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Old 01-11-2008
KDesigner
 

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After Updates Vista is stuck in reboot...
ok, just got this computer for Christimas with Vista on a Dell 1531.

Downloaded to install all updates and now the computer just keeps rebooting.
Upon reboot it goes into Vista but says:

Configuring Updates
then it says
Shutting Down

....and this goes on and on and on and on...

What do I do now?


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Old 01-11-2008
IWANTBLUE
 

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RE: After Updates Vista is stuck in reboot...
I sugest you contact microsoft update support via e-mail, but thsi seem very
similar to the problems i had last night, although my reboots were to
'resuming' eventually they 'fixed themselves' but i only seem to have
installed 3 of the 6 supposedly being done...
It seems this last batch of updates were a particular pain...
I hope this link helps, originally posted by :-
"Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User"

"Free Microsoft technical support for any Windows Update issues:
https://support.microsoft.com/oas/de...spx?gprid=6527 "


Regards, Nick

--


"KDesigner" wrote:

> ok, just got this computer for Christimas with Vista on a Dell 1531.
>
> Downloaded to install all updates and now the computer just keeps rebooting.
> Upon reboot it goes into Vista but says:
>
> Configuring Updates
> then it says
> Shutting Down
>
> ...and this goes on and on and on and on...
>
> What do I do now?
>
>

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Old 01-11-2008
KDesigner
 

Posts: n/a
RE: After Updates Vista is stuck in reboot...
Thank you for your response...I thought about contacting Microsoft, but
having had experience with them over the years I thought not to.

If I can't take a brand new computer and update it without issues (you know
it's been MS for 15 years now)...why would I want to use this OS?

One would think that issues/updates which completely disable a computer from
functioning should be a thing of the past. The computer is 12 days old, I
tried to do my first update and that didn't work...so I don't care to spend
anymore time trying to figure out why and/or how to fix it...it's not my
responsibility neither should it be.

I loaded up my XP PRO and everything works fine...as for Vista? As Stevie
Nicks of Fleetwood Mac sang: "I'm never goin back again".

I gave MS Vista a shot. It FAILED. I'm done with it.


"IWANTBLUE" wrote:

> I sugest you contact microsoft update support via e-mail, but thsi seem very
> similar to the problems i had last night, although my reboots were to
> 'resuming' eventually they 'fixed themselves' but i only seem to have
> installed 3 of the 6 supposedly being done...
> It seems this last batch of updates were a particular pain...
> I hope this link helps, originally posted by :-
> "Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Shell/User"
>
> "Free Microsoft technical support for any Windows Update issues:
> https://support.microsoft.com/oas/de...spx?gprid=6527 "
>
>
> Regards, Nick
>
> --
>
>
> "KDesigner" wrote:
>
> > ok, just got this computer for Christimas with Vista on a Dell 1531.
> >
> > Downloaded to install all updates and now the computer just keeps rebooting.
> > Upon reboot it goes into Vista but says:
> >
> > Configuring Updates
> > then it says
> > Shutting Down
> >
> > ...and this goes on and on and on and on...
> >
> > What do I do now?
> >
> >

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Old 01-15-2008
JoshSommers
 

Posts: n/a
RE: After Updates Vista is stuck in reboot...
I'm having the same problem. It is ridiculous. I agree with all that you have
said. Microsoft is so amateurish. These kinds of problems should be a thing
of the past. So here I am with my $1600 computer, completely unable to use
it. Not to mention the fact that I had to get all new peripherals because of
the convenient fact that Vista doesn't work with any of my old hardware like
printers and scanners. What a scam. What a joke. I hate microsoft and I hate
this monopoly that allows them to continually screw us over and get away with
it. There is nothing we can do, we are powerless to the evil empire. All hail
Bill Gates.

"KDesigner" wrote:

