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Old 03-15-2007
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See Disk Defrag like XP version
The disk defrag in vista does not show much. Is there a way to see the
details and at what point it is, or when it will be finished?
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Old 03-15-2007
David A. Lessnau
 

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Re: See Disk Defrag like XP version
Nope. You can read about it until you weep by doing a search for "defrag"
in this forum.




"Dino+" <Dino@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> The disk defrag in vista does not show much. Is there a way to see the
> details and at what point it is, or when it will be finished?


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Old 03-15-2007
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Re: See Disk Defrag like XP version
The graphical interface for defrag was removed because it wasn't deemed
necessary. I don't think many people are willing to spend hours in front of
the screen watching little boxes being shuffled around the screen as they
get put into a contigious order.

If you want to see what goes on with defragmentation then you need to buy a
third party defragmentation application. For preference I would recommed
PerfectDisk (see the following link on my website for a review of
PerfectDisk)http://vistasupport.mvps.org/perfectdisk_8.htm

--
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Associate Expert
Windows - Shell/User

Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
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"Dino+" <Dino@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> The disk defrag in vista does not show much. Is there a way to see the
> details and at what point it is, or when it will be finished?


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Old 03-16-2007
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Re: See Disk Defrag like XP version
Yeah, but I liked the analyse button in XP. I used it on customers computers
to see whether they needed to be defragged or not. And also, the old way with
the % complete was very handy.
Mick

"John Barnett MVP" wrote:

> The graphical interface for defrag was removed because it wasn't deemed
> necessary. I don't think many people are willing to spend hours in front of
> the screen watching little boxes being shuffled around the screen as they
> get put into a contigious order.
>
> If you want to see what goes on with defragmentation then you need to buy a
> third party defragmentation application. For preference I would recommed
> PerfectDisk (see the following link on my website for a review of
> PerfectDisk)http://vistasupport.mvps.org/perfectdisk_8.htm
>
> --
> John Barnett MVP
> Associate Expert
> Windows - Shell/User
>
> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
>
> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any
> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable for
> any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the
> use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this
> mail/post..
>
> "Dino+" <Dino@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:EEDA27B9-00D0-494F-A543-32B9954112F7@microsoft.com...
> > The disk defrag in vista does not show much. Is there a way to see the
> > details and at what point it is, or when it will be finished?

>
>

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Old 03-16-2007
David A. Lessnau
 

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Re: See Disk Defrag like XP version
If you just want an analysis of the drive fragmentation, you can do the
following:
- Find your Command Prompt program (normally Start | All Programs |
Accessories)
- Right-click on it and select Run As Administrator
- Type "defrag -c -a -v" (that should give you a verbose (-v) analysis (-a)
of all volumes (-c).
- For other options, type "defrag /?"




"Mick" <Mick@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3074BF31-6C93-4662-9EC9-EC5D5EFE794E@microsoft.com...
> Yeah, but I liked the analyse button in XP. I used it on customers
> computers
> to see whether they needed to be defragged or not. And also, the old way
> with
> the % complete was very handy.
> Mick
>
> "John Barnett MVP" wrote:
>
>> The graphical interface for defrag was removed because it wasn't deemed
>> necessary. I don't think many people are willing to spend hours in front
>> of
>> the screen watching little boxes being shuffled around the screen as they
>> get put into a contigious order.
>>
>> If you want to see what goes on with defragmentation then you need to buy
>> a
>> third party defragmentation application. For preference I would recommed
>> PerfectDisk (see the following link on my website for a review of
>> PerfectDisk)http://vistasupport.mvps.org/perfectdisk_8.htm
>>
>> --
>> John Barnett MVP
>> Associate Expert
>> Windows - Shell/User
>>
>> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
>> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
>>
>> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any
>> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
>> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable
>> for
>> any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of
>> the
>> use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this
>> mail/post..
>>
>> "Dino+" <Dino@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:EEDA27B9-00D0-494F-A543-32B9954112F7@microsoft.com...
>> > The disk defrag in vista does not show much. Is there a way to see the
>> > details and at what point it is, or when it will be finished?

>>
>>


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Old 03-17-2007
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Re: See Disk Defrag like XP version
I was wondering also, what if you have 2 or 3 hard drives and only want to
defrag the OS and programs C: drive? I have about 300GB of backups and music
on two other large hard drives that I don't think needs to be "automatically"
defraged everytime I just want to defrag the most used OS drive.
I guess I will also look in to a third party defrager if I can't defrag
which ever drive I want to.

