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When Should I Expect to Receive Vista SP1 via Windows Update?

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Old 04-20-2008
Bob in PGI
 

Posts: n/a
When Should I Expect to Receive Vista SP1 via Windows Update?
Microsoft Vista Problems & Deficiencies
Will SP1 Update Resolve Them?

I have 32 bit Ultimate Vista. It is running on a Dell XPS420 with Q6600,
2.4GHZ quad processor that I purchased in December 2007. I have 4 GB @ 667
MHZ of memory (3.3 GB usable). I have a 256 MB ATI HD 2600 graphics card. I
have a Dell Ultrasharp 22 inch monitor (1680 x 1050 pixels). I use McAfee
VirusScan Plus. I have Office Professional 2003 and use Outlook for e-mail.
Microsoft Works 8.5 and Adobe Photoshop Elements 6.0 came with the computer.
I have 2 Optical drives E: & F: a 320 SATA hard drive C: & D: and a 250 GB
SATA hard drive G: for backup. I use Embarq DSL. I have a HP psc 1210v
all-in-one printer for normal use and a very simple Lexmark Z600 printer use
exclusively for printing PGIFC name badges. Microsoft update is auto and all
Microsoft software is current. Other programs such as McAfee VirusScan,
Windows Defender etc. are up to date.

It is April 20, 2008 and Microsoft Update has not offered the SP1 update.
When can I expect the SP1 update?

I have the following problems which I hope SP1 will address:

Excessive disk access. My computer has continuous disk access even when no
applications are running. I was concerned that a virus or spyware was
running but the disk access calls all seem legitimate but excessive and
unnecessary. The disk activity light is always blinking.

Print spooler stops inconsistently. Some days the spooler runs OK with no
stops other days it stops several times in the period of an hour. When the
print spooler stops all printing stops and even the control panel / printer
display is blank. The print spooler stops on a “Data Execution Prevention”
(DEP) violation. As a temporary fix, I have set the print spooler to always
restart 1 minute after it stops.

Some HTML e-mails are displayed in plain text (garbage) when sent out by
Bcc: This problem is mentioned on Internet chat rooms as being a known
problem on Vista computers using Office 2003.

The Ultimate Troubleshooter will not run. I keep getting an update to Adobe
Elements (Adobe Camera Raw 4, 4.3.1 update. The update will not install.
Many of my old programs that ran on XP do not run on Vista. These old
programs are curve fitting programs that do not have a “Windows” install you
just copied them to the C drive and ran them. My TKSolver recommended for
Windows NT 4/2000 or higher, appears to run OK but I get a registry error
each time I run it.

I can not load pictures from my Sony cameras using "Scanners & Cameras".
“Scanners & Cameras” does find my HP 1210v scanner but does not find my Sony
cameras. I can use Microsoft Windows / Microsoft Photo Gallery to offload my
pictures from my camera but its functionality is woefully inadequate. Adobe
Photo Downloader can be used to offload pictures from my Sony cameras but it
is also not as good as “Scanners & Cameras”.

The View/Refresh function on Windows Explorer does not work. You have to
close Windows Explorer and then reopen it to see new folders that were added
while Windows Explorer was running. This is especially troublesome when you
add folders to a remote computer and want to transfer files to the new
folder. This feature worked on XP.


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VISTA SP1 Update
It is April 20th also and I would like to know when Microsoft will send the SP1 update for my Desktop and Laptop. I have temporaily turned Auto Update on to get this Update. There is one on the Microsoft site that if you download it will consume 456mb of disk space and Microsoft does not recommend it for a single user system. They refer you to check your updates, but when I do, nothing?

How do I download from Microsoft a single user/single system VISTA SP1 update for my two computer.

Thanks for any help here.
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Old 04-20-2008
PA Bear [MS MVP]
 

Posts: n/a
Re: When Should I Expect to Receive Vista SP1 via Windows Update?
I would NOT attempt to install SP1 manually is Windows Update doesn't offer
it!

