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Old 08-29-2008
DC
 

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Is there a simple published solution?
I'm running XP on my desktop and Vista on my laptop. Both are
connected to the wireless network, and the printer is connected via
USB to the desktop. However, the laptop can't find the printer or
shared folders (although it finds the internet connection).

If I decide just to start over again from scratch and reboot the
router, are there instructions printed somewhere that will walk me
through this step-by-step so that I don't make the same mistakes
(whatever they were) again?

Thanks!
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Old 08-29-2008
Malke
 

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Re: Is there a simple published solution?
DC wrote:

> I'm running XP on my desktop and Vista on my laptop. Both are
> connected to the wireless network, and the printer is connected via
> USB to the desktop. However, the laptop can't find the printer or
> shared folders (although it finds the internet connection).
>
> If I decide just to start over again from scratch and reboot the
> router, are there instructions printed somewhere that will walk me
> through this step-by-step so that I don't make the same mistakes
> (whatever they were) again?


I'm not sure what instructions you're looking for. If both machines can
reach the Internet, your router is working and unless you didn't set up
your wireless securely, you don't need to mess about with it. If you are
unsure whether you set up your wireless securely, post back and I'll give
you general instructions.

You need to set up file/printer sharing on both the computers in order to
share resources, including the printer. Here are general network
troubleshooting steps. Not everything may be applicable to your situation,
so just take the bits that are. It may look daunting, but if you follow the
steps at the links and suggestions below systematically and calmly, you
will have no difficulty in setting up your sharing.

Excellent, thorough, yet easy to understand article about File/Printer
Sharing in Vista. Includes details about sharing printers as well as files
and folders:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx

For XP, start by running the Network Setup Wizard on all machines (see
caveat in Item A below).

Problems sharing files between computers on a network are generally caused
by 1) a misconfigured firewall or overlooked firewall (including a stateful
firewall in a VPN); or 2) inadvertently running two firewalls such as the
built-in Windows Firewall and a third-party firewall; and/or 3) not having
identical user accounts and passwords on all Workgroup machines; 4) trying
to create shares where the operating system does not permit it.

A. Configure firewalls on all machines to allow the Local Area Network (LAN)
traffic as trusted. With Windows Firewall, this means allowing File/Printer
Sharing on the Exceptions tab. Normally running the Network Setup Wizard on
XP will take care of this for those machines.The only "gotcha" is that this
will turn on the XPSP2 Windows Firewall. If you aren't running a
third-party firewall or have an antivirus with "Internet Worm
Protection" (like Norton 2006/07) which acts as a firewall, then you're
fine. With third-party firewalls, I usually configure the LAN allowance
with an IP range. Ex. would be 192.168.1.0-192.168.1.254. Obviously you
would substitute your correct subnet. Do not run more than one firewall. DO
NOT TURN OFF FIREWALLS; CONFIGURE THEM CORRECTLY.

B. For ease of organization, put all computers in the same Workgroup. This
is done from the System applet in Control Panel, Computer Name tab.

C. Create matching user accounts and passwords on all machines. You do not
need to be logged into the same account on all machines and the passwords
assigned to each user account can be different; the accounts/passwords just
need to exist and match on all machines. DO NOT NEGLECT TO CREATE
PASSWORDS, EVEN IF ONLY SIMPLE ONES. If you wish a machine to boot directly
to the Desktop (into one particular user's account) for convenience, you
can do this. The instructions at this link work for both XP and Vista:

Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) -
http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm

D. If one or more of the computers is XP Pro or Media Center, turn off
Simple File Sharing (Folder Options>View tab).

E. Create shares as desired. XP Home does not permit sharing of users' home
directories or Program Files, but you can share folders inside those
directories. A better choice is to simply use the Shared Documents folder.
See the first link above for details about Vista sharing.

F. After you have file sharing working (and have tested this by exchanging a
file between all machines), if you want to share a printer connected
locally to one of your computers, share it out from that machine. Then go
to the printer mftr.'s website and download the latest drivers for the
correct operating system(s). Install them on the target machine(s). The
printer should be seen during the installation routine. If it is not,
install the drivers and then use the Add Printer Wizard. In some instances,
certain printers need to be installed as Local printers but that is outside
of this response.

Malke
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MS-MVP
Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ

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Old 08-29-2008
Jack \(MVP-Networking\).
 

