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Re: Refreshing Web Pages in IE7

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Old 01-30-2008
PA Bear [MS MVP]
 

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Re: Refreshing Web Pages in IE7
[Crossposted to Vista Security newsgroup for wider exposure]

> I connect via a broadband "always on" service...
> ...The other PC in the house that I have to go to in order to view
> the "true" web site is an XP-SR2 system with IE6 which uses the same ISP
> access (no probs with that system).


Does the Vista machine connect via wireless, via a router or directly to the
cable modem? If the either of the former, does connecting directly to the
modem resolve the behavior?

How does the WinXP machine connect? If you connect the Vista machine the
same way and in the same location, does the behavior persist?

If you install IE7 (which can be uninstalled, returning the machine to IE6)
on the WinXP machine, do you see the same behavior? (I can't imagine that
it would but YMMV.)
=============================
Required reading IMHO before installing IE7:

Sandi's Installation Tips <= FOLLOW THESE TIPS TO THE LETTER!
http://www.ie-vista.com/known_issues.html#pre-install

[And I strongly recommend using
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/dow.../getitnow.mspx as the
installation source, not Automatic/Windows Update. Make *certain* that you
check in at Windows Update immediately after installing IE7 and install any
critical updates offered. If Optional Updates category offers Root
Certificates update, I recommend installing it to take full advantage of
IE7's additional security.]

Uninstalling IE7 (which automatically returns you to IE6)
http://www.ie-vista.com/kbase2.html
[also see http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927177]

IE7 (Un)Installation and Anti-Malware Applications:
http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/200...lications.aspx
=============================
What anti-virus application or security suite is installed on the Vista
machine (name & version)? What anti-spyware application(s) (if any), other
than Windows Defender?

What third-party firewall firewall is installed (if any)?

> Incidentally, now that I've reset IE7, I now have the problem whereby I
> click on the link from the email I received from this thread "click this
> link to continue receiving notifications for this thread" whereby an IE7
> window opens to a blank screen...


The MS newsgroups accessed via the Community web-interface have been having
bizarre issues since early Jan-08. I dunno what's wrong or when it'll be
fixed. MS ain't talking about it.

These issues have not affected NNTP (newsreader) access and I recommend that
you do so. Click on the following link to open the IE General newsgroup in
your default newsreader (e.g., Windows Mail):
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...plorer.general

Vista Security newsgroup:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...vista.security
--
~PA Bear

T. Kainz wrote:
> I should also note that I tried "resetting" IE7 with no additional luck.
> This in-and-of-itself concerns me for if the reset is to be the equivelent
> of wiping the slate clean and starting completely fresh with IE7 then
> where
> is it pulling this old version of the web site from because it certainly
> isn't from the website itself, that's for sure.
>
> Incidentally, now that I've reset IE7, I now have the problem whereby I
> click on the link from the email I received from this thread "click this
> link to continue receiving notifications for this thread" whereby an IE7
> window opens to a blank screen. So I went back to the site through the
> normal route found my posting. I was prompted to sign in (my cookies were
> deleted with the reset) and after signing in was redirected to a blank
> page. I hit the refresh button and then the posting thread finally
> appeared.
>
> ARRRRRRRGH!

<paste>
> I connect via a broadband "always on" service. I've also tried diasbling
> all non-relevent toolbars or browser add-ons. I can even reboot the
> system
> and I still get the non-current version of the site. I should have
> mentioned that I have Vista Home Premium running on an AMD 64x2 3800+ with
> 2942 RAM. The other PC in the house that I have to go to in order to view
> the "true" web site is an XP-SR2 system with IE6 which uses the same ISP
> access (no probs with that system). By the way, this happens to more than
> one site that I maintain or visit for that matter. I update a website for
> a friend as a favor and have had to call him before to look at the website
> to make sure the changes I did and uploaded for him went through because
> nothing I could do could get the revised site to load. The next day,
> though, when I retried, I finally got the new version of the page in my
> IE7.
>
> Thanks again for your help