References:

Windows Vista Service Pack 1 [may not be] available for installation from
Windows Update and is not offered by Automatic Updates:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/948343

Information about Windows Vista Service Pack 1:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936330

How to obtain the latest Windows Vista service pack
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/935791

Unlimited installation and compatibility support for Vista SP1 is available
at no charge through 18 Mar-09
US:
http://support.microsoft.com/oas/def...4&gprid=500921
CA:
http://support.microsoft.com/oas/def...4&gprid=500921
UK:
http://support.microsoft.com/oas/def...4&gprid=500921
AU:
http://support.microsoft.com/oas/def...4&gprid=500921
Other: http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx | select Windows
Vista | select Windows Vista Service Pack 1
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/


Bob in PGI wrote:
> Microsoft Vista Problems & Deficiencies
> Will SP1 Update Resolve Them?
>
> I have 32 bit Ultimate Vista. It is running on a Dell XPS420 with Q6600,
> 2.4GHZ quad processor that I purchased in December 2007. I have 4 GB @
> 667
> MHZ of memory (3.3 GB usable). I have a 256 MB ATI HD 2600 graphics card.
> I
> have a Dell Ultrasharp 22 inch monitor (1680 x 1050 pixels). I use McAfee
> VirusScan Plus. I have Office Professional 2003 and use Outlook for
> e-mail.
> Microsoft Works 8.5 and Adobe Photoshop Elements 6.0 came with the
> computer.
> I have 2 Optical drives E: & F: a 320 SATA hard drive C: & D: and a 250 GB
> SATA hard drive G: for backup. I use Embarq DSL. I have a HP psc 1210v
> all-in-one printer for normal use and a very simple Lexmark Z600 printer
> use
> exclusively for printing PGIFC name badges. Microsoft update is auto and
> all Microsoft software is current. Other programs such as McAfee
> VirusScan,
> Windows Defender etc. are up to date.
>
> It is April 20, 2008 and Microsoft Update has not offered the SP1 update.
> When can I expect the SP1 update?
>
> I have the following problems which I hope SP1 will address:
>
> Excessive disk access. My computer has continuous disk access even when
> no
> applications are running. I was concerned that a virus or spyware was
> running but the disk access calls all seem legitimate but excessive and
> unnecessary. The disk activity light is always blinking.
>
> Print spooler stops inconsistently. Some days the spooler runs OK with no
> stops other days it stops several times in the period of an hour. When
> the
> print spooler stops all printing stops and even the control panel /
> printer
> display is blank. The print spooler stops on a “Data Execution
> Prevention” (DEP) violation. As a temporary fix, I have set the print
> spooler to always restart 1 minute after it stops.
>
> Some HTML e-mails are displayed in plain text (garbage) when sent out by
> Bcc: This problem is mentioned on Internet chat rooms as being a known
> problem on Vista computers using Office 2003.
>
> The Ultimate Troubleshooter will not run. I keep getting an update to
> Adobe
> Elements (Adobe Camera Raw 4, 4.3.1 update. The update will not install.
> Many of my old programs that ran on XP do not run on Vista. These old
> programs are curve fitting programs that do not have a “Windows”
> install you just copied them to the C drive and ran them. My TKSolver
> recommended for Windows NT 4/2000 or higher, appears to run OK but I get a
> registry error
> each time I run it.
>
> I can not load pictures from my Sony cameras using "Scanners & Cameras".
> “Scanners & Cameras” does find my HP 1210v scanner but does not find
> my
> Sony cameras. I can use Microsoft Windows / Microsoft Photo Gallery to
> offload my pictures from my camera but its functionality is woefully
> inadequate. Adobe Photo Downloader can be used to offload pictures from
> my
> Sony cameras but it
> is also not as good as “Scanners & Cameras”.
>
> The View/Refresh function on Windows Explorer does not work. You have to
> close Windows Explorer and then reopen it to see new folders that were
> added
> while Windows Explorer was running. This is especially troublesome when
> you
> add folders to a remote computer and want to transfer files to the new
> folder. This feature worked on XP.


