definition updates for Windows Defender

I'm using WinXP Pro SP2.

Are we supposed to rely on Microsoft Update for definition updates for
Windows Defender?

The reason I'm asking is that when I use MS Update to check for current
updates for my computer, it listed "Definition Update for Windows Defender -
KB915597 (Definition 1.24.5193.0)."

The MS Malware Protection Center
(http://www.microsoft.com/security/portal/ADL.aspx), however, listed
1.24.5364.0 as the latest definition version.

Why is the MS Update page listing an older definition version?

I *think* the defs on the MPC are updated daily. If not daily, pretty
near that time period.
The updates downloaded by WD usually come down on Tuesday/Wednesday and
Friday, IIRC.
I downloaded the defs from the MPC yesterday and they were at
1.24.5335.0. So maybe my theory is correct. <w>


MowGreen [MVP 2003-2008]
===============
*-343-* FDNY
Never Forgotten
===============


Matty wrote:

> I'm using WinXP Pro SP2.
>
> Are we supposed to rely on Microsoft Update for definition updates for
> Windows Defender?
>
> The reason I'm asking is that when I use MS Update to check for current
> updates for my computer, it listed "Definition Update for Windows Defender -
> KB915597 (Definition 1.24.5193.0)."
>
> The MS Malware Protection Center
> (http://www.microsoft.com/security/portal/ADL.aspx), however, listed
> 1.24.5364.0 as the latest definition version.
>
> Why is the MS Update page listing an older definition version?
>
>

Windows version?

Yes, Automatic Updates will update Defender, usually twice a week. The
definitions for manual installation at the Security Portal are usually
updated daily.

If you allow Automatic Updates to update Defender, what Definitions version
is Defender displaying for you at the moment? That's really all you need to
worry about.

Microsoft has established separate newsgroups for Windows Defender support
and comments. This is not one of them.

See
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...s/default.mspx
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/


Matty wrote:
> I'm using WinXP Pro SP2.
>
> Are we supposed to rely on Microsoft Update for definition updates for
> Windows Defender?
>
> The reason I'm asking is that when I use MS Update to check for current
> updates for my computer, it listed "Definition Update for Windows
> Defender -
> KB915597 (Definition 1.24.5193.0)."
>
> The MS Malware Protection Center
> (http://www.microsoft.com/security/portal/ADL.aspx), however, listed
> 1.24.5364.0 as the latest definition version.
>
> Why is the MS Update page listing an older definition version?

I did think of posting my question in a Windows Defender newsgroup but there
isn't one listed. There's just microsoft.public.security. The topics
posted in this newsgroup is about the operation/function of security. My
question was not about a function of Windows Defender.

My question was about MS Update, which fits this newsgroup (windowsupdate),
and why it's listing an old update.




"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ejX3h1yUIHA.4440@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Windows version?
>
> Yes, Automatic Updates will update Defender, usually twice a week. The
> definitions for manual installation at the Security Portal are usually
> updated daily.
>
> If you allow Automatic Updates to update Defender, what Definitions
> version is Defender displaying for you at the moment? That's really all
> you need to worry about.
>
> Microsoft has established separate newsgroups for Windows Defender support
> and comments. This is not one of them.
>
> See
> http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...s/default.mspx
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>
>
> Matty wrote:
>> I'm using WinXP Pro SP2.
>>
>> Are we supposed to rely on Microsoft Update for definition updates for
>> Windows Defender?
>>
>> The reason I'm asking is that when I use MS Update to check for current
>> updates for my computer, it listed "Definition Update for Windows
>> Defender -
>> KB915597 (Definition 1.24.5193.0)."
>>
>> The MS Malware Protection Center
>> (http://www.microsoft.com/security/portal/ADL.aspx), however, listed
>> 1.24.5364.0 as the latest definition version.
>>
>> Why is the MS Update page listing an older definition version?
>

>
> If you allow Automatic Updates to update Defender, what Definitions
> version is Defender displaying for you at the moment? That's really all
> you need to worry about.

Before I manually downloaded the update from the Malware webpage, Defender
displayed the Jan. 2 version (I don't remember the version number but I do
remember the version date).

Matty wrote:
>> If you allow Automatic Updates to update Defender, what Definitions
>> version is Defender displaying for you at the moment? That's really all
>> you need to worry about.
>
> Before I manually downloaded the update from the Malware webpage, Defender
> displayed the Jan. 2 version (I don't remember the version number but I do
> remember the version date).

I asked for your Windows version, Matty.

To keep track of things, it helps immensely if you include all of previous
message(s) in your replies to the newsgroup. Thank you.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

> I asked for your Windows version, Matty.

It was at the top of my first post = I'm using WinXP Pro SP2.

> To keep track of things, it helps immensely if you include all of previous
> message(s) in your replies to the newsgroup.

Too many >>>>>>>>>>>>>> makes me dizzy.

What's the point of having a threaded list if each message is going to
carry all the posts from the very beginning?

Matty wrote:
>> I asked for your Windows version, Matty.
>
> It was at the top of my first post = I'm using WinXP Pro SP2.

Thank you. If you'd quoted my post in its entirety (which in turn included
your post), I might have seen that.