> Thank you for your response...I thought about contacting Microsoft, but
> having had experience with them over the years I thought not to.
>
> If I can't take a brand new computer and update it without issues (you know
> it's been MS for 15 years now)...why would I want to use this OS?
>
> One would think that issues/updates which completely disable a computer from
> functioning should be a thing of the past. The computer is 12 days old, I
> tried to do my first update and that didn't work...so I don't care to spend
> anymore time trying to figure out why and/or how to fix it...it's not my
> responsibility neither should it be.
>
> I loaded up my XP PRO and everything works fine...as for Vista? As Stevie
> Nicks of Fleetwood Mac sang: "I'm never goin back again".
>
> I gave MS Vista a shot. It FAILED. I'm done with it.
>
>
> "IWANTBLUE" wrote:
>
> > I sugest you contact microsoft update support via e-mail, but thsi seem very
> > similar to the problems i had last night, although my reboots were to
> > 'resuming' eventually they 'fixed themselves' but i only seem to have
> > installed 3 of the 6 supposedly being done...
> > It seems this last batch of updates were a particular pain...
> > I hope this link helps, originally posted by :-
> > "Carey Frisch
> > Microsoft MVP
> > Windows Shell/User"
> >
> > "Free Microsoft technical support for any Windows Update issues:
> > https://support.microsoft.com/oas/de...spx?gprid=6527 "
> >
> >
> > Regards, Nick
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> > "KDesigner" wrote:
> >
> > > ok, just got this computer for Christimas with Vista on a Dell 1531.
> > >
> > > Downloaded to install all updates and now the computer just keeps rebooting.
> > > Upon reboot it goes into Vista but says:
> > >
> > > Configuring Updates
> > > then it says
> > > Shutting Down
> > >
> > > ...and this goes on and on and on and on...
> > >
> > > What do I do now?
> > >
> > >

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Old 01-15-2008
KDesigner
 

Posts: n/a
RE: After Updates Vista is stuck in reboot...
Yes, Unfortunately MS doesn't get it...better to fix the current product than
to create a whole new one...if they concentrated on "Quality" fo what they
have instead of production of new product they would find a public more
acceptable to what they are doing...

I reformatted my brand new computer and am currently running XP.

For me this means NO MORE UPDATES, PATCHES, ETC. period. I'm Done.

I will never "try" another MS OS....XP does what I need to do and I don't
see any need for any other OS...even Vista doesn't really add any "new" thing
which is a "must have" it's just more glitter than anything else.

The problem is MS has to keep the money coming so they have to keep
producing new product otherwise they will "tank" which will eventually happen
and is happening now...you can only do so much with a computer and we are
really at the end of it's inherent capabilities...

Any one who buys into the "new" OS MS pushes is really asking for it. There
is no functional differences between XP and Vista...actually Vista is worse
in that regard.

Working for Dell, I know that these guys are all "in bed" together and have
to think of ways to keep pushing the computer train. More software, "Bloated"
that is...bigger OS more more more means you need more memory, more
peripherals, more CPU and it's all just a "mirage"...worthless.

My advice to anyone who is thinking about "upgrading" anything is "IF IT
AIN'T BROKE DON'T FIX IT"...there is nothing that Vista delivers that you
can't do with XP and probably do it better with XP.

Ok I'm off the soap box now...MS has heard this for at least 5 years now and
they won't stop because they can't.

The only say we have is to stop going along with their BS...stay with what
you have and be content knowing that it all works.


"JoshSommers" wrote:

> I'm having the same problem. It is ridiculous. I agree with all that you have
> said. Microsoft is so amateurish. These kinds of problems should be a thing
> of the past. So here I am with my $1600 computer, completely unable to use
> it. Not to mention the fact that I had to get all new peripherals because of
> the convenient fact that Vista doesn't work with any of my old hardware like
> printers and scanners. What a scam. What a joke. I hate microsoft and I hate
> this monopoly that allows them to continually screw us over and get away with
> it. There is nothing we can do, we are powerless to the evil empire. All hail
> Bill Gates.
>
> "KDesigner" wrote:
>
> > Thank you for your response...I thought about contacting Microsoft, but
> > having had experience with them over the years I thought not to.
> >
> > If I can't take a brand new computer and update it without issues (you know
> > it's been MS for 15 years now)...why would I want to use this OS?
> >
> > One would think that issues/updates which completely disable a computer from
> > functioning should be a thing of the past. The computer is 12 days old, I
> > tried to do my first update and that didn't work...so I don't care to spend
> > anymore time trying to figure out why and/or how to fix it...it's not my
> > responsibility neither should it be.
> >
> > I loaded up my XP PRO and everything works fine...as for Vista? As Stevie
> > Nicks of Fleetwood Mac sang: "I'm never goin back again".
> >
> > I gave MS Vista a shot. It FAILED. I'm done with it.
> >
> >
> > "IWANTBLUE" wrote:
> >
> > > I sugest you contact microsoft update support via e-mail, but thsi seem very
> > > similar to the problems i had last night, although my reboots were to
> > > 'resuming' eventually they 'fixed themselves' but i only seem to have
> > > installed 3 of the 6 supposedly being done...
> > > It seems this last batch of updates were a particular pain...
> > > I hope this link helps, originally posted by :-
> > > "Carey Frisch
> > > Microsoft MVP
> > > Windows Shell/User"
> > >
> > > "Free Microsoft technical support for any Windows Update issues:
> > > https://support.microsoft.com/oas/de...spx?gprid=6527 "
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards, Nick
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > >
> > > "KDesigner" wrote:
> > >
> > > > ok, just got this computer for Christimas with Vista on a Dell 1531.
> > > >
> > > > Downloaded to install all updates and now the computer just keeps rebooting.
> > > > Upon reboot it goes into Vista but says:
> > > >
> > > > Configuring Updates
> > > > then it says
> > > > Shutting Down
> > > >
> > > > ...and this goes on and on and on and on...
> > > >
> > > > What do I do now?
> > > >
> > > >