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Re: Is there a simple published solution?
Hi
When using the internal resources (like file and printer sharing) the Router
is Not really part of the equation.
If both computers can use the Internet the problems stems from issues of the
Sharing configuration on each computer.
Successful Sharing involves some general consideration in Network settings,
http://www.ezlan.net/sharing.html
As well as specific adjustment of each computer according to what it is
allowed to be shared.
Vista File and Printer Sharing-
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx
Windows XP File Sharing -
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;304040
Printer Sharing XP -
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...utt_july2.mspx
Windows Native Firewall setting for Sharing XP -
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875357
Windows XP patch for Sharing with Vista -
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922120
Jack (MVP-Networking).


"DC" <dbcahill@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:aa45a728-761b-4997-89d8-61eb92d02723@k7g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
> I'm running XP on my desktop and Vista on my laptop. Both are
> connected to the wireless network, and the printer is connected via
> USB to the desktop. However, the laptop can't find the printer or
> shared folders (although it finds the internet connection).
>
> If I decide just to start over again from scratch and reboot the
> router, are there instructions printed somewhere that will walk me
> through this step-by-step so that I don't make the same mistakes
> (whatever they were) again?
>
> Thanks!


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Old 08-29-2008
Robert L. \(MS-MVP\)
 

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Re: Is there a simple published solution?
Can you ping desktop from laptop using IP? Also post the result of net share
command on desktop may help.

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Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"DC" <dbcahill@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:aa45a728-761b-4997-89d8-61eb92d02723@k7g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
> I'm running XP on my desktop and Vista on my laptop. Both are
> connected to the wireless network, and the printer is connected via
> USB to the desktop. However, the laptop can't find the printer or
> shared folders (although it finds the internet connection).
>
> If I decide just to start over again from scratch and reboot the
> router, are there instructions printed somewhere that will walk me
> through this step-by-step so that I don't make the same mistakes
> (whatever they were) again?
>
> Thanks!


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Old 08-29-2008
Hans-Georg Michna
 

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Re: Is there a simple published solution?
On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:41:50 -0700 (PDT), DC wrote:

>I'm running XP on my desktop and Vista on my laptop. Both are
>connected to the wireless network, and the printer is connected via
>USB to the desktop. However, the laptop can't find the printer or
>shared folders (although it finds the internet connection).
>
>If I decide just to start over again from scratch and reboot the
>router, are there instructions printed somewhere that will walk me
>through this step-by-step so that I don't make the same mistakes
>(whatever they were) again?


Yes, at http://winhlp.com/node/179 .

Hans-Georg
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Old 08-30-2008
Mick Murphy
 

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RE: Is there a simple published solution?
How to network XP and Vista info below.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx

Have a read of the above link re Vista File and Printer Sharing.

Permissions/Share info is there as well.

If using Norton, McAfee, Trend Micro I.S., make sure file and printer
sharing is enabled in THEIR firewall (or LAN allowed, depending on how their
Exceptions are worded in their Firewall)

1st thing to do is make sure that the Workgroup Name of ALL the computers is
the SAME.

In Vista Network and Sharing:

Network Discovery: ON (So it can see the other computers)

Network set to Private (Public is for hotspots, airports, etc)

File Sharing: ON

Public Folder Sharing: ON (Vista’s Public Folder is the same as XP’s Shared
Docs)

Password Protected: OFF (unless you want to set up identical usernames and
passwords (passwords can be different) on ALL computers in your Network) If
you have it ON, you will be asked for a username and password when you try to
access a Vista computer from an XP computer, or a Vista computer.

Also, run the XP’s Home or Small Office Network File and Printer Sharing
Wizard to include Vista in your “New” Network, even if you had an XP Network
set up prior to adding a Vista computer to it(redoing the Wizard seems to
work for XP machines!).

In “My Network Places”: “Set up a Home or Small Office Network”
OR under Accessories > Communications > Network Setup Wizard > Allow File
and Printer Sharing.

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Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia


"DC" wrote:

> I'm running XP on my desktop and Vista on my laptop. Both are
> connected to the wireless network, and the printer is connected via
> USB to the desktop. However, the laptop can't find the printer or
> shared folders (although it finds the internet connection).
>
> If I decide just to start over again from scratch and reboot the
> router, are there instructions printed somewhere that will walk me
> through this step-by-step so that I don't make the same mistakes
> (whatever they were) again?
>
> Thanks!
>

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