Norton Internet Security 2007

John, have you tried NIS2008 yet? Any comment?

I got given a copy and am still debating if I should install it.


"John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit@mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote in message
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> As a Journalist I am regularly sent copies of Norton products. I am
> not biased neither have I had a bad experience. Norton is simply a
> system hogger and I will repeat what I said in my original post
> 'Norton causes more problems than it solves.' With Windows 95/98/ME
> Norton products were great. Since XP they have, sadly, gone down hill.
>
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> "David" <david@invalid.com> wrote in message
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>> John Barnett MVP wrote:
>>> My advice to anyone running any Norton product is to remove it.
>>> Norton causes more problems than it solves; I won't have it anywhere
>>> near my PC.
>>>
>> total BS. You are biased, for whatever reason, perhaps a bad
>> experience with a norton product. NIS2007 works fine.
>

Honestly, the 2008 is a nice improvement over 2007, which was way ahead of
the 2005-2006 lowpoint. The install is much quicker and the program just
seems more responsive. I'm still not thrilled with Norton Protection Center
and the loss of some customization options from the 2003-2004 period, but
overall, I think Symantec is back on the right track.


--
"Hurricane" Andrew
Milford, DE


"Mesquire" <noemail@mesquire.com> wrote in message
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> John, have you tried NIS2008 yet? Any comment?
>
> I got given a copy and am still debating if I should install it.
>
>
> "John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit@mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote in message
> news:Ouu73$J%23HHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> As a Journalist I am regularly sent copies of Norton products. I am not
>> biased neither have I had a bad experience. Norton is simply a system
>> hogger and I will repeat what I said in my original post 'Norton causes
>> more problems than it solves.' With Windows 95/98/ME Norton products were
>> great. Since XP they have, sadly, gone down hill.
>>
>> --
>> John Barnett MVP
>> Associate Expert
>> Windows - Shell/User
>>
>> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
>> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
>>
>> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any
>> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
>> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable
>> for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out
>> of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in
>> this mail/post..
>>
>> "David" <david@invalid.com> wrote in message
>> news:6oidndl_gtVzqXHbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>> John Barnett MVP wrote:
>>>> My advice to anyone running any Norton product is to remove it. Norton
>>>> causes more problems than it solves; I won't have it anywhere near my
>>>> PC.
>>>>
>>> total BS. You are biased, for whatever reason, perhaps a bad experience
>>> with a norton product. NIS2007 works fine.
>>
>

This time last year I was most definitely a Norton Basher. My Dell had came
with NIS '04 which was hoggish and buggy. It made the P4 3.0GHz slower than
the P3 800MHz it replaced. I vowed then that a Norton product would never
be on any machine of mine ever again.

Earlier this year I got Vista and at the time the suite I was using with XP
(F-Secure) was not Vista compatible. After reading some high praises of NIS
'07 in a security forum, I decided to set my prejudice aside and try it out.
Man was I surprised! This is NOT the same Norton of old, '07 was lightyears
ahead of '04. It had the same system impact as KIS '07. I was so impressed
with it that I bought it 3 days into the trial. When '08 came out, I
updated and once again was surprised that it runs even lighter than '07. I
will definitely be renewing in March. As of last March my system has been
clean even after purposely surfing in the internet's "darkside". It has
been verified by various online scanners and a couple of AV's I had
installed waiting for NIS '08 to come out. My poor SuperAntiSpyware has had
nothing to do except clean a few cookies, lol.

Symantec has learned it's lesson (though it took a while) as stated in this
weblog (this is the first time I ever seen Symantec admit this):

http://www.symantec.com/norton/blog/...tom _powledge

Also NIS '07 earned an Advanced+ at AV Comparitives with 98.8% detection
(Eset was 97.6% and KAV was 98.46%.

http://www.av-comparatives.org/seiten/comparatives.html

If you are still calling Norton bloatware now, you are behind the times.
The Bloat Era is over.