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Old 04-21-2008
Bob in PGI
 

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Re: When Should I Expect to Receive Vista SP1 via Windows Update?
I had read most of your Microsoft references. Your reply is saying that
Microsoft does not intend to fix Vista. Or they do not intend to offer their
fixes to people who purchased the first edition. Or Microsoft does not care.
Or Microsoft will sent fixes sometime before March 2009. Or What???

Why would Microsoft refuse to offer updates to Vista? They have to know
that their first edition was incomplete and of extreemly poor quality.

Has anyone received Vista SP1 via Windows Update?

Does anyone have Vista SP1 installed? If so, how did they get it?

Does SP1 solve any of the problems that I have noted?

Please clarify your reply. Please provide some guidance on how to proceed.

Thank you for your help.

Bob in PGI



"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> I would NOT attempt to install SP1 manually is Windows Update doesn't offer
> it!
>
> References:
>
> Windows Vista Service Pack 1 [may not be] available for installation from
> Windows Update and is not offered by Automatic Updates:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/948343
>
> Information about Windows Vista Service Pack 1:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936330
>
> How to obtain the latest Windows Vista service pack
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/935791
>
> Unlimited installation and compatibility support for Vista SP1 is available
> at no charge through 18 Mar-09
> • US:
> http://support.microsoft.com/oas/def...4&gprid=500921
> • CA:
> http://support.microsoft.com/oas/def...4&gprid=500921
> • UK:
> http://support.microsoft.com/oas/def...4&gprid=500921
> • AU:
> http://support.microsoft.com/oas/def...4&gprid=500921
> • Other: http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx | select Windows
> Vista | select Windows Vista Service Pack 1
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>
>
> Bob in PGI wrote:
> > Microsoft Vista Problems & Deficiencies
> > Will SP1 Update Resolve Them?
> >
> > I have 32 bit Ultimate Vista. It is running on a Dell XPS420 with Q6600,
> > 2.4GHZ quad processor that I purchased in December 2007. I have 4 GB @
> > 667
> > MHZ of memory (3.3 GB usable). I have a 256 MB ATI HD 2600 graphics card.
> > I
> > have a Dell Ultrasharp 22 inch monitor (1680 x 1050 pixels). I use McAfee
> > VirusScan Plus. I have Office Professional 2003 and use Outlook for
> > e-mail.
> > Microsoft Works 8.5 and Adobe Photoshop Elements 6.0 came with the
> > computer.
> > I have 2 Optical drives E: & F: a 320 SATA hard drive C: & D: and a 250 GB
> > SATA hard drive G: for backup. I use Embarq DSL. I have a HP psc 1210v
> > all-in-one printer for normal use and a very simple Lexmark Z600 printer
> > use
> > exclusively for printing PGIFC name badges. Microsoft update is auto and
> > all Microsoft software is current. Other programs such as McAfee
> > VirusScan,
> > Windows Defender etc. are up to date.
> >
> > It is April 20, 2008 and Microsoft Update has not offered the SP1 update.
> > When can I expect the SP1 update?
> >
> > I have the following problems which I hope SP1 will address:
> >
> > Excessive disk access. My computer has continuous disk access even when
> > no
> > applications are running. I was concerned that a virus or spyware was
> > running but the disk access calls all seem legitimate but excessive and
> > unnecessary. The disk activity light is always blinking.
> >
> > Print spooler stops inconsistently. Some days the spooler runs OK with no
> > stops other days it stops several times in the period of an hour. When
> > the
> > print spooler stops all printing stops and even the control panel /
> > printer
> > display is blank. The print spooler stops on a “Data Execution
> > Prevention” (DEP) violation. As a temporary fix, I have set the print
> > spooler to always restart 1 minute after it stops.
> >
> > Some HTML e-mails are displayed in plain text (garbage) when sent out by
> > Bcc: This problem is mentioned on Internet chat rooms as being a known
> > problem on Vista computers using Office 2003.
> >
> > The Ultimate Troubleshooter will not run. I keep getting an update to
> > Adobe
> > Elements (Adobe Camera Raw 4, 4.3.1 update. The update will not install.
> > Many of my old programs that ran on XP do not run on Vista. These old
> > programs are curve fitting programs that do not have a “Windows”
> > install you just copied them to the C drive and ran them. My TKSolver
> > recommended for Windows NT 4/2000 or higher, appears to run OK but I get a
> > registry error
> > each time I run it.
> >
> > I can not load pictures from my Sony cameras using "Scanners & Cameras".
> > “Scanners & Cameras” does find my HP 1210v scanner but does not find
> > my
> > Sony cameras. I can use Microsoft Windows / Microsoft Photo Gallery to
> > offload my pictures from my camera but its functionality is woefully
> > inadequate. Adobe Photo Downloader can be used to offload pictures from
> > my
> > Sony cameras but it
> > is also not as good as “Scanners & Cameras”.
> >
> > The View/Refresh function on Windows Explorer does not work. You have to
> > close Windows Explorer and then reopen it to see new folders that were
> > added
> > while Windows Explorer was running. This is especially troublesome when
> > you
> > add folders to a remote computer and want to transfer files to the new
> > folder. This feature worked on XP.

