Vista 32 bit and 8gig ram

"d0nd3r" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
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> I just bought me a new PC with 8 gig ram, and using Vista Ultimate 32
> bit.
>
> There is a problem, cause it only shows me 3gig ... is there a way to
> boost this up ?
>
> I have seen on a forum, that someone putted a change on his msconfig,
> but were can i find this trick, step to step.

Like others have said, a 32-bit OS can only address 4GB, by the time other
hardware is taken into account it'll be less than that. Detailed explantion
up here:
http://www.dasmirnov.net/blog/2008/0...ng-more-than-4

If you've got the retail version of Windows Vista Ultimate, one of the discs
in the case will be the 64-bit version. So you could at least install it to
try it out and make sure everything is working for you.

--
Paul Smith,
Yeovil, UK.
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User.
http://www.dasmirnov.net/blog/
http://www.windowsresource.net/

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Hi... I.m a gamer too and using Vista Home Premium x64 with no problem at
all. All games play perfectly.

Even so game like crysis are 64 bits.




"d0nd3r" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
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>
> yeah had seen that
>
> I found something to "boost it a bit, but its really a problem for the
> system.
> It will be unstable, so i know what to do.
>
> Hmm well 64 bit is a problem, cause lots of game are 32 bit.
>
> I love to play games, so ill have to wait till they ganna make game for
> 64 bit.
>
> Greetings d0n
>
>
> --
> d0nd3r

Do they even sell non-64-bit CPUs any more??


"C.B." <notreallyc.b.mullen@windowslive.com> wrote in message
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>

>
> I was wondering when someone would mention that he needed a 64-bit
> processor. I was just about to ask the OP when I came to the last post in
> the thread, which was yours.
>

"Paul Smith" wrote:

> "d0nd3r" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
> news:f8e32dbd1251d3f14b8cae50594337dc@nntp-gateway.com...
>
> > I just bought me a new PC with 8 gig ram, and using Vista Ultimate 32
> > bit.
> >
> > There is a problem, cause it only shows me 3gig ... is there a way to
> > boost this up ?
> >
> > I have seen on a forum, that someone putted a change on his msconfig,
> > but were can i find this trick, step to step.
>
> Like others have said, a 32-bit OS can only address 4GB, by the time other
> hardware is taken into account it'll be less than that. Detailed explantion
> up here:
> http://www.dasmirnov.net/blog/2008/0...ng-more-than-4
>
> If you've got the retail version of Windows Vista Ultimate, one of the discs
> in the case will be the 64-bit version. So you could at least install it to
> try it out and make sure everything is working for you.
>
> --
> Paul Smith,
> Yeovil, UK.
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User.
> http://www.dasmirnov.net/blog/
> http://www.windowsresource.net/
>
> *Remove nospam. to reply by e-mail*
>
>

"FishinGuy" wrote:

>
>
> "Paul Smith" wrote:
>
> > "d0nd3r" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
> > news:f8e32dbd1251d3f14b8cae50594337dc@nntp-gateway.com...
> >
> > > I just bought me a new PC with 8 gig ram, and using Vista Ultimate 32
> > > bit.
> > >
> > > There is a problem, cause it only shows me 3gig ... is there a way to
> > > boost this up ?
> > >
> > > I have seen on a forum, that someone putted a change on his msconfig,
> > > but were can i find this trick, step to step.
> >
> > Like others have said, a 32-bit OS can only address 4GB, by the time other
> > hardware is taken into account it'll be less than that. Detailed explantion
> > up here:
> > http://www.dasmirnov.net/blog/2008/0...ng-more-than-4
> >
> > If you've got the retail version of Windows Vista Ultimate, one of the discs
> > in the case will be the 64-bit version. So you could at least install it to
> > try it out and make sure everything is working for you.
> >
> > --
> > Paul Smith,
> > Yeovil, UK.
> > Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User.
> > http://www.dasmirnov.net/blog/
> > http://www.windowsresource.net/
> >
> > *Remove nospam. to reply by e-mail*
> >
> >

