Backup error about space on Windows disk (0x81000014)

Will Do CHrisitine. It went fine twice then it happened again. Now It is in
the middle of a backup which has been going all day (and shouln't have as
there wasnt that much stuff and the last one only went for a few mins)...
hasnt stopoed yet though.

Once it is done I wilol send you the logs.

This is very od and this odd behavior wasnt happening for a year before now.

Mike
--
Mike Abrams


"Christine [MSFT]" wrote:

> Hi Mike,
>
> Can you send me all the etl files under C:\Windows\Logs\WindowsBackup?
> (remove "online" from my email address)
>
> Also, can you send me the output of typing this command on an elevated
> command prompt? (Start Menu->type "cmd"->right click->select "run as
> administrator")
> vsssadmin list shadowstorage
>
> Thanks,
> --
> Christine Fok, Program Manager, Storage Solution Division
>
>
> "Mike Abrams" wrote:
>
> > No it is NTFS... and it was working fine.. and it still works fine and then
> > stops all of the sudden....
> >
> > This just started happening.. The messahe aout the windows directory too
> > small (there is 400 GB free on the windows dive!)
> > --
> > Mike Abrams
> >
> >
> > "Bob" wrote:
> >
> > > Is the backup destination a FAT32 external hard drive?
> > >
> > > "Mike Abrams" <MikeAbrams@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > news:34B42301-AC77-4BBC-8D79-EA67E9E3A56C@microsoft.com...
> > > > Christine and others...
> > > >
> > > > I just started getting this same error.. I deleted the old backup and
> > > > started from scratch and go it.. now several times... sometimes it took
> > > > longer than others until it stopped..
> > > >
> > > > I dont know whats going on as everything was fine... sould an MS update
> > > > have
> > > > botched this up? Because all was fine until recent. I did run disk
> > > > cleanup
> > > > but doubt that would have to do with it as I ran this before.
> > > >
> > > > SOmeone please help with this
> > > >
> > > > I am running Ultimate 32 bit.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > --
> > > > Mike Abrams
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Christine [MSFT]" wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hi Laura & jmp,
> > > >>
> > > >> Is that error a one-time issue, or has it been showing up constantly even
> > > >> though there's enough space on your external HDD?
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks,
> > > >> Christine
> > > >>
> > > >> "LauraB" <LauraB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > >> news:E03C44F4-15A6-408C-B60A-A099B6ADC6B3@microsoft.com...
> > > >> > Thanks for your reply. My guess is it's some sort of bug?
> > > >> > Because the next day it ran fine with no error mesages.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > So I'm guessing the backups are okay, but I'd have a lot more
> > > >> > confidence
> > > >> > in
> > > >> > a backup system if it didn't give off error messages like this from
> > > >> > time
> > > >> > to
> > > >> > time.
> > > >> > --Laura
> > > >> >
> > > >> > "jmp" wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> I have the same problem, and I see several others have reported it
> > > >> >> too.
> > > >> >> I've
> > > >> >> found no help anywhere.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> "LauraB" wrote:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> > I have Windows Vista Home Premium, and have been using the Backup
> > > >> >> > tools
> > > >> >> > that
> > > >> >> > come with Vista. I've been performing backups of my C drive to an
> > > >> >> > external
> > > >> >> > harddrive (M).
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > For the most part the backup have been working, and I have tested
> > > >> >> > recovering
> > > >> >> > files. However today I got an error that I cannot figure out:
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > The last file backup did not complete succesfully. Details:
> > > >> >> > "There is not enough space on your Windows disk to prepare for
> > > >> >> > backing
> > > >> >> > up
> > > >> >> > your files. At least 400MB of free space is required to continue.
> > > >> >> > (0x81000014)"
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > I have over 183GB for free space on C. And over 297GB of free space
> > > >> >> > on
> > > >> >> > M.
> > > >> >> > I'm not sure where it can't find 400MB of space in all these free
> > > >> >> > GBs.
> > > >> >> > Any
> > > >> >> > suggestions?
> > > >> >> >
> > > >>
> > >
> > >

Things were fine for awhile and this just happened again.. am rerunning
backup now.

Will send logs.

Any answers or results on this at all in the pas tmonth to fix?