>
>

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Old 04-21-2008
TaurArian
 

Posts: n/a
RE: When Should I Expect to Receive Vista SP1 via Windows Update?
1. Windows Vista Service Pack 1 is not available for installation from
Windows Update and is not offered by Automatic Updates:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/948343

2. Notable changes:

http://technet2.microsoft.com/Window....mspx?mfr=true

3. Overview:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

4. Will it fix your problems?
Don't know.



"Bob in PGI" wrote:

> Microsoft Vista Problems & Deficiencies
> Will SP1 Update Resolve Them?
>
> I have 32 bit Ultimate Vista. It is running on a Dell XPS420 with Q6600,
> 2.4GHZ quad processor that I purchased in December 2007. I have 4 GB @ 667
> MHZ of memory (3.3 GB usable). I have a 256 MB ATI HD 2600 graphics card. I
> have a Dell Ultrasharp 22 inch monitor (1680 x 1050 pixels). I use McAfee
> VirusScan Plus. I have Office Professional 2003 and use Outlook for e-mail.
> Microsoft Works 8.5 and Adobe Photoshop Elements 6.0 came with the computer.
> I have 2 Optical drives E: & F: a 320 SATA hard drive C: & D: and a 250 GB
> SATA hard drive G: for backup. I use Embarq DSL. I have a HP psc 1210v
> all-in-one printer for normal use and a very simple Lexmark Z600 printer use
> exclusively for printing PGIFC name badges. Microsoft update is auto and all
> Microsoft software is current. Other programs such as McAfee VirusScan,
> Windows Defender etc. are up to date.
>
> It is April 20, 2008 and Microsoft Update has not offered the SP1 update.
> When can I expect the SP1 update?
>
> I have the following problems which I hope SP1 will address:
>
> Excessive disk access. My computer has continuous disk access even when no
> applications are running. I was concerned that a virus or spyware was
> running but the disk access calls all seem legitimate but excessive and
> unnecessary. The disk activity light is always blinking.
>
> Print spooler stops inconsistently. Some days the spooler runs OK with no
> stops other days it stops several times in the period of an hour. When the
> print spooler stops all printing stops and even the control panel / printer
> display is blank. The print spooler stops on a “Data Execution Prevention”
> (DEP) violation. As a temporary fix, I have set the print spooler to always
> restart 1 minute after it stops.
>
> Some HTML e-mails are displayed in plain text (garbage) when sent out by
> Bcc: This problem is mentioned on Internet chat rooms as being a known
> problem on Vista computers using Office 2003.
>
> The Ultimate Troubleshooter will not run. I keep getting an update to Adobe
> Elements (Adobe Camera Raw 4, 4.3.1 update. The update will not install.
> Many of my old programs that ran on XP do not run on Vista. These old
> programs are curve fitting programs that do not have a “Windows” install you
> just copied them to the C drive and ran them. My TKSolver recommended for
> Windows NT 4/2000 or higher, appears to run OK but I get a registry error
> each time I run it.
>
> I can not load pictures from my Sony cameras using "Scanners & Cameras".
> “Scanners & Cameras” does find my HP 1210v scanner but does not find my Sony
> cameras. I can use Microsoft Windows / Microsoft Photo Gallery to offload my
> pictures from my camera but its functionality is woefully inadequate. Adobe
> Photo Downloader can be used to offload pictures from my Sony cameras but it
> is also not as good as “Scanners & Cameras”.
>
> The View/Refresh function on Windows Explorer does not work. You have to
> close Windows Explorer and then reopen it to see new folders that were added
> while Windows Explorer was running. This is especially troublesome when you
> add folders to a remote computer and want to transfer files to the new
> folder. This feature worked on XP.
>
>

