Windows Update fails on multiple items with Code 800719E4

"MowGreen [MVP]" wrote on Tue, 12 Aug 2008 09:39:37 -0700:

> Dude ... stop beating your head against the wall and give MS a call.
> They do *not* charge for issues that arise when the installation of
> Security updates fail.

As I said, I have an ongoing case with them for this issue. The
problem is that they are slow to respond and still haven't suggested
doing anything I haven't already tried. But I am being patient with
them and following all of their steps. In fact, they have now *three
times* "suggested" I try a manual installation of the updates, and I
will, again, reply and tell them it is still not working.

As the other guy said, he went around with them for 2 months with no
resolution for this error. I'm not hopeful that they'll solve it for
me, but I'm being patient and we'll see.

--
Brandon Staggs
http://www.swordsearcher.com
http://www.studylamp.com
http://www.brandonstaggs.com

Is this via the phone or email, Brandon ?

BTW, there's another IE Cumulative Security update that was issued today
that supercedes the previous one:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en

Download and save Windows6.0-KB953838-x86.msu
Then *right* click the downloaded file and choose 'Run as administrator'.
Follow the prompts.

Did that get it installed ?

MowGreen [MVP 2003-2008]
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Brandon Staggs wrote:

> "MowGreen [MVP]" wrote on Tue, 12 Aug 2008 09:39:37 -0700:
>
>
>>Dude ... stop beating your head against the wall and give MS a call.
>>They do *not* charge for issues that arise when the installation of
>>Security updates fail.
>
>
> As I said, I have an ongoing case with them for this issue. The
> problem is that they are slow to respond and still haven't suggested
> doing anything I haven't already tried. But I am being patient with
> them and following all of their steps. In fact, they have now *three
> times* "suggested" I try a manual installation of the updates, and I
> will, again, reply and tell them it is still not working.
>
> As the other guy said, he went around with them for 2 months with no
> resolution for this error. I'm not hopeful that they'll solve it for
> me, but I'm being patient and we'll see.
>

"MowGreen [MVP]" wrote on Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:45:09 -0700:

> Is this via the phone or email, Brandon ?

Email. I suppose I should devote a day to a phone call. [sigh]

> BTW, there's another IE Cumulative Security update that was issued today
> that supercedes the previous one:
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en
>
> Download and save Windows6.0-KB953838-x86.msu
> Then *right* click the downloaded file and choose 'Run as administrator'.
> Follow the prompts.
>
> Did that get it installed ?

No. And WU reports the same error code.

I had over a dozen updates show up on WU today. I was able to get all
of them installed except for this new IE update and the previous
security update mentioned before.

Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer 7 in Windows Vista (KB953838)
Installation date: ‎8/‎12/‎2008 5:25 PM
Installation status: Failed
Error details: Code 800719E4

Security Update for Windows Vista (KB950582)
Installation date: ‎8/‎12/‎2008 5:25 PM
Installation status: Failed
Error details: Code 800719E4


I also used msconfig to do a minimal startup (only MS services, no
startup programs), ran the WU reset utility you suggested before, and
then tried WU again. Still the same problems.

--
Brandon Staggs
http://www.swordsearcher.com
http://www.studylamp.com
http://www.brandonstaggs.com

Since both updates are for Explorer, IE and Windows, than perhaps an
add-on is causing the installation failures. Open the Internet Options
applet in Control Panel, click the Programs tab and then the Manage
Add-ons button to access them. [ these steps are for XP; Vista may differ ]
Disable all non-Microsoft add-ons and see if that resolves the
installation issue.

MowGreen [MVP 2003-2008]
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Brandon Staggs wrote:

> "MowGreen [MVP]" wrote on Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:45:09 -0700:
>
>
>>Is this via the phone or email, Brandon ?
>
>
> Email. I suppose I should devote a day to a phone call. [sigh]
>
>
>>BTW, there's another IE Cumulative Security update that was issued today
>>that supercedes the previous one:
>>http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en
>>
>>Download and save Windows6.0-KB953838-x86.msu
>>Then *right* click the downloaded file and choose 'Run as administrator'.
>>Follow the prompts.
>>
>>Did that get it installed ?
>
>
> No. And WU reports the same error code.
>
> I had over a dozen updates show up on WU today. I was able to get all
> of them installed except for this new IE update and the previous
> security update mentioned before.
>
> Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer 7 in Windows Vista (KB953838)
> Installation date: ‎8/‎12/‎2008 5:25 PM
> Installation status: Failed
> Error details: Code 800719E4
>
> Security Update for Windows Vista (KB950582)
> Installation date: ‎8/‎12/‎2008 5:25 PM
> Installation status: Failed
> Error details: Code 800719E4
>
>
> I also used msconfig to do a minimal startup (only MS services, no
> startup programs), ran the WU reset utility you suggested before, and
> then tried WU again. Still the same problems.
>

Brandon Staggs wrote:

>> Did that get it installed ?
>
> No. And WU reports the same error code.

If I'm following the thread correctly, the error code is "log full". Perhaps
this is the Internet Explorer event log? (I assume there's an IE event log in
the Windows Vista version as there is in the Windows XP one?)

In this context, "Full" might mean "corrupt". What does the system event log
viewer show?

Harry.

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> The Microsoft guy I talked to mentioned that the root of the problem
> can be in a hardware component of my computer, which is old. Judging
> by the fact that your computer was upgraded from XP it’s not new either.
> Do you mind if we compare hardware configurations? It may help us
> to figure out the faulty driver or something. Just let me know if you have
> the same hardware components.

