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Old 01-09-2008
Sam Hobbs
 

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Notification of available updates
Is there a way to get notification when updates have been downloaded and are
ready to be installed?

I have automatic application of updates turned off; I have automatic
download of updates on. I am a standalone system. I am a developer but the
account I normally use does not have Administrator priviledges. That is what
security experts say we should do; we should operate with least privileges.
I can and I do switch to the Administrator account to apply updates. Oh, and
one more thing; my system does not turn off the electricity automatically
like most systems, and I like it like that.

So what happens is that updates get downloaded automatically and silently; I
don't know about them until I am ready to turn off the computer. When I am
ready to turn off the computer, I do not want to wait for the updates.

Is there a way to get notification when updates are ready for installation?
I assume there is a way if I write a script, which I will do if I need to,
but the logical route is to first ask here if there is something already
available. I do realize that this question has likely been asked before, so
if someone can suggest what keywords to use to search for previous answers
then hopefully that is all I need.



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Old 01-09-2008
neo [mvp outlook]
 

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Re: Notification of available updates
Yes you can. You are after the ElevateNonAdmins registry key.

http://technet2.microsoft.com/window....mspx?mfr=true

"Sam Hobbs" <samuel@social.rr.com_change_social_to_socal> wrote in message
news:OsIGeBlUIHA.280@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Is there a way to get notification when updates have been downloaded and
> are ready to be installed?
>
> I have automatic application of updates turned off; I have automatic
> download of updates on. I am a standalone system. I am a developer but the
> account I normally use does not have Administrator priviledges. That is
> what security experts say we should do; we should operate with least
> privileges. I can and I do switch to the Administrator account to apply
> updates. Oh, and one more thing; my system does not turn off the
> electricity automatically like most systems, and I like it like that.
>
> So what happens is that updates get downloaded automatically and silently;
> I don't know about them until I am ready to turn off the computer. When I
> am ready to turn off the computer, I do not want to wait for the updates.
>
> Is there a way to get notification when updates are ready for
> installation? I assume there is a way if I write a script, which I will do
> if I need to, but the logical route is to first ask here if there is
> something already available. I do realize that this question has likely
> been asked before, so if someone can suggest what keywords to use to
> search for previous answers then hopefully that is all I need.
>
>
>



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Old 01-09-2008
PA Bear [MS MVP]
 

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Re: Notification of available updates
Windows version?

Are you aware of Automatic Updates' "Notify Only" setting?
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/


Sam Hobbs wrote:
> Is there a way to get notification when updates have been downloaded and
> are
> ready to be installed?
>
> I have automatic application of updates turned off; I have automatic
> download of updates on. I am a standalone system. I am a developer but the
> account I normally use does not have Administrator priviledges. That is
> what
> security experts say we should do; we should operate with least
> privileges.
> I can and I do switch to the Administrator account to apply updates. Oh,
> and
> one more thing; my system does not turn off the electricity automatically
> like most systems, and I like it like that.
>
> So what happens is that updates get downloaded automatically and silently;
> I
> don't know about them until I am ready to turn off the computer. When I am
> ready to turn off the computer, I do not want to wait for the updates.
>
> Is there a way to get notification when updates are ready for
> installation?
> I assume there is a way if I write a script, which I will do if I need to,
> but the logical route is to first ask here if there is something already
> available. I do realize that this question has likely been asked before,
> so
> if someone can suggest what keywords to use to search for previous answers
> then hopefully that is all I need.


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Old 01-09-2008
Sam Hobbs
 

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Re: Notification of available updates
Sorry, I assumed that version does not matter. I have XP Pro.

I think I have seen the "Notify Only" option but I will look again at the
details.


"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:OCqsTJmUIHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Windows version?
>
> Are you aware of Automatic Updates' "Notify Only" setting?
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>
>
> Sam Hobbs wrote:
>> Is there a way to get notification when updates have been downloaded and
>> are
>> ready to be installed?
>>
>> I have automatic application of updates turned off; I have automatic
>> download of updates on. I am a standalone system. I am a developer but
>> the
>> account I normally use does not have Administrator priviledges. That is
>> what
>> security experts say we should do; we should operate with least
>> privileges.
>> I can and I do switch to the Administrator account to apply updates. Oh,
>> and
>> one more thing; my system does not turn off the electricity automatically
>> like most systems, and I like it like that.
>>
>> So what happens is that updates get downloaded automatically and
>> silently; I
>> don't know about them until I am ready to turn off the computer. When I
>> am
>> ready to turn off the computer, I do not want to wait for the updates.
>>
>> Is there a way to get notification when updates are ready for
>> installation?
>> I assume there is a way if I write a script, which I will do if I need
>> to,
>> but the logical route is to first ask here if there is something already
>> available. I do realize that this question has likely been asked before,
>> so
>> if someone can suggest what keywords to use to search for previous
>> answers
>> then hopefully that is all I need.