</paste>
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>> Do you connect via dial-up and is a "internet accelerator" installed
>> (e.g.,
>> one that installed with your ISP's software; one that installed with
>> Google
>> Toolbar)?
>>
>> In no certain order:
>>
>> Internet Explorer stops responding, stops working, or restarts (Guided
>> Help) http://support.microsoft.com/gp/pc_ie_intro
>>
>> How to optimize or reset Internet Explorer 7:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936213
>>
>> How to troubleshoot Internet Explorer 7 issues in Windows Vista:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936215
>>
>> How to troubleshoot network connectivity problems in Internet Explorer:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936211
>> --
>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>>
>>
>> T. Kainz wrote:
>>> I have IE v. 7.0.6000.16575
>>>
>>> I've been noticing lately that the web sites I regularly visit haven't
>>> been
>>> refreshing as they should. As a matter of fact, today, I've been
>>> uploading
>>> new pages to my web site yet when I try to view the results in IE7 to
>>> verify
>>> the changes 'took', I see the old version of the page. I've tried
>>> refreshing the page (F5), clearing the temp files, closing down and
>>> restarting IE - basically, everything I can think of. I have tried
>>> setting my IE settings to "Every time I visit the web page", I've tried
>>> "Evertime I start Internet Explorer", I have tried increasing the disk
>>> space for IE temp files. I don't know what else to do - it's getting
>>> very
>>> frustrating. I should note that I can go to my other PC in the house
>>> which
>>> has IE 6 and the new pages I uploaded appear with the new changes,
>>> everytime I make the changes and without any delay.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance to anyone whom can assist with this frustration.
>>>
>>> Tom


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Old 01-30-2008
T. Kainz
 

Posts: n/a
Re: Refreshing Web Pages in IE7
Wow - allot of info below, but here (to the best of my ability) are the
responses.

The Vista machine, even though it's a desktop, connects via a wireless
router. The XP machine is directly connected to the same router. I can try
connecting the Vista machine directly but given that this problem seems to be
reletively recent (less than 1 month) and they've been connected this way for
almost a year it doesn;t make sense.

While I'd like to "test" the XP machine by installing IE7, I cannot. That
is my work PC and we have VERY stringent rules - i.e. (no pun intended) I
cannot install any software of my own. P.S. We've been specifically reminded
of that rule with respects to IE7 (?)

I'm currently using ZoneAlarm Security Suite adn have been for almost a year:


ZoneAlarm Security Suite version:7.1.078.000
TrueVector version:7.1.078.000
Driver version:7.1.078.000
Anti-virus engine version:3
Anti-virus signature DAT file version:20080129162000
Anti-spyware engine version:5.0.189.0
Anti-spyware signature DAT file version:01.200801.3235
AntiSpam version:5.0.0.8843

Thanks to everyone for trying to help me with this issue. All of your quick
responses are, well, impressing the hell out of me.

Thanks

I'm still in the process of running a search on the whole PC for anything
"temp" to try to find out whrer this stuff is being stored.

thanks again



"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> [Crossposted to Vista Security newsgroup for wider exposure]
>
> > I connect via a broadband "always on" service...
> > ...The other PC in the house that I have to go to in order to view
> > the "true" web site is an XP-SR2 system with IE6 which uses the same ISP
> > access (no probs with that system).

>
> Does the Vista machine connect via wireless, via a router or directly to the
> cable modem? If the either of the former, does connecting directly to the
> modem resolve the behavior?
>
> How does the WinXP machine connect? If you connect the Vista machine the
> same way and in the same location, does the behavior persist?
>
> If you install IE7 (which can be uninstalled, returning the machine to IE6)
> on the WinXP machine, do you see the same behavior? (I can't imagine that
> it would but YMMV.)
> =============================
> Required reading IMHO before installing IE7:
>
> Sandi's Installation Tips <= FOLLOW THESE TIPS TO THE LETTER!
> http://www.ie-vista.com/known_issues.html#pre-install
>
> [And I strongly recommend using
> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/dow.../getitnow.mspx as the
> installation source, not Automatic/Windows Update. Make *certain* that you
> check in at Windows Update immediately after installing IE7 and install any
> critical updates offered. If Optional Updates category offers Root
> Certificates update, I recommend installing it to take full advantage of
> IE7's additional security.]
>
> Uninstalling IE7 (which automatically returns you to IE6)
> http://www.ie-vista.com/kbase2.html
> [also see http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927177]
>
> IE7 (Un)Installation and Anti-Malware Applications:
> http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/200...lications.aspx
> =============================
> What anti-virus application or security suite is installed on the Vista
> machine (name & version)? What anti-spyware application(s) (if any), other
> than Windows Defender?
>
> What third-party firewall firewall is installed (if any)?
>
> > Incidentally, now that I've reset IE7, I now have the problem whereby I
> > click on the link from the email I received from this thread "click this
> > link to continue receiving notifications for this thread" whereby an IE7
> > window opens to a blank screen...