Mike
--
Mike Abrams


"Mike Abrams" wrote:

> Will Do CHrisitine. It went fine twice then it happened again. Now It is in
> the middle of a backup which has been going all day (and shouln't have as
> there wasnt that much stuff and the last one only went for a few mins)...
> hasnt stopoed yet though.
>
> Once it is done I wilol send you the logs.
>
> This is very od and this odd behavior wasnt happening for a year before now.
>
> Mike
> --
> Mike Abrams
>
>
> "Christine [MSFT]" wrote:
>
> > Hi Mike,
> >
> > Can you send me all the etl files under C:\Windows\Logs\WindowsBackup?
> > (remove "online" from my email address)
> >
> > Also, can you send me the output of typing this command on an elevated
> > command prompt? (Start Menu->type "cmd"->right click->select "run as
> > administrator")
> > vsssadmin list shadowstorage
> >
> > Thanks,
> > --
> > Christine Fok, Program Manager, Storage Solution Division
> >
> >
> > "Mike Abrams" wrote:
> >
> > > No it is NTFS... and it was working fine.. and it still works fine and then
> > > stops all of the sudden....
> > >
> > > This just started happening.. The messahe aout the windows directory too
> > > small (there is 400 GB free on the windows dive!)
> > > --
> > > Mike Abrams
> > >
> > >
> > > "Bob" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Is the backup destination a FAT32 external hard drive?
> > > >
> > > > "Mike Abrams" <MikeAbrams@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:34B42301-AC77-4BBC-8D79-EA67E9E3A56C@microsoft.com...
> > > > > Christine and others...
> > > > >
> > > > > I just started getting this same error.. I deleted the old backup and
> > > > > started from scratch and go it.. now several times... sometimes it took
> > > > > longer than others until it stopped..
> > > > >
> > > > > I dont know whats going on as everything was fine... sould an MS update
> > > > > have
> > > > > botched this up? Because all was fine until recent. I did run disk
> > > > > cleanup
> > > > > but doubt that would have to do with it as I ran this before.
> > > > >
> > > > > SOmeone please help with this
> > > > >
> > > > > I am running Ultimate 32 bit.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike
> > > > > --
> > > > > Mike Abrams
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Christine [MSFT]" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Hi Laura & jmp,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Is that error a one-time issue, or has it been showing up constantly even
> > > > >> though there's enough space on your external HDD?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Thanks,
> > > > >> Christine
> > > > >>
> > > > >> "LauraB" <LauraB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > > >> news:E03C44F4-15A6-408C-B60A-A099B6ADC6B3@microsoft.com...
> > > > >> > Thanks for your reply. My guess is it's some sort of bug?
> > > > >> > Because the next day it ran fine with no error mesages.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > So I'm guessing the backups are okay, but I'd have a lot more
> > > > >> > confidence
> > > > >> > in
> > > > >> > a backup system if it didn't give off error messages like this from
> > > > >> > time
> > > > >> > to
> > > > >> > time.
> > > > >> > --Laura
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > "jmp" wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >> I have the same problem, and I see several others have reported it
> > > > >> >> too.
> > > > >> >> I've
> > > > >> >> found no help anywhere.
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> "LauraB" wrote:
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> > I have Windows Vista Home Premium, and have been using the Backup
> > > > >> >> > tools
> > > > >> >> > that
> > > > >> >> > come with Vista. I've been performing backups of my C drive to an
> > > > >> >> > external
> > > > >> >> > harddrive (M).
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> > For the most part the backup have been working, and I have tested
> > > > >> >> > recovering
> > > > >> >> > files. However today I got an error that I cannot figure out:
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> > The last file backup did not complete succesfully. Details:
> > > > >> >> > "There is not enough space on your Windows disk to prepare for
> > > > >> >> > backing
> > > > >> >> > up
> > > > >> >> > your files. At least 400MB of free space is required to continue.
> > > > >> >> > (0x81000014)"
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> > I have over 183GB for free space on C. And over 297GB of free space
> > > > >> >> > on
> > > > >> >> > M.
> > > > >> >> > I'm not sure where it can't find 400MB of space in all these free
> > > > >> >> > GBs.
> > > > >> >> > Any
> > > > >> >> > suggestions?
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > > >

Is there any traction on this issue?

I had a backup set run fine a few times and then fail with this
error. It was one of the reasons I was looking forward to SP1. No
joy, same error.

I have 46GB free on the C:\ and over 400GB free on teh bcakup drive.

The error message says that it needs at least 400 MB free space to
continue (but it does not say where!)

I just reformatted my drive and reinstalled everything after updating to SP1...

STILL getting this error ahbout 400 MB free. I can keep restarting the
backup but this error keeps on coming.


