Router access (running Vista)

On Sun, 08 Apr 2007 11:24:44 +0200, "cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user)"
>On Tue, 3 Apr 2007 07:52:02 -0700, RGA
<RGA@discussions.microsoft.com>

>>I cannot access the router itself by entering the http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx url
>>that the vendor gives in the owners manual.

>Perhaps the router is no longer using the same local (private, LAN
>side of the NAT) IP address range?

>Also, be sure to precede the IP with http:// as the browser may
>otherwise do a "search" for it.

Also, make sure there is no web (Internet) proxy settings in effect.



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Hi thanks for your advice. I tried the ipconfig and the gateway is the same,
it hasn't changed. there are no proxies and i am using http:// in the address
line .... all to no avail. any other ideas?

new topic. i play music through my computer (as a jukebox, internet radio,
itunes, etc) and it plays fine. if it sits ifdle for a while, then it does
not play. the applications run fine, bu there is no sound. i retart the
computer and all is fine again. sounds like it "times out" because of some
reason. Any thoughts on this?

Thanks ...... again.


"cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user)" wrote:

> On Sun, 08 Apr 2007 11:24:44 +0200, "cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user)"
> >On Tue, 3 Apr 2007 07:52:02 -0700, RGA
> <RGA@discussions.microsoft.com>
>
> >>I cannot access the router itself by entering the http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx url
> >>that the vendor gives in the owners manual.
>
> >Perhaps the router is no longer using the same local (private, LAN
> >side of the NAT) IP address range?
>
> >Also, be sure to precede the IP with http:// as the browser may
> >otherwise do a "search" for it.
>
> Also, make sure there is no web (Internet) proxy settings in effect.
>
>
>
> >-------------------- ----- ---- --- -- - - - -
> Reality is that which, when you stop believing
> in it, does not go away (PKD)
> >-------------------- ----- ---- --- -- - - - -
>

On Sun, 8 Apr 2007 09:42:00 -0700, RGA <RGA@discussions.microsoft.com>

>Hi thanks for your advice. I tried the ipconfig and the gateway is the same,
>it hasn't changed. there are no proxies and i am using http:// in the address
>line .... all to no avail. any other ideas?

Bummer.

Malicious HOSTS redirect?
Did you try other web browsers?

What actually happens when you try http://a.b.c.d ?

>new topic. i play music through my computer (as a jukebox, internet radio,
>itunes, etc) and it plays fine. if it sits ifdle for a while,

What happens during this idle time? i.e.
- does the monitor suspend
- does the HD spin down
- does a screensaver kick in, and if so, what screen saver
- does the system suspend

>then it does not play. the applications run fine, bu there is no sound.

Are you using USB speakers? If so, do "real" speakers suck less?

My guesses are some sort of "suspend" that does not restore the prior
state, or a screen saver that hogs the sound device and doesn't
release it when it clears, or some sort of USB thing.



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after entering the http://a.b.c.d then IE works for a about a minute and
returns a message saying the device cannot be accessed. i try the
troubleshoot button and it returns a message saying it cannot be
troubleshooted. another button trys to explain reasons why it cannot be
accessed, but none make sense. the frusterating thing is that i can get out
to the net fine, just not to the internal router setup screen.

the sound issue - no screen saver, it just goes to black. when i move the
mouse it comes back to the desktop screen. everything works fine, i can play
a song but no sound comes out.

thx.


"cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user)" wrote:

