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HIgh RAM-----slow PC
Hi I looked for posts dealing with RAM and had trouble finding, I thought everybody had problems with slow PCs.........

Now i need some advice please I have a Vista that is 1 1/2 years old and it had become really slow. RAM is high even when all applications are off and Firefox can use up to 1GB of memory and I have 2G/, I used software like RAMboost and did the long OnceCare scan with MCS, defragmented drives, increased the memory that can be used as RAM on the hard drive. etc.....many things recommended. still same nothing is changed after a short while.....

Is reformatting and bringing back to how it was when I bought my only hope?
And should Firefox take a bloody 1 GB of RAM alone? I checked the processes in task manager and it seems I need all of them somehow..........and if that was the case if I reformat then wouldn't the same thing happen again?

thanks

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Old 10-04-2009
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Re: HIgh RAM-----slow PC
On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 19:25:37 +0100, asta-la-Vista
<asta-la-Vista.3zjog2@no-mx.forums.vistaheads.com> wrote:

>
> Hi I looked for posts dealing with RAM and had trouble finding, I
> thought everybody had problems with slow PCs.........
>
> Now i need some advice please I have a Vista that is 1 1/2 years old
> and it had become really slow. RAM is high even when all applications
> are off and Firefox can use up to 1GB of memory and I have 2G/, I used
> software like RAMboost



Software like that is junk that is far more likely to worsen the
problem than to solve it.



> and did the long OnceCare scan with MCS,
> defragmented drives, increased the memory that can be used as RAM on the
> hard drive.



Page File? Doing that was unnecessary.


> etc.....many things recommended. still same nothing is
> changed after a short while.....
>
> Is reformatting and bringing back to how it was when I bought my only
> hope?



The two most likely things that would degrade your performance are
what malware infection, and what background programs start up
automatically.

Malware infection is most likely. What anti-virus and antispyware
programs do you run? Are they kept up to date?

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Re: HIgh RAM-----slow PC
Hi, antivirus....Avast/ use Spybot/ defender/ update always and scan.... and the One care from mcs site which took like 4 hours......myabe use one or two malware stuff once.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken Blake, MVP View Post
On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 19:25:37 +0100, asta-la-Vista
<asta-la-Vista.3zjog2@no-mx.forums.vistaheads.com> wrote:

>
> Hi I looked for posts dealing with RAM and had trouble finding, I
> thought everybody had problems with slow PCs.........
>
> Now i need some advice please I have a Vista that is 1 1/2 years old
> and it had become really slow. RAM is high even when all applications
> are off and Firefox can use up to 1GB of memory and I have 2G/, I used
> software like RAMboost



Software like that is junk that is far more likely to worsen the
problem than to solve it.



> and did the long OnceCare scan with MCS,
> defragmented drives, increased the memory that can be used as RAM on the
> hard drive.



Page File? Doing that was unnecessary.


> etc.....many things recommended. still same nothing is
> changed after a short while.....
>
> Is reformatting and bringing back to how it was when I bought my only
> hope?



The two most likely things that would degrade your performance are
what malware infection, and what background programs start up
automatically.

Malware infection is most likely. What anti-virus and antispyware
programs do you run? Are they kept up to date?

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
Please Reply to the Newsgroup
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Ken Blake, MVP
 

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Re: HIgh RAM-----slow PC
On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 20:54:52 +0100, asta-la-Vista
<asta-la-Vista.3zjske@no-mx.forums.vistaheads.com> wrote:

>
> Hi, antivirus....Avast/



OK, good choice.


> use Spybot/ defender/ update always and scan....




But relying on those is *not* a good choice. I recommend downloading
and trying the freeware versions of MalwareBytes AntiMalware and
SuperAntiSpyware.


> and the One care from mcs site which took like 4 hours......myabe use
> one or two malware stuff once.
>
>
> Ken Blake, MVP;1574054 Wrote:
> > On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 19:25:37 +0100, asta-la-Vista
> > <asta-la-Vista.3zjog2@no-mx.forums.vistaheads.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Hi I looked for posts dealing with RAM and had trouble finding, I
> > > thought everybody had problems with slow PCs.........
> > >
> > > Now i need some advice please I have a Vista that is 1 1/2 years old
> > > and it had become really slow. RAM is high even when all

> > applications
> > > are off and Firefox can use up to 1GB of memory and I have 2G/, I

> > used
> > > software like RAMboost

> >
> >
> > Software like that is junk that is far more likely to worsen the
> > problem than to solve it.
> >
> >
> >
> > > and did the long OnceCare scan with MCS,
> > > defragmented drives, increased the memory that can be used as RAM on

> > the
> > > hard drive.