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Old 01-15-2008
JoshSommers
 

Posts: n/a
RE: After Updates Vista is stuck in reboot...
Time for us to all get together and file a class action law suit against
Microsoft. They will just keep screwing us over again and again until we band
together and do something about it. They need to pay for the problems they
have created in an industry where we have no choice but to use their products
lest we be forced to use obscure operating systems and software (linux,mac,
etc). But if you are in the real world, and use a computer for business
needs, windows is your only choice and that is a monopoly. When a company has
a monopoly like this, they don't have to care or help or be responsible
because what are we going to do, buy a mac? What a joke.

"KDesigner" wrote:

> Yes, Unfortunately MS doesn't get it...better to fix the current product than
> to create a whole new one...if they concentrated on "Quality" fo what they
> have instead of production of new product they would find a public more
> acceptable to what they are doing...
>
> I reformatted my brand new computer and am currently running XP.
>
> For me this means NO MORE UPDATES, PATCHES, ETC. period. I'm Done.
>
> I will never "try" another MS OS....XP does what I need to do and I don't
> see any need for any other OS...even Vista doesn't really add any "new" thing
> which is a "must have" it's just more glitter than anything else.
>
> The problem is MS has to keep the money coming so they have to keep
> producing new product otherwise they will "tank" which will eventually happen
> and is happening now...you can only do so much with a computer and we are
> really at the end of it's inherent capabilities...
>
> Any one who buys into the "new" OS MS pushes is really asking for it. There
> is no functional differences between XP and Vista...actually Vista is worse
> in that regard.
>
> Working for Dell, I know that these guys are all "in bed" together and have
> to think of ways to keep pushing the computer train. More software, "Bloated"
> that is...bigger OS more more more means you need more memory, more
> peripherals, more CPU and it's all just a "mirage"...worthless.
>
> My advice to anyone who is thinking about "upgrading" anything is "IF IT
> AIN'T BROKE DON'T FIX IT"...there is nothing that Vista delivers that you
> can't do with XP and probably do it better with XP.
>
> Ok I'm off the soap box now...MS has heard this for at least 5 years now and
> they won't stop because they can't.
>
> The only say we have is to stop going along with their BS...stay with what
> you have and be content knowing that it all works.
>
>
> "JoshSommers" wrote:
>
> > I'm having the same problem. It is ridiculous. I agree with all that you have
> > said. Microsoft is so amateurish. These kinds of problems should be a thing
> > of the past. So here I am with my $1600 computer, completely unable to use
> > it. Not to mention the fact that I had to get all new peripherals because of
> > the convenient fact that Vista doesn't work with any of my old hardware like
> > printers and scanners. What a scam. What a joke. I hate microsoft and I hate
> > this monopoly that allows them to continually screw us over and get away with
> > it. There is nothing we can do, we are powerless to the evil empire. All hail
> > Bill Gates.
> >
> > "KDesigner" wrote:
> >
> > > Thank you for your response...I thought about contacting Microsoft, but
> > > having had experience with them over the years I thought not to.
> > >
> > > If I can't take a brand new computer and update it without issues (you know
> > > it's been MS for 15 years now)...why would I want to use this OS?
> > >
> > > One would think that issues/updates which completely disable a computer from
> > > functioning should be a thing of the past. The computer is 12 days old, I
> > > tried to do my first update and that didn't work...so I don't care to spend
> > > anymore time trying to figure out why and/or how to fix it...it's not my
> > > responsibility neither should it be.
> > >
> > > I loaded up my XP PRO and everything works fine...as for Vista? As Stevie
> > > Nicks of Fleetwood Mac sang: "I'm never goin back again".
> > >
> > > I gave MS Vista a shot. It FAILED. I'm done with it.
> > >
> > >
> > > "IWANTBLUE" wrote:
> > >
> > > > I sugest you contact microsoft update support via e-mail, but thsi seem very
> > > > similar to the problems i had last night, although my reboots were to
> > > > 'resuming' eventually they 'fixed themselves' but i only seem to have
> > > > installed 3 of the 6 supposedly being done...
> > > > It seems this last batch of updates were a particular pain...
> > > > I hope this link helps, originally posted by :-
> > > > "Carey Frisch
> > > > Microsoft MVP
> > > > Windows Shell/User"
> > > >
> > > > "Free Microsoft technical support for any Windows Update issues:
> > > > https://support.microsoft.com/oas/de...spx?gprid=6527 "
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards, Nick
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "KDesigner" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > ok, just got this computer for Christimas with Vista on a Dell 1531.
> > > > >
> > > > > Downloaded to install all updates and now the computer just keeps rebooting.
> > > > > Upon reboot it goes into Vista but says:
> > > > >
> > > > > Configuring Updates
> > > > > then it says
> > > > > Shutting Down
> > > > >
> > > > > ...and this goes on and on and on and on...
> > > > >
> > > > > What do I do now?
> > > > >
> > > > >