The only "solution" i found is WORKAROUND using usb-sticks whixh support up
to the max u can get on usb stick, that is not really ram but cooperates
with it sort if cache-like(windows ready boost) which helped a lot on my
systemtem as i have a graphic card eating the 2 gig i have installed,
making it possible to usw more than the on-board mem whixh is eaten by my
graphics adaptor.. aint the best but probably the only way to usw more than 3
gig for RAM.. hope iz helpful for u


"FishinGuy" wrote:

>
>
> "Paul Smith" wrote:
>
> > "d0nd3r" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
> > news:f8e32dbd1251d3f14b8cae50594337dc@nntp-gateway.com...
> >
> > > I just bought me a new PC with 8 gig ram, and using Vista Ultimate 32
> > > bit.
> > >
> > > There is a problem, cause it only shows me 3gig ... is there a way to
> > > boost this up ?
> > >
> > > I have seen on a forum, that someone putted a change on his msconfig,
> > > but were can i find this trick, step to step.
> >
> > Like others have said, a 32-bit OS can only address 4GB, by the time other
> > hardware is taken into account it'll be less than that. Detailed explantion
> > up here:
> > http://www.dasmirnov.net/blog/2008/0...ng-more-than-4
> >
> > If you've got the retail version of Windows Vista Ultimate, one of the discs
> > in the case will be the 64-bit version. So you could at least install it to
> > try it out and make sure everything is working for you.
> >
> > --
> > Paul Smith,
> > Yeovil, UK.
> > Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User.
> > http://www.dasmirnov.net/blog/
> > http://www.windowsresource.net/
> >
> > *Remove nospam. to reply by e-mail*
> >
> >

32-bit OS's have a limit of 4gb ram...that's a complete address
limitation...anything more than 4 gigs of ram requires higher addressing
space....4 gigs is the limit.

Phisyical Address Extension doesn't always work..in fact, 9 times out of 10
it yields you nothing.

The fact you're only seeing 3 gigs of ram would indicate there's additional
addressing issues in your computer. My laptop has 2x2048mb modules...but i
only can get 2.96gb of ram to windows because of funky video addressing
issues.

the "speedboost" feature that uses USB sticks as cache is useless with more
than 2gb of physical ram, sure, vista will use it, but however it won't
actually take advantage of it like it will with < 2gb physical ram.

If you want more than the amount of ram you've got now...you *NEED NEED NEED
NEED NEED* to use a 64-bit OS...you ABSOLUTELY CANNOT achieve 8gb of ram
with a 32-bit OS....P-E-R-I-O-D!
"FishinGuy" <FishinGuy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> "Paul Smith" wrote:
>
>> "d0nd3r" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
>> news:f8e32dbd1251d3f14b8cae50594337dc@nntp-gateway.com...
>>
>> > I just bought me a new PC with 8 gig ram, and using Vista Ultimate 32
>> > bit.
>> >
>> > There is a problem, cause it only shows me 3gig ... is there a way to
>> > boost this up ?
>> >
>> > I have seen on a forum, that someone putted a change on his msconfig,
>> > but were can i find this trick, step to step.
>>
>> Like others have said, a 32-bit OS can only address 4GB, by the time
>> other
>> hardware is taken into account it'll be less than that. Detailed
>> explantion
>> up here:
>> http://www.dasmirnov.net/blog/2008/0...ng-more-than-4
>>
>> If you've got the retail version of Windows Vista Ultimate, one of the
>> discs
>> in the case will be the 64-bit version. So you could at least install it
>> to
>> try it out and make sure everything is working for you.
>>
>> --
>> Paul Smith,
>> Yeovil, UK.
>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User.
>> http://www.dasmirnov.net/blog/
>> http://www.windowsresource.net/
>>
>> *Remove nospam. to reply by e-mail*
>>
>>

Hi,

I have an Alienware Area 51 m9750 laptop. I have 2GB of RAM installed on it
and planning to upgrade to 4GB of RAM. My system has a 32bit Vista Home
Premium installed on it and yes I know that the 32bit OS does not recognize
4GB of RAM and so I want to try out 64bit Vista Home Premium.

I heard somewhere that Microsoft is providing free upgrades to 64bit Vista
for all users of 32bit vista. is it true ? if its not, then what are the ways
that i can upgrade my OS to a 64bit version ?

