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Vista treating Admin as regular user?

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Old 06-08-2008
Martin
 

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Vista treating Admin as regular user?
I am in the Administrator group on my own network, i am also in the Admin
group of the local Vista pc, connected to a 2003 server.

For some reason i do not have any Admin rights when i log on to the server.
It treats me as a regular user, I think. I can't change security settings,
can't install any programs, can't browse the network.

Is this the way Vista is supposed to work or is something broken? And how do
i get real Admin privileges?


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Old 06-08-2008
Martin
 

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Re: Vista treating Admin as regular user?
Just to be more clear. The problem is not when i am actually on the server,
only when i'm on the local Vista machine. The message i get is "Access
Denied".


"Martin" <m_blackwell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:nJW2k.4034$ZE5.1240@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com...
>I am in the Administrator group on my own network, i am also in the Admin
>group of the local Vista pc, connected to a 2003 server.
>
> For some reason i do not have any Admin rights when i log on to the
> server. It treats me as a regular user, I think. I can't change security
> settings, can't install any programs, can't browse the network.
>
> Is this the way Vista is supposed to work or is something broken? And how
> do i get real Admin privileges?
>



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Old 06-08-2008
Sarah White
 

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Re: Vista treating Admin as regular user?
By default, windows vista asks anyone using "full admin" accounts "do
you really want to do this? bad things could happen!"

The way to do what you're talking about is disabling "UAC" (user account
control) and rebooting... that's the only way to do it if you really
want to use it as a full admin account 24/7.

linux admins call using a 24/7 "root" (administrative) account "rooting
around" ... in vista, you're going to have to disable default
protections to be able to execute the equivalent security-suicide.

Control Panel -> Security Center... it's the fourth section (after
firewall, windows update and virus/malware protection) called "other
settings"

Windows Security will throw up red flags though (in your tool tray) it's
considered as being in the same category as allowing webpages to run
random scripts and install activex controls (the malicious ones out
there will hijack your browser that way)
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Old 06-08-2008
Mr. Arnold
 

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Re: Vista treating Admin as regular user?

"Martin" <m_blackwell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:sOW2k.4036$ZE5.2589@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com...
> Just to be more clear. The problem is not when i am actually on the
> server, only when i'm on the local Vista machine. The message i get is
> "Access Denied".
>
>



Yes, that's the way Vista works is that anyone with Admin rights will be
locked down to standard user rights in some cases. I hear that there is a so
called admin account you can login with on Vista to give full access like
XP, but I have not looked for the howto.

But what you really have is an user account permissions issue you need to
figure out, even with admin rights on Vista. Thus, the access denied
message, which I have faced that problem on Vista with user account
permissions issues on a folder I had to correct. I even faced that problem
with two XP pro machines and having permission issues on a share and the
*access denied*, until I found the account that superseded all accounts
with its permissions (Everyone) on the share.

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Old 06-09-2008
Sarah White
 

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Re: Vista treating Admin as regular user?
Yeah... if you want to directly use the "administrator" account I was
explaining that to someone else in another group on this server. Here's
that post:

news://msnews.microsoft.com:119/7e2e...tp-gateway.com

And my the not recommended steps (for direct "administrator" login) I
replied with:

news://msnews.microsoft.com:119/OUrB...TNGP06.phx.gbl
news://msnews.microsoft.com:119/ugaA...TNGP06.phx.gbl
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Old 06-09-2008
Martin
 

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Re: Vista treating Admin as regular user?
When i click on those links i get a "server not found" message in Outlook
Express (which is what i use for newsgroups). After that dialog box i get
another that says the message has expired from the server.



"Sarah White" <kuzetsa@cableone.net> wrote in message
news:eNDR$LcyIHA.4492@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Yeah... if you want to directly use the "administrator" account I was
> explaining that to someone else in another group on this server. Here's
> that post:
>
> news://msnews.microsoft.com:119/7e2e...tp-gateway.com
>
> And my the not recommended steps (for direct "administrator" login) I
> replied with:
>
> news://msnews.microsoft.com:119/OUrB...TNGP06.phx.gbl
> news://msnews.microsoft.com:119/ugaA...TNGP06.phx.gbl



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Old 06-09-2008
Sarah White
 

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Re: Vista treating Admin as regular user?
The thread is titled "i got two new administrative accounts plus my
normal account with admin privellegies"
it was found on this news server under the section
"microsoft.public.windows.vista.administration_acc ounts_passwords"

I was certain the new product was named "windows mail" ... alternatively
you can directly paste the news:// links into internet explorer 7 (I
know for a fact that an unmodified vista system can use those addresses
in IE 7 to at least view a single post)

For that matter, how on earth are you using outlook express on windows
vista? Any case, I've now listed the groups themselves, as well as the
title of the original thread; however you choose to navigate to the
thread and / reply posts I made on that thread is entirely up to you.

Anyone that posts on the internet is going to get their name / email
harvested by spammers... Personally I'm using "mozilla thunderbird" for
it's anti-spam features; I just can't do without my adaptive junk
detection / dns blacklist support through add-ons (or otherwise)

Martin wrote:
> When i click on those links i get a "server not found" message in Outlook
> Express (which is what i use for newsgroups). After that dialog box i get
> another that says the message has expired from the server.

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Old 06-10-2008
Martin
 

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Re: Vista treating Admin as regular user?
Thanks so much for the links. Very informative. BTW, XP is still my primary
workstation, hence Outlook Express. Vista is a new addition to my network.


"Sarah White" <kuzetsa@cableone.net> wrote in message
news:eC5E99lyIHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> The thread is titled "i got two new administrative accounts plus my normal
> account with admin privellegies"
> it was found on this news server under the section
> "microsoft.public.windows.vista.administration_acc ounts_passwords"
>
> I was certain the new product was named "windows mail" ... alternatively
> you can directly paste the news:// links into internet explorer 7 (I know
> for a fact that an unmodified vista system can use those addresses in IE 7
> to at least view a single post)
>
> For that matter, how on earth are you using outlook express on windows
> vista? Any case, I've now listed the groups themselves, as well as the
> title of the original thread; however you choose to navigate to the thread
> and / reply posts I made on that thread is entirely up to you.
>
> Anyone that posts on the internet is going to get their name / email
> harvested by spammers... Personally I'm using "mozilla thunderbird" for
> it's anti-spam features; I just can't do without my adaptive junk
> detection / dns blacklist support through add-ons (or otherwise)
>
> Martin wrote:
>> When i click on those links i get a "server not found" message in Outlook
>> Express (which is what i use for newsgroups). After that dialog box i get
>> another that says the message has expired from the server.



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