>
>




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Old 01-09-2008
PA Bear [MS MVP]
 

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Re: Notification of available updates
If "Notify Only" is selected, you're notified (1) that updates are available
for downloading and (2) that updates you've approved have been downloaded
and are ready to be installed.
--
~PA Bear

Sam Hobbs wrote:
> Sorry, I assumed that version does not matter. I have XP Pro.
>
> I think I have seen the "Notify Only" option but I will look again at the
> details.
>
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OCqsTJmUIHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Windows version?
>>
>> Are you aware of Automatic Updates' "Notify Only" setting?
>> --
>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>>
>>
>> Sam Hobbs wrote:
>>> Is there a way to get notification when updates have been downloaded and
>>> are
>>> ready to be installed?
>>>
>>> I have automatic application of updates turned off; I have automatic
>>> download of updates on. I am a standalone system. I am a developer but
>>> the
>>> account I normally use does not have Administrator priviledges. That is
>>> what
>>> security experts say we should do; we should operate with least
>>> privileges.
>>> I can and I do switch to the Administrator account to apply updates. Oh,
>>> and
>>> one more thing; my system does not turn off the electricity
>>> automatically
>>> like most systems, and I like it like that.
>>>
>>> So what happens is that updates get downloaded automatically and
>>> silently; I
>>> don't know about them until I am ready to turn off the computer. When I
>>> am
>>> ready to turn off the computer, I do not want to wait for the updates.
>>>
>>> Is there a way to get notification when updates are ready for
>>> installation?
>>> I assume there is a way if I write a script, which I will do if I need
>>> to,
>>> but the logical route is to first ask here if there is something already
>>> available. I do realize that this question has likely been asked before,
>>> so
>>> if someone can suggest what keywords to use to search for previous
>>> answers
>>> then hopefully that is all I need.


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Old 01-09-2008
Sam Hobbs
 

Posts: n/a
Re: Notification of available updates
I am sorry I was not clear. The problem is not an inability to apply
updates; the problem is knowing that updates exist and are ready to be
installed.

Perhaps it will help to remind everyone that the Administrator gets notified
when updates are ready but not non-Administrators. I just need the
notification that there are updates ready, essentially the same as the
Administrator is notified. If my non-Administrator (regular-use) account
gets notified then there are many options available for me to apply them. I
would prefer to loggoff my regular account and logon to the Administrator
account because updates usually require a restart. Switching accounts is not
the problem.



"neo [mvp outlook]" <neo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:%23d$0VYlUIHA.4740@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Yes you can. You are after the ElevateNonAdmins registry key.
>
> http://technet2.microsoft.com/window....mspx?mfr=true
>
> "Sam Hobbs" <samuel@social.rr.com_change_social_to_socal> wrote in message
> news:OsIGeBlUIHA.280@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Is there a way to get notification when updates have been downloaded and
>> are ready to be installed?
>>
>> I have automatic application of updates turned off; I have automatic
>> download of updates on. I am a standalone system. I am a developer but
>> the account I normally use does not have Administrator priviledges. That
>> is what security experts say we should do; we should operate with least
>> privileges. I can and I do switch to the Administrator account to apply
>> updates. Oh, and one more thing; my system does not turn off the
>> electricity automatically like most systems, and I like it like that.
>>
>> So what happens is that updates get downloaded automatically and
>> silently; I don't know about them until I am ready to turn off the
>> computer. When I am ready to turn off the computer, I do not want to wait
>> for the updates.
>>
>> Is there a way to get notification when updates are ready for
>> installation? I assume there is a way if I write a script, which I will
>> do if I need to, but the logical route is to first ask here if there is
>> something already available. I do realize that this question has likely
>> been asked before, so if someone can suggest what keywords to use to
>> search for previous answers then hopefully that is all I need.
>>
>>
>>

>
>
>




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Old 01-09-2008
Sam Hobbs
 

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Re: Notification of available updates
I tried to find the relevant documentation. The XP help was no help, so I
tried to search for it, as in:

http://search.technet.microsoft.com/...=00&lang=en-us

I do not see anything relevant there either. So I tried to find the Windows
Update documentation in TechNet but I don't know my way around it. I did get
to the following:

http://www.update.microsoft.com/wind....aspx?ln=en-us

Which says "To install updates from this website, you must be logged on as
an administrator or a member of the Administrators group on your computer.".
That does not help; I don't want to install it, I want the documentation of
it.