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Old 01-15-2008
KDesigner
 

Posts: n/a
RE: After Updates Vista is stuck in reboot...
It's kind of what I mentioned above...a class action suit will not work...MS
would just throw so much paper work at it and money it would go on for years.
And another thing is MS does not take responsibility for what they produce,
they say if their OS does'nt work with this or that peripharal or software
it's the other guys issue and not MS.

THE ONLY VIABLE THING TO DO TO ACTUALLY STOP MS IS FOR ALL OF US TO STOP
UPGRADING.

When you think about it there is no real reason to upgrade anyway. It's just
our ego and want of "new" things.

Ask yourself this before you "upgrade":
Do you have a printer that prints?
Do you have software that enables you to do what you want?
Is there anything you really need to do on your current computer that you
can't do now? (if there is your computer must be at least 7 years old). For
the last 7 years no new capabilities have been added that are really a
necessity.

If you think you need to upgrade to get "better and faster" you are mistaken
because Vista is "worse and slower"...that's what MS, Dell, Intel etc. do ON
PURPOSE...so you think you need to "upgrade" everything else.

It is not a question of "need" it is a question of "want" We think we "need"
but we really just "want" and our "wants" is what has put us into this
position.


"JoshSommers" wrote:

> Time for us to all get together and file a class action law suit against
> Microsoft. They will just keep screwing us over again and again until we band
> together and do something about it. They need to pay for the problems they
> have created in an industry where we have no choice but to use their products
> lest we be forced to use obscure operating systems and software (linux,mac,
> etc). But if you are in the real world, and use a computer for business
> needs, windows is your only choice and that is a monopoly. When a company has
> a monopoly like this, they don't have to care or help or be responsible
> because what are we going to do, buy a mac? What a joke.
>
> "KDesigner" wrote:
>
> > Yes, Unfortunately MS doesn't get it...better to fix the current product than
> > to create a whole new one...if they concentrated on "Quality" fo what they
> > have instead of production of new product they would find a public more
> > acceptable to what they are doing...
> >
> > I reformatted my brand new computer and am currently running XP.
> >
> > For me this means NO MORE UPDATES, PATCHES, ETC. period. I'm Done.
> >
> > I will never "try" another MS OS....XP does what I need to do and I don't
> > see any need for any other OS...even Vista doesn't really add any "new" thing
> > which is a "must have" it's just more glitter than anything else.
> >
> > The problem is MS has to keep the money coming so they have to keep
> > producing new product otherwise they will "tank" which will eventually happen
> > and is happening now...you can only do so much with a computer and we are
> > really at the end of it's inherent capabilities...
> >
> > Any one who buys into the "new" OS MS pushes is really asking for it. There
> > is no functional differences between XP and Vista...actually Vista is worse
> > in that regard.
> >
> > Working for Dell, I know that these guys are all "in bed" together and have
> > to think of ways to keep pushing the computer train. More software, "Bloated"
> > that is...bigger OS more more more means you need more memory, more
> > peripherals, more CPU and it's all just a "mirage"...worthless.
> >
> > My advice to anyone who is thinking about "upgrading" anything is "IF IT
> > AIN'T BROKE DON'T FIX IT"...there is nothing that Vista delivers that you
> > can't do with XP and probably do it better with XP.
> >
> > Ok I'm off the soap box now...MS has heard this for at least 5 years now and
> > they won't stop because they can't.
> >
> > The only say we have is to stop going along with their BS...stay with what
> > you have and be content knowing that it all works.
> >
> >
> > "JoshSommers" wrote:
> >
