Cannot /wuforce WUA to 7.2.6001.784 from version 7.2.6001.788 onWindows Server 2008

Greetings!

I am facing problem with downgrading WUA with /wuforce option on
Windows 2008 Server Ent SP1 x86-32 or Windows Vista Ent SP1 x86-32,
this works fine with Windows 2003 Server Std SP2 x86-64 endpoint.

Win-2008/Vista endpoint is having 7.2.6001.788 and I have to downgrade
it to 7.0.6000.381, but it shows error message - "Install is not
needed since Windows Update Agent is already installed", when I tried
with downgrading it to 7.1.6001.65(later than 7.0.6000.381) it worked
fine.

I am wondering if anyone has faced this problem, or know workarround.

Thanks
Pushkaraj

This is the part of log for *successful* forceinstall to 7.1.6001.65
from 7.2.6001.788, which was taken from 2008 endpoint:

2009-04-27 05:56:59:491 1020 980 Misc =========== Logging initialized
(build: 7.2.6001.788, tz: -0700) ===========
2009-04-27 05:56:59:491 1020 980 Misc = Process: C:\Windows
\system32\svchost.exe
2009-04-27 05:56:59:491 1020 980 Misc = Module: c:\windows
\system32\wuaueng.dll
2009-04-27 05:56:59:491 1020 980 Service *************
2009-04-27 05:56:59:491 1020 980 Service ** START ** Service: Service
startup
2009-04-27 05:56:59:491 1020 980 Service *********
2009-04-27 05:56:59:709 1020 980 Agent * WU client version
7.2.6001.788
2009-04-27 05:56:59:709 1020 980 Agent * Base directory: C:\Windows
\SoftwareDistribution
2009-04-27 05:56:59:709 1020 980 Agent * Access type: No proxy
2009-04-27 05:56:59:709 1020 980 Agent * Network state: Connected
2009-04-27 05:57:15:787 1880 fc0 Setup wusetup has finished. Exit
code is bc2. Reboot is needed
2009-04-27 05:57:15:897 1880 fc0 Misc WARNING: SUS Client is rebooting
system.
2009-04-27 05:57:19:975 1020 980 AU AU initiates service shutdown
2009-04-27 05:57:20:178 1020 980 Report *********** Report:
Initializing static reporting data ***********
2009-04-27 05:57:20:178 1020 980 Report * OS Version =
6.0.6001.1.0.196882
2009-04-27 05:57:20:178 1020 980 Report * OS Product Type =
0x0000000A
2009-04-27 05:57:20:225 1020 980 Report * Computer Brand = Hewlett-
Packard
2009-04-27 05:57:20:225 1020 980 Report * Computer Model = HP d220 MT
(PD795PA)
2009-04-27 05:57:20:225 1020 980 Report * Bios Revision = 1.11
2009-04-27 05:57:20:225 1020 980 Report * Bios Name = NR138 BIOS
Rev: 1.11
2009-04-27 05:57:20:225 1020 980 Report * Bios Release Date =
2004-01-15T00:00:00
2009-04-27 05:57:20:225 1020 980 Report * Locale ID = 1033
2009-04-27 05:57:20:225 1020 980 AU ########### AU: Uninitializing
Automatic Updates ###########
2009-04-27 05:57:20:225 1020 980 Service *********
2009-04-27 05:57:20:225 1020 980 Service ** END ** Service: Service
exit [Exit code = 0x240001]
2009-04-27 05:57:20:225 1020 980 Service *************
2009-04-27 06:00:37:656 1020 cbc Misc =========== Logging initialized
(build: 7.1.6001.65, tz: -0700) ===========
2009-04-27 06:00:37:656 1020 cbc Misc = Process: C:\Windows
\system32\svchost.exe
2009-04-27 06:00:37:656 1020 cbc Misc = Module: c:\windows
\system32\wuaueng.dll
2009-04-27 06:00:37:656 1020 cbc Service *************
2009-04-27 06:00:37:656 1020 cbc Service ** START ** Service: Service
startup
2009-04-27 06:00:37:656 1020 cbc Service *********
2009-04-27 06:00:38:296 1020 cbc Agent * WU client version
7.1.6001.65
2009-04-27 06:00:38:296 1020 cbc Agent * Base directory: C:\Windows
\SoftwareDistribution
2009-04-27 06:00:38:296 1020 cbc Agent * Access type: No proxy
2009-04-27 06:00:38:296 1020 cbc Agent * Network state: Connected
2009-04-27 06:00:38:812 1020 138 Agent *********** Agent:
Initializing Windows Update Agent ***********
2009-04-27 06:00:38:812 1020 138 Agent *********** Agent:
Initializing global settings cache ***********
2009-04-27 06:00:38:812 1020 138 Agent * WSUS server: http://hjtrend
2009-04-27 06:00:38:812 1020 138 Agent * WSUS status server: http://hjtrend
2009-04-27 06:00:38:812 1020 138 Agent * Target group: (Unassigned
Computers)
2009-04-27 06:00:38:812 1020 138 Agent * Windows Update access
disabled: No
2009-04-27 06:00:39:577 1020 138 DtaStor WARNING: DS: Database will be
reset next time it starts up due to 0x80248006
2009-04-27 06:00:39:577 1020 138 DtaStor FATAL: Datastore version is
incorrect. Expected 0.55-0.154, but got 0.174.
2009-04-27 06:00:40:124 1020 138 DtaStor WARNING: Forcing re-creation
of data store
2009-04-27 06:00:41:155 1020 cbc Report *********** Report:
Initializing static reporting data ***********
2009-04-27 06:00:41:155 1020 cbc Report * OS Version =
6.0.6001.1.0.196882
2009-04-27 06:00:41:155 1020 cbc Report * OS Product Type =
0x0000000A
2009-04-27 06:00:41:421 1020 cbc Report * Computer Brand = Hewlett-
Packard
2009-04-27 06:00:41:421 1020 cbc Report * Computer Model = HP d220 MT
(PD795PA)
2009-04-27 06:00:41:452 1020 cbc Report * Bios Revision = 1.11
2009-04-27 06:00:41:452 1020 cbc Report * Bios Name = NR138 BIOS
Rev: 1.11
2009-04-27 06:00:41:452 1020 cbc Report * Bios Release Date =
2004-01-15T00:00:00
2009-04-27 06:00:41:452 1020 cbc Report * Locale ID = 1033
2009-04-27 06:00:42:951 1020 138 DtaStor Default service for AU is
{00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000}
2009-04-27 06:00:43:076 1020 138 DtaStor Default service for AU is
{9482F4B4-E343-43B6-B170-9A65BC822C77}
2009-04-27 06:00:43:092 1020 138 Agent WARNING: Failed to read the
service id for re-registration 0x80070002
2009-04-27 06:00:43:092 1020 138 Agent WARNING: Missing service entry
in the backup data store; cleaning up
2009-04-27 06:00:43:123 1020 138 DnldMgr Download manager restoring 0
downloads
2009-04-27 06:01:23:693 1020 cbc AU ########### AU: Initializing
Automatic Updates ###########