> >
> >
> > Page File? Doing that was unnecessary.
> >
> >
> > > etc.....many things recommended. still same nothing is
> > > changed after a short while.....
> > >
> > > Is reformatting and bringing back to how it was when I bought my

> > only
> > > hope?

> >
> >
> > The two most likely things that would degrade your performance are
> > what malware infection, and what background programs start up
> > automatically.
> >
> > Malware infection is most likely. What anti-virus and antispyware
> > programs do you run? Are they kept up to date?
> >
> > --
> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup

>
>
> --
> asta-la-Vista
> Posted via http://www.vistaheads.com


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doc1234
 

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RE: HIgh RAM-----slow PC


"asta-la-Vista" wrote:

>
> Hi I looked for posts dealing with RAM and had trouble finding, I
> thought everybody had problems with slow PCs.........
>
> Now i need some advice please I have a Vista that is 1 1/2 years old
> and it had become really slow. RAM is high even when all applications
> are off and Firefox can use up to 1GB of memory and I have 2G/, I used
> software like RAMboost and did the long OnceCare scan with MCS,
> defragmented drives, increased the memory that can be used as RAM on the
> hard drive. etc.....many things recommended. still same nothing is
> changed after a short while.....
>
> Is reformatting and bringing back to how it was when I bought my only
> hope?
> And should Firefox take a bloody 1 GB of RAM alone? I checked the
> processes in task manager and it seems I need all of them
> somehow..........and if that was the case if I reformat then wouldn't
> the same thing happen again?
>
> thanks
>
>
> --
> asta-la-Vista
> Posted via http://www.vistaheads.com
>
>

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Re: HIgh RAM-----slow PC
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 12:01:01 -0700, doc1234
<doc1234@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>
>
>"asta-la-Vista" wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi I looked for posts dealing with RAM and had trouble finding, I
>> thought everybody had problems with slow PCs.........
>>
>> Now i need some advice please I have a Vista that is 1 1/2 years old
>> and it had become really slow. RAM is high even when all applications
>> are off and Firefox can use up to 1GB of memory and I have 2G/, I used
>> software like RAMboost and did the long OnceCare scan with MCS,
>> defragmented drives, increased the memory that can be used as RAM on the
>> hard drive. etc.....many things recommended. still same nothing is
>> changed after a short while.....
>>
>> Is reformatting and bringing back to how it was when I bought my only
>> hope?
>> And should Firefox take a bloody 1 GB of RAM alone? I checked the
>> processes in task manager and it seems I need all of them
>> somehow..........and if that was the case if I reformat then wouldn't
>> the same thing happen again?
>>
>> thanks
>>
>>
>> --
>> asta-la-Vista
>> Posted via http://www.vistaheads.com
>>
>>

First STOP using RamBoost and other software like it! Vista has its
own way of dealing with memory and your pc is trying to do 2 different
things at once. When you installed FireFox IE was not uninstalled, it
is still there. Try using it and see if the pc is faster, if so leave
FireFox alone and use IE. Remember to upgrade IE to version 8 though!

Second exactly when is the pc slow? Is it slow only on the original
boot up and then fast after that? Is it slow all the time?

Third go back to the defaults on all settings that affect memory and
the harddrive. You are micromanaging from a point of slowness here and
you need to go back and start over. By increasing the amount of
harddrive space that is used as pretend ram, you have slowed down the
pc, how much I can't tell. Too much is definately overkill, too little
is not as bad. Which I am saying what I am saying, go back to the
defaults.