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Old 04-21-2008
TaurArian
 

Posts: n/a
Re: When Should I Expect to Receive Vista SP1 via Windows Update?
1. Windows Vista Service Pack 1 is not available for installation from
Windows Update and is not offered by Automatic Updates:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/948343

2. Once your two computers have been offered the update, then you can
download the full file and install the same on the two computers rather than
using the smaller version through Windows Update (your choice).

Windows Vista Service Pack 1 (SP1) - 434.5 MB
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en
Windows6.0-KB936330-X86-wave0.exe

Windows Vista Service Pack 1 for Windows Vista 64-bit (Size: 726.5MB)
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
Windows6.0-KB936330-X64-wave0.exe

Windows Vista Service Pack 1 - All Language Standalone DVD ISO
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...5-83960458e2ec
6001.18000.080118-1840_iso_client_sp_wave1-FRMCSP1_DVD.iso - 1418.1 MB

Important: Things to know before you download Windows Vista SP1
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/w.../bb968859.aspx
Learn how to install Windows Vista Service Pack 1 (SP1)
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/win...6f2021033.mspx

Windows Vista Service Pack 1 (All Languages)
Unlimited installation and compatibility support is available at no charge
until March 18, 2009.
https://support.microsoft.com/oas/de...4&gprid=500921



"Christoph" wrote:

>
> It is April 20th also and I would like to know when Microsoft will send
> the SP1 update for my Desktop and Laptop. I have temporaily turned Auto
> Update on to get this Update. There is one on the Microsoft site that
> if you download it will consume 456mb of disk space and Microsoft does
> not recommend it for a single user system. They refer you to check your
> updates, but when I do, nothing?
>
> How do I download from Microsoft a single user/single system VISTA SP1
> update for my two computer.
>
> Thanks for any help here.
>
>
> --
> Christoph
> Posted via http://www.vistaheads.com
>
>

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Old 04-21-2008
Susan Bradley
 

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Re: When Should I Expect to Receive Vista SP1 via Windows Update?
No, his reply is that he would install the Sp1 manually.
Print spooler. Corrupted print driver. Delete them and reinstall.
Old programs, right mouse click on the icon, click on compatibility tab,
click run as "admin" or run as "xp2". Try that.

If you have not been offered sp1 even if you manually scan and ask for
updates, it's probably because there is one audio driver not ready for
Vista.

I have it on 4 machines, all manually scanned for via MU and installed.
I have it on one laptop that it wasn't manually offered up to and I
downloaded it manually

It sounds like the indexing program may be corrupted with that disk
thrashing.