Hmm interesting because I bought this machine with Vista installed and am
getting same issues. SO if it is hardware, am thinking it is a pure
incompatability and not an old hdw issue. I also have a AMD dual core.. I
wonder if it is an incompatability there

Brandon above indicated that he has Intel CPU, and our hardware
configurations are very different. So it's hard to tell if this is some sort
of incompatibility and where exactly if yes.

BTW I checked the KB article about this KB950582 fix and found out that
there are workarounds so you can use them and live without the update.

Yours,
SLS

"K Hannum" wrote:

>
> > The Microsoft guy I talked to mentioned that the root of the problem
> > can be in a hardware component of my computer, which is old. Judging
> > by the fact that your computer was upgraded from XP it’s not new either.
> > Do you mind if we compare hardware configurations? It may help us
> > to figure out the faulty driver or something. Just let me know if you have
> > the same hardware components.
>
> Hmm interesting because I bought this machine with Vista installed and am
> getting same issues. SO if it is hardware, am thinking it is a pure
> incompatability and not an old hdw issue. I also have a AMD dual core.. I
> wonder if it is an incompatability there

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950582

" How to obtain help and support for this security update
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in the United States and Canada or by contacting your local Microsoft
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Microsoft subsidiary for support issues with security updates, visit the
Microsoft International Support Web site:
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North American customers can also obtain instant access to unlimited
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MowGreen [MVP 2003-2008]
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SLS wrote:

> Brandon above indicated that he has Intel CPU, and our hardware
> configurations are very different. So it's hard to tell if this is some sort
> of incompatibility and where exactly if yes.
>
> BTW I checked the KB article about this KB950582 fix and found out that
> there are workarounds so you can use them and live without the update.
>
> Yours,
> SLS
>
> "K Hannum" wrote:
>
>
>>>The Microsoft guy I talked to mentioned that the root of the problem
>>>can be in a hardware component of my computer, which is old. Judging
>>>by the fact that your computer was upgraded from XP it’s not new either.
>>>Do you mind if we compare hardware configurations? It may help us
>>>to figure out the faulty driver or something. Just let me know if you have
>>>the same hardware components.
>>
>>Hmm interesting because I bought this machine with Vista installed and am
>>getting same issues. SO if it is hardware, am thinking it is a pure
>>incompatability and not an old hdw issue. I also have a AMD dual core.. I
>>wonder if it is an incompatability there

On Aug 13, 9:23 pm, "Harry Johnston [MVP]" <ha...@scms.waikato.ac.nz>
wrote:
> Brandon Staggs wrote:
> >> Did that get it installed ?
>
> > No. And WU reports the same error code.
>
> If I'm following the thread correctly, the error code is "log full". Perhaps
> this is the Internet Explorer event log? (I assume there's an IE event log in
> the Windows Vista version as there is in the Windows XP one?)
>
> In this context, "Full" might mean "corrupt". What does the system event log
> viewer show?
>
> Harry.
>
> --
> Boycott Beijing 2008http://www.rsf.org/rubrique.php3?id_rubrique=174

Iam experiencing long ago the same problems. But Iam not a expert in
pc so what I did is hide those updates that are giving me problems.
Idid not report this because i thought it was a problem microsoft wil
automatically resolve. I only have this new pc ith vista for 8 months.
I do have a antivirus application. Any suggestions how I can fix this
in a simple way?

jeankascorner@gmail.com wrote:

> On Aug 13, 9:23 pm, "Harry Johnston [MVP]" <ha...@scms.waikato.ac.nz>
> wrote:
>
>>Brandon Staggs wrote:
>>
>>>>Did that get it installed ?
>>
>>>No. And WU reports the same error code.
>>
>>If I'm following the thread correctly, the error code is "log full". Perhaps
>>this is the Internet Explorer event log? (I assume there's an IE event log in
>>the Windows Vista version as there is in the Windows XP one?)
>>
>>In this context, "Full" might mean "corrupt". What does the system event log
>>viewer show?
>>
>> Harry.
>>
>>--
>>Boycott Beijing 2008http://www.rsf.org/rubrique.php3?id_rubrique=174
>
>
> Iam experiencing long ago the same problems. But Iam not a expert in
> pc so what I did is hide those updates that are giving me problems.
> Idid not report this because i thought it was a problem microsoft wil
> automatically resolve. I only have this new pc ith vista for 8 months.
> I do have a antivirus application. Any suggestions how I can fix this
> in a simple way?

Hiding the updates means that if *any* of them are meant to address a
Critical Security vulnerability and they are NOT installed, the system
is *VULNERABLE*. Even an update to date antivirus will not fully protect
the system because the definitions will *not* cover every known and
unknown malware.

MS offers no-charge support in getting Security updates installed.
If you don't report the issue your system is experiencing with the
updates, then MS will *never* know about them.

*** STRONGLY suggest you contact them ***

" Support
• Customers in the U.S. and Canada can receive technical support from
Microsoft Product Support Services at 1-866-PCSAFETY. There is no charge
for support calls that are associated with security updates.
• International customers can receive support from their local
Microsoft subsidiaries. There is no charge for support that is
associated with security updates. For more information about how to
contact Microsoft for support issues, visit the International Support
Web site. http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=21155 "


MowGreen [MVP 2003-2008]
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