Thanks also,

Neil


"David A. Lessnau" wrote:

> If you just want an analysis of the drive fragmentation, you can do the
> following:
> - Find your Command Prompt program (normally Start | All Programs |
> Accessories)
> - Right-click on it and select Run As Administrator
> - Type "defrag -c -a -v" (that should give you a verbose (-v) analysis (-a)
> of all volumes (-c).
> - For other options, type "defrag /?"
>
>
>
>
> "Mick" <Mick@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:3074BF31-6C93-4662-9EC9-EC5D5EFE794E@microsoft.com...
> > Yeah, but I liked the analyse button in XP. I used it on customers
> > computers
> > to see whether they needed to be defragged or not. And also, the old way
> > with
> > the % complete was very handy.
> > Mick
> >
> > "John Barnett MVP" wrote:
> >
> >> The graphical interface for defrag was removed because it wasn't deemed
> >> necessary. I don't think many people are willing to spend hours in front
> >> of
> >> the screen watching little boxes being shuffled around the screen as they
> >> get put into a contigious order.
> >>
> >> If you want to see what goes on with defragmentation then you need to buy
> >> a
> >> third party defragmentation application. For preference I would recommed
> >> PerfectDisk (see the following link on my website for a review of
> >> PerfectDisk)http://vistasupport.mvps.org/perfectdisk_8.htm
> >>
> >> --
> >> John Barnett MVP
> >> Associate Expert
> >> Windows - Shell/User
> >>
> >> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
> >> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
> >>
> >> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any
> >> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
> >> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable
> >> for
> >> any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of
> >> the
> >> use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this
> >> mail/post..
> >>
> >> "Dino+" <Dino@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:EEDA27B9-00D0-494F-A543-32B9954112F7@microsoft.com...
> >> > The disk defrag in vista does not show much. Is there a way to see the
> >> > details and at what point it is, or when it will be finished?
> >>
> >>

>
>

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Old 03-18-2007
David A. Lessnau
 

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Re: See Disk Defrag like XP version
The simplest options to defrag just C: would be just plain "defrag c:" . If
you do that "defrag /?" I mentioned earlier, you'll see all the possible
parameters for the command. To force defrag to defragment even the big
fragments it normally wouldn't touch on that drive and use verbose mode, you
could use "defrag c: -w -v" .




"neil.t." <neilt@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news3A39F62-29B3-4CD5-999C-DE394B0CFC07@microsoft.com...
>I was wondering also, what if you have 2 or 3 hard drives and only want to
> defrag the OS and programs C: drive? I have about 300GB of backups and
> music
> on two other large hard drives that I don't think needs to be
> "automatically"
> defraged everytime I just want to defrag the most used OS drive.
> I guess I will also look in to a third party defrager if I can't defrag
> which ever drive I want to.
>
> Thanks also,
>
> Neil
>
>
> "David A. Lessnau" wrote:
>
>> If you just want an analysis of the drive fragmentation, you can do the
>> following:
>> - Find your Command Prompt program (normally Start | All Programs |
>> Accessories)
>> - Right-click on it and select Run As Administrator
>> - Type "defrag -c -a -v" (that should give you a verbose (-v) analysis
>> (-a)
>> of all volumes (-c).
>> - For other options, type "defrag /?"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Mick" <Mick@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:3074BF31-6C93-4662-9EC9-EC5D5EFE794E@microsoft.com...
>> > Yeah, but I liked the analyse button in XP. I used it on customers
>> > computers
>> > to see whether they needed to be defragged or not. And also, the old
>> > way
>> > with
>> > the % complete was very handy.
>> > Mick
>> >
>> > "John Barnett MVP" wrote:
>> >
>> >> The graphical interface for defrag was removed because it wasn't
>> >> deemed
>> >> necessary. I don't think many people are willing to spend hours in
>> >> front
>> >> of
>> >> the screen watching little boxes being shuffled around the screen as
>> >> they
>> >> get put into a contigious order.
>> >>
>> >> If you want to see what goes on with defragmentation then you need to
>> >> buy
>> >> a
>> >> third party defragmentation application. For preference I would
>> >> recommed
>> >> PerfectDisk (see the following link on my website for a review of
>> >> PerfectDisk)http://vistasupport.mvps.org/perfectdisk_8.htm
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> John Barnett MVP
>> >> Associate Expert
>> >> Windows - Shell/User
>> >>
>> >> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
>> >> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
>> >>
>> >> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of
>> >> any
>> >> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the
>> >> accuracy,
>> >> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be
>> >> liable
>> >> for
>> >> any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out
>> >> of
>> >> the
>> >> use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this
>> >> mail/post..
>> >>
>> >> "Dino+" <Dino@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:EEDA27B9-00D0-494F-A543-32B9954112F7@microsoft.com...
>> >> > The disk defrag in vista does not show much. Is there a way to see
>> >> > the
>> >> > details and at what point it is, or when it will be finished?
>> >>
>> >>

