Why you have so few restore points - answered!

"alexB" <alexb@comcast.net> wrote in message news:eIIX8mxeIHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> You should be ashamed for your idiotic outburst. You do not need more
> restore points. Besides, you have control over the number of restore points
> you can have. Just add more storage, do more backups and eat your sh*it in
> the privacy of your home. Do not bring your lunacy in here.

Do you intend to always be the biggest imbecile
in this group? So far, you are winning quite handily.

Thankfully, your plethora of posts quickly identified
your amazing lack of helpful tech knowledge and your
many mental deficiencies. Hopefully, most users simply
ignore your prattle.


-Michael

Practice what you preach and don't respond to him.

"MICHAEL" <u158627_7@dslr.net> wrote in message
news:eTeGje6eIHA.3724@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> "alexB" <alexb@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:eIIX8mxeIHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> You should be ashamed for your idiotic outburst. You do not need more
>> restore points. Besides, you have control over the number of restore
>> points you can have. Just add more storage, do more backups and eat your
>> sh*it in the privacy of your home. Do not bring your lunacy in here.
>
> Do you intend to always be the biggest imbecile
> in this group? So far, you are winning quite handily.
>
> Thankfully, your plethora of posts quickly identified
> your amazing lack of helpful tech knowledge and your
> many mental deficiencies. Hopefully, most users simply
> ignore your prattle.
>
>
> -Michael

I wasn't preaching, goober.

But, it is important that every so often,
someone points out his idiocy so that those
who are new to the group might understand
that his drivel is usually rather useless.


-Michael

"Bob" <nowhere@nowhere.net> wrote in message
news:k7SdncmptaL99VTanZ2dnUVZ_qygnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Practice what you preach and don't respond to him.
>
> "MICHAEL" <u158627_7@dslr.net> wrote in message news:eTeGje6eIHA.3724@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> "alexB" <alexb@comcast.net> wrote in message news:eIIX8mxeIHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> You should be ashamed for your idiotic outburst. You do not need more restore points.
>>> Besides, you have control over the number of restore points you can have. Just add more
>>> storage, do more backups and eat your sh*it in the privacy of your home. Do not bring your
>>> lunacy in here.
>>
>> Do you intend to always be the biggest imbecile
>> in this group? So far, you are winning quite handily.
>>
>> Thankfully, your plethora of posts quickly identified
>> your amazing lack of helpful tech knowledge and your
>> many mental deficiencies. Hopefully, most users simply
>> ignore your prattle.
>>
>>
>> -Michael
>

"Julian" <msforums@tiger2.notthisbit.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:uPJG4LxeIHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> It's not a bug - it's a completely idiotic feature of Vista Home Premium
> (and maybe Basic too)
>
> System Restore relies on Shadow Storage - which MS also uses to provide
> "previous version" file capabilities in higher-end Vista systems.
>
> However, Vista is in fact still taking copies of ALL your files - thereby
> eating up space that you might reasonably have thought was solely for
> System Restore points. Result: ShadowStorage fills up very quickly and
> your restore points are dumped.
>
> See
> http://berossus.blogspot.com/2008/02...ng-system.html
> and the links therein for what I eventually found on the web once I knew
> what to look for. It has been known about since last year apparently...
>
> Personally I am outraged at the lack of control over my own system, and
> specifically the completely useless System Restore capability that has
> resulted.
>
> MS should be ashamed. Very, very ashamed.
>
> But thanks to everyone who helped me track down the problem
>
> --
> Julian I-Do-Stuff
>
> Some Vista stuff, but mostly just Stuff at http://berossus,blogspot.com


You would be more outraged if Vista could not recover itself as well as it
can..

--
Mike Hall - MVP
How to construct a good post..
http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
http://support.microsoft.com/default...help&style=toc
Mike's Window - My Blog..
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

Preaching - To advocate, especially to urge acceptance of or compliance
with.
Sounds like preaching to me, Gomer.

"MICHAEL" <u158627_7@dslr.net> wrote in message
news:u0vzFo6eIHA.4684@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>I wasn't preaching, goober.
>
> But, it is important that every so often,
> someone points out his idiocy so that those
> who are new to the group might understand
> that his drivel is usually rather useless.
>
>
> -Michael
>
> "Bob" <nowhere@nowhere.net> wrote in message
> news:k7SdncmptaL99VTanZ2dnUVZ_qygnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> Practice what you preach and don't respond to him.
>>
>> "MICHAEL" <u158627_7@dslr.net> wrote in message
>> news:eTeGje6eIHA.3724@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> "alexB" <alexb@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:eIIX8mxeIHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> You should be ashamed for your idiotic outburst. You do not need more
>>>> restore points. Besides, you have control over the number of restore
>>>> points you can have. Just add more storage, do more backups and eat
>>>> your sh*it in the privacy of your home. Do not bring your lunacy in
>>>> here.
>>>
>>> Do you intend to always be the biggest imbecile
>>> in this group? So far, you are winning quite handily.
>>>
>>> Thankfully, your plethora of posts quickly identified
>>> your amazing lack of helpful tech knowledge and your
>>> many mental deficiencies. Hopefully, most users simply
>>> ignore your prattle.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Michael
>>

I urge you to stimulate your internal anal sphincter
and pull your head out of your rectum.

