Readyboost Operating as Normal Priority = Bad

To all, and especially those readyboost programmers:

I have been using a 4 gig flash drive to accommodate readyboost. This, I
thought, would speed up my computer. Normally I am correct, but during
startup, my computer is anything but quick. I first noticed the problem
when I couldn't open Outlook within ten minutes of booting my computer, and
it became more apparent when I was trying to open other programs at the same
time. Even the opening of task manager and the performance monitor was
painstakingly slow (think more than a minute).

This last boot (when everything was slow) I looked at the disk activity in
the performance monitor I saw file that I frequently load (but was not using
at the time) being read by the system. That is what readyboost is supposed
to do, load files that you frequently use into the fash or memory cache.
The problem with this was that the process (system) that was accessing the
file was operating under "normal," not "background" priority. I popped out
my readyboost drive only to find the computer speed up dramatically.

This is completely unacceptable. Writing random files to readyboost cache
is *NOT* a priority. The first and foremost priority of the system should
be allowing me to open Outlook and use it.

Do I have any options other than to cease my use of Readyboost ?

Ben

I have seen this also. Until the ready boost cache is fully populated it
will make using the system unbearably slow.

Having the USB drive permanently connected actually "slows" down the
computer. After I put in my password I go away to make a cup of coffee.
Usually by the time I get back everything is ready to go. If I take out the
USB stick the computer is ready to use 2-4 minutes sooner.

I have attributed this to the fact that I am using an older single core CPU
(AMD Athlon XP 3200 Barton). Maybe the problem goes deeper than that.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban MVP
Microsoft Windows Shell/User


"Ben Enfield" <benfield@u.washington.edu> wrote in message
news:F2DE8F1F-F82D-408F-98D1-A4CA4C8F3918@microsoft.com...
> To all, and especially those readyboost programmers:
>
> I have been using a 4 gig flash drive to accommodate readyboost. This, I
> thought, would speed up my computer. Normally I am correct, but during
> startup, my computer is anything but quick. I first noticed the problem
> when I couldn't open Outlook within ten minutes of booting my computer,
> and it became more apparent when I was trying to open other programs at
> the same time. Even the opening of task manager and the performance
> monitor was painstakingly slow (think more than a minute).
>
> This last boot (when everything was slow) I looked at the disk activity in
> the performance monitor I saw file that I frequently load (but was not
> using at the time) being read by the system. That is what readyboost is
> supposed to do, load files that you frequently use into the fash or memory
> cache. The problem with this was that the process (system) that was
> accessing the file was operating under "normal," not "background"
> priority. I popped out my readyboost drive only to find the computer
> speed up dramatically.
>
> This is completely unacceptable. Writing random files to readyboost cache
> is *NOT* a priority. The first and foremost priority of the system should
> be allowing me to open Outlook and use it.
>
> Do I have any options other than to cease my use of Readyboost ?
>
> Ben
>
>

I haven't noticed it with a X2 4400 CPU and 2 GB of RAM and a 4 GB Patriot
flash drive. It starts up fast, and is ready to go.

But, with my P4 3.0 HT (single core), it can get REALLY slow at startup (1
GB RAM, same 4 GB Patriot flash drive).

So, it may be a problem with the PC resources... Of course, the CPU and RAM
difference may make it a lot less noticeable as well. Not really comparing
apples to apples here. Might be too big of a difference in overall system
speed to begin with.

--
Dustin Harper
dharper@vistarip.com
http://www.vistarip.com

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"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23qVm9zvaHHA.4808@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>I have seen this also. Until the ready boost cache is fully populated it
>will make using the system unbearably slow.
>
> Having the USB drive permanently connected actually "slows" down the
> computer. After I put in my password I go away to make a cup of coffee.
> Usually by the time I get back everything is ready to go. If I take out
> the USB stick the computer is ready to use 2-4 minutes sooner.
>
> I have attributed this to the fact that I am using an older single core
> CPU (AMD Athlon XP 3200 Barton). Maybe the problem goes deeper than that.
>
> --
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban MVP
> Microsoft Windows Shell/User
>
>
> "Ben Enfield" <benfield@u.washington.edu> wrote in message
> news:F2DE8F1F-F82D-408F-98D1-A4CA4C8F3918@microsoft.com...
>> To all, and especially those readyboost programmers:
>>
>> I have been using a 4 gig flash drive to accommodate readyboost. This, I
>> thought, would speed up my computer. Normally I am correct, but during
>> startup, my computer is anything but quick. I first noticed the problem
>> when I couldn't open Outlook within ten minutes of booting my computer,
>> and it became more apparent when I was trying to open other programs at
>> the same time. Even the opening of task manager and the performance
>> monitor was painstakingly slow (think more than a minute).
>>
>> This last boot (when everything was slow) I looked at the disk activity
>> in the performance monitor I saw file that I frequently load (but was not
>> using at the time) being read by the system. That is what readyboost is
>> supposed to do, load files that you frequently use into the fash or
>> memory cache. The problem with this was that the process (system) that
>> was accessing the file was operating under "normal," not "background"
>> priority. I popped out my readyboost drive only to find the computer
>> speed up dramatically.
>>
>> This is completely unacceptable. Writing random files to readyboost
>> cache is *NOT* a priority. The first and foremost priority of the system
>> should be allowing me to open Outlook and use it.
>>
>> Do I have any options other than to cease my use of Readyboost ?
>>
>> Ben
>>
>>
>

