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Old 10-12-2009
aryno86
 

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upgrading to 8gigs

Hello, i have a quick question just to clarify something.

I apologize in advance for any confusion over terms.

When i bought my system it came with 4 gigs and Vista Home Premium x64.
I had many compatibility issues with games and programs so i then put
Ultimate 32bit on it. Now i would like to put another 4gigs of ram on my
system and just wanted to make sure that it would accept more. I plan on
putting windows 7 x64 on it shortly. It has enough slots for 8gigs of
ram and was originally a 64bit system. It appears okay to me but i would
like some assurance .

Thanks, Andrew


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Old 10-12-2009
amlandreau
 

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Re: upgrading to 8gigs
Hi Andrew,

The maximum "address space" for Vista is 4 giga that includes all memory
physically installed (drivers, graphic card, etc..) .
Going to 8 giga will not help.

André




"aryno86" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
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>
> Hello, i have a quick question just to clarify something.
>
> I apologize in advance for any confusion over terms.
>
> When i bought my system it came with 4 gigs and Vista Home Premium x64.
> I had many compatibility issues with games and programs so i then put
> Ultimate 32bit on it. Now i would like to put another 4gigs of ram on my
> system and just wanted to make sure that it would accept more. I plan on
> putting windows 7 x64 on it shortly. It has enough slots for 8gigs of
> ram and was originally a 64bit system. It appears okay to me but i would
> like some assurance .
>
> Thanks, Andrew
>
>
> --
> aryno86


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Old 10-12-2009
Gordon
 

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Re: upgrading to 8gigs

"amlandreau" <amlandreau@orange.fr> wrote in message
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> Hi Andrew,
>
> The maximum "address space" for Vista is 4 giga that includes all memory
> physically installed (drivers, graphic card, etc..) .
> Going to 8 giga will not help.
>


Incorrect. That's for 32 bit versions. The OP stated that he had 6 bit. 64
bit will use much more than 4GB RAM...

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Old 10-12-2009
Rick Rogers
 

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Re: upgrading to 8gigs
Hi,

What is the manufacturer/make of the motherboard? Capacity is dictated by
the manufacturer, and can vary widely.

You can check for yourself at the maker's web site or by entering your model
into crucial.com's memory tool.

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Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
"aryno86" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
news:b03868fbd3b9956f04c07d86b9a0c667@nntp-gateway.com...
>
> Hello, i have a quick question just to clarify something.
>
> I apologize in advance for any confusion over terms.
>
> When i bought my system it came with 4 gigs and Vista Home Premium x64.
> I had many compatibility issues with games and programs so i then put
> Ultimate 32bit on it. Now i would like to put another 4gigs of ram on my
> system and just wanted to make sure that it would accept more. I plan on
> putting windows 7 x64 on it shortly. It has enough slots for 8gigs of
> ram and was originally a 64bit system. It appears okay to me but i would
> like some assurance .
>
> Thanks, Andrew
>
>
> --
> aryno86


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Old 10-12-2009
Rick Rogers
 

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Re: upgrading to 8gigs
He is going to install the x64 version of Win7 which will easily accomodate
8GB of ram. The limitation is in the 32-bit (x86) version.

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Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
"amlandreau" <amlandreau@orange.fr> wrote in message
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> Hi Andrew,
>
> The maximum "address space" for Vista is 4 giga that includes all memory
> physically installed (drivers, graphic card, etc..) .
> Going to 8 giga will not help.
>
> André
>
>
>
>
> "aryno86" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
> news:b03868fbd3b9956f04c07d86b9a0c667@nntp-gateway.com...
>>
>> Hello, i have a quick question just to clarify something.
>>
>> I apologize in advance for any confusion over terms.
>>
>> When i bought my system it came with 4 gigs and Vista Home Premium x64.
>> I had many compatibility issues with games and programs so i then put
>> Ultimate 32bit on it. Now i would like to put another 4gigs of ram on my
>> system and just wanted to make sure that it would accept more. I plan on
>> putting windows 7 x64 on it shortly. It has enough slots for 8gigs of
>> ram and was originally a 64bit system. It appears okay to me but i would
>> like some assurance .
>>
>> Thanks, Andrew
>>
>>
>> --
>> aryno86

>


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Old 10-12-2009
Ken Blake, MVP
 

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Re: upgrading to 8gigs
On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 12:38:22 +0200, "amlandreau"
<amlandreau@orange.fr> wrote:

> Hi Andrew,
>
> The maximum "address space" for Vista is 4 giga that includes all memory
> physically installed (drivers, graphic card, etc..) .
> Going to 8 giga will not help.




That is not correct. The 4GB limitation (and you can't actually use
the entire 4GB anyway) is for *32-bit* client versions of Windows.
Since he will run the 64-bit version, there is no such limitation.

Whether the applications that he runs can make effective use of 8GB is
another question entirely, and it's possible that he will see no
improvement by having 8GB instead of 4.