> > > I'm having the same problem. It is ridiculous. I agree with all that you have
> > > said. Microsoft is so amateurish. These kinds of problems should be a thing
> > > of the past. So here I am with my $1600 computer, completely unable to use
> > > it. Not to mention the fact that I had to get all new peripherals because of
> > > the convenient fact that Vista doesn't work with any of my old hardware like
> > > printers and scanners. What a scam. What a joke. I hate microsoft and I hate
> > > this monopoly that allows them to continually screw us over and get away with
> > > it. There is nothing we can do, we are powerless to the evil empire. All hail
> > > Bill Gates.
> > >
> > > "KDesigner" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thank you for your response...I thought about contacting Microsoft, but
> > > > having had experience with them over the years I thought not to.
> > > >
> > > > If I can't take a brand new computer and update it without issues (you know
> > > > it's been MS for 15 years now)...why would I want to use this OS?
> > > >
> > > > One would think that issues/updates which completely disable a computer from
> > > > functioning should be a thing of the past. The computer is 12 days old, I
> > > > tried to do my first update and that didn't work...so I don't care to spend
> > > > anymore time trying to figure out why and/or how to fix it...it's not my
> > > > responsibility neither should it be.
> > > >
> > > > I loaded up my XP PRO and everything works fine...as for Vista? As Stevie
> > > > Nicks of Fleetwood Mac sang: "I'm never goin back again".
> > > >
> > > > I gave MS Vista a shot. It FAILED. I'm done with it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "IWANTBLUE" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I sugest you contact microsoft update support via e-mail, but thsi seem very
> > > > > similar to the problems i had last night, although my reboots were to
> > > > > 'resuming' eventually they 'fixed themselves' but i only seem to have
> > > > > installed 3 of the 6 supposedly being done...
> > > > > It seems this last batch of updates were a particular pain...
> > > > > I hope this link helps, originally posted by :-
> > > > > "Carey Frisch
> > > > > Microsoft MVP
> > > > > Windows Shell/User"
> > > > >
> > > > > "Free Microsoft technical support for any Windows Update issues:
> > > > > https://support.microsoft.com/oas/de...spx?gprid=6527 "
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards, Nick
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "KDesigner" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > ok, just got this computer for Christimas with Vista on a Dell 1531.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Downloaded to install all updates and now the computer just keeps rebooting.
> > > > > > Upon reboot it goes into Vista but says:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Configuring Updates
> > > > > > then it says
> > > > > > Shutting Down
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ...and this goes on and on and on and on...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What do I do now?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >

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  #8 (permalink)  
Old 01-15-2008
JoshSommers
 

Posts: n/a
RE: After Updates Vista is stuck in reboot...
Unfortunately people are not going to stop upgrading. Particularly when it is
no longer an option. Sure, today you can still buy a new PC with XP on it,
but you KNOW that will not continue for very long. Because MS is a monopoly,
we have no real choice but to buy a computer with their OS. Because of that
we need to keep trying to hold them responsible. It is ok if MS keeps
throwing paperwork and money at their defense, eventually if we just keep
trying, we will win. Microsoft is bad for the consumer. If we give up and
suggest that the only solution is for everyone to stop buying MS products,
which is impossible, then they win. We have to be stronger than that. We have
to keep fighting the good fight!

"KDesigner" wrote:

