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Old 05-24-2009
Rage Skywolfe
 

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windows updates
several months ago on one reformat 35 updates for sp3 were released.. that
was before they had the live essentials updates comming through. lately it
has been 36 with the windows live essentials updates released as well. on my
last one it went back to 35 is there a reason it has changed from even a few
days ago to now? just curious here.
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Old 05-24-2009
Shenan Stanley
 

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Re: windows updates
Rage Skywolfe wrote:
> several months ago on one reformat 35 updates for sp3 were
> released.. that was before they had the live essentials updates
> comming through. lately it has been 36 with the windows live
> essentials updates released as well. on my last one it went back to
> 35 is there a reason it has changed from even a few days ago to
> now? just curious here.


Completely dependent on the computer and setup how many you might be
offered.

I'm guessing you are doing many clean installations if you are seeing such a
pattern - perhaps you should integrate the critical updates as well as the
service packs into your installation media to save you more time?

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Old 05-24-2009
PA Bear [MS MVP]
 

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Re: windows updates
When you open your browser to http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com, are you
taken to Windows Update or Microsoft Update? (Windows Live stuff's only
offered at Microsoft Update.)

Rage Skywolfe wrote:
> several months ago on one reformat 35 updates for sp3 were released.. that
> was before they had the live essentials updates comming through. lately it
> has been 36 with the windows live essentials updates released as well. on
> my
> last one it went back to 35 is there a reason it has changed from even a
> few
> days ago to now? just curious here.


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Old 05-24-2009
Rage Skywolfe
 

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Re: windows updates
when I am first doing the updates until the prompt comes up to install
microsoft update it is windows update.
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Skywolfe


"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> When you open your browser to http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com, are you
> taken to Windows Update or Microsoft Update? (Windows Live stuff's only
> offered at Microsoft Update.)
>
> Rage Skywolfe wrote:
> > several months ago on one reformat 35 updates for sp3 were released.. that
> > was before they had the live essentials updates comming through. lately it
> > has been 36 with the windows live essentials updates released as well. on
> > my
> > last one it went back to 35 is there a reason it has changed from even a
> > few
> > days ago to now? just curious here.

>
>

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Old 05-24-2009
Rage Skywolfe
 

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Re: windows updates
microsoft update
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Skywolfe


"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> When you open your browser to http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com, are you
> taken to Windows Update or Microsoft Update? (Windows Live stuff's only
> offered at Microsoft Update.)
>
> Rage Skywolfe wrote:
> > several months ago on one reformat 35 updates for sp3 were released.. that
> > was before they had the live essentials updates comming through. lately it
> > has been 36 with the windows live essentials updates released as well. on
> > my
> > last one it went back to 35 is there a reason it has changed from even a
> > few
> > days ago to now? just curious here.

>
>

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Old 05-24-2009
PA Bear [MS MVP]
 

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Re: windows updates
Unless you change your default update source to Microsoft Update, no Windows
Live or MS Office updates will be offered by Automatic Updates or when you
update manually via Windows Update website.

After making Microsoft Update your default, Windows Live and MS Office
updates will be offered by Automatic Updates and when you update manually
via Microsoft Update website.


Rage Skywolfe wrote:
> when I am first doing the updates until the prompt comes up to install
> microsoft update it is windows update.
>
>> When you open your browser to http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com, are you
>> taken to Windows Update or Microsoft Update? (Windows Live stuff's only
>> offered at Microsoft Update.)
>>
>> Rage Skywolfe wrote:
>>> several months ago on one reformat 35 updates for sp3 were released..
>>> that
>>> was before they had the live essentials updates comming through. lately
>>> it
>>> has been 36 with the windows live essentials updates released as well.
>>> on
>>> my
>>> last one it went back to 35 is there a reason it has changed from even a
>>> few
>>> days ago to now? just curious here.


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Old 05-24-2009
Rage Skywolfe
 

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Re: windows updates
how do you make it a default when you are first downloading updates. it is
microsoft now because the muweb control was installed. and normaly right
after that control is installed it offers the live updates it just didn't
this time.
--
Four Generations Of Trust And Betrayal...One Legacy

Skywolfe


"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> Unless you change your default update source to Microsoft Update, no Windows
> Live or MS Office updates will be offered by Automatic Updates or when you
> update manually via Windows Update website.
>
> After making Microsoft Update your default, Windows Live and MS Office
> updates will be offered by Automatic Updates and when you update manually
> via Microsoft Update website.
>
>
> Rage Skywolfe wrote:
> > when I am first doing the updates until the prompt comes up to install
> > microsoft update it is windows update.
> >
> >> When you open your browser to http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com, are you
> >> taken to Windows Update or Microsoft Update? (Windows Live stuff's only
> >> offered at Microsoft Update.)
> >>
> >> Rage Skywolfe wrote:
> >>> several months ago on one reformat 35 updates for sp3 were released..
> >>> that
> >>> was before they had the live essentials updates comming through. lately
> >>> it
> >>> has been 36 with the windows live essentials updates released as well.
> >>> on
> >>> my
> >>> last one it went back to 35 is there a reason it has changed from even a
> >>> few
> >>> days ago to now? just curious here.