Thanks, Otis.


-Michael

"Bob" <nowhere@nowhere.net> wrote in message
news:Z_ydnQW-mOl38VTanZ2dnUVZ_jadnZ2d@comcast.com...
> Preaching - To advocate, especially to urge acceptance of or compliance with.
> Sounds like preaching to me, Gomer.
>
> "MICHAEL" <u158627_7@dslr.net> wrote in message news:u0vzFo6eIHA.4684@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>I wasn't preaching, goober.
>>
>> But, it is important that every so often,
>> someone points out his idiocy so that those
>> who are new to the group might understand
>> that his drivel is usually rather useless.
>>
>>
>> -Michael
>>
>> "Bob" <nowhere@nowhere.net> wrote in message
>> news:k7SdncmptaL99VTanZ2dnUVZ_qygnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>> Practice what you preach and don't respond to him.
>>>
>>> "MICHAEL" <u158627_7@dslr.net> wrote in message
>>> news:eTeGje6eIHA.3724@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> "alexB" <alexb@comcast.net> wrote in message news:eIIX8mxeIHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>> You should be ashamed for your idiotic outburst. You do not need more restore points.
>>>>> Besides, you have control over the number of restore points you can have. Just add more
>>>>> storage, do more backups and eat your sh*it in the privacy of your home. Do not bring
>>>>> your lunacy in here.
>>>>
>>>> Do you intend to always be the biggest imbecile
>>>> in this group? So far, you are winning quite handily.
>>>>
>>>> Thankfully, your plethora of posts quickly identified
>>>> your amazing lack of helpful tech knowledge and your
>>>> many mental deficiencies. Hopefully, most users simply
>>>> ignore your prattle.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Michael
>>>
>

"Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@mvps.com> wrote in message
news:ewEm6p6eIHA.5280@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> "Julian" <msforums@tiger2.notthisbit.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:uPJG4LxeIHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> It's not a bug - it's a completely idiotic feature of Vista Home Premium
>> (and maybe Basic too)
>>
>> System Restore relies on Shadow Storage - which MS also uses to provide
>> "previous version" file capabilities in higher-end Vista systems.
>>
>> However, Vista is in fact still taking copies of ALL your files - thereby
>> eating up space that you might reasonably have thought was solely for
>> System Restore points. Result: ShadowStorage fills up very quickly and
>> your restore points are dumped.
>>
>> See
>> http://berossus.blogspot.com/2008/02...ng-system.html
>> and the links therein for what I eventually found on the web once I knew
>> what to look for. It has been known about since last year apparently...
>>
>> Personally I am outraged at the lack of control over my own system, and
>> specifically the completely useless System Restore capability that has
>> resulted.
>>
>> MS should be ashamed. Very, very ashamed.
>>
>> But thanks to everyone who helped me track down the problem
>>
>> --
>> Julian I-Do-Stuff
>>
>> Some Vista stuff, but mostly just Stuff at http://berossus,blogspot.com
>
>
> You would be more outraged if Vista could not recover itself as well as it
> can..


I hate to sound as though I am anti-Vista - because I'm not - but at the
moment Vista seems less able to recover itself than my XP machines - though
fortunately it also seems to require less recovery.

My perhaps ill-made point was that the lack of control over what goes in
Shadow Storage prevented me from prioritising the storage of Restore Points
so that Vista could recover itself via System Restore (other mechanisms I am
unaware of).

The one and only occasion (thankfully!) that I needed System Restore there
was only 1 restore point less than 12 hours old and Vista could not recover
itself at all... leading to further problems as a result of an alternate
recovery strategy and a whole weekend's work, and it was this issue that
made me begin to pay attention to System Restore etc.

However I do now have a tentative solution to the System Restore without
Shadow-Copy-of-other-files issue, which I am testing. I want to let some
(useful!) System Restore points accumulate and check that nothing else has
been upset before giving a verdict, but I'll post back when I have some
news...

....taking care of course to provide only the information here and not to
spam the group with a footnote link to blog or blogs <g>

---
Julian I-Do-Stuff

Some Vista stuff, but mostly just Stuff at... just my blog, not important
really...