[X-post to Vista General and Windows Server General]

Why would you want to downgrade WUA?

mail_pushkarajthorat_at_gmail@yahoo.co.in wrote:
> I am facing problem with downgrading WUA with /wuforce option on
> Windows 2008 Server Ent SP1 x86-32 or Windows Vista Ent SP1 x86-32,
> this works fine with Windows 2003 Server Std SP2 x86-64 endpoint.
>
> Win-2008/Vista endpoint is having 7.2.6001.788 and I have to downgrade
> it to 7.0.6000.381, but it shows error message - "Install is not
> needed since Windows Update Agent is already installed", when I tried
> with downgrading it to 7.1.6001.65(later than 7.0.6000.381) it worked
> fine.
>
> I am wondering if anyone has faced this problem, or know workarround.
>
> Thanks
> Pushkaraj

We are getting 0x800704dd error on newer builds(7.2.6001.788 &
7.2.6001.784 ) of wua -
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...60bc9ba972de18
in our case we use normal user to login & execute command on endpoint,
it is failing even we are using Administrator user.

On Apr 28, 12:37*am, "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABear...@gmail.com> wrote:
> [X-post to Vista General and Windows Server General]
>
> Why would you want to downgrade WUA?
>

To keep track of things, it helps immensely if you include all of previous
message(s) in your replies to the newsgroup. Thank you.

[Original title: "Error messages that you may receive when you try to
download and install updates from the Windows Update Web site, from the
Microsoft Update Web site, or from a WSUS server: "0x800704DD,"
"0x80240020," or both"]
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/910341


mail_pushkarajthorat_at_gmail@yahoo.co.in wrote:
> We are getting 0x800704dd error on newer builds(7.2.6001.788 &
> 7.2.6001.784 ) of wua -
> http://groups.google.com/group/micro...60bc9ba972de18
> in our case we use normal user to login & execute command on endpoint,
> it is failing even we are using Administrator user.
>
> On Apr 28, 12:37 am, "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>> [X-post to Vista General and Windows Server General]
>>
>> Why would you want to downgrade WUA?
<paste>
mail_pushkarajthorat_at_gmail@yahoo.co.in wrote:
> I am facing problem with downgrading WUA with /wuforce option on
> Windows 2008 Server Ent SP1 x86-32 or Windows Vista Ent SP1 x86-32,
> this works fine with Windows 2003 Server Std SP2 x86-64 endpoint.
>
> Win-2008/Vista endpoint is having 7.2.6001.788 and I have to downgrade
> it to 7.0.6000.381, but it shows error message - "Install is not
> needed since Windows Update Agent is already installed", when I tried
> with downgrading it to 7.1.6001.65(later than 7.0.6000.381) it worked
> fine.
>
> I am wondering if anyone has faced this problem, or know workarround.

mail_pushkarajthorat_at_gmail@yahoo.co.in wrote:

> I am facing problem with downgrading WUA with /wuforce option on
> Windows 2008 Server Ent SP1 x86-32 or Windows Vista Ent SP1 x86-32,
> this works fine with Windows 2003 Server Std SP2 x86-64 endpoint.
>
> Win-2008/Vista endpoint is having 7.2.6001.788 and I have to downgrade
> it to 7.0.6000.381, but it shows error message - "Install is not
> needed since Windows Update Agent is already installed", when I tried
> with downgrading it to 7.1.6001.65(later than 7.0.6000.381) it worked
> fine.

I don't know offhand, but perhaps 7.0.6000.381 is earlier than the version that
is built into Windows 2008/Vista SP1?

Harry.