On 2 Nov., 17:19, bnoll123 <bnoll...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> I am having a similar problem. When Windows automaticallyupdates, Internet
> Explorer stops working completely. I click on the icon, get a brief response
> of the computer thinking about it, then nothing. So, I perform a system
> restore and invariably (3 times now) the last update was "WindowsVista
> Update". After system restore, Explorer works again. Most importantly to me,
> this takes anywhere from 30 to 60 minutes to do because when I go to shut
> down my computer it will stay on a "Logging Off..." screen until I force it
> to shutdown. After turning it back on, I then perform the system restore.Why
> doesn't MS correct the update instead of consumers having to "workaround"
> with these fixes listed in PA Bear's reply?
>
>
>
> "studukes" wrote:
> > i updatedvistaon the 3rd and now internet explorer keeps shutting down and
> > restarting and my emails stopped working, restored the laptop to an earlier
> > date and everything was working fine then the laptop automaticly updated and
> > im back to internet explorer shutting down and restarting and my emailsnot
> > working.
>
> > these were theupdates
>
> > Definition Update for Windows Defender - KB915597 (Definition 1.35.24.0)
>
> > Installation date: ý03/ý06/ý2008 20:57
>
> > Installation status: Successful
>
> > Update type: Important
>
> > Install this update to revise the definition files used to detect spyware
> > and other potentially unwanted software. Once you have installed this item,
> > it cannot be removed.
>
> > Update for WindowsVista(KB940510)
>
> > Installation date: ý03/ý06/ý2008 21:11
>
> > Installation status: Successful
>
> > Update type: Important
>
> > Install this update to enable WindowsVistato detect software that bypasses
> > product activation and interferes with normal Windows operation.
>
> > WindowsVistaService Pack 1 (KB936330)
>
> > Installation date: ý03/ý06/ý2008 21:55
>
> > Installation status: Successful
>
> > Update type: Important
>
> > WindowsVistaService Pack 1 (SP1) is an update to WindowsVistathat
> > addresses key feedback from our customers. WindowsVistaSP1 addresses
> > specific reliability and performance issues, supports new types of hardware
> > and adds support for several emerging standards. After you install thisitem,
> > you will have to restart your computer.- Zitierten Text ausblenden -
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I work from Internet cafés, so the computers are not mine.
They CRASH. What happens is that without any warning, the screen goes
blank. The system reboots. All the programs that were open are closed.
All the work that was done is lost.
Then the system announces that it is downloading updates (usually 1 to
3). It takes five minutes, for which I am paying. It does this on the
same machine EVERY DAY.
At home, I have a computer that is not on the Internet. The only
software on board is from a secure source. There is no danger of a
virus. Every time it boots, it announces that I need to update McAfee.
It also opens up other screens, to offer other "services" from the
Internet - although the modem is not connected. In other words, it
offers FALSE PROMISES.
Even as I work, distracting messages are provided, constantly
reminding me to update McAfee. I have already cancelled the window,
and do not want this intrusion.
Then we have Windows Media Viewer. What used to happen was that when
an AVI file was offered, it opened a little window to say the file-
type is not supported. Simultaneously, it announced "converting the
file-type" and then ran the movie. Now it has stopped doing that, and
hangs.
When I investigate why this and other software hangs, I get messages
like "error 2048
", "Error Code 80004005, unknown error", and
"Mediaimpression no longer functioning".
Cds burned on the machine cannot be read on any other machine - I have
tried many.
The search-engine does not find things that can be found laboriously
by hand.
This machine is new - with no possibility of a virus.
This is the most buggy, twitchy, unpredictable operating system -
complete with the carefully crafted "update crash", that there has
ever been. CPUs are getting faster and faster. Microsoft operating
systems are getting slower and slower. They are full of gimmicks, like
slide-shows one does not want. However, they are only suitable for use
as toys. No way can one describe such an operating system as a tool.
Those who run an office need to be warned. One could say, a Vista
computer is a BROKEN computer. Of course the Microsoft people and
their admirers will deliver pompous lectures, instructing the user to
"reconfigure" the system. However, writers, accountants, musicians,
photographers and others should not be required to learn an
obsolescent "reconfiguration technique" - which is essentially a
REPAIR. They should not need a "workaround" either. The system should
be supplied WORKING.
When I began being professionally involved with computers in 1962,
there were no integrated circuits, not even silicon. We built
germanium diode-resistor logic machines. Subsequently, I followed the
whole process of evolution of the machines. I built computers out of
Texas 74 series chips, and ultimately wrote megabytes of code for
stored-program machines.
Instead of giving us gimmicks, Microsoft should have programmed in
this way: First it tests for a connected modem, then it offers
Internet services. No modem, no broken promises. That is how
professionals work.
The PC-DOS operating system on the IBM came from Microsoft. If a
printer was not connected, the machine hung. At that same time, I
wrote a machine-code printer-driver for a Forth machine, and built in
a timeout feature. So my code was better than IBM code. I had not
allowed the software to provide a "hanging feature".
Manufacturers of computers should seriously consider Linux and other
options in place of Microsoft, if they want to avoid complaints. When
the lay public buy a computer that does not work, they usually
instinctively blame the hardware manufacturer.
Whatever operating system replaces Microsoft products, it has to be
compatible - so that all the third-party software like Photoshop
continues to run.
Charles Douglas Wehner
Linear Mode