> It's kind of what I mentioned above...a class action suit will not work...MS
> would just throw so much paper work at it and money it would go on for years.
> And another thing is MS does not take responsibility for what they produce,
> they say if their OS does'nt work with this or that peripharal or software
> it's the other guys issue and not MS.
>
> THE ONLY VIABLE THING TO DO TO ACTUALLY STOP MS IS FOR ALL OF US TO STOP
> UPGRADING.
>
> When you think about it there is no real reason to upgrade anyway. It's just
> our ego and want of "new" things.
>
> Ask yourself this before you "upgrade":
> Do you have a printer that prints?
> Do you have software that enables you to do what you want?
> Is there anything you really need to do on your current computer that you
> can't do now? (if there is your computer must be at least 7 years old). For
> the last 7 years no new capabilities have been added that are really a
> necessity.
>
> If you think you need to upgrade to get "better and faster" you are mistaken
> because Vista is "worse and slower"...that's what MS, Dell, Intel etc. do ON
> PURPOSE...so you think you need to "upgrade" everything else.
>
> It is not a question of "need" it is a question of "want" We think we "need"
> but we really just "want" and our "wants" is what has put us into this
> position.
>
>
> "JoshSommers" wrote:
>
> > Time for us to all get together and file a class action law suit against
> > Microsoft. They will just keep screwing us over again and again until we band
> > together and do something about it. They need to pay for the problems they
> > have created in an industry where we have no choice but to use their products
> > lest we be forced to use obscure operating systems and software (linux,mac,
> > etc). But if you are in the real world, and use a computer for business
> > needs, windows is your only choice and that is a monopoly. When a company has
> > a monopoly like this, they don't have to care or help or be responsible
> > because what are we going to do, buy a mac? What a joke.
> >
> > "KDesigner" wrote:
> >
> > > Yes, Unfortunately MS doesn't get it...better to fix the current product than
> > > to create a whole new one...if they concentrated on "Quality" fo what they
> > > have instead of production of new product they would find a public more
> > > acceptable to what they are doing...
> > >
> > > I reformatted my brand new computer and am currently running XP.
> > >
> > > For me this means NO MORE UPDATES, PATCHES, ETC. period. I'm Done.
> > >
> > > I will never "try" another MS OS....XP does what I need to do and I don't
> > > see any need for any other OS...even Vista doesn't really add any "new" thing
> > > which is a "must have" it's just more glitter than anything else.
> > >
> > > The problem is MS has to keep the money coming so they have to keep
> > > producing new product otherwise they will "tank" which will eventually happen
> > > and is happening now...you can only do so much with a computer and we are
> > > really at the end of it's inherent capabilities...
> > >
> > > Any one who buys into the "new" OS MS pushes is really asking for it. There
> > > is no functional differences between XP and Vista...actually Vista is worse
> > > in that regard.
> > >
> > > Working for Dell, I know that these guys are all "in bed" together and have
> > > to think of ways to keep pushing the computer train. More software, "Bloated"
> > > that is...bigger OS more more more means you need more memory, more
> > > peripherals, more CPU and it's all just a "mirage"...worthless.
> > >
> > > My advice to anyone who is thinking about "upgrading" anything is "IF IT
> > > AIN'T BROKE DON'T FIX IT"...there is nothing that Vista delivers that you
> > > can't do with XP and probably do it better with XP.
> > >
> > > Ok I'm off the soap box now...MS has heard this for at least 5 years now and
> > > they won't stop because they can't.
> > >
> > > The only say we have is to stop going along with their BS...stay with what
> > > you have and be content knowing that it all works.
> > >
> > >
> > > "JoshSommers" wrote:
> > >
> > > > I'm having the same problem. It is ridiculous. I agree with all that you have
> > > > said. Microsoft is so amateurish. These kinds of problems should be a thing
> > > > of the past. So here I am with my $1600 computer, completely unable to use
> > > > it. Not to mention the fact that I had to get all new peripherals because of
> > > > the convenient fact that Vista doesn't work with any of my old hardware like
> > > > printers and scanners. What a scam. What a joke. I hate microsoft and I hate
> > > > this monopoly that allows them to continually screw us over and get away with
> > > > it. There is nothing we can do, we are powerless to the evil empire. All hail
> > > > Bill Gates.
> > > >
> > > > "KDesigner" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Thank you for your response...I thought about contacting Microsoft, but
> > > > > having had experience with them over the years I thought not to.
> > > > >
> > > > > If I can't take a brand new computer and update it without issues (you know
> > > > > it's been MS for 15 years now)...why would I want to use this OS?
> > > > >
> > > > > One would think that issues/updates which completely disable a computer from
> > > > > functioning should be a thing of the past. The computer is 12 days old, I
> > > > > tried to do my first update and that didn't work...so I don't care to spend
> > > > > anymore time trying to figure out why and/or how to fix it...it's not my
> > > > > responsibility neither should it be.
> > > > >
> > > > > I loaded up my XP PRO and everything works fine...as for Vista? As Stevie
> > > > > Nicks of Fleetwood Mac sang: "I'm never goin back again".
> > > > >
> > > > > I gave MS Vista a shot. It FAILED. I'm done with it.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "IWANTBLUE" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I sugest you contact microsoft update support via e-mail, but thsi seem very
> > > > > > similar to the problems i had last night, although my reboots were to
> > > > > > 'resuming' eventually they 'fixed themselves' but i only seem to have
> > > > > > installed 3 of the 6 supposedly being done...
> > > > > > It seems this last batch of updates were a particular pain...
> > > > > > I hope this link helps, originally posted by :-
> > > > > > "Carey Frisch
> > > > > > Microsoft MVP
> > > > > > Windows Shell/User"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Free Microsoft technical support for any Windows Update issues:
> > > > > > https://support.microsoft.com/oas/de...spx?gprid=6527 "
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards, Nick
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "KDesigner" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > ok, just got this computer for Christimas with Vista on a Dell 1531.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Downloaded to install all updates and now the computer just keeps rebooting.
> > > > > > > Upon reboot it goes into Vista but says:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Configuring Updates
> > > > > > > then it says
> > > > > > > Shutting Down
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ...and this goes on and on and on and on...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What do I do now?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >

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Old 01-15-2008
KDesigner
 

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RE: After Updates Vista is stuck in reboot...
If you remember correctly when Vista first came out and the few months
following...you couldn't get XP on a new computer any more.