Thank you.

Srikar.

Thank you Ken! You apparently have the right answer! Not even Intel support
knows this and I've been tearing my hair out for a week!

I happen to be running Windows Vista 64-bit and Windows will not boot-up
with 4 gigabytes of RAM either, just like in the 32-bit version!

My motherboard supports 8 gig only in the slower MHZ speeds, but above 800
MHZ, the max is supposed to be 4 gig, but even that cannot be achieved.

Your 3.1 gigabyte RAM figure is right on the money! Perhaps if I bought 512
meg, I could squeeze out another .5 gig in the 4th slot but it just isn't
worth it to me.

The extra gigabyte really worked for me though because I was using 70% of my
resources when I engaged my ATI Tuner Card through Windows Media Center. Now
I'm running at a sweet 46% - 58% with everything engaged at the same time.

I'm saving my extra 1-gig memory stick though. It's good to have around AND
it was on sale!!! LOL.

Thanks for having the correct answer.
--
Intel DG-965WH
Intel Core 2 Duo 6300
1.86 MHz, 3.1 gig RAM
Windows Vista Ultimate 64
NVIDIA 8500 GT (512MB)
iMicro 450W
Samsung 216 BW
7.1 Surround Sound



"C.B." wrote:

>
>
> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
> news:4chg4410vbqcbhllu52g4qelrva571pag0@4ax.com...
> > On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 06:17:31 -0500, d0nd3r <guest@unknown-email.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Hello all,
> >>
> >> I just bought me a new PC with 8 gig ram, and using Vista Ultimate 32
> >> bit.
> >>
> >> There is a problem, cause it only shows me 3gig ... is there a way to
> >> boost this up ?
> >>
> >> I have seen on a forum, that someone putted a change on his msconfig,
> >> but were can i find this trick, step to step.
> >
> >
> > Sorry to say that you wasted your money. All 32-bit client versions of
> > Windows (not just Vista) have a 4GB address space. That's the
> > theoretical upper limit beyond which you can not go.
> >
> > But you can't use the entire 4GB of address space. Even though you
> > have a 4GB address space, you can only use *around* 3.1GB of RAM.
> > That's because some of that space is used by hardware and is not
> > available to the operating system and applications. The amount you can
> > use varies, depending on what hardware you have installed, but can
> > range from as little as 2GB to as much as 3.5GB. It's usually around
> > 3.1GB.
> >
> > Note that the hardware is using the address *space*, not the actual
> > RAM itself. The rest of the RAM goes unused because there is no
> > address space to map it too.
> >
> > By the way, what makes you think that having that much RAM would do
> > anything for you anyway? How much RAM you need for good performance is
> > *not* a one-size-fits-all situation. You get good performance if the
> > amount of RAM you have keeps you from using the page file, and that
> > depends on what apps you run. Most people running a typical range of
> > business applications under Vista find that somewhere around 2GB works
> > well, others need a little more. Some people, particularly those doing
> > things like editing large photographic images, can see a performance
> > boost by adding even more than 2GB, but more than 2-3GB is a waste for
> > most people.
> >
> > If you have a 64-bit processor, and you changed to 64-bit Vista, it
> > would see all your RAM, but my guess is that you would still see no
> > improvement in performance.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
>
> I was wondering when someone would mention that he needed a 64-bit
> processor. I was just about to ask the OP when I came to the last post in
> the thread, which was yours.
>
> C.B.
>
>
> --
> It is the responsibility and duty of everyone to help the underprivileged
> and unfortunate among us.
>

i dont think u can use 8G at the mo, but u could upgrade to 64bit, i think
they do some kind of deal.
"d0nd3r" wrote:

>
> Hello all,
>
> I just bought me a new PC with 8 gig ram, and using Vista Ultimate 32
> bit.
>
> There is a problem, cause it only shows me 3gig ... is there a way to
> boost this up ?
>
> I have seen on a forum, that someone putted a change on his msconfig,
> but were can i find this trick, step to step.
>
> Greetings don.
>
>
> --
> d0nd3r
>