>>
>>


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Old 03-28-2007
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Re: See Disk Defrag like XP version
Instead of paying for a disk defrag, why not use a Free one? I tried the
trial version of perfectdisk and was not impressed with it especially after
seeing the difference that the free version made on my system. The pay
program, perfecdisk, didn't really speed up my system. However, this free
version sped up my system noticeable and you can see what it is doing as
well.

http://www.auslogics.com/disk-defrag/index.php

The free version's link is above.

"David A. Lessnau" wrote:

> The simplest options to defrag just C: would be just plain "defrag c:" . If
> you do that "defrag /?" I mentioned earlier, you'll see all the possible
> parameters for the command. To force defrag to defragment even the big
> fragments it normally wouldn't touch on that drive and use verbose mode, you
> could use "defrag c: -w -v" .
>
>
>
>
> "neil.t." <neilt@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news3A39F62-29B3-4CD5-999C-DE394B0CFC07@microsoft.com...
> >I was wondering also, what if you have 2 or 3 hard drives and only want to
> > defrag the OS and programs C: drive? I have about 300GB of backups and
> > music
> > on two other large hard drives that I don't think needs to be
> > "automatically"
> > defraged everytime I just want to defrag the most used OS drive.
> > I guess I will also look in to a third party defrager if I can't defrag
> > which ever drive I want to.
> >
> > Thanks also,
> >
> > Neil
> >
> >
> > "David A. Lessnau" wrote:
> >
> >> If you just want an analysis of the drive fragmentation, you can do the
> >> following:
> >> - Find your Command Prompt program (normally Start | All Programs |
> >> Accessories)
> >> - Right-click on it and select Run As Administrator
> >> - Type "defrag -c -a -v" (that should give you a verbose (-v) analysis
> >> (-a)
> >> of all volumes (-c).
> >> - For other options, type "defrag /?"
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Mick" <Mick@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:3074BF31-6C93-4662-9EC9-EC5D5EFE794E@microsoft.com...
> >> > Yeah, but I liked the analyse button in XP. I used it on customers
> >> > computers
> >> > to see whether they needed to be defragged or not. And also, the old
> >> > way
> >> > with
> >> > the % complete was very handy.
> >> > Mick
> >> >
> >> > "John Barnett MVP" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> The graphical interface for defrag was removed because it wasn't
> >> >> deemed
> >> >> necessary. I don't think many people are willing to spend hours in
> >> >> front
> >> >> of
> >> >> the screen watching little boxes being shuffled around the screen as
> >> >> they
> >> >> get put into a contigious order.
> >> >>
> >> >> If you want to see what goes on with defragmentation then you need to
> >> >> buy
> >> >> a
> >> >> third party defragmentation application. For preference I would
> >> >> recommed
> >> >> PerfectDisk (see the following link on my website for a review of
> >> >> PerfectDisk)http://vistasupport.mvps.org/perfectdisk_8.htm
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> John Barnett MVP
> >> >> Associate Expert
> >> >> Windows - Shell/User
> >> >>
> >> >> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
> >> >> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
> >> >>
> >> >> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of
> >> >> any
> >> >> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the
> >> >> accuracy,
> >> >> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be
> >> >> liable
> >> >> for
> >> >> any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out
> >> >> of
> >> >> the
> >> >> use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this
> >> >> mail/post..
> >> >>
> >> >> "Dino+" <Dino@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:EEDA27B9-00D0-494F-A543-32B9954112F7@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > The disk defrag in vista does not show much. Is there a way to see
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > details and at what point it is, or when it will be finished?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>

>
>

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Old 03-28-2007
cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user)
 

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Re: See Disk Defrag like XP version
On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 18:43:12 -0700, Rick Kirchoff

>Instead of paying for a disk defrag, why not use a Free one? I tried the
>trial version of perfectdisk and was not impressed with it especially after
>seeing the difference that the free version made on my system. The pay
>program, perfecdisk, didn't really speed up my system. However, this free
>version sped up my system noticeable and you can see what it is doing as
>well.
>
>http://www.auslogics.com/disk-defrag/index.php


>The free version's link is above.