> "aryno86" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
> news:b03868fbd3b9956f04c07d86b9a0c667@nntp-gateway.com...
> >
> > Hello, i have a quick question just to clarify something.
> >
> > I apologize in advance for any confusion over terms.
> >
> > When i bought my system it came with 4 gigs and Vista Home Premium x64.
> > I had many compatibility issues with games and programs so i then put
> > Ultimate 32bit on it. Now i would like to put another 4gigs of ram on my
> > system and just wanted to make sure that it would accept more. I plan on
> > putting windows 7 x64 on it shortly. It has enough slots for 8gigs of
> > ram and was originally a 64bit system. It appears okay to me but i would
> > like some assurance .
> >
> > Thanks, Andrew
> >
> >
> > --
> > aryno86


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Old 10-12-2009
Victek
 

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Re: upgrading to 8gigs
> Hello, i have a quick question just to clarify something.
>
> I apologize in advance for any confusion over terms.
>
> When i bought my system it came with 4 gigs and Vista Home Premium x64.
> I had many compatibility issues with games and programs so i then put
> Ultimate 32bit on it. Now i would like to put another 4gigs of ram on my
> system and just wanted to make sure that it would accept more. I plan on
> putting windows 7 x64 on it shortly. It has enough slots for 8gigs of
> ram and was originally a 64bit system. It appears okay to me but i would
> like some assurance .
>
> Thanks, Andrew
>

Make sure the new ram spec matches the ram that's already in the system,
e.g. PC3200, PC8500, etc. It's also a good idea to check the motherboard
spec to see what the maximum supported amount is.

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Old 10-12-2009
SC Tom
 

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Re: upgrading to 8gigs

"Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:OfTRBqySKHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
> "amlandreau" <amlandreau@orange.fr> wrote in message
> news822536A-5F00-457B-819D-97AC6C89CCFD@microsoft.com...
>> Hi Andrew,
>>
>> The maximum "address space" for Vista is 4 giga that includes all memory
>> physically installed (drivers, graphic card, etc..) .
>> Going to 8 giga will not help.
>>

>
> Incorrect. That's for 32 bit versions. The OP stated that he had 6 bit. 64
> bit will use much more than 4GB RAM...

No, he said he HAD Vista Home Premium 64-bit, then installed and now has
Vista Home Ultimate 32-bit, and will be installing Windows 7 64-bit soon.

The 8GB won't do the 32-bit system any good, but may help out when W7 64-bit
is installed.

SC Tom

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Old 10-13-2009
kanehi
 

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Re: upgrading to 8gigs

You're assured.. 8gb RAM will work with Win7 x64. Sorry it didn't work
out with Vista x64 for ya. One bit of advice though is not to hang on
to 'old' programs on a new OS as it might become incompatible.


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Old 10-14-2009
Ian D
 

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Re: upgrading to 8gigs

"Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
news:64f6d5l6qvccilfh4tce86qnqlebp9t5mn@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 12:38:22 +0200, "amlandreau"
> <amlandreau@orange.fr> wrote:
>
>> Hi Andrew,
>>
>> The maximum "address space" for Vista is 4 giga that includes all memory
>> physically installed (drivers, graphic card, etc..) .
>> Going to 8 giga will not help.

>
>
>
> That is not correct. The 4GB limitation (and you can't actually use
> the entire 4GB anyway) is for *32-bit* client versions of Windows.
> Since he will run the 64-bit version, there is no such limitation.
>
> Whether the applications that he runs can make effective use of 8GB is
> another question entirely, and it's possible that he will see no
> improvement by having 8GB instead of 4.
>
>
>

That's right. Unless he's running Photoshop CS4 in 64 bit
mode with multiple large bitmaps open simultaneously, or
another similar application, 8GB won't be used. It's a waste
with 32 bit apps as most can't address more than 2GB of
memory, and most that are large address aware are limited
to 3GB. When 64 bit apps become the norm, this will
change, but all our present systems will probably be
obsolete by then.


>> "aryno86" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
>> news:b03868fbd3b9956f04c07d86b9a0c667@nntp-gateway.com...
>> >
>> > Hello, i have a quick question just to clarify something.
>> >
>> > I apologize in advance for any confusion over terms.
>> >
>> > When i bought my system it came with 4 gigs and Vista Home Premium x64.
>> > I had many compatibility issues with games and programs so i then put
>> > Ultimate 32bit on it. Now i would like to put another 4gigs of ram on
>> > my
>> > system and just wanted to make sure that it would accept more. I plan
>> > on
>> > putting windows 7 x64 on it shortly. It has enough slots for 8gigs of
>> > ram and was originally a 64bit system. It appears okay to me but i
>> > would
>> > like some assurance .
>> >
>> > Thanks, Andrew
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > aryno86

>
> --
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
> Please Reply to the Newsgroup



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