
05-14-2009
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Re: Update issues after removing IE7
YW.
Repost:
>> (I'm not sure a WinXP machine running IE6 would even be
>> offered IE7 now that IE8's been released.)
Ohno wrote:
> Thanks for replying.
>
> I do know that IE8 can be hidden with from Windows updates, but for the
> folks computers that I used the tool on which simply puts the
> donotallowIE70
> or 80 reg key in place depending on which tool you used is a better
> choice,
> as sometimes I will have them go straight to the Windows update site and
> tell them to download all high priority updates and by using the tool they
> don't get the annoying you have hidden important updates notice because IE
> is not even being offered.
>
> As far as I can tell from blocking IE7 recently on a ton of machines at my
> job because our company website still has a few issues with IE7 not one of
> them has the key that included the value IE6UpdatesHidden. The only
> machines
> I actually find that key on are machines with IE7 installed. So it is just
> a
> guess for now until I install IE7 in another computer and check the
> registry
> first but I would say the IE7 install creates the key.
>
> Just in case my first message was mis understood. I have no issues at
> hand,
> I just wanted to let everyone know that it is a possibility that if they
> uninstall a newer version if IE to opt for an older one that they should
> check to see if they have the key in place so they don't miss any
> important
> updates.
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uNjJ01C1JHA.5440@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Kinda hard to follow the narrative there and I really don't know if
>> installing IE7 creates that Value (or if uninstalling IE7 would delete it
>> or change its DWORD value), but a lot depends on the environment in which
>> IE7 was installed and uninstalled. Any real-time "systems protections"
>> running in the background when an IE upgrade is installed or uninstalled
>> can disallow changes the process would be making to the Registry.
>>
>> That being said, are you aware that you can "hide" the IE8 upgrade via
>> Windows Update? (I'm not sure a WinXP machine running IE6 would even be
>> offered IE7 now that IE8's been released.)
>>
>> PS: I do have IE7 installed here and I do have that key and Value with a
>> DWORD value of 1 (one) but I have no idea if installing IE7 (or SP3
>> afterwards) had anything to do with it, especially since I've "hidden"
>> IE8
>> on this machine.
>>
>> I also have this key...
>>
>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Setup\7.0_Beta2
>>
>> ...and it has the IE6UpdatesHidden Value with a DWORD value of 0 (zero).
>> Mind you, every beta build of IE7 was installed on this machine,
>> including
>> IE7 Beta 3 and at least two Release Candidate builds so YMMV.
>> --
>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
>>
>> Ohno wrote:
>>> I am not sure if this should be cross posted so others can read it or
>>> not
>>> but if so any MVP's feel free to do so.
>>>
>>> Anyway what I am writing about could be considered a Windows update
>>> issue
>>> or
>>> an Internet explorer issue.
>>>
>>> Here is the deal. For reasons not needed to expand on I was working on a
>>> computer that needed to be reverted to IE6 that had IE7 installed. I
>>> wanted
>>> to do this for the person before I installed XPSP3.
>>>
>>> After all was done I decided for this machine I was going to use the IE7
>>> blocking tool provided by Microsoft and the IE8 blocking tool provided
>>> by
>>> Microsoft.
>>>
>>> So as it went. The IE8 blocking tool had been installed several days
>>> earlier. I removed IE7 rebooted a few times for various reasons. Then I
>>> installed SP3 rebooted after which I used the IE7 blocking tool to add
>>> the
>>> proper reg key.
>>>
>>> Here is where this relates to Windows update.
>>> Normally when IE7 has been installed into a computer it places the
>>> following
>>> registry key in place:
>>>
>>> HKLM\\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Setup\7.0 with a DWORD entry
>>> called IE6UpdatesHidden.
>>>
>>> After you remove IE7 from the computer you would think that the value of
>>> this key would be changed from (1) to (0) or the key would be removed.
>>>
>>> In this computer that did not happen. I choose do delete the key rather
>>> than
>>> just change the value.
>>>
>>> I just wanted everyone to know this happened because I after I deleted
>>> the
>>> key the IE6 Windows Updates were once again re-offered. Had I not
>>> checked
>>> this out the user would never have known they were not getting offered
>>> updates they needed.
>>>
>>> Granted I had a long day and did not actually check the value of the key
>>> before I deleted it as it was not necessary but it must have still been
>>> set
>>> to a value of (1) because had it been changed to (0) I would have been
>>> offered the updates before deleting the key.
>>>
>>> Just something to be aware of.
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