So to repeat what I said in another reply, I want my non-Administrator
account to be notified. Will the "Notify Only" option do that? I assume not.


"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:OCqsTJmUIHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Windows version?
>
> Are you aware of Automatic Updates' "Notify Only" setting?
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>
>
> Sam Hobbs wrote:
>> Is there a way to get notification when updates have been downloaded and
>> are
>> ready to be installed?
>>
>> I have automatic application of updates turned off; I have automatic
>> download of updates on. I am a standalone system. I am a developer but
>> the
>> account I normally use does not have Administrator priviledges. That is
>> what
>> security experts say we should do; we should operate with least
>> privileges.
>> I can and I do switch to the Administrator account to apply updates. Oh,
>> and
>> one more thing; my system does not turn off the electricity automatically
>> like most systems, and I like it like that.
>>
>> So what happens is that updates get downloaded automatically and
>> silently; I
>> don't know about them until I am ready to turn off the computer. When I
>> am
>> ready to turn off the computer, I do not want to wait for the updates.
>>
>> Is there a way to get notification when updates are ready for
>> installation?
>> I assume there is a way if I write a script, which I will do if I need
>> to,
>> but the logical route is to first ask here if there is something already
>> available. I do realize that this question has likely been asked before,
>> so
>> if someone can suggest what keywords to use to search for previous
>> answers
>> then hopefully that is all I need.

>
>




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Old 01-09-2008
Susan Bradley
 

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Re: Notification of available updates
There is a setting somewhere (as I have it in my WSUS server

"allow non administrators to receive update notifications"

Sam Hobbs wrote:
> I tried to find the relevant documentation. The XP help was no help, so I
> tried to search for it, as in:
>
> http://search.technet.microsoft.com/...=00&lang=en-us
>
> I do not see anything relevant there either. So I tried to find the Windows
> Update documentation in TechNet but I don't know my way around it. I did get
> to the following:
>
> http://www.update.microsoft.com/wind....aspx?ln=en-us
>
> Which says "To install updates from this website, you must be logged on as
> an administrator or a member of the Administrators group on your computer.".
> That does not help; I don't want to install it, I want the documentation of
> it.
>
> So to repeat what I said in another reply, I want my non-Administrator
> account to be notified. Will the "Notify Only" option do that? I assume not.
>
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OCqsTJmUIHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Windows version?
>>
>> Are you aware of Automatic Updates' "Notify Only" setting?
>> --
>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>>
>>
>> Sam Hobbs wrote:
>>> Is there a way to get notification when updates have been downloaded and
>>> are
>>> ready to be installed?
>>>
>>> I have automatic application of updates turned off; I have automatic
>>> download of updates on. I am a standalone system. I am a developer but
>>> the
>>> account I normally use does not have Administrator priviledges. That is
>>> what
>>> security experts say we should do; we should operate with least
>>> privileges.
>>> I can and I do switch to the Administrator account to apply updates. Oh,
>>> and
>>> one more thing; my system does not turn off the electricity automatically
>>> like most systems, and I like it like that.
>>>
>>> So what happens is that updates get downloaded automatically and
>>> silently; I
>>> don't know about them until I am ready to turn off the computer. When I
>>> am
>>> ready to turn off the computer, I do not want to wait for the updates.
>>>
>>> Is there a way to get notification when updates are ready for
>>> installation?
>>> I assume there is a way if I write a script, which I will do if I need
>>> to,
>>> but the logical route is to first ask here if there is something already
>>> available. I do realize that this question has likely been asked before,
>>> so
>>> if someone can suggest what keywords to use to search for previous
>>> answers
>>> then hopefully that is all I need.

>>

>
>
>

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Old 01-09-2008
neo [mvp outlook]
 

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Re: Notification of available updates
If you had researched my answer, you would have found out that it allows
non-admins to interact with the windows update shield and more. (This is
the registry key that gets set via Susan's response to you about "allow non
administrators to receive update notifications")