Midway wrote:
> This time last year I was most definitely a Norton Basher. My Dell
> had came with NIS '04 which was hoggish and buggy. It made the P4
> 3.0GHz slower than the P3 800MHz it replaced. I vowed then that a
> Norton product would never be on any machine of mine ever again.
>
> Earlier this year I got Vista and at the time the suite I was using
> with XP (F-Secure) was not Vista compatible. After reading some high
> praises of NIS '07 in a security forum, I decided to set my prejudice
> aside and try it out. Man was I surprised! This is NOT the same
> Norton of old, '07 was lightyears ahead of '04. It had the same
> system impact as KIS '07. I was so impressed with it that I bought it
> 3 days into the trial. When '08 came out, I updated and once again
> was surprised that it runs even lighter than '07. I will definitely
> be renewing in March. As of last March my system has been clean even
> after purposely surfing in the internet's "darkside". It has been
> verified by various online scanners and a couple of AV's I had
> installed waiting for NIS '08 to come out. My poor SuperAntiSpyware
> has had nothing to do except clean a few cookies, lol.
>
> Symantec has learned it's lesson (though it took a while) as stated in
> this weblog (this is the first time I ever seen Symantec admit this):
>
> http://www.symantec.com/norton/blog/...tom _powledge
>
>
> Also NIS '07 earned an Advanced+ at AV Comparitives with 98.8%
> detection (Eset was 97.6% and KAV was 98.46%.
>
> http://www.av-comparatives.org/seiten/comparatives.html
>
> If you are still calling Norton bloatware now, you are behind the
> times. The Bloat Era is over.
>
>
i find NIS2007 works fine on Vista, despite all the clueless naysayers
here. they tried a norton product ages ago and can't get over the
fact that the newer versions are fine.

It is going to take more than a version or two to get me back.
For years Norton blew whatever reputation they had.
In the meantime I found cheaper and better.
There is no point in switching back since there are alternatives and
Norton has ruined their reputation.

I will continue to recommend other alternatives (most have proved
better over time).
Even if true a one year record is meaningless when counted against
their long history of damaging computer performance.

Perhaps in 5 or so years if they continually prove themselves.
Until then it is a one issue fluke and they still have to prove their
reliability in the long term.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"Midway" <midway@home.net> wrote in message
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> This time last year I was most definitely a Norton Basher. My Dell
> had came with NIS '04 which was hoggish and buggy. It made the P4
> 3.0GHz slower than the P3 800MHz it replaced. I vowed then that a
> Norton product would never be on any machine of mine ever again.
>
> Earlier this year I got Vista and at the time the suite I was using
> with XP (F-Secure) was not Vista compatible. After reading some
> high praises of NIS '07 in a security forum, I decided to set my
> prejudice aside and try it out. Man was I surprised! This is NOT
> the same Norton of old, '07 was lightyears ahead of '04. It had the
> same system impact as KIS '07. I was so impressed with it that I
> bought it 3 days into the trial. When '08 came out, I updated and
> once again was surprised that it runs even lighter than '07. I will
> definitely be renewing in March. As of last March my system has
> been clean even after purposely surfing in the internet's
> "darkside". It has been verified by various online scanners and a
> couple of AV's I had installed waiting for NIS '08 to come out. My
> poor SuperAntiSpyware has had nothing to do except clean a few
> cookies, lol.
>
> Symantec has learned it's lesson (though it took a while) as stated
> in this weblog (this is the first time I ever seen Symantec admit
> this):
>
> http://www.symantec.com/norton/blog/...tom _powledge
>
> Also NIS '07 earned an Advanced+ at AV Comparitives with 98.8%
> detection (Eset was 97.6% and KAV was 98.46%.
>
> http://www.av-comparatives.org/seiten/comparatives.html
>
> If you are still calling Norton bloatware now, you are behind the
> times. The Bloat Era is over.
>
>

Norton blew their own reputation and carefully did so for many years.
I removed the last Norton product off one of my computers about two
years ago and have not looked back.

