
The strange thing is that each time I check manually for updates I tick "don't
show this update again", but next time I check it is unticked again.
Geoff

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:OpvLXJx8JHA.2604@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>I assume you're referring to OL 2003, part of Office 2003.
>
> If you don't use OL (or OL's Calendaring feature), yes, feel free decline any
> OL updates.
>
> Here's another reason to decline them:
>
> Microsoft Outlook updates change the default mail handler to Microsoft Outlook
> http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#13
> Related: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/933450
>
> PS: Even if you didn't install OL 2003 or if you now uninstall it, the OL 2003
> updates would still be offered. Such as not the case for OL/Office 2007.
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
>
>
> ADKR wrote:
>> I use Outlook Express. Do I need to download the updates for Outlook or can
>> I hide them. Thanks.

>


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Old 06-23-2009
PA Bear [MS MVP]
 

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Re: Outlook and Outlook Express Updates
I assume you have Office 2003 installed, yes?

Just like the monthly Malicious Software Removal Tool that Windows Update
offers, OL Junk Mail Filter updates have the same KB number but are not
considered the same update every time their released. IOW, when you hide
this month's Junk Mail Filter update, doing so will not hide any future
ones.

Your best bet is the Automatic Update setting "Notify Only" where you must
approve (1) which updates will be downloaded, (2) which updates will be
installed, and (3) when they're installed. (You would hide any unwanted
updates in Step #1.)

How to configure and use Automatic Updates in WinXP:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306525

NB: Please note that Office Update will not be available after 01 August
2009, at which time you will only be able to update your Office components
via Microsoft Update:

<QP>
What are the differences between Windows Updates, Automatic Updates, and
Microsoft Updates?

While Windows Update provides you with updates specifically for Windows,
Microsoft Update expands the service to download and install updates for
other Microsoft software, such as Microsoft Office and Windows Live.
Automatic updating is a feature that allows you to set your PC to
automatically download and install updates using either service, making it
easy and convenient for you to keep your Windows PC current.
</QP>
Source: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/dow...pdate/FAQ.mspx
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002


Paul wrote:
> I use Outlook Express and am currently being offered Outlook update for
> Junk
> Mail Filter.
> I have never installed Outlook as I new its reputation for becoming the
> default mail client and being hard to kill once installed.
> The strange thing is that each time I check manually for updates I tick
> "don't show this update again", but next time I check it is unticked
> again.
> Geoff
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>> I assume you're referring to OL 2003, part of Office 2003.
>>
>> If you don't use OL (or OL's Calendaring feature), yes, feel free decline
>> any OL updates.
>>
>> Here's another reason to decline them:
>>
>> Microsoft Outlook updates change the default mail handler to Microsoft
>> Outlook http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#13
>> Related: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/933450
>>
>> PS: Even if you didn't install OL 2003 or if you now uninstall it, the OL
>> 2003 updates would still be offered. Such as not the case for OL/Office
>> 2007. --
>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
>>
>>
>> ADKR wrote:
>>> I use Outlook Express. Do I need to download the updates for Outlook or
>>> can I hide them. Thanks.


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Old 06-24-2009
Paul
 

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Re: Outlook and Outlook Express Updates

Yes, I do have Office 2003, but why would this mean I am offered Outlook junk
mail filter ?
When I installed Office it was a custom install to avoid Outlook and any other
unwanted items.

Sorry, I didn't clarify. When I hid the Junk Mail Filter update it was visible
again 2 or 3 days later. The same update, not another month's.
I have hidden other updates in the past and they have stayed hidden.
It is not of huge concern to me, just puzzling.

Paul

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:eg7o87A9JHA.1492@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>I assume you have Office 2003 installed, yes?
>
> Just like the monthly Malicious Software Removal Tool that Windows Update
> offers, OL Junk Mail Filter updates have the same KB number but are not
> considered the same update every time their released. IOW, when you hide this
> month's Junk Mail Filter update, doing so will not hide any future ones.
>
> Your best bet is the Automatic Update setting "Notify Only" where you must
> approve (1) which updates will be downloaded, (2) which updates will be
> installed, and (3) when they're installed. (You would hide any unwanted
> updates in Step #1.)
>
> How to configure and use Automatic Updates in WinXP:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306525
>
> NB: Please note that Office Update will not be available after 01 August 2009,
> at which time you will only be able to update your Office components via
> Microsoft Update:
>
> <QP>
> What are the differences between Windows Updates, Automatic Updates, and
> Microsoft Updates?
>
> While Windows Update provides you with updates specifically for Windows,
> Microsoft Update expands the service to download and install updates for other
> Microsoft software, such as Microsoft Office and Windows Live. Automatic
> updating is a feature that allows you to set your PC to automatically download
> and install updates using either service, making it easy and convenient for
> you to keep your Windows PC current.
> </QP>
> Source: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/dow...pdate/FAQ.mspx
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
>
>
> Paul wrote:
>> I use Outlook Express and am currently being offered Outlook update for Junk
>> Mail Filter.
>> I have never installed Outlook as I new its reputation for becoming the
>> default mail client and being hard to kill once installed.
>> The strange thing is that each time I check manually for updates I tick
>> "don't show this update again", but next time I check it is unticked again.
>> Geoff
>>
>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>>> I assume you're referring to OL 2003, part of Office 2003.
>>>
>>> If you don't use OL (or OL's Calendaring feature), yes, feel free decline
>>> any OL updates.
>>>
>>> Here's another reason to decline them:
>>>
>>> Microsoft Outlook updates change the default mail handler to Microsoft
>>> Outlook http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#13
>>> Related: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/933450
>>>
>>> PS: Even if you didn't install OL 2003 or if you now uninstall it, the OL
>>> 2003 updates would still be offered. Such as not the case for OL/Office
>>> 2007. --
>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
>>>
>>>
>>> ADKR wrote:
>>>> I use Outlook Express. Do I need to download the updates for Outlook or
>>>> can I hide them. Thanks.