Mike
--
Mike Abrams


"Freitag" wrote:

> Is there any traction on this issue?
>
> I had a backup set run fine a few times and then fail with this
> error. It was one of the reasons I was looking forward to SP1. No
> joy, same error.
>
> I have 46GB free on the C:\ and over 400GB free on teh bcakup drive.
>
> The error message says that it needs at least 400 MB free space to
> continue (but it does not say where!)
>

I too have this issue constantly, lots of search results for this problem but
no solutions anywhere - come on Microsoft let's get this resolved, I didn't
pay good money for Vista Ultimate to get broken bits...

"Mike Abrams" wrote:

> I just reformatted my drive and reinstalled everything after updating to SP1...
>
> STILL getting this error ahbout 400 MB free. I can keep restarting the
> backup but this error keeps on coming.
>
>
> Mike
> --
> Mike Abrams
>
>
> "Freitag" wrote:
>
> > Is there any traction on this issue?
> >
> > I had a backup set run fine a few times and then fail with this
> > error. It was one of the reasons I was looking forward to SP1. No
> > joy, same error.
> >
> > I have 46GB free on the C:\ and over 400GB free on teh bcakup drive.
> >
> > The error message says that it needs at least 400 MB free space to
> > continue (but it does not say where!)
> >

Hi Jason, we haven't been able to pin point the issue from some of the
previous logs sent by other customers. It'd be great if you could share you
trace files as well. (C:\Windows\Logs\WindowsBackup)

Thanks,
--
Christine Fok, Program Manager, Storage Solution Division

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.


"Jason" wrote:

> I too have this issue constantly, lots of search results for this problem but
> no solutions anywhere - come on Microsoft let's get this resolved, I didn't
> pay good money for Vista Ultimate to get broken bits...
>
> "Mike Abrams" wrote:
>
> > I just reformatted my drive and reinstalled everything after updating to SP1...
> >
> > STILL getting this error ahbout 400 MB free. I can keep restarting the
> > backup but this error keeps on coming.
> >
> >
> > Mike
> > --
> > Mike Abrams
> >
> >
> > "Freitag" wrote:
> >
> > > Is there any traction on this issue?
> > >
> > > I had a backup set run fine a few times and then fail with this
> > > error. It was one of the reasons I was looking forward to SP1. No
> > > joy, same error.
> > >
> > > I have 46GB free on the C:\ and over 400GB free on teh bcakup drive.
> > >
> > > The error message says that it needs at least 400 MB free space to
> > > continue (but it does not say where!)
> > >

Hi Christine

Have just emailed you those files, hope you can find something!


"Christine [MSFT]" wrote:

> Hi Jason, we haven't been able to pin point the issue from some of the
> previous logs sent by other customers. It'd be great if you could share you
> trace files as well. (C:\Windows\Logs\WindowsBackup)
>
> Thanks,
> --
> Christine Fok, Program Manager, Storage Solution Division
>
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
>
>
> "Jason" wrote:
>
> > I too have this issue constantly, lots of search results for this problem but
> > no solutions anywhere - come on Microsoft let's get this resolved, I didn't
> > pay good money for Vista Ultimate to get broken bits...
> >
> > "Mike Abrams" wrote:
> >
> > > I just reformatted my drive and reinstalled everything after updating to SP1...
> > >
> > > STILL getting this error ahbout 400 MB free. I can keep restarting the
> > > backup but this error keeps on coming.
> > >
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > --
> > > Mike Abrams
> > >
> > >
> > > "Freitag" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Is there any traction on this issue?
> > > >
> > > > I had a backup set run fine a few times and then fail with this
> > > > error. It was one of the reasons I was looking forward to SP1. No
> > > > joy, same error.
> > > >
> > > > I have 46GB free on the C:\ and over 400GB free on teh bcakup drive.
> > > >
> > > > The error message says that it needs at least 400 MB free space to
> > > > continue (but it does not say where!)
> > > >

Oh sorry I forgot to mention, please remove "online" from my email address.

Thanks,
--
Christine Fok, Program Manager, Storage Solution Division

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.