There are proven equal or better at less prices and less drain on
computer resources.

"the newer versions are fine"
Perhaps it is a fluke.
Norton will have to prove that for several years before they can even
be considered.
Norton has proved for years to be excessively bloated and it will take
years for them to prove acceptable for my computers or any I have
influence.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"David" <david@invalid.com> wrote in message
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> i find NIS2007 works fine on Vista, despite all the clueless
> naysayers here. they tried a norton product ages ago and can't
> get over the fact that the newer versions are fine.

While I cannot fault you on your rationale, I believe Symantec has learned
it's lesson (this is the first time I have ever seen Symantec admitting the
bloatness of it's past products):

http://www.symantec.com/norton/blog/...tom _powledge

They should have done this long ago. I used to be a Norton hater as well,
having a bad experience with NIS '04 but I decided to approach NIS '07 with
an open mind since I was actually reading some good things about it. I was
so taken back, I just could not condemn it from the experience I had. It
was 300% better than '04 was and I was so impressed with it I bought a
subscription 3 days into the trial. And '08 is even better.

If you told me one year ago that one day I would be singing the praises of
Norton, I would have told you that you were out of your blanking mind. At
least I rose above my own self-convictions and actually tried the new
products unlike others here.

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in message
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> Norton blew their own reputation and carefully did so for many years.
> I removed the last Norton product off one of my computers about two years
> ago and have not looked back.
>
> There are proven equal or better at less prices and less drain on computer
> resources.
>
> "the newer versions are fine"
> Perhaps it is a fluke.
> Norton will have to prove that for several years before they can even be
> considered.
> Norton has proved for years to be excessively bloated and it will take
> years for them to prove acceptable for my computers or any I have
> influence.
>
> --
> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
> http://www.dts-l.org
>
>
> "David" <david@invalid.com> wrote in message
> news:x8qdneoTT-MaxovanZ2dnUVZ_g2dnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> i find NIS2007 works fine on Vista, despite all the clueless naysayers
>> here. they tried a norton product ages ago and can't get over the
>> fact that the newer versions are fine.
>

I may again "be singing the praises", however that will take at least
a few years for them to earn that trust they so willingly threw out.
In the meantime, I am established with other products.

For Norton...To Little, To Late, at least for a few years.
They worked hard to earn this suspicion.

I doubt you, or anyone for that matter can give sufficient reason to
change back when what I use now is efficient.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"midway" <midway@home.net> wrote in message
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> While I cannot fault you on your rationale, I believe Symantec has
> learned it's lesson (this is the first time I have ever seen
> Symantec admitting the bloatness of it's past products):
>
> http://www.symantec.com/norton/blog/...tom _powledge
>
> They should have done this long ago. I used to be a Norton hater as
> well, having a bad experience with NIS '04 but I decided to approach
> NIS '07 with an open mind since I was actually reading some good
> things about it. I was so taken back, I just could not condemn it
> from the experience I had. It was 300% better than '04 was and I
> was so impressed with it I bought a subscription 3 days into the
> trial. And '08 is even better.
>
> If you told me one year ago that one day I would be singing the
> praises of Norton, I would have told you that you were out of your
> blanking mind. At least I rose above my own self-convictions and
> actually tried the new products unlike others here.

Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:
> Norton blew their own reputation and carefully did so for many years.
> I removed the last Norton product off one of my computers about two
> years ago and have not looked back.
>
> There are proven equal or better at less prices and less drain on
> computer resources.
>
> "the newer versions are fine"
> Perhaps it is a fluke.
> Norton will have to prove that for several years before they can even
> be considered.
> Norton has proved for years to be excessively bloated and it will take
> years for them to prove acceptable for my computers or any I have
> influence.
>
stop living in the past. Your complaints are norton are so out of touch
with reality.

> Your complaints are norton are so out of touch with reality.
oops. replace "are " with "about".