>


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Old 06-24-2009
PA Bear [MS MVP]
 

Posts: n/a
Re: Outlook and Outlook Express Updates
[Are you Geoff, Paul, and/or ADKR?]

WYSIWYG. I've had Office 2003 Pro installed for years. I did not install
Outlook 2003. To this day, Microsoft Update (and Office Update) continues
to offer Outlook updates to the computer and I must decline and hide every
one of them, often several times.

Automatic Updates is set to the Notify Only option here. Is yours?

Automatic Updates in Vista
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/dow...dowsvista.mspx

How to configure and use Automatic Updates in WinXP:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306525

============

Try this:

1. Stop the Automatic Updates service:

Start > Run > (type in) services.msc > [OK]
Double-click Automatic Updates > Click on Stop
(Stopping the service will take a moment)

2. Delete the contents of the Download folder:

Start > Run > (type in) %windir%\SoftwareDistribution > [OK]
Open the Download folder and delete its contents
Close the window.

3a. WinXP: Go to Windows Update website | Select CUSTOM and allow the scan
to complete | Uncheck/deselect all Outlook updates and hide them ("Don't
show me this update again") | Install any critical security updates (only)
offered.

3b. Vista: Run Windows Update manually | Uncheck/deselect all Outlook
updates and hide them ("Don't show me this update again") | Install any
critical security updates (only) offered.

4. Start the Automatic Updates service:

Start > Run > (type in) services.msc > [OK]
Double-click Automatic Updates > Click on Start
(Starting the service will take a moment)

=====================================

How to hide updates in Vista: Click View available updates | Right-click on
the update you wish to hide | Click Hide Update | Confirm the UAC (User
Account Control) if appropriate.

To restore/unhide updates in Vista: Start | Control Panel | System And
Maintenance (If you are using Classic View, skip this step) | Windows Update
| Restore Hidden Updates | Find and select the update you wish to install |
Restore. You can now reselect it and install through the normal process.
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~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002


Paul wrote:
> Yes, I do have Office 2003, but why would this mean I am offered Outlook
> junk mail filter ?
> When I installed Office it was a custom install to avoid Outlook and any
> other unwanted items.
>
> Sorry, I didn't clarify. When I hid the Junk Mail Filter update it was
> visible again 2 or 3 days later. The same update, not another month's.
> I have hidden other updates in the past and they have stayed hidden.
> It is not of huge concern to me, just puzzling.
>
>> I assume you have Office 2003 installed, yes?
>>
>> Just like the monthly Malicious Software Removal Tool that Windows Update
>> offers, OL Junk Mail Filter updates have the same KB number but are not
>> considered the same update every time their released. IOW, when you hide
>> this month's Junk Mail Filter update, doing so will not hide any future
>> ones. Your best bet is the Automatic Update setting "Notify Only" where
>> you must
>> approve (1) which updates will be downloaded, (2) which updates will be
>> installed, and (3) when they're installed. (You would hide any unwanted
>> updates in Step #1.)
>>
>> How to configure and use Automatic Updates in WinXP:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306525
>>
>> NB: Please note that Office Update will not be available after 01 August
>> 2009, at which time you will only be able to update your Office
>> components
>> via Microsoft Update:
>>
>> <QP>
>> What are the differences between Windows Updates, Automatic Updates, and
>> Microsoft Updates?
>>
>> While Windows Update provides you with updates specifically for Windows,
>> Microsoft Update expands the service to download and install updates for
>> other Microsoft software, such as Microsoft Office and Windows Live.
>> Automatic updating is a feature that allows you to set your PC to
>> automatically download and install updates using either service, making
>> it
>> easy and convenient for you to keep your Windows PC current.
>> </QP>
>> Source: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/dow...pdate/FAQ.mspx
>> --
>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
>>
>>
>> Paul wrote:
>>> I use Outlook Express and am currently being offered Outlook update for
>>> Junk Mail Filter.
>>> I have never installed Outlook as I new its reputation for becoming the
>>> default mail client and being hard to kill once installed.
>>> The strange thing is that each time I check manually for updates I tick
>>> "don't show this update again", but next time I check it is unticked
>>> again. Geoff
>>>
>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>>>> I assume you're referring to OL 2003, part of Office 2003.
>>>>
>>>> If you don't use OL (or OL's Calendaring feature), yes, feel free
>>>> decline
>>>> any OL updates.
>>>>
>>>> Here's another reason to decline them:
>>>>
>>>> Microsoft Outlook updates change the default mail handler to Microsoft
>>>> Outlook http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#13
>>>> Related: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/933450
>>>>
>>>> PS: Even if you didn't install OL 2003 or if you now uninstall it, the
>>>> OL
>>>> 2003 updates would still be offered. Such as not the case for
>>>> OL/Office
>>>> 2007. --
>>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ADKR wrote:
>>>>> I use Outlook Express. Do I need to download the updates for Outlook
>>>>> or
>>>>> can I hide them. Thanks.


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