"Jason" wrote:

> Hi Christine
>
> Have just emailed you those files, hope you can find something!
>
>
> "Christine [MSFT]" wrote:
>
> > Hi Jason, we haven't been able to pin point the issue from some of the
> > previous logs sent by other customers. It'd be great if you could share you
> > trace files as well. (C:\Windows\Logs\WindowsBackup)
> >
> > Thanks,
> > --
> > Christine Fok, Program Manager, Storage Solution Division
> >
> > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
> >
> >
> > "Jason" wrote:
> >
> > > I too have this issue constantly, lots of search results for this problem but
> > > no solutions anywhere - come on Microsoft let's get this resolved, I didn't
> > > pay good money for Vista Ultimate to get broken bits...
> > >
> > > "Mike Abrams" wrote:
> > >
> > > > I just reformatted my drive and reinstalled everything after updating to SP1...
> > > >
> > > > STILL getting this error ahbout 400 MB free. I can keep restarting the
> > > > backup but this error keeps on coming.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > --
> > > > Mike Abrams
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Freitag" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Is there any traction on this issue?
> > > > >
> > > > > I had a backup set run fine a few times and then fail with this
> > > > > error. It was one of the reasons I was looking forward to SP1. No
> > > > > joy, same error.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have 46GB free on the C:\ and over 400GB free on teh bcakup drive.
> > > > >
> > > > > The error message says that it needs at least 400 MB free space to
> > > > > continue (but it does not say where!)
> > > > >

Have emailed those, but of the 7 files sent, 5 of them are around 10mb and
have been rejected by your mailserver, is there another way to send them?

"Christine [MSFT]" wrote:

> Oh sorry I forgot to mention, please remove "online" from my email address.
>
> Thanks,
> --
> Christine Fok, Program Manager, Storage Solution Division
>
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
>
>
> "Jason" wrote:
>
> > Hi Christine
> >
> > Have just emailed you those files, hope you can find something!
> >
> >
> > "Christine [MSFT]" wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Jason, we haven't been able to pin point the issue from some of the
> > > previous logs sent by other customers. It'd be great if you could share you
> > > trace files as well. (C:\Windows\Logs\WindowsBackup)
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > --
> > > Christine Fok, Program Manager, Storage Solution Division
> > >
> > > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
> > >
> > >
> > > "Jason" wrote:
> > >
> > > > I too have this issue constantly, lots of search results for this problem but
> > > > no solutions anywhere - come on Microsoft let's get this resolved, I didn't
> > > > pay good money for Vista Ultimate to get broken bits...
> > > >
> > > > "Mike Abrams" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I just reformatted my drive and reinstalled everything after updating to SP1...
> > > > >
> > > > > STILL getting this error ahbout 400 MB free. I can keep restarting the
> > > > > backup but this error keeps on coming.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike
> > > > > --
> > > > > Mike Abrams
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Freitag" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Is there any traction on this issue?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I had a backup set run fine a few times and then fail with this
> > > > > > error. It was one of the reasons I was looking forward to SP1. No
> > > > > > joy, same error.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have 46GB free on the C:\ and over 400GB free on teh bcakup drive.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The error message says that it needs at least 400 MB free space to
> > > > > > continue (but it does not say where!)
> > > > > >

You could try one of those online file transfer sites, such as
www.yousendit.com or sendthisfile.com
--
Christine Fok, Program Manager, Storage Solution Division

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.


"Jason" wrote:

> Have emailed those, but of the 7 files sent, 5 of them are around 10mb and
> have been rejected by your mailserver, is there another way to send them?
>
> "Christine [MSFT]" wrote:
>
> > Oh sorry I forgot to mention, please remove "online" from my email address.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > --
> > Christine Fok, Program Manager, Storage Solution Division
> >
> > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
> >
> >
> > "Jason" wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Christine
> > >
> > > Have just emailed you those files, hope you can find something!
> > >
> > >
> > > "Christine [MSFT]" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Jason, we haven't been able to pin point the issue from some of the
> > > > previous logs sent by other customers. It'd be great if you could share you
> > > > trace files as well. (C:\Windows\Logs\WindowsBackup)
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > --
> > > > Christine Fok, Program Manager, Storage Solution Division
> > > >
> > > > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Jason" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I too have this issue constantly, lots of search results for this problem but
> > > > > no solutions anywhere - come on Microsoft let's get this resolved, I didn't
> > > > > pay good money for Vista Ultimate to get broken bits...
> > > > >
> > > > > "Mike Abrams" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I just reformatted my drive and reinstalled everything after updating to SP1...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > STILL getting this error ahbout 400 MB free. I can keep restarting the
> > > > > > backup but this error keeps on coming.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mike
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Mike Abrams
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Freitag" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Is there any traction on this issue?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I had a backup set run fine a few times and then fail with this
> > > > > > > error. It was one of the reasons I was looking forward to SP1. No
> > > > > > > joy, same error.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have 46GB free on the C:\ and over 400GB free on teh bcakup drive.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The error message says that it needs at least 400 MB free space to
> > > > > > > continue (but it does not say where!)
> > > > > > >