"Sam Hobbs" <samuel@social.rr.com_change_social_to_socal> wrote in message
news:uCLqvZmUIHA.476@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>I am sorry I was not clear. The problem is not an inability to apply
>updates; the problem is knowing that updates exist and are ready to be
>installed.
>
> Perhaps it will help to remind everyone that the Administrator gets
> notified when updates are ready but not non-Administrators. I just need
> the notification that there are updates ready, essentially the same as the
> Administrator is notified. If my non-Administrator (regular-use) account
> gets notified then there are many options available for me to apply them.
> I would prefer to loggoff my regular account and logon to the
> Administrator account because updates usually require a restart. Switching
> accounts is not the problem.
>
>
>
> "neo [mvp outlook]" <neo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:%23d$0VYlUIHA.4740@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Yes you can. You are after the ElevateNonAdmins registry key.
>>
>> http://technet2.microsoft.com/window....mspx?mfr=true
>>
>> "Sam Hobbs" <samuel@social.rr.com_change_social_to_socal> wrote in
>> message news:OsIGeBlUIHA.280@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> Is there a way to get notification when updates have been downloaded and
>>> are ready to be installed?
>>>
>>> I have automatic application of updates turned off; I have automatic
>>> download of updates on. I am a standalone system. I am a developer but
>>> the account I normally use does not have Administrator priviledges. That
>>> is what security experts say we should do; we should operate with least
>>> privileges. I can and I do switch to the Administrator account to apply
>>> updates. Oh, and one more thing; my system does not turn off the
>>> electricity automatically like most systems, and I like it like that.
>>>
>>> So what happens is that updates get downloaded automatically and
>>> silently; I don't know about them until I am ready to turn off the
>>> computer. When I am ready to turn off the computer, I do not want to
>>> wait for the updates.
>>>
>>> Is there a way to get notification when updates are ready for
>>> installation? I assume there is a way if I write a script, which I will
>>> do if I need to, but the logical route is to first ask here if there is
>>> something already available. I do realize that this question has likely
>>> been asked before, so if someone can suggest what keywords to use to
>>> search for previous answers then hopefully that is all I need.
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>>

>
>
>



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Old 01-09-2008
MowGreen [MVP]
 

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Re: Notification of available updates
For XP Pro:

Start > Run > gpedit.msc
Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Components >
Windows Update > Allow non-administrators to receive update notifications

" If the status is set to Enabled, Automatic Updates will include
non-administrators when determining which logged-on user should receive
notification.

If the status is set to Disabled or Not Configured, Automatic Updates
will notify only logged-on administrators.

Note: If the "Configure Automatic Updates" policy is disabled, this
policy has no effect. "


MowGreen [MVP 2003-2008]
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===============


Susan Bradley wrote:

> There is a setting somewhere (as I have it in my WSUS server
>
> "allow non administrators to receive update notifications"
>
> Sam Hobbs wrote:
>
>> I tried to find the relevant documentation. The XP help was no help,
>> so I tried to search for it, as in:
>>
>> http://search.technet.microsoft.com/...=00&lang=en-us
>>
>>
>> I do not see anything relevant there either. So I tried to find the
>> Windows Update documentation in TechNet but I don't know my way around
>> it. I did get to the following:
>>
>> http://www.update.microsoft.com/wind....aspx?ln=en-us
>>
>> Which says "To install updates from this website, you must be logged
>> on as an administrator or a member of the Administrators group on your
>> computer.". That does not help; I don't want to install it, I want the
>> documentation of it.
>>
>> So to repeat what I said in another reply, I want my non-Administrator
>> account to be notified. Will the "Notify Only" option do that? I
>> assume not.
>>
>>
>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:OCqsTJmUIHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>
>>> Windows version?
>>>
>>> Are you aware of Automatic Updates' "Notify Only" setting?
>>> --
>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>>> MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
>>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
>>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>>>
>>>
>>> Sam Hobbs wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is there a way to get notification when updates have been downloaded
>>>> and are
>>>> ready to be installed?
>>>>
>>>> I have automatic application of updates turned off; I have automatic
>>>> download of updates on. I am a standalone system. I am a developer
>>>> but the
>>>> account I normally use does not have Administrator priviledges. That
>>>> is what
>>>> security experts say we should do; we should operate with least
>>>> privileges.
>>>> I can and I do switch to the Administrator account to apply updates.
>>>> Oh, and
>>>> one more thing; my system does not turn off the electricity
>>>> automatically
>>>> like most systems, and I like it like that.
>>>>
>>>> So what happens is that updates get downloaded automatically and
>>>> silently; I
>>>> don't know about them until I am ready to turn off the computer.
>>>> When I am
>>>> ready to turn off the computer, I do not want to wait for the updates.
>>>>
>>>> Is there a way to get notification when updates are ready for
>>>> installation?
>>>> I assume there is a way if I write a script, which I will do if I
>>>> need to,
>>>> but the logical route is to first ask here if there is something
>>>> already
>>>> available. I do realize that this question has likely been asked
>>>> before, so
>>>> if someone can suggest what keywords to use to search for previous
>>>> answers
>>>> then hopefully that is all I need.
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>>

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