>> To keep track of things, it helps immensely if you include all of
>> previous
>> message(s) in your replies to the newsgroup.
>
> Too many >>>>>>>>>>>>>> makes me dizzy.

Get new glasses?

> What's the point of having a threaded list if each message is going to
> carry all the posts from the very beginning?

Full quoting helps those offering /volunteer/ support work more efficiently
to assist scores of users in all newsgroups. Look around: You'll see that
full quoting is the convention here. ("When in Rome...")

Moving on...

Enable Automatic Updates (AU) | Wait till at least Sunday, 13 January for AU
to update Defender | Reply to this post on or after the 13th and tell me
what Definitions version is displayed in Defender's opening window. For
your reference, v1.24.5379.0 is available at the Security Portal as I post
this reply...but please do NOT update Defender manually again until you've
posted your reply on or after the 13th.

How to configure and use Automatic Updates in WinXP
[I recommend selecting the Notify Only option]
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306525
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

> I did think of posting my question in a Windows Defender newsgroup but there
> isn't one listed.

Are you sure?
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...s/default.mspx
Newsgroups for Windows Defender: Learn and share information
Windows Defender newsgroups

• Announcements

• General questions

• Installation questions

• Application compatibility questions

• Networking questions

• Definition updates

K aka T MVP

"Matty" wrote:

> I did think of posting my question in a Windows Defender newsgroup but there
> isn't one listed. There's just microsoft.public.security. The topics
> posted in this newsgroup is about the operation/function of security. My
> question was not about a function of Windows Defender.
>
> My question was about MS Update, which fits this newsgroup (windowsupdate),
> and why it's listing an old update.
>
>
>
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ejX3h1yUIHA.4440@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> > Windows version?
> >
> > Yes, Automatic Updates will update Defender, usually twice a week. The
> > definitions for manual installation at the Security Portal are usually
> > updated daily.
> >
> > If you allow Automatic Updates to update Defender, what Definitions
> > version is Defender displaying for you at the moment? That's really all
> > you need to worry about.
> >
> > Microsoft has established separate newsgroups for Windows Defender support
> > and comments. This is not one of them.
> >
> > See
> > http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...s/default.mspx
> > --
> > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> > MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
> > AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
> > DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
> >
> >
> > Matty wrote:
> >> I'm using WinXP Pro SP2.
> >>
> >> Are we supposed to rely on Microsoft Update for definition updates for
> >> Windows Defender?
> >>
> >> The reason I'm asking is that when I use MS Update to check for current
> >> updates for my computer, it listed "Definition Update for Windows
> >> Defender -
> >> KB915597 (Definition 1.24.5193.0)."
> >>
> >> The MS Malware Protection Center
> >> (http://www.microsoft.com/security/portal/ADL.aspx), however, listed
> >> 1.24.5364.0 as the latest definition version.
> >>
> >> Why is the MS Update page listing an older definition version?
> >
>
>
>

If he bothered to check out the link I posted, he'd have seen this. <sigh>

TaurArian wrote:
>> I did think of posting my question in a Windows Defender newsgroup but
>> there isn't one listed.
>
> Are you sure?
> http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...s/default.mspx
> Newsgroups for Windows Defender: Learn and share information
> Windows Defender newsgroups
>
> • Announcements
>
> • General questions
>
> • Installation questions
>
> • Application compatibility questions
>
> • Networking questions
>
> • Definition updates
>
> K aka T MVP
>
> "Matty" wrote:
>
>> I did think of posting my question in a Windows Defender newsgroup but
>> there isn't one listed. There's just microsoft.public.security. The
>> topics posted in this newsgroup is about the operation/function of
>> security. My question was not about a function of Windows Defender.
>>
>> My question was about MS Update, which fits this newsgroup
>> (windowsupdate),
>> and why it's listing an old update.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:ejX3h1yUIHA.4440@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> Windows version?
>>>
>>> Yes, Automatic Updates will update Defender, usually twice a week. The
>>> definitions for manual installation at the Security Portal are usually
>>> updated daily.
>>>
>>> If you allow Automatic Updates to update Defender, what Definitions
>>> version is Defender displaying for you at the moment? That's really all
>>> you need to worry about.
>>>
>>> Microsoft has established separate newsgroups for Windows Defender
>>> support
>>> and comments. This is not one of them.
>>>
>>> See
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...s/default.mspx
>>> --
>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>>> MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
>>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
>>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>>>
>>>
>>> Matty wrote:
>>>> I'm using WinXP Pro SP2.
>>>>
>>>> Are we supposed to rely on Microsoft Update for definition updates for
>>>> Windows Defender?
>>>>
>>>> The reason I'm asking is that when I use MS Update to check for current
>>>> updates for my computer, it listed "Definition Update for Windows
>>>> Defender -
>>>> KB915597 (Definition 1.24.5193.0)."
>>>>
>>>> The MS Malware Protection Center
>>>> (http://www.microsoft.com/security/portal/ADL.aspx), however, listed
>>>> 1.24.5364.0 as the latest definition version.
>>>>
>>>> Why is the MS Update page listing an older definition version?