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Old 05-05-2007
Chad G
 

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Vista Home Network issues with XP PCs
Having read and worked through over 40 messages on this board, I still do not
have my issue resolved. Some one needs to fix this issue up there in Seattle.
We all are having to do way to much work to connect to our previous
functioning home network. I contacted WINDOWS VISTA Support who refered me to
DELL support who couldn't help me! All I want is some one to own this problem
and FIX IT!

Please review my network and PC setup below and please tell me what I can do
to have full access to my home network like I was able to with all my other
PCs running WIN XP.

I have a 2 day old Dell Inspiron Laptop(LT) Fully loaded with all the gadgets.
I removed the mcaffee Firewall and AV software and restarted pc.
Windows Vista Premium Edition.
Connected to the internet through Wep enabled WAP/connected to a router.
ALL PCs/LapTops(LT), WAP, & Router have static IPS.
I have no problem connecting to the internet with my VISTA PC.
2 Desktops and 2 wireless laptops connect to the same workgroup name.
(all PCs see eachother except the VISTA LT)
I can connect to the WWW no problem. I can Ping my WAP, Router, Media PC,
but can not ping my kids PC from my VISTA LT.
All other XP PCs can do everthing to all PCs but can not see my Vista LT.

ANSWERS to previous QUESTIONS.
1. Firewall on each pc - is the ip addresses of the other pc allowed (YES)
2. Router/each pc - If wireless is the correct encryption passkey in use
Vista Pc:
3. Private network ... (this is a home network, I did try public)
4. Public Folder Sharing is ON
5. Password Protection is disabled with no PW
6. Network and Sharing/File Sharing - (activated)
- Everyone permission(as above common username/pw profiles added to all
pc's)

XP PC:
7. File Sharing enabled
8. Folder - properties set to share the folder
9. Permission set to allow other pc access

I have visited and didn't find any help at the sites below!
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net.../vista_fp.mspx
http://www.chicagotech.net/vista/vista.htm
http://www.ezlan.net/index.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/



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Old 05-05-2007
Chuck
 

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Re: Vista Home Network issues with XP PCs
On Fri, 4 May 2007 20:32:00 -0700, Chad G <ChadG@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote:

>Having read and worked through over 40 messages on this board, I still do not
>have my issue resolved. Some one needs to fix this issue up there in Seattle.
>We all are having to do way to much work to connect to our previous
>functioning home network. I contacted WINDOWS VISTA Support who refered me to
>DELL support who couldn't help me! All I want is some one to own this problem
>and FIX IT!
>
>Please review my network and PC setup below and please tell me what I can do
>to have full access to my home network like I was able to with all my other
>PCs running WIN XP.
>
>I have a 2 day old Dell Inspiron Laptop(LT) Fully loaded with all the gadgets.
>I removed the mcaffee Firewall and AV software and restarted pc.
>Windows Vista Premium Edition.
>Connected to the internet through Wep enabled WAP/connected to a router.
> ALL PCs/LapTops(LT), WAP, & Router have static IPS.
> I have no problem connecting to the internet with my VISTA PC.
>2 Desktops and 2 wireless laptops connect to the same workgroup name.
> (all PCs see eachother except the VISTA LT)
>I can connect to the WWW no problem. I can Ping my WAP, Router, Media PC,
>but can not ping my kids PC from my VISTA LT.
>All other XP PCs can do everthing to all PCs but can not see my Vista LT.
>
>ANSWERS to previous QUESTIONS.
>1. Firewall on each pc - is the ip addresses of the other pc allowed (YES)
>2. Router/each pc - If wireless is the correct encryption passkey in use
>Vista Pc:
>3. Private network ... (this is a home network, I did try public)
>4. Public Folder Sharing is ON
>5. Password Protection is disabled with no PW
>6. Network and Sharing/File Sharing - (activated)
> - Everyone permission(as above common username/pw profiles added to all
>pc's)
>
>XP PC:
>7. File Sharing enabled
>8. Folder - properties set to share the folder
>9. Permission set to allow other pc access
>
>I have visited and didn't find any help at the sites below!
>http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net.../vista_fp.mspx
>http://www.chicagotech.net/vista/vista.htm
>http://www.ezlan.net/index.html
>http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/


Chad,

OK, I don't see any prior posts by you, so if you'll work with me, we can first
find out what the problem is. And since I don't know which posts you have read,
I'll ask you to read each one, as I cite it. I'll start by asking you to read
about network troubleshooting in general.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...-tutorial.html

You will need to set the Network Location Type to Private, not Public.

And regardless of whether the personal firewall is set to allow the other
computer(s), you have to open the right ports. And, you need to Enable NetBT
Consistently.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/0...ing-using.html

Next, look at "browstat status" and "ipconfig /all" from each computer, and
diagnose the problem. Read this article, and linked articles, and follow
instructions precisely (download browstat!):
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...#AskingForHelp

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Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.
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Old 05-06-2007
Chad G
 

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Re: Vista Home Network issues with XP PCs
Home Network/communication with my new Vista PC is still not working.
(at this point, I am wishing I invested my $2400 in to a MAC? If I can not
fix this soon, I may return this PC.)