Ooops - not "footnote" link - inline link if you like... wasn't directed at
you Mike

"Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@mvps.com> wrote in message
news:ewEm6p6eIHA.5280@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> "Julian" <msforums@tiger2.notthisbit.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:uPJG4LxeIHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> It's not a bug - it's a completely idiotic feature of Vista Home Premium
>> (and maybe Basic too)
>>
>> System Restore relies on Shadow Storage - which MS also uses to provide
>> "previous version" file capabilities in higher-end Vista systems.
>>
>> However, Vista is in fact still taking copies of ALL your files - thereby
>> eating up space that you might reasonably have thought was solely for
>> System Restore points. Result: ShadowStorage fills up very quickly and
>> your restore points are dumped.
>>
>> See
>> http://berossus.blogspot.com/2008/02...ng-system.html
>> and the links therein for what I eventually found on the web once I knew
>> what to look for. It has been known about since last year apparently...
>>
>> Personally I am outraged at the lack of control over my own system, and
>> specifically the completely useless System Restore capability that has
>> resulted.
>>
>> MS should be ashamed. Very, very ashamed.
>>
>> But thanks to everyone who helped me track down the problem
>>
>> --
>> Julian I-Do-Stuff
>>
>> Some Vista stuff, but mostly just Stuff at http://berossus,blogspot.com
>
>
> You would be more outraged if Vista could not recover itself as well as it
> can..
>
> --
> Mike Hall - MVP
> How to construct a good post..
> http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
> How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
> http://support.microsoft.com/default...help&style=toc
> Mike's Window - My Blog..
> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx
>
>
>
>

--
Julian I-Do-Stuff

Some Vista stuff, but mostly just Stuff at http://berossus,blogspot.com

"Diamontina Cocktail" wrote:

>
> "dennis@home" <dennis@killspam.kicks-ass.net> wrote in message
> news:%23qXwu%23xeIHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >
> >
> > "On the Bridge!" <On@the,Bridge> wrote in message
> > news:47c87d8a@newsgate.x-privat.org...
> >> yes of course ....
> >> this is exactly as you say it...
> >>
> >> I understood this the very first time when vista was still in beta.
> >>
> >> On MACS you have to have an external drive for "TIME MACHINE" to work.
> >> Time machine is so far ahead of shadow copy thats its literally "from the
> >> future" pun intended!
> >>
> >> see how shadow copy should have been here
> >> http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/timemachine.html
> >
> > A feature stolen from "windows".
> > It is like www.memeo.com's backup solution for windows but not as good.
> > Memeo has been around for a lot longer than timemachine and there are
> > several alternatives that do similar things.
> > There was even a real-time backup and file versioner for win98 but I
> > forget what it was called.
> > Some more of Apples "innovation".
>
> Let us not forget that Apple Macs first did multitasking in 1988, about 4
> years after Commodore's Amiga was already doing it and with colour display,
> too, not the B&W Macs had back then but of course Mac users claim they had
> it first.
>
and the Amiga did it with only 256k ram try that on a MAC or PC
>

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"MICHAEL" <u158627_7@dslr.net> wrote in message
news:eT6wZ46eIHA.4744@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>I urge you to stimulate your internal anal sphincter
> and pull your head out of your rectum.
>
> Thanks, Otis.
>
>
> -Michael
>
> "Bob" <nowhere@nowhere.net> wrote in message
> news:Z_ydnQW-mOl38VTanZ2dnUVZ_jadnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Preaching - To advocate, especially to urge acceptance of or compliance
>> with.
>> Sounds like preaching to me, Gomer.
>>
>> "MICHAEL" <u158627_7@dslr.net> wrote in message
>> news:u0vzFo6eIHA.4684@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>I wasn't preaching, goober.
>>>
>>> But, it is important that every so often,
>>> someone points out his idiocy so that those
>>> who are new to the group might understand
>>> that his drivel is usually rather useless.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Michael
>>>
>>> "Bob" <nowhere@nowhere.net> wrote in message
>>> news:k7SdncmptaL99VTanZ2dnUVZ_qygnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>>> Practice what you preach and don't respond to him.
>>>>
>>>> "MICHAEL" <u158627_7@dslr.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:eTeGje6eIHA.3724@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>> "alexB" <alexb@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:eIIX8mxeIHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> You should be ashamed for your idiotic outburst. You do not need more
>>>>>> restore points. Besides, you have control over the number of restore
>>>>>> points you can have. Just add more storage, do more backups and eat
>>>>>> your sh*it in the privacy of your home. Do not bring your lunacy in
>>>>>> here.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you intend to always be the biggest imbecile
>>>>> in this group? So far, you are winning quite handily.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thankfully, your plethora of posts quickly identified
>>>>> your amazing lack of helpful tech knowledge and your
>>>>> many mental deficiencies. Hopefully, most users simply
>>>>> ignore your prattle.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -Michael
>>>>
>>