Bob in PGI wrote:
> I had read most of your Microsoft references. Your reply is saying that
> Microsoft does not intend to fix Vista. Or they do not intend to offer their
> fixes to people who purchased the first edition. Or Microsoft does not care.
> Or Microsoft will sent fixes sometime before March 2009. Or What???
>
> Why would Microsoft refuse to offer updates to Vista? They have to know
> that their first edition was incomplete and of extreemly poor quality.
>
> Has anyone received Vista SP1 via Windows Update?
>
> Does anyone have Vista SP1 installed? If so, how did they get it?
>
> Does SP1 solve any of the problems that I have noted?
>
> Please clarify your reply. Please provide some guidance on how to proceed.
>
> Thank you for your help.
>
> Bob in PGI
>
>
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>
>> I would NOT attempt to install SP1 manually is Windows Update doesn't offer
>> it!
>>
>> References:
>>
>> Windows Vista Service Pack 1 [may not be] available for installation from
>> Windows Update and is not offered by Automatic Updates:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/948343
>>
>> Information about Windows Vista Service Pack 1:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936330
>>
>> How to obtain the latest Windows Vista service pack
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/935791
>>
>> Unlimited installation and compatibility support for Vista SP1 is available
>> at no charge through 18 Mar-09
>> • US:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/oas/def...4&gprid=500921
>> • CA:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/oas/def...4&gprid=500921
>> • UK:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/oas/def...4&gprid=500921
>> • AU:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/oas/def...4&gprid=500921
>> • Other: http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx | select Windows
>> Vista | select Windows Vista Service Pack 1
>> --
>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>>
>>
>> Bob in PGI wrote:
>>> Microsoft Vista Problems & Deficiencies
>>> Will SP1 Update Resolve Them?
>>>
>>> I have 32 bit Ultimate Vista. It is running on a Dell XPS420 with Q6600,
>>> 2.4GHZ quad processor that I purchased in December 2007. I have 4 GB @
>>> 667
>>> MHZ of memory (3.3 GB usable). I have a 256 MB ATI HD 2600 graphics card.
>>> I
>>> have a Dell Ultrasharp 22 inch monitor (1680 x 1050 pixels). I use McAfee
>>> VirusScan Plus. I have Office Professional 2003 and use Outlook for
>>> e-mail.
>>> Microsoft Works 8.5 and Adobe Photoshop Elements 6.0 came with the
>>> computer.
>>> I have 2 Optical drives E: & F: a 320 SATA hard drive C: & D: and a 250 GB
>>> SATA hard drive G: for backup. I use Embarq DSL. I have a HP psc 1210v
>>> all-in-one printer for normal use and a very simple Lexmark Z600 printer
>>> use
>>> exclusively for printing PGIFC name badges. Microsoft update is auto and
>>> all Microsoft software is current. Other programs such as McAfee
>>> VirusScan,
>>> Windows Defender etc. are up to date.
>>>
>>> It is April 20, 2008 and Microsoft Update has not offered the SP1 update.
>>> When can I expect the SP1 update?
>>>
>>> I have the following problems which I hope SP1 will address:
>>>
>>> Excessive disk access. My computer has continuous disk access even when
>>> no
>>> applications are running. I was concerned that a virus or spyware was
>>> running but the disk access calls all seem legitimate but excessive and
>>> unnecessary. The disk activity light is always blinking.
>>>
>>> Print spooler stops inconsistently. Some days the spooler runs OK with no
>>> stops other days it stops several times in the period of an hour. When
>>> the
>>> print spooler stops all printing stops and even the control panel /
>>> printer
>>> display is blank. The print spooler stops on a “Data Execution
>>> Prevention” (DEP) violation. As a temporary fix, I have set the print
>>> spooler to always restart 1 minute after it stops.
>>>
>>> Some HTML e-mails are displayed in plain text (garbage) when sent out by
>>> Bcc: This problem is mentioned on Internet chat rooms as being a known
>>> problem on Vista computers using Office 2003.
>>>
>>> The Ultimate Troubleshooter will not run. I keep getting an update to
>>> Adobe
>>> Elements (Adobe Camera Raw 4, 4.3.1 update. The update will not install.
>>> Many of my old programs that ran on XP do not run on Vista. These old
>>> programs are curve fitting programs that do not have a “Windows”
>>> install you just copied them to the C drive and ran them. My TKSolver
>>> recommended for Windows NT 4/2000 or higher, appears to run OK but I get a
>>> registry error
>>> each time I run it.
>>>
>>> I can not load pictures from my Sony cameras using "Scanners & Cameras".
>>> “Scanners & Cameras” does find my HP 1210v scanner but does not find
>>> my
>>> Sony cameras. I can use Microsoft Windows / Microsoft Photo Gallery to
>>> offload my pictures from my camera but its functionality is woefully
>>> inadequate. Adobe Photo Downloader can be used to offload pictures from
>>> my
>>> Sony cameras but it
>>> is also not as good as “Scanners & Cameras”.
>>>
>>> The View/Refresh function on Windows Explorer does not work. You have to
>>> close Windows Explorer and then reopen it to see new folders that were
>>> added
>>> while Windows Explorer was running. This is especially troublesome when
>>> you
>>> add folders to a remote computer and want to transfer files to the new
>>> folder. This feature worked on XP.