Chuck or anyone who can help, here is the info you requested.....
I. Network troubleshooting in general = Read and understand
II. Network is and has been Private.
III. Firewall setup: Off when troubleshooting.
IV. NetBIOS: Enabled
V. PC Info
1. IPCONFIG
Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Chad-PC
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-Card
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-19-7E-4D-AA-84
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::68a7:6d27:54f1:2d3%10(Preferred)
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.36(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 66.75.164.90
24.25.227.34
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : pen.apac.dell.com
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated
Controller
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-18-8B-C9-2E-F2
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 6:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . :
2001:0:4136:e37e:cfa:107e:3f57:ffdb(Preferred)
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::cfa:107e:3f57:ffdb%8(Preferred)
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : ::
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 7:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.pen.apac.dell.com
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 9:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . :
isatap.{04287A51-F11B-4BC2-B5E6-BC0867608C66}
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::5efe:192.168.0.36%12(Preferred)
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 66.75.164.90
24.25.227.34
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled


2. Net Config server... when trying to creat text the reply was "access
denied" numerous attempts were made...


3. Netconfig WorkStation info.
Computer name \\CHAD-PC
Full Computer name Chad-PC
User name Chad

Workstation active on
NetbiosSmb (000000000000)
NetBT_Tcpip_{04287A51-F11B-4BC2-B5E6-BC0867608C66} (00197E4DAA84)

Software version Windows Vista (TM) Home Premium

Workstation domain GFAMILY
Logon domain Chad-PC

COM Open Timeout (sec) 0
COM Send Count (byte) 16
COM Send Timeout (msec) 250
The command completed successfully.

4. Browstat
returned
0wfw servers returned. 0 total
There are WFW servers with an active browser.



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Old 05-06-2007
Chuck
 

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Re: Vista Home Network issues with XP PCs
On Sun, 6 May 2007 03:34:01 -0700, Chad G <ChadG@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote:

>Home Network/communication with my new Vista PC is still not working.
>(at this point, I am wishing I invested my $2400 in to a MAC? If I can not
>fix this soon, I may return this PC.)
>
>Chuck or anyone who can help, here is the info you requested.....
>I. Network troubleshooting in general = Read and understand
>II. Network is and has been Private.
>III. Firewall setup: Off when troubleshooting.
>IV. NetBIOS: Enabled


That's a good start, Chad. But looking for problems like yours is much easier
to do with diagnostics from at least 2 of the other computers also. Both
browstat and ipconfig provide clues, which can be used in looking for your
problem. Please read how to solve network problems.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...-tutorial.html

When you say "all PCs see eachother except the VISTA LT", you are describing a
typical browser conflict. Browstat is an essential diagnostic, but is needed
from all computers, and must be properly run on each.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/browstat-utility-from-microsoft.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...microsoft.html

The NT browser is a lot of fun to work with.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/04/nt-browser-or-why-cant-i-always-see.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...lways-see.html

And if you feel the need to get rid of your Winodoze computer, and get a Mac, do
so. Just don't whine about it. We'll try to help, but you have to help us to
help you.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/how-to-post-on-usenet-and-encourage.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...encourage.html

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Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.
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Old 05-07-2007
Chad G
 

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Re: Vista Home Network issues with XP PCs
Chuck,

I fixed my problem...

Here is how.

All PCs turned on and able to connect to the WWW.
Ran the Setup a home network program on each PC... one at a time...with out
restarting.
Then restarted each PC, one at a time waiting until each powered up
completly, then logged on to the main adminstrator of the PC.
Once all were restarted and logged on, I pulled up the network page to
review each PC conntected to the Network. (Vista was not present on any PC.)
On my Windows XP PC, In the address bar, I typed in my vista PCs computer
name into the address... \\delllt\public. After about 30 seconted, My Win XP
PC recognized the VISTA PC. I then repeated it on the other XP PC with the
same result.

I then went to the Vista PC and was able to see and connect to all my home
networked XP PCs.

Bascially, I had to run the "setup a home network" on all PCs and restart
all before I could attempt to see the Vista. Then I had to manually type in
my Vista's address into each XP PC...

I hope this some one else. GL

New problem:
I can not install my network Printer now. It does not see it. I have enabled
print sharing on the PC that controls the printer. All other XP PC can and
does connect and print from the main PC. any suggestion would be appreciated.

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Old 05-07-2007
Chuck
 

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Re: Vista Home Network issues with XP PCs
On Sun, 6 May 2007 19:56:00 -0700, Chad G <ChadG@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote:

>Chuck,
>
>I fixed my problem...
>
>Here is how.
>
>All PCs turned on and able to connect to the WWW.
>Ran the Setup a home network program on each PC... one at a time...with out
>restarting.
>Then restarted each PC, one at a time waiting until each powered up
>completly, then logged on to the main adminstrator of the PC.
>Once all were restarted and logged on, I pulled up the network page to
>review each PC conntected to the Network. (Vista was not present on any PC.)
>On my Windows XP PC, In the address bar, I typed in my vista PCs computer
>name into the address... \\delllt\public. After about 30 seconted, My Win XP
>PC recognized the VISTA PC. I then repeated it on the other XP PC with the
>same result.
>
>I then went to the Vista PC and was able to see and connect to all my home
>networked XP PCs.
>
>Bascially, I had to run the "setup a home network" on all PCs and restart
>all before I could attempt to see the Vista. Then I had to manually type in
>my Vista's address into each XP PC...
>
>I hope this some one else. GL
>
>New problem:
>I can not install my network Printer now. It does not see it. I have enabled
>print sharing on the PC that controls the printer. All other XP PC can and
>does connect and print from the main PC. any suggestion would be appreciated.


You have a browser problem, Chad. Using the "\\delllt\public" command worked
around the problem, but didn't fix it. If you want to "see" the printer, you
have to get the browser working.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/04/nt-browser-or-why-cant-i-always-see.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...lways-see.html

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.
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