>
>

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Old 05-25-2009
PA Bear [MS MVP]
 

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Re: windows updates
After a clean install of Windows, Windows Update will be your default update
source. When you go to http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com and click
"Upgrade to Microsoft Update," that's when the "muweb control" (ActiveX
Control) is installed.

If there are no Windows Live applications installed, Microsoft Update will
not offer any Windows Live updates.

If MS Office isn't installed, Microsoft Update will not offer any Office
updates.

<QP>
What are the differences between Windows Updates, Automatic Updates, and
Microsoft Updates?

While Windows Update provides you with updates specifically for Windows,
Microsoft Update expands the service to download and install updates for
other Microsoft software, such as Microsoft Office and Windows Live.
Automatic updating is a feature that allows you to set your PC to
automatically download and install updates using either service, making it
easy and convenient for you to keep your Windows PC current.
</QP>
Source: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/dow...pdate/FAQ.mspx

=> To switch from Microsoft Update back to Windows Update as your default
update source, go to Microsoft Update website | Click on 'Change Settings'
in left pane | Scroll to bottom of page | 'To Stop Using Microsoft Update' |
'Disable Microsoft Update software and let me use Windows Update only'
(check/select).

With Windows Update as your default, you will need to check-in at Office
Update to keep your Office applications fully patched:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/do...incatalog.aspx

NB: Microsoft will be discontinuing the Office Update option on 01 August
2009. After that, you will have to use Microsoft Update as your default
update source in order to be offered any updates for Office.
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MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002


Rage Skywolfe wrote:
> how do you make it a default when you are first downloading updates. it is
> microsoft now because the muweb control was installed. and normaly right
> after that control is installed it offers the live updates it just didn't
> this time.
>
>> Unless you change your default update source to Microsoft Update, no
>> Windows Live or MS Office updates will be offered by Automatic Updates or
>> when you update manually via Windows Update website.
>>
>> After making Microsoft Update your default, Windows Live and MS Office
>> updates will be offered by Automatic Updates and when you update manually
>> via Microsoft Update website.
>>
>>
>> Rage Skywolfe wrote:
>>> when I am first doing the updates until the prompt comes up to install
>>> microsoft update it is windows update.
>>>
>>>> When you open your browser to http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com, are
>>>> you
>>>> taken to Windows Update or Microsoft Update? (Windows Live stuff's
>>>> only
>>>> offered at Microsoft Update.)
>>>>
>>>> Rage Skywolfe wrote:
>>>>> several months ago on one reformat 35 updates for sp3 were released..
>>>>> that
>>>>> was before they had the live essentials updates comming through.
>>>>> lately
>>>>> it
>>>>> has been 36 with the windows live essentials updates released as well.
>>>>> on
>>>>> my
>>>>> last one it went back to 35 is there a reason it has changed from even
>>>>> a
>>>>> few
>>>>> days ago to now? just curious here.


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Old 05-26-2009
Rage Skywolfe
 

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Re: windows updates
ok that is what I was wondering. the early updates that were installed were
windows update but the muweb control is installed now and is usualy offered
when you first do them after a few visits to the update site in general. that
is why I wondered. the update I am missing from live is the one on messenger
2009 that has something about IMElanguage compatibilities.
--
Four Generations Of Trust And Betrayal...One Legacy

Skywolfe


"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> After a clean install of Windows, Windows Update will be your default update
> source. When you go to http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com and click
> "Upgrade to Microsoft Update," that's when the "muweb control" (ActiveX
> Control) is installed.
>
> If there are no Windows Live applications installed, Microsoft Update will
> not offer any Windows Live updates.
>
> If MS Office isn't installed, Microsoft Update will not offer any Office
> updates.
>
> <QP>
> What are the differences between Windows Updates, Automatic Updates, and
> Microsoft Updates?
>
> While Windows Update provides you with updates specifically for Windows,
> Microsoft Update expands the service to download and install updates for
> other Microsoft software, such as Microsoft Office and Windows Live.
> Automatic updating is a feature that allows you to set your PC to
> automatically download and install updates using either service, making it
> easy and convenient for you to keep your Windows PC current.
> </QP>
> Source: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/dow...pdate/FAQ.mspx
>
> => To switch from Microsoft Update back to Windows Update as your default
> update source, go to Microsoft Update website | Click on 'Change Settings'
> in left pane | Scroll to bottom of page | 'To Stop Using Microsoft Update' |
> 'Disable Microsoft Update software and let me use Windows Update only'
> (check/select).
>
> With Windows Update as your default, you will need to check-in at Office
> Update to keep your Office applications fully patched:
> http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/do...incatalog.aspx
>
> NB: Microsoft will be discontinuing the Office Update option on 01 August
> 2009. After that, you will have to use Microsoft Update as your default
> update source in order to be offered any updates for Office.
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
>
>
> Rage Skywolfe wrote:
> > how do you make it a default when you are first downloading updates. it is
> > microsoft now because the muweb control was installed. and normaly right
> > after that control is installed it offers the live updates it just didn't
> > this time.
> >
> >> Unless you change your default update source to Microsoft Update, no
> >> Windows Live or MS Office updates will be offered by Automatic Updates or
> >> when you update manually via Windows Update website.
> >>
> >> After making Microsoft Update your default, Windows Live and MS Office
> >> updates will be offered by Automatic Updates and when you update manually
> >> via Microsoft Update website.
> >>
> >>
> >> Rage Skywolfe wrote:
> >>> when I am first doing the updates until the prompt comes up to install
> >>> microsoft update it is windows update.
> >>>
> >>>> When you open your browser to http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com, are
> >>>> you
> >>>> taken to Windows Update or Microsoft Update? (Windows Live stuff's
> >>>> only
> >>>> offered at Microsoft Update.)
> >>>>
> >>>> Rage Skywolfe wrote:
> >>>>> several months ago on one reformat 35 updates for sp3 were released..
> >>>>> that
> >>>>> was before they had the live essentials updates comming through.
> >>>>> lately
> >>>>> it
> >>>>> has been 36 with the windows live essentials updates released as well.
> >>>>> on
> >>>>> my
> >>>>> last one it went back to 35 is there a reason it has changed from even
> >>>>> a
> >>>>> few
> >>>>> days ago to now? just curious here.