Well once people STOPPED buying into the Vista "fad" ...Dell and all other
computer mfgs. had to offer again XP.

So the "stop upgrading" will work as long as enough people would
participate...if it didn't we wouldn't be able to buy a new computer with XP.

If people would just stop and think about it...what more can you possibly do
with a desktop/laptop computer that you can't do now? nothing.

So why upgrade? It's not really an "upgrade" it's just the need to have
something new regardless if it really works or not...it's called "insanity".

Are computers faster than they were 5 years ago...no
Are computers easier to use than they were 5 years ago...no
Do computers offer anything more neccessary than they did 5 years ago...no

All it is, is more more more...more storage more memory that we don't need
or even begin to use...(unless you're a "gamer")...

So why upgrade? There is no legitimate point or reason for it...except to
satisfy our misguided need to have "new" things...again insanity.

So MS will continue to win until people realize that they don't really
"need" what they have to offer...which should have been realized 5 years
ago...



"JoshSommers" wrote:

> Unfortunately people are not going to stop upgrading. Particularly when it is
> no longer an option. Sure, today you can still buy a new PC with XP on it,
> but you KNOW that will not continue for very long. Because MS is a monopoly,
> we have no real choice but to buy a computer with their OS. Because of that
> we need to keep trying to hold them responsible. It is ok if MS keeps
> throwing paperwork and money at their defense, eventually if we just keep
> trying, we will win. Microsoft is bad for the consumer. If we give up and
> suggest that the only solution is for everyone to stop buying MS products,
> which is impossible, then they win. We have to be stronger than that. We have
> to keep fighting the good fight!
>
> "KDesigner" wrote:
>
> > It's kind of what I mentioned above...a class action suit will not work...MS
> > would just throw so much paper work at it and money it would go on for years.
> > And another thing is MS does not take responsibility for what they produce,
> > they say if their OS does'nt work with this or that peripharal or software
> > it's the other guys issue and not MS.
> >
> > THE ONLY VIABLE THING TO DO TO ACTUALLY STOP MS IS FOR ALL OF US TO STOP
> > UPGRADING.
> >
> > When you think about it there is no real reason to upgrade anyway. It's just
> > our ego and want of "new" things.
> >
> > Ask yourself this before you "upgrade":
> > Do you have a printer that prints?
> > Do you have software that enables you to do what you want?
> > Is there anything you really need to do on your current computer that you
> > can't do now? (if there is your computer must be at least 7 years old). For
> > the last 7 years no new capabilities have been added that are really a
> > necessity.
> >
> > If you think you need to upgrade to get "better and faster" you are mistaken
> > because Vista is "worse and slower"...that's what MS, Dell, Intel etc. do ON
> > PURPOSE...so you think you need to "upgrade" everything else.
> >
> > It is not a question of "need" it is a question of "want" We think we "need"
> > but we really just "want" and our "wants" is what has put us into this
> > position.
> >
> >
> > "JoshSommers" wrote:
> >
> > > Time for us to all get together and file a class action law suit against
> > > Microsoft. They will just keep screwing us over again and again until we band
> > > together and do something about it. They need to pay for the problems they
> > > have created in an industry where we have no choice but to use their products
> > > lest we be forced to use obscure operating systems and software (linux,mac,
> > > etc). But if you are in the real world, and use a computer for business
> > > needs, windows is your only choice and that is a monopoly. When a company has
> > > a monopoly like this, they don't have to care or help or be responsible
> > > because what are we going to do, buy a mac? What a joke.
> > >
> > > "KDesigner" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Yes, Unfortunately MS doesn't get it...better to fix the current product than
> > > > to create a whole new one...if they concentrated on "Quality" fo what they
> > > > have instead of production of new product they would find a public more
> > > > acceptable to what they are doing...
> > > >
> > > > I reformatted my brand new computer and am currently running XP.
> > > >
> > > > For me this means NO MORE UPDATES, PATCHES, ETC. period. I'm Done.
> > > >
> > > > I will never "try" another MS OS....XP does what I need to do and I don't
> > > > see any need for any other OS...even Vista doesn't really add any "new" thing
> > > > which is a "must have" it's just more glitter than anything else.
> > > >
> > > > The problem is MS has to keep the money coming so they have to keep
> > > > producing new product otherwise they will "tank" which will eventually happen
> > > > and is happening now...you can only do so much with a computer and we are
> > > > really at the end of it's inherent capabilities...
> > > >
> > > > Any one who buys into the "new" OS MS pushes is really asking for it. There
> > > > is no functional differences between XP and Vista...actually Vista is worse
