Access Denied to Documents and settings

what?

Kerry Brown wrote:
>
> The user profiles are stored in C:\Users. C:\Documents and Settings is not a

Hi,

I am trying to access the Documents and settings folder in C:\ but i get an
access denied message.

I have turned off the Account Control in the User Accounts in the control
panel but i still get that message.How do i turn that access restriction
OFF?

thanks

The user profiles are stored in C:\Users. C:\Documents and Settings is not a
true folder but a junction pointing to C:\Users for program compatibility.

As an aside you missing out on the enhanced security by turning off uac. You
can do everything you could do with XP while uac is turned on. You just have
to do it a little differently.

--
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca


"vista user" <vista_basic@msmsms.comm> wrote in message
news:F03AE89A-9014-4F7A-9C43-84DCC97B7C1E@microsoft.com...
> Hi,
>
> I am trying to access the Documents and settings folder in C:\ but i get
> an access denied message.
>
> I have turned off the Account Control in the User Accounts in the control
> panel but i still get that message.How do i turn that access restriction
> OFF?
>
> thanks

Documents and Settings is now just a link to C:\Users. It doesn't really
"exist". Use C:\Users\Username and you shouldn't get the access denied
message. It was just there for program compatibility.

Dustin Harper
dharper@vistarip.com
http://www.vistarip.com



hotjennybuende@mysc.de wrote:
> what?
>
> Kerry Brown wrote:
>> The user profiles are stored in C:\Users. C:\Documents and Settings is not a

See, this is one of those fubar things Microsoft did and as a developer I
simply have to call them on it. First of all, I applaud the move to \Users
for the user related documents. This makes Vista look much more like many
versions of Unix (including OS X) and it is a step in the right direction.

The thing I have problems with is how MS has never really grasped the
concept of file links. Oh sure, you can have shortcuts, but these are only a
bit like a full scaled link in the File system. The new 'Documents and
Settings' fiasco is a major case in point. Why was this not implemented as a
file system link? If users (who have been trained for years now that
"Documents and Settings" is where their personal files are stored) click on
this thing, they get a rude message that says they are stupid. The thing that
Microsoft should do is simply open the Users folder whenever "Documents and
Settings" is clicked. The fact that they didn't implement it this way is
clear evidence that they didn't do much testing of the User Experience, and
they don't really understand what a file system link is for.


"Kerry Brown" wrote:

> The user profiles are stored in C:\Users. C:\Documents and Settings is not a
> true folder but a junction pointing to C:\Users for program compatibility.
>
> As an aside you missing out on the enhanced security by turning off uac. You
> can do everything you could do with XP while uac is turned on. You just have
> to do it a little differently.

I agree!
I wish there was a way to not show thoose links too.

"unvista" wrote:

> See, this is one of those fubar things Microsoft did and as a developer I
> simply have to call them on it. First of all, I applaud the move to \Users
> for the user related documents. This makes Vista look much more like many
> versions of Unix (including OS X) and it is a step in the right direction.
>
> The thing I have problems with is how MS has never really grasped the
> concept of file links. Oh sure, you can have shortcuts, but these are only a
> bit like a full scaled link in the File system. The new 'Documents and
> Settings' fiasco is a major case in point. Why was this not implemented as a
> file system link? If users (who have been trained for years now that
> "Documents and Settings" is where their personal files are stored) click on
> this thing, they get a rude message that says they are stupid. The thing that
> Microsoft should do is simply open the Users folder whenever "Documents and
> Settings" is clicked. The fact that they didn't implement it this way is
> clear evidence that they didn't do much testing of the User Experience, and
> they don't really understand what a file system link is for.
>
>
> "Kerry Brown" wrote:
>
> > The user profiles are stored in C:\Users. C:\Documents and Settings is not a
> > true folder but a junction pointing to C:\Users for program compatibility.
> >
> > As an aside you missing out on the enhanced security by turning off uac. You
> > can do everything you could do with XP while uac is turned on. You just have
> > to do it a little differently.
>
>

There is a way. Don't tell the operating system to "show protected operating
system files". It really is your fault that you are seeing that because you
went out of your way to tell it to show those files. If it is there, I want
to see it if I choose to do so, as implemented.

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"Michael" <Michael@discussions.microsoft.com> a écrit dans le message de
news:FA223C02-892B-44AB-B565-F601AD1B987C@microsoft.com...
>I agree!
> I wish there was a way to not show thoose links too.
>
> "unvista" wrote:
>
>> See, this is one of those fubar things Microsoft did and as a developer I
>> simply have to call them on it. First of all, I applaud the move to
>> \Users
>> for the user related documents. This makes Vista look much more like many
>> versions of Unix (including OS X) and it is a step in the right
>> direction.
>>
>> The thing I have problems with is how MS has never really grasped the
>> concept of file links. Oh sure, you can have shortcuts, but these are
>> only a
>> bit like a full scaled link in the File system. The new 'Documents and
>> Settings' fiasco is a major case in point. Why was this not implemented
>> as a
>> file system link? If users (who have been trained for years now that
>> "Documents and Settings" is where their personal files are stored) click
>> on
>> this thing, they get a rude message that says they are stupid. The thing
>> that
>> Microsoft should do is simply open the Users folder whenever "Documents
>> and
>> Settings" is clicked. The fact that they didn't implement it this way is
>> clear evidence that they didn't do much testing of the User Experience,
>> and
>> they don't really understand what a file system link is for.
>>
>>
>> "Kerry Brown" wrote:
>>
>> > The user profiles are stored in C:\Users. C:\Documents and Settings is
>> > not a
>> > true folder but a junction pointing to C:\Users for program
>> > compatibility.
>> >
>> > As an aside you missing out on the enhanced security by turning off
>> > uac. You
>> > can do everything you could do with XP while uac is turned on. You just
>> > have
>> > to do it a little differently.
>>
>>

Documents and Settings is a link, not a shortcut.

The reason access is denied when attempting to do a folder list on it is to
prevent applications from misbehaving, not for any technical reasons.

Some Windows apps simply could not handle seeing the exact same files in two
different folders, let alone infinite recursion.

However, I do agree with you that Windows Explorer should handle these
correctly by moving to the new location. It was a very BAD idea to have them
throw access denied. Even though that is technically the correct behavior.


--
- JB
Microsoft MVP - Windows Shell/User

Windows Vista Support Faq
http://www.jimmah.com/vista/

I am having similar "Access Denied" problems - and have not seen a proper
solution.

I have done a clean install of Vista on a brand new HD, then connected my
old (XP) C drive via USB port to copy my old data files. Initially Vista
complains that I do not own the files on the old drive so I cannot browse the
folders. I solve that by taking ownership of the old drive and subfolders.
BUT... then, if I try to Copy and Paste folders from my old C drive onto my
new Vista C drive I get the "Destination folder access denied" problem. Yet
I can create folders and files in my "Documents" folder on the new Vista
drive without problems.

Please help!

Where are you trying to copy the files to? Post the full path, thanks.

--
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca


"bhdweb" <bhdweb@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>I am having similar "Access Denied" problems - and have not seen a proper
> solution.
>
> I have done a clean install of Vista on a brand new HD, then connected my
> old (XP) C drive via USB port to copy my old data files. Initially Vista
> complains that I do not own the files on the old drive so I cannot browse
> the
> folders. I solve that by taking ownership of the old drive and
> subfolders.
> BUT... then, if I try to Copy and Paste folders from my old C drive onto
> my
> new Vista C drive I get the "Destination folder access denied" problem.
> Yet
> I can create folders and files in my "Documents" folder on the new Vista
> drive without problems.
>
> Please help!