>
>

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Old 05-26-2009
PA Bear [MS MVP]
 

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Re: windows updates
I'm not aware of any Windows Live updates being offered via Microsoft Update
for the most-recently released version of Windows Live Messenger
(v14.0.8064.206; 12 Feb-09).

If you're running the previous version (released in Dec-08), the upgrade
will NOT be offered via Microsoft Update AFAIK.

You can post your query to this Windows Live Messenger-specific newsgroup:
microsoft.public.windows.live.messenger

On the web:
http://www.microsoft.com/communities...ve.mess enger

In your newsreader:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...live.messenger


Rage Skywolfe wrote:
> ok that is what I was wondering. the early updates that were installed
> were
> windows update but the muweb control is installed now and is usualy
> offered
> when you first do them after a few visits to the update site in general.
> that is why I wondered. the update I am missing from live is the one on
> messenger 2009 that has something about IMElanguage compatibilities.
>
>> After a clean install of Windows, Windows Update will be your default
>> update source. When you go to http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com and
>> click
>> "Upgrade to Microsoft Update," that's when the "muweb control" (ActiveX
>> Control) is installed.
>>
>> If there are no Windows Live applications installed, Microsoft Update
>> will
>> not offer any Windows Live updates.
>>
>> If MS Office isn't installed, Microsoft Update will not offer any Office
>> updates.
>>
>> <QP>
>> What are the differences between Windows Updates, Automatic Updates, and
>> Microsoft Updates?
>>
>> While Windows Update provides you with updates specifically for Windows,
>> Microsoft Update expands the service to download and install updates for
>> other Microsoft software, such as Microsoft Office and Windows Live.
>> Automatic updating is a feature that allows you to set your PC to
>> automatically download and install updates using either service, making
>> it
>> easy and convenient for you to keep your Windows PC current.
>> </QP>
>> Source: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/dow...pdate/FAQ.mspx
>>
>> => To switch from Microsoft Update back to Windows Update as your default
>> update source, go to Microsoft Update website | Click on 'Change
>> Settings'
>> in left pane | Scroll to bottom of page | 'To Stop Using Microsoft
>> Update'
>> | 'Disable Microsoft Update software and let me use Windows Update only'
>> (check/select).
>>
>> With Windows Update as your default, you will need to check-in at Office
>> Update to keep your Office applications fully patched:
>> http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/do...incatalog.aspx
>>
>> NB: Microsoft will be discontinuing the Office Update option on 01 August
>> 2009. After that, you will have to use Microsoft Update as your default
>> update source in order to be offered any updates for Office.
>> --
>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
>>
>>
>> Rage Skywolfe wrote:
>>> how do you make it a default when you are first downloading updates. it
>>> is
>>> microsoft now because the muweb control was installed. and normaly right
>>> after that control is installed it offers the live updates it just
>>> didn't
>>> this time.
>>>
>>>> Unless you change your default update source to Microsoft Update, no
>>>> Windows Live or MS Office updates will be offered by Automatic Updates
>>>> or
>>>> when you update manually via Windows Update website.
>>>>
>>>> After making Microsoft Update your default, Windows Live and MS Office
>>>> updates will be offered by Automatic Updates and when you update
>>>> manually
>>>> via Microsoft Update website.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rage Skywolfe wrote:
>>>>> when I am first doing the updates until the prompt comes up to install
>>>>> microsoft update it is windows update.
>>>>>
>>>>>> When you open your browser to http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com, are
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> taken to Windows Update or Microsoft Update? (Windows Live stuff's
>>>>>> only
>>>>>> offered at Microsoft Update.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rage Skywolfe wrote:
>>>>>>> several months ago on one reformat 35 updates for sp3 were
>>>>>>> released..
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> was before they had the live essentials updates comming through.
>>>>>>> lately
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> has been 36 with the windows live essentials updates released as
>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>> last one it went back to 35 is there a reason it has changed from
>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> few
>>>>>>> days ago to now? just curious here.


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