> > > > in that regard.
> > > >
> > > > Working for Dell, I know that these guys are all "in bed" together and have
> > > > to think of ways to keep pushing the computer train. More software, "Bloated"
> > > > that is...bigger OS more more more means you need more memory, more
> > > > peripherals, more CPU and it's all just a "mirage"...worthless.
> > > >
> > > > My advice to anyone who is thinking about "upgrading" anything is "IF IT
> > > > AIN'T BROKE DON'T FIX IT"...there is nothing that Vista delivers that you
> > > > can't do with XP and probably do it better with XP.
> > > >
> > > > Ok I'm off the soap box now...MS has heard this for at least 5 years now and
> > > > they won't stop because they can't.
> > > >
> > > > The only say we have is to stop going along with their BS...stay with what
> > > > you have and be content knowing that it all works.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "JoshSommers" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I'm having the same problem. It is ridiculous. I agree with all that you have
> > > > > said. Microsoft is so amateurish. These kinds of problems should be a thing
> > > > > of the past. So here I am with my $1600 computer, completely unable to use
> > > > > it. Not to mention the fact that I had to get all new peripherals because of
> > > > > the convenient fact that Vista doesn't work with any of my old hardware like
> > > > > printers and scanners. What a scam. What a joke. I hate microsoft and I hate
> > > > > this monopoly that allows them to continually screw us over and get away with
> > > > > it. There is nothing we can do, we are powerless to the evil empire. All hail
> > > > > Bill Gates.
> > > > >
> > > > > "KDesigner" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you for your response...I thought about contacting Microsoft, but
> > > > > > having had experience with them over the years I thought not to.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If I can't take a brand new computer and update it without issues (you know
> > > > > > it's been MS for 15 years now)...why would I want to use this OS?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > One would think that issues/updates which completely disable a computer from
> > > > > > functioning should be a thing of the past. The computer is 12 days old, I
> > > > > > tried to do my first update and that didn't work...so I don't care to spend
> > > > > > anymore time trying to figure out why and/or how to fix it...it's not my
> > > > > > responsibility neither should it be.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I loaded up my XP PRO and everything works fine...as for Vista? As Stevie
> > > > > > Nicks of Fleetwood Mac sang: "I'm never goin back again".
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I gave MS Vista a shot. It FAILED. I'm done with it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "IWANTBLUE" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I sugest you contact microsoft update support via e-mail, but thsi seem very
> > > > > > > similar to the problems i had last night, although my reboots were to
> > > > > > > 'resuming' eventually they 'fixed themselves' but i only seem to have
> > > > > > > installed 3 of the 6 supposedly being done...
> > > > > > > It seems this last batch of updates were a particular pain...
> > > > > > > I hope this link helps, originally posted by :-
> > > > > > > "Carey Frisch
> > > > > > > Microsoft MVP
> > > > > > > Windows Shell/User"
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Free Microsoft technical support for any Windows Update issues:
> > > > > > > https://support.microsoft.com/oas/de...spx?gprid=6527 "
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regards, Nick
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "KDesigner" wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ok, just got this computer for Christimas with Vista on a Dell 1531.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Downloaded to install all updates and now the computer just keeps rebooting.
> > > > > > > > Upon reboot it goes into Vista but says:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Configuring Updates
> > > > > > > > then it says
> > > > > > > > Shutting Down
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ...and this goes on and on and on and on...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > What do I do now?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >

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Old 02-16-2008
sharlou
 

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RE: After Updates Vista is stuck in reboot...
I am having the same problem at this time. I am getting no support whatsover
from Microsoft. I get put on hold then, I get cut off. I have been trying
to get help now for about 4 hours. Can anybody help me? No one at Microsoft
seems to

"KDesigner" wrote:

> ok, just got this computer for Christimas with Vista on a Dell 1531.
>
> Downloaded to install all updates and now the computer just keeps rebooting.
> Upon reboot it goes into Vista but says:
>
> Configuring Updates
> then it says
> Shutting Down
>
> ...and this goes on and on and on and on...
>
> What do I do now?
>
>

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