>>

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Old 04-21-2008
PA Bear [MS MVP]
 

Posts: n/a
Re: When Should I Expect to Receive Vista SP1 via Windows Update?
See the replies of my colleagues TaurArian and Susan Bradley. My comments
inline below.

Bob in PGI wrote:
> I had read most of your Microsoft references. Your reply is saying that
> Microsoft does not intend to fix Vista. Or they do not intend to offer
> their fixes to people who purchased the first edition. Or Microsoft does
> not care. Or Microsoft will sent fixes sometime before March 2009. Or
> What???


I neither said or implied any of the above, I simply posted references for
your consideration. Please note that we're all volunteers here, including
MS MVPs.

> Why would Microsoft refuse to offer updates to Vista? They have to know
> that their first edition was incomplete and of extreemly poor quality.


Some, I'm sure, wouldn't argue with your second comment (cf.
http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/m...ves/136739.asp). As for
your first comment, some Vista machines will not be offered SP1 until the
Windows Update detection engine determines that the machine meets all
hardware (and third-party software?) requirements (cf.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/948343). That fact that most machines are
being offered and have successfully installed Vista is of no comfort to you
and others in your situation, I'm sure.

> Has anyone received Vista SP1 via Windows Update?


Certainly, but few of these users will bother to post to this or other MS
newsgroups to say, "SP1 installed without a lick of problems!"

> Does anyone have Vista SP1 installed? If so, how did they get it?


See above.

> Does SP1 solve any of the problems that I have noted?


I have no idea. Consider asking in a Vista-specific newsgroup [1]. I would
not assume that SP1 will resolve hardware or third-party software problems,
Bob.

> Please clarify your reply. Please provide some guidance on how to
> proceed.


Your best bet would be the unlimited installation and compatibility support
I referenced in my previous reply.

> Thank you for your help.


YW, Bob.
===================================
[1] Vista-specific newsgroups include:

microsoft.public.windows.vista.administration_acco unts_passwords
microsoft.public.windows.vista.file_management
microsoft.public.windows.vista.games
microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_assessment
microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup
microsoft.public.windows.vista.mail
microsoft.public.windows.vista.music_pictures_vide o
microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_mainten ance
microsoft.public.windows.vista.print_fax_scan
microsoft.public.windows.vista.security
--
~PA Bear


> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>> I would NOT attempt to install SP1 manually is Windows Update doesn't
>> offer
>> it!
>>
>> References:
>>
>> Windows Vista Service Pack 1 [may not be] available for installation from
>> Windows Update and is not offered by Automatic Updates:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/948343
>>
>> Information about Windows Vista Service Pack 1:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936330
>>
>> How to obtain the latest Windows Vista service pack
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/935791
>>
>> Unlimited installation and compatibility support for Vista SP1 is
>> available
>> at no charge through 18 Mar-09
>> • US:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/oas/def...4&gprid=500921
>> • CA:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/oas/def...4&gprid=500921
>> • UK:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/oas/def...4&gprid=500921
>> • AU:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/oas/def...4&gprid=500921
>> • Other: http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx | select Windows
>> Vista | select Windows Vista Service Pack 1
>> --
>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>>
>>
>> Bob in PGI wrote:
>>> Microsoft Vista Problems & Deficiencies
>>> Will SP1 Update Resolve Them?
>>>
>>> I have 32 bit Ultimate Vista. It is running on a Dell XPS420 with
>>> Q6600,
>>> 2.4GHZ quad processor that I purchased in December 2007. I have 4 GB @
>>> 667
>>> MHZ of memory (3.3 GB usable). I have a 256 MB ATI HD 2600 graphics
>>> card.
>>> I
>>> have a Dell Ultrasharp 22 inch monitor (1680 x 1050 pixels). I use
>>> McAfee
>>> VirusScan Plus. I have Office Professional 2003 and use Outlook for
>>> e-mail.
>>> Microsoft Works 8.5 and Adobe Photoshop Elements 6.0 came with the
>>> computer.
>>> I have 2 Optical drives E: & F: a 320 SATA hard drive C: & D: and a 250
>>> GB
>>> SATA hard drive G: for backup. I use Embarq DSL. I have a HP psc 1210v
>>> all-in-one printer for normal use and a very simple Lexmark Z600 printer
>>> use
>>> exclusively for printing PGIFC name badges. Microsoft update is auto
>>> and
>>> all Microsoft software is current. Other programs such as McAfee
>>> VirusScan,
>>> Windows Defender etc. are up to date.
>>>
>>> It is April 20, 2008 and Microsoft Update has not offered the SP1
>>> update.
>>> When can I expect the SP1 update?
>>>
>>> I have the following problems which I hope SP1 will address:
>>>
>>> Excessive disk access. My computer has continuous disk access even when
>>> no
>>> applications are running. I was concerned that a virus or spyware was
>>> running but the disk access calls all seem legitimate but excessive and
>>> unnecessary. The disk activity light is always blinking.
>>>
>>> Print spooler stops inconsistently. Some days the spooler runs OK with
>>> no
>>> stops other days it stops several times in the period of an hour. When
>>> the
>>> print spooler stops all printing stops and even the control panel /
>>> printer
>>> display is blank. The print spooler stops on a “Data Execution
>>> Prevention” (DEP) violation. As a temporary fix, I have set the
>>> print
>>> spooler to always restart 1 minute after it stops.
>>>
>>> Some HTML e-mails are displayed in plain text (garbage) when sent out by
>>> Bcc: This problem is mentioned on Internet chat rooms as being a known
>>> problem on Vista computers using Office 2003.
>>>
>>> The Ultimate Troubleshooter will not run. I keep getting an update to
>>> Adobe
>>> Elements (Adobe Camera Raw 4, 4.3.1 update. The update will not
>>> install.
>>> Many of my old programs that ran on XP do not run on Vista. These old
>>> programs are curve fitting programs that do not have a “Windows”
>>> install you just copied them to the C drive and ran them. My TKSolver
>>> recommended for Windows NT 4/2000 or higher, appears to run OK but I get
>>> a
>>> registry error
>>> each time I run it.
>>>
>>> I can not load pictures from my Sony cameras using "Scanners & Cameras".
>>> “Scanners & Cameras” does find my HP 1210v scanner but does
>>> not find
>>> my
>>> Sony cameras. I can use Microsoft Windows / Microsoft Photo Gallery to
>>> offload my pictures from my camera but its functionality is woefully
>>> inadequate. Adobe Photo Downloader can be used to offload pictures from
>>> my
>>> Sony cameras but it
>>> is also not as good as “Scanners & Cameras”.
>>>
>>> The View/Refresh function on Windows Explorer does not work. You have
>>> to
>>> close Windows Explorer and then reopen it to see new folders that were
>>> added
>>> while Windows Explorer was running. This is especially troublesome when
>>> you
>>> add folders to a remote computer and want to transfer files to the new
>>> folder. This feature worked on XP.


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