Vista is different than XP and does alot of things differently. You
seem to be tweaking using XP settings not Vista ones.
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Old 10-11-2009
Richard in AZ
 

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"doc1234" <doc1234@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:E701EEA6-1DBC-4647-8909-38CAC7D261DB@microsoft.com...
>
>
> "asta-la-Vista" wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi I looked for posts dealing with RAM and had trouble finding, I
>> thought everybody had problems with slow PCs.........
>>
>> Now i need some advice please I have a Vista that is 1 1/2 years old
>> and it had become really slow. RAM is high even when all applications
>> are off and Firefox can use up to 1GB of memory and I have 2G/, I used
>> software like RAMboost and did the long OnceCare scan with MCS,
>> defragmented drives, increased the memory that can be used as RAM on the
>> hard drive. etc.....many things recommended. still same nothing is
>> changed after a short while.....
>>
>> Is reformatting and bringing back to how it was when I bought my only
>> hope?
>> And should Firefox take a bloody 1 GB of RAM alone? I checked the
>> processes in task manager and it seems I need all of them
>> somehow..........and if that was the case if I reformat then wouldn't
>> the same thing happen again?
>>
>> thanks
>>
>>
>> --
>> asta-la-Vista
>> Posted via http://www.vistaheads.com
>>
>>


In addition to what f/fgeorge said, have you run your disk cleanup tool?
A load of temp files will definitely slow the computer down.

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Re: HIgh RAM-----slow PC
OK guys, thanks for the help. I removed Ramboost and ran all the malware stuff that was recomended. I used a purge software that erased many temp files etc...it helped for a few days but went back to the headacke. It starts fine and a few hours later slows down painfully. I will try IE but I have many addons in fox that I need like Zotero etc.....i do not understand I cannot use fox on my computer while the whole world uses it.
1G of ram for fox I mean is that normal anywhere? I have had situations like this before and formatted the hard drive and things were fine for a good while. I do not see anybody recomending that, is it useless with this Vista mess? I will reset the things i remember I changed but this is not right. I have scanned this pc like there is no tomorrow, stopped many startup files. Is W7 much better than this crap? thanks again..........before I throw this at the wall and rest......
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On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:52:01 +0000, asta-la-Vista
<asta-la-Vista.40oj8e@no-mx.forums.vistaheads.com> wrote:

>
>
>OK guys, thanks for the help. I removed Ramboost and ran all the malware
>stuff that was recomended. I used a purge software that erased many temp
>files etc...it helped for a few days but went back to the headacke. It
>starts fine and a few hours later slows down painfully. I will try IE
>but I have many addons in fox that I need like Zotero etc.....i do not
>understand I cannot use fox on my computer while the whole world uses
>it.
>1G of ram for fox I mean is that normal anywhere? I have had
>situations like this before and formatted the hard drive and things were
>fine for a good while. I do not see anybody recomending that, is it
>useless with this Vista mess? I will reset the things i remember I
>changed but this is not right. I have scanned this pc like there is no
>tomorrow, stopped many startup files. Is W7 much better than this crap?
>thanks again..........before I throw this at the wall and rest......


Are you REALLY trying to run Vista in 1 gb of ram?!!!!!!!!! No wonder
that darn thing is soooo slow, Vista tries to micromanage your memory
and is swapping a ton of stuff to the hard drive! Vista is MUCH better
in 2 gig and LOVES 4 gig, even though it only really sees 3.25 to 3.5
gig of memory.
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I have 2G ram Fox is using 1G alone........is my only solution 4G?


Quote:
Originally Posted by f/fgeorge View Post
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:52:01 +0000, asta-la-Vista
<asta-la-Vista.40oj8e@no-mx.forums.vistaheads.com> wrote:

>
>
>OK guys, thanks for the help. I removed Ramboost and ran all the malware
>stuff that was recomended. I used a purge software that erased many temp
>files etc...it helped for a few days but went back to the headacke. It
>starts fine and a few hours later slows down painfully. I will try IE
>but I have many addons in fox that I need like Zotero etc.....i do not
>understand I cannot use fox on my computer while the whole world uses
>it.
>1G of ram for fox I mean is that normal anywhere? I have had
>situations like this before and formatted the hard drive and things were
>fine for a good while. I do not see anybody recomending that, is it
>useless with this Vista mess? I will reset the things i remember I
>changed but this is not right. I have scanned this pc like there is no
>tomorrow, stopped many startup files. Is W7 much better than this crap?
>thanks again..........before I throw this at the wall and rest......


Are you REALLY trying to run Vista in 1 gb of ram?!!!!!!!!! No wonder
that darn thing is soooo slow, Vista tries to micromanage your memory
and is swapping a ton of stuff to the hard drive! Vista is MUCH better
in 2 gig and LOVES 4 gig, even though it only really sees 3.25 to 3.5
gig of memory.
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