>
> The MS newsgroups accessed via the Community web-interface have been having
> bizarre issues since early Jan-08. I dunno what's wrong or when it'll be
> fixed. MS ain't talking about it.
>
> These issues have not affected NNTP (newsreader) access and I recommend that
> you do so. Click on the following link to open the IE General newsgroup in
> your default newsreader (e.g., Windows Mail):
> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...plorer.general
>
> Vista Security newsgroup:
> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...vista.security
> --
> ~PA Bear
>
> T. Kainz wrote:
> > I should also note that I tried "resetting" IE7 with no additional luck.
> > This in-and-of-itself concerns me for if the reset is to be the equivelent
> > of wiping the slate clean and starting completely fresh with IE7 then
> > where
> > is it pulling this old version of the web site from because it certainly
> > isn't from the website itself, that's for sure.
> >
> > Incidentally, now that I've reset IE7, I now have the problem whereby I
> > click on the link from the email I received from this thread "click this
> > link to continue receiving notifications for this thread" whereby an IE7
> > window opens to a blank screen. So I went back to the site through the
> > normal route found my posting. I was prompted to sign in (my cookies were
> > deleted with the reset) and after signing in was redirected to a blank
> > page. I hit the refresh button and then the posting thread finally
> > appeared.
> >
> > ARRRRRRRGH!

> <paste>
> > I connect via a broadband "always on" service. I've also tried diasbling
> > all non-relevent toolbars or browser add-ons. I can even reboot the
> > system
> > and I still get the non-current version of the site. I should have
> > mentioned that I have Vista Home Premium running on an AMD 64x2 3800+ with
> > 2942 RAM. The other PC in the house that I have to go to in order to view
> > the "true" web site is an XP-SR2 system with IE6 which uses the same ISP
> > access (no probs with that system). By the way, this happens to more than
> > one site that I maintain or visit for that matter. I update a website for
> > a friend as a favor and have had to call him before to look at the website
> > to make sure the changes I did and uploaded for him went through because
> > nothing I could do could get the revised site to load. The next day,
> > though, when I retried, I finally got the new version of the page in my
> > IE7.
> >
> > Thanks again for your help

> </paste>
> >
> > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
> >> Do you connect via dial-up and is a "internet accelerator" installed
> >> (e.g.,
> >> one that installed with your ISP's software; one that installed with
> >> Google
> >> Toolbar)?
> >>
> >> In no certain order:
> >>
> >> Internet Explorer stops responding, stops working, or restarts (Guided
> >> Help) http://support.microsoft.com/gp/pc_ie_intro
> >>
> >> How to optimize or reset Internet Explorer 7:
> >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936213
> >>
> >> How to troubleshoot Internet Explorer 7 issues in Windows Vista:
> >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936215
> >>
> >> How to troubleshoot network connectivity problems in Internet Explorer:
> >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936211
> >> --
> >> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> >> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
> >> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
> >> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
> >>
> >>
> >> T. Kainz wrote:
> >>> I have IE v. 7.0.6000.16575
> >>>
> >>> I've been noticing lately that the web sites I regularly visit haven't
> >>> been
> >>> refreshing as they should. As a matter of fact, today, I've been
> >>> uploading
> >>> new pages to my web site yet when I try to view the results in IE7 to
> >>> verify
> >>> the changes 'took', I see the old version of the page. I've tried
> >>> refreshing the page (F5), clearing the temp files, closing down and
> >>> restarting IE - basically, everything I can think of. I have tried
> >>> setting my IE settings to "Every time I visit the web page", I've tried
> >>> "Evertime I start Internet Explorer", I have tried increasing the disk
> >>> space for IE temp files. I don't know what else to do - it's getting
> >>> very
> >>> frustrating. I should note that I can go to my other PC in the house
> >>> which
> >>> has IE 6 and the new pages I uploaded appear with the new changes,
> >>> everytime I make the changes and without any delay.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks in advance to anyone whom can assist with this frustration.
> >>>
> >>> Tom

>
>

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Old 01-30-2008
PA Bear [MS MVP]
 

Posts: n/a
Re: Refreshing Web Pages in IE7
Everything in my previous reply notwithstanding, other Vista (and WinXP)
users have seen similar unexpected and seemingly unresolvable problems using
ZA Security Suite.