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Old 04-27-2007
smitti
 

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Re: See Disk Defrag like XP version
Perfect Disk trashed my desktop hard drive. Be careful. I've got to
reformat & begin again.



"Rick Kirchoff" wrote:

> Instead of paying for a disk defrag, why not use a Free one? I tried the
> trial version of perfectdisk and was not impressed with it especially after
> seeing the difference that the free version made on my system. The pay
> program, perfecdisk, didn't really speed up my system. However, this free
> version sped up my system noticeable and you can see what it is doing as
> well.
>
> http://www.auslogics.com/disk-defrag/index.php
>
> The free version's link is above.
>
> "David A. Lessnau" wrote:
>
> > The simplest options to defrag just C: would be just plain "defrag c:" . If
> > you do that "defrag /?" I mentioned earlier, you'll see all the possible
> > parameters for the command. To force defrag to defragment even the big
> > fragments it normally wouldn't touch on that drive and use verbose mode, you
> > could use "defrag c: -w -v" .
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "neil.t." <neilt@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news3A39F62-29B3-4CD5-999C-DE394B0CFC07@microsoft.com...
> > >I was wondering also, what if you have 2 or 3 hard drives and only want to
> > > defrag the OS and programs C: drive? I have about 300GB of backups and
> > > music
> > > on two other large hard drives that I don't think needs to be
> > > "automatically"
> > > defraged everytime I just want to defrag the most used OS drive.
> > > I guess I will also look in to a third party defrager if I can't defrag
> > > which ever drive I want to.
> > >
> > > Thanks also,
> > >
> > > Neil
> > >
> > >
> > > "David A. Lessnau" wrote:
> > >
> > >> If you just want an analysis of the drive fragmentation, you can do the
> > >> following:
> > >> - Find your Command Prompt program (normally Start | All Programs |
> > >> Accessories)
> > >> - Right-click on it and select Run As Administrator
> > >> - Type "defrag -c -a -v" (that should give you a verbose (-v) analysis
> > >> (-a)
> > >> of all volumes (-c).
> > >> - For other options, type "defrag /?"
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> "Mick" <Mick@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:3074BF31-6C93-4662-9EC9-EC5D5EFE794E@microsoft.com...
> > >> > Yeah, but I liked the analyse button in XP. I used it on customers
> > >> > computers
> > >> > to see whether they needed to be defragged or not. And also, the old
> > >> > way
> > >> > with
> > >> > the % complete was very handy.
> > >> > Mick
> > >> >
> > >> > "John Barnett MVP" wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> The graphical interface for defrag was removed because it wasn't
> > >> >> deemed
> > >> >> necessary. I don't think many people are willing to spend hours in
> > >> >> front
> > >> >> of
> > >> >> the screen watching little boxes being shuffled around the screen as
> > >> >> they
> > >> >> get put into a contigious order.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> If you want to see what goes on with defragmentation then you need to
> > >> >> buy
> > >> >> a
> > >> >> third party defragmentation application. For preference I would
> > >> >> recommed
> > >> >> PerfectDisk (see the following link on my website for a review of
> > >> >> PerfectDisk)http://vistasupport.mvps.org/perfectdisk_8.htm
> > >> >>
> > >> >> --
> > >> >> John Barnett MVP
> > >> >> Associate Expert
> > >> >> Windows - Shell/User
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
> > >> >> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
> > >> >>
> > >> >> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of
> > >> >> any
> > >> >> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the
> > >> >> accuracy,
> > >> >> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be
> > >> >> liable
> > >> >> for
> > >> >> any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out
> > >> >> of
> > >> >> the
> > >> >> use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this
> > >> >> mail/post..
> > >> >>
> > >> >> "Dino+" <Dino@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > >> >> news:EEDA27B9-00D0-494F-A543-32B9954112F7@microsoft.com...
> > >> >> > The disk defrag in vista does not show much. Is there a way to see
> > >> >> > the
> > >> >> > details and at what point it is, or when it will be finished?
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >>
> > >>

> >
> >

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