> That is what readyboost is supposed to do, load files that you frequently
> use into the fash or memory cache.

No, that's not right. You're thinking of SuperFetch, which preloads your
RAM with the files it thinks you're going to need next.

ReadyBoost is solely used to speed up page faults, where memory has to be
swapped out of RAM onto the hard disk. It pages to/from the USB drive.

Having said that, I can't what is causing that performance hit you've got.
Mine seems fine.

Thack

To all,

I also have a single core (Pentium M), but have 2 gigs of ram. A possible
problem I might be having is a 5400 rpm 2.5 in laptop hard disk with a
maximum data transfer rate of 10 megs per second (mps sounds like a good
unit). The unit just isn't up to the task of serving both my uses and
readyboost with data.

I have also noticed the cache being flushed from time to time (I can see it
in the performance and reliability monitor). After the flush only 1 gig of
the 4 gig flash drive is used for readyboost. As one might expect, during
the post flush filling of my cache the computer operates unbearably slow.

Also notable is a general speed improvement when I am on power saver. It
seems that the computer only writes to the flash after it already accessed
the file for another reason.

Ben


"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23qVm9zvaHHA.4808@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>I have seen this also. Until the ready boost cache is fully populated it
>will make using the system unbearably slow.
>
> Having the USB drive permanently connected actually "slows" down the
> computer. After I put in my password I go away to make a cup of coffee.
> Usually by the time I get back everything is ready to go. If I take out
> the USB stick the computer is ready to use 2-4 minutes sooner.
>
> I have attributed this to the fact that I am using an older single core
> CPU (AMD Athlon XP 3200 Barton). Maybe the problem goes deeper than that.
>
> --
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban MVP
> Microsoft Windows Shell/User
>
>
> "Ben Enfield" <benfield@u.washington.edu> wrote in message
> news:F2DE8F1F-F82D-408F-98D1-A4CA4C8F3918@microsoft.com...
>> To all, and especially those readyboost programmers:
>>
>> I have been using a 4 gig flash drive to accommodate readyboost. This, I
>> thought, would speed up my computer. Normally I am correct, but during
>> startup, my computer is anything but quick. I first noticed the problem
>> when I couldn't open Outlook within ten minutes of booting my computer,
>> and it became more apparent when I was trying to open other programs at
>> the same time. Even the opening of task manager and the performance
>> monitor was painstakingly slow (think more than a minute).
>>
>> This last boot (when everything was slow) I looked at the disk activity
>> in the performance monitor I saw file that I frequently load (but was not
>> using at the time) being read by the system. That is what readyboost is
>> supposed to do, load files that you frequently use into the fash or
>> memory cache. The problem with this was that the process (system) that
>> was accessing the file was operating under "normal," not "background"
>> priority. I popped out my readyboost drive only to find the computer
>> speed up dramatically.
>>
>> This is completely unacceptable. Writing random files to readyboost
>> cache is *NOT* a priority. The first and foremost priority of the system
>> should be allowing me to open Outlook and use it.
>>
>> Do I have any options other than to cease my use of Readyboost ?
>>
>> Ben
>>
>>
>

Thack,

Ok, then I am confused. In terms of hard disk access for populating the RAM
and flash, what will be different? Won't they both try to predict hard
drive queries, but the RAM will just be much faster?

Ben

"Steve Thackery" <thack@nowhere.net> wrote in message
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>> That is what readyboost is supposed to do, load files that you frequently
>> use into the fash or memory cache.
>
> No, that's not right. You're thinking of SuperFetch, which preloads your
> RAM with the files it thinks you're going to need next.
>
> ReadyBoost is solely used to speed up page faults, where memory has to be
> swapped out of RAM onto the hard disk. It pages to/from the USB drive.
>
> Having said that, I can't what is causing that performance hit you've got.
> Mine seems fine.
>
> Thack
>