While tweaking the ZA suite's settings may resolve your issues, you may want
to test by (1) uninstalling ZA Security Suite (after making sure you know
your Product ID in case you wish to reinstall), (2) enabling the Windows
Firewall, (3) Resetting IE again [I know, but...], and then (4) installing
another Vista-compatible anti-virus application.*

I'd especially recommend trying the above if (1) the WinXP machine is not
running ZA Security Suite and/or (2) if connecting the Vista machine
directly to the modem does not resolve the unwanted behavior.
=====
* I can highly recommend NOD32 and Kaspersky (both offer 30-day free trials;
both include a firewall). If cost is a factor, you might consider either
Avira AntiVir or Avast4 (both free; I do not recommend AVG AV).
--
~PA Bear


T. Kainz wrote:
> Wow - allot of info below, but here (to the best of my ability) are the
> responses.
>
> The Vista machine, even though it's a desktop, connects via a wireless
> router. The XP machine is directly connected to the same router. I can
> try
> connecting the Vista machine directly but given that this problem seems to
> be reletively recent (less than 1 month) and they've been connected this
> way for almost a year it doesn;t make sense.
>
> While I'd like to "test" the XP machine by installing IE7, I cannot. That
> is my work PC and we have VERY stringent rules - i.e. (no pun intended) I
> cannot install any software of my own. P.S. We've been specifically
> reminded of that rule with respects to IE7 (?)
>
> I'm currently using ZoneAlarm Security Suite adn have been for almost a
> year:
>
>
> ZoneAlarm Security Suite version:7.1.078.000
> TrueVector version:7.1.078.000
> Driver version:7.1.078.000
> Anti-virus engine version:3
> Anti-virus signature DAT file version:20080129162000
> Anti-spyware engine version:5.0.189.0
> Anti-spyware signature DAT file version:01.200801.3235
> AntiSpam version:5.0.0.8843
>
> Thanks to everyone for trying to help me with this issue. All of your
> quick
> responses are, well, impressing the hell out of me.
>
> Thanks
>
> I'm still in the process of running a search on the whole PC for anything
> "temp" to try to find out whrer this stuff is being stored.
>
> thanks again
>
>
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>
>> [Crossposted to Vista Security newsgroup for wider exposure]
>>
>>> I connect via a broadband "always on" service...
>>> ...The other PC in the house that I have to go to in order to view
>>> the "true" web site is an XP-SR2 system with IE6 which uses the same ISP
>>> access (no probs with that system).

>>
>> Does the Vista machine connect via wireless, via a router or directly to
>> the cable modem? If the either of the former, does connecting directly
>> to
>> the modem resolve the behavior?
>>
>> How does the WinXP machine connect? If you connect the Vista machine the
>> same way and in the same location, does the behavior persist?
>>
>> If you install IE7 (which can be uninstalled, returning the machine to
>> IE6)
>> on the WinXP machine, do you see the same behavior? (I can't imagine
>> that
>> it would but YMMV.)
>> =============================
>> Required reading IMHO before installing IE7:
>>
>> Sandi's Installation Tips <= FOLLOW THESE TIPS TO THE LETTER!
>> http://www.ie-vista.com/known_issues.html#pre-install
>>
>> [And I strongly recommend using
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/dow.../getitnow.mspx as the
>> installation source, not Automatic/Windows Update. Make *certain* that
>> you
>> check in at Windows Update immediately after installing IE7 and install
>> any
>> critical updates offered. If Optional Updates category offers Root
>> Certificates update, I recommend installing it to take full advantage of
>> IE7's additional security.]
>>
>> Uninstalling IE7 (which automatically returns you to IE6)
>> http://www.ie-vista.com/kbase2.html
>> [also see http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927177]
>>
>> IE7 (Un)Installation and Anti-Malware Applications:
>> http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/200...lications.aspx
>> =============================
>> What anti-virus application or security suite is installed on the Vista
>> machine (name & version)? What anti-spyware application(s) (if any),
>> other
>> than Windows Defender?
>>
>> What third-party firewall firewall is installed (if any)?
>>
>>> Incidentally, now that I've reset IE7, I now have the problem whereby I
>>> click on the link from the email I received from this thread "click this
>>> link to continue receiving notifications for this thread" whereby an IE7
>>> window opens to a blank screen...

