"Ripley" <Ripley@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >I cannot post the entire log from 5pm for a particular date because it's
> >too long.
> Let's try quoting my request again:
> >> Can you please repost this log snippet starting at 11/13 17:00
> >> and going through 11/13 17:15,
> Now, frankly, I've never seen a scenario where ==15 minutes== of
> WindowsUpdate.log wouldn't fit in a single posting...
> but on the rare chance that might actually occur.... I suggested this
> >> or as much as you can get into a single posting.
> Thanks for your response. I'm not too sure there was any need for the
> of sarcasm that came across on the post.
I'm sorry that you interpreted that as sarcasm, though I'll admit I was
somewhat critical of your response.
For the most part however, my comments were nothing but very strongly
> 1) Yes I understood perfectly well what you asked me to do
Yet, you chose not to do what I suggested
> 2) Yes I know how to post a snippet from 5pm to 5.15pm
That was never in question.
> 3) Whether you have seen it or not, I can assure you that the time frame
> the snippet you were asking about would NOT fit into this forum
[a] I've never seen 15 minutes of log entries span more than a few
[b] On the off chance that it might have actually happened (certainly
I've not seen everything)...
I noted that a single posting of whatever could be posted would
be more than sufficient to proceed with the analysis
(and, truth be told, probably isolate the actual cause -- given
that if that many lines were generated in 15 minutes, it's likely a
gazillion repeats of a few lines for several dozen updates -- and I only
need the first one to identify the issue)
[c] Despite giving you the option, you indicated that wasn't even
possible and decided you'd rather communicate via email. Now, I can
absolutely guarantee you that nobody will ever get an email address from me
based on their solicitation of that email address, unless I also agree that
continuing the conversation is =inappropriate= (not, merely, inconvenient)
to continue in a public forum.
> 4) Instead of posting a NON COMPLETE version of the snippet, and therefore
> opening myself up for further criticism since you may not have been able
> see the portion of the log file you were interested in, etc ... I decided
> would be best to send you the complete log file via email. Hence the
> for your email address
See, this is an *assumption* on your part (and an erroneous one, at that),
for being concerned about being criticized for complying with my request. I
specificaly said "...or as much as you can get into a single posting..." --
yet you're concerned I would be critical of you for doing exactly that.
And, presuming that those fif**** minutes do span more lines than will
physically fit in a newsgroup post, I'm inclined to think the true nature of
the problem will likely be identified in the first couple of dozen lines
anyway -- and I'm fairly confident that it's highly unlikely it would take
more than a single post of log entries to isolate the root cause (and
possibly even a solution).
So, instead, we both have just wasted a couple of days of /your/ time
diagnosing this issue so we could engage in this little rant, when, instead,
right now, you might already have the exact cause and resolution to /your/
problem, had I been able to review even a portion of your log entries
yesterday, instead of engaging in this little spat today.
> To be honest, I never post replies in a sarcastic way to people since we
> all part of the same community and as such we are supposed to work
> to solve issues. I try and answer posts whenever I feel I have something
> beneficial to offer, and I am never sarcastic or overly short with people.
Your point is well taken. Again, I apologize, and it's unfortunate you
interpreted my words as sarcasm, rather than just disapointment at your
willingness to work with me in my attempt to help /you/ get a resolution to
> If you cannot extend the same courtesy to me on this forum then I'd rather
> that you didn't reply in the first place.
Havind said that, my offer still stands. If you can post the fif**** minutes
of log entries, or as much as can be posted in a single post, I'll be happy
to review the log entries, and point out the likely cause(s) of your issue.
Lawrence Garvin, M.S., MCTS, MCP
Senior Data Architect, APQC, Houston, Texas
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