> On Sun, 8 Apr 2007 09:42:00 -0700, RGA <RGA@discussions.microsoft.com>
>
> >Hi thanks for your advice. I tried the ipconfig and the gateway is the same,
> >it hasn't changed. there are no proxies and i am using http:// in the address
> >line .... all to no avail. any other ideas?
>
> Bummer.
>
> Malicious HOSTS redirect?
> Did you try other web browsers?
>
> What actually happens when you try http://a.b.c.d ?
>
> >new topic. i play music through my computer (as a jukebox, internet radio,
> >itunes, etc) and it plays fine. if it sits ifdle for a while,
>
> What happens during this idle time? i.e.
> - does the monitor suspend
> - does the HD spin down
> - does a screensaver kick in, and if so, what screen saver
> - does the system suspend
>
> >then it does not play. the applications run fine, bu there is no sound.
>
> Are you using USB speakers? If so, do "real" speakers suck less?
>
> My guesses are some sort of "suspend" that does not restore the prior
> state, or a screen saver that hogs the sound device and doesn't
> release it when it clears, or some sort of USB thing.
>
>
>
> >--------------- ----- ---- --- -- - - -
> Tech Support: The guys who follow the
> 'Parade of New Products' with a shovel.
> >--------------- ----- ---- --- -- - - -
>

On Mon, 9 Apr 2007 07:50:03 -0700, RGA <RGA@discussions.microsoft.com>

>after entering the http://a.b.c.d then IE works for a about a minute and
>returns a message saying the device cannot be accessed.

That smells like it's either not on the right subnet, or there's some
sort of proxy settings in the way. Or... the router's had the web
interface disabled, which isn't the default, but could be done by
those who prefer to access it as a "terminal".

>another button trys to explain reasons why it cannot be accessed,
>but none make sense.

What are these reasons? If you can get exact text, you can search the
internet for "the exact error string" etc.

>the frusterating thing is that i can get out to the net fine, just not
>to the internal router setup screen.

OK; then it sounds like the web interface is disabled, or there's a
block that applies only for the web service, e.g. web proxy.

>the sound issue - no screen saver, it just goes to black. when i move the
>mouse it comes back to the desktop screen. everything works fine, i can play
>a song but no sound comes out.

OK, so it's not a screen saver that hogs the sound.

Need to know:
- when screen goes black, is the PC:
- suspending
- spinning down the HD
- or just suspending the monitor?
- are you using USB or "wireless" speakers?
- are .MID, audio CDs and .WAV equally affected?




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been gone for a while sorry. appreciate the input, nothing has worked so far.
no proxies are set up and the web client is not disabled. i can access the
router from the other XP computers in the building. do i need to change the
Vista computer settings if it's set up as a "terminal" as you wrote below
(how can i tell if this is the case?)? Here's the text i refer to in my
message:

This problem can be caused by a variety of issues, including:

Internet connectivity has been lost.
The website is temporarily unavailable.
The Domain Name Server (DNS) is not reachable.
The Domain Name Server (DNS) does not have a listing for the website's
domain.
If this is an HTTPS (secure) address, click Tools, click Internet Options,
click Advanced, and check to be sure the SSL and TLS protocols are enabled
under the security section.

BTW, the sound issue is fixed. Thanks again.


"cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user)" wrote:

> On Mon, 9 Apr 2007 07:50:03 -0700, RGA <RGA@discussions.microsoft.com>
>
> >after entering the http://a.b.c.d then IE works for a about a minute and
> >returns a message saying the device cannot be accessed.
>
> That smells like it's either not on the right subnet, or there's some
> sort of proxy settings in the way. Or... the router's had the web
> interface disabled, which isn't the default, but could be done by
> those who prefer to access it as a "terminal".
>
> >another button trys to explain reasons why it cannot be accessed,
> >but none make sense.
>
> What are these reasons? If you can get exact text, you can search the
> internet for "the exact error string" etc.
>
> >the frusterating thing is that i can get out to the net fine, just not
> >to the internal router setup screen.
>
> OK; then it sounds like the web interface is disabled, or there's a
> block that applies only for the web service, e.g. web proxy.
>
> >the sound issue - no screen saver, it just goes to black. when i move the
> >mouse it comes back to the desktop screen. everything works fine, i can play
> >a song but no sound comes out.
>
> OK, so it's not a screen saver that hogs the sound.
>
> Need to know:
> - when screen goes black, is the PC:
> - suspending
> - spinning down the HD
> - or just suspending the monitor?
> - are you using USB or "wireless" speakers?
> - are .MID, audio CDs and .WAV equally affected?
>
>
>
>
> >---------- ----- ---- --- -- - - - -
> Do it once, properly
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>