>>
>> The MS newsgroups accessed via the Community web-interface have been
>> having
>> bizarre issues since early Jan-08. I dunno what's wrong or when it'll be
>> fixed. MS ain't talking about it.
>>
>> These issues have not affected NNTP (newsreader) access and I recommend
>> that you do so. Click on the following link to open the IE General
>> newsgroup in your default newsreader (e.g., Windows Mail):
>> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...plorer.general
>>
>> Vista Security newsgroup:
>> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...vista.security
>> --
>> ~PA Bear
>>
>> T. Kainz wrote:
>>> I should also note that I tried "resetting" IE7 with no additional luck.
>>> This in-and-of-itself concerns me for if the reset is to be the
>>> equivelent
>>> of wiping the slate clean and starting completely fresh with IE7 then
>>> where
>>> is it pulling this old version of the web site from because it certainly
>>> isn't from the website itself, that's for sure.
>>>
>>> Incidentally, now that I've reset IE7, I now have the problem whereby I
>>> click on the link from the email I received from this thread "click this
>>> link to continue receiving notifications for this thread" whereby an IE7
>>> window opens to a blank screen. So I went back to the site through the
>>> normal route found my posting. I was prompted to sign in (my cookies
>>> were
>>> deleted with the reset) and after signing in was redirected to a blank
>>> page. I hit the refresh button and then the posting thread finally
>>> appeared.
>>>
>>> ARRRRRRRGH!

>> <paste>
>>> I connect via a broadband "always on" service. I've also tried
>>> diasbling
>>> all non-relevent toolbars or browser add-ons. I can even reboot the
>>> system
>>> and I still get the non-current version of the site. I should have
>>> mentioned that I have Vista Home Premium running on an AMD 64x2 3800+
>>> with
>>> 2942 RAM. The other PC in the house that I have to go to in order to
>>> view
>>> the "true" web site is an XP-SR2 system with IE6 which uses the same ISP
>>> access (no probs with that system). By the way, this happens to more
>>> than
>>> one site that I maintain or visit for that matter. I update a website
>>> for
>>> a friend as a favor and have had to call him before to look at the
>>> website
>>> to make sure the changes I did and uploaded for him went through because
>>> nothing I could do could get the revised site to load. The next day,
>>> though, when I retried, I finally got the new version of the page in my
>>> IE7.
>>>
>>> Thanks again for your help

>> </paste>
>>>
>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>>>> Do you connect via dial-up and is a "internet accelerator" installed
>>>> (e.g.,
>>>> one that installed with your ISP's software; one that installed with
>>>> Google
>>>> Toolbar)?
>>>>
>>>> In no certain order:
>>>>
>>>> Internet Explorer stops responding, stops working, or restarts (Guided
>>>> Help) http://support.microsoft.com/gp/pc_ie_intro
>>>>
>>>> How to optimize or reset Internet Explorer 7:
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936213
>>>>
>>>> How to troubleshoot Internet Explorer 7 issues in Windows Vista:
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936215
>>>>
>>>> How to troubleshoot network connectivity problems in Internet Explorer:
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936211
>>>> --
>>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
>>>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
>>>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> T. Kainz wrote:
>>>>> I have IE v. 7.0.6000.16575
>>>>>
>>>>> I've been noticing lately that the web sites I regularly visit haven't
>>>>> been
>>>>> refreshing as they should. As a matter of fact, today, I've been
>>>>> uploading
>>>>> new pages to my web site yet when I try to view the results in IE7 to
>>>>> verify
>>>>> the changes 'took', I see the old version of the page. I've tried
>>>>> refreshing the page (F5), clearing the temp files, closing down and
>>>>> restarting IE - basically, everything I can think of. I have tried
>>>>> setting my IE settings to "Every time I visit the web page", I've
>>>>> tried
>>>>> "Evertime I start Internet Explorer", I have tried increasing the disk
>>>>> space for IE temp files. I don't know what else to do - it's getting
>>>>> very
>>>>> frustrating. I should note that I can go to my other PC in the house
>>>>> which
>>>>> has IE 6 and the new pages I uploaded appear with the new changes,
>>>>> everytime I make the changes and without any delay.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks in advance to anyone whom can assist with this frustration.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom


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