Creating secure shared folder.

steverashi wrote:

>
> Malke,
>
> Thanks for your replies. I have gone through the guide step by step and
> am able to share the folder and access the contents. The problem is that
> when I remove the Everyone group I can no longer acces the folder. Does
> this need to be left in. I do not want any other persons viewing this
> folder as it will contain sensitive information.
> I do have a user account on the vista machine and have set a new group
> with me as the only member, but as I said when I remove the Everyone
> group I can no longer access even though my user account as well as the
> new group have permission to access.
> Thanks.
>
>

Addendum - On looking at your post again, you may have posted to the
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Malke
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Malke,

Thanks for your replies. I have gone through the guide step by step and am
able to share the folder and access the contents. The problem is that when I
remove the Everyone group I can no longer acces the folder. Does this need
to be left in. I do not want any other persons viewing this folder as it
will contain sensitive information.
I do have a user account on the vista machine and have set a new group with
me as the only member, but as I said when I remove the Everyone group I can
no longer access even though my user account as well as the new group have
permission to access.

"John N" <JohnN@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:45533E32-3B28-459A-B2F3-BF75CB5FF9A4@microsoft.com...
> What is see left out here is the possibility of a Vista glitch. I have
> the
> same problem with the same 'access denied' error but not with batch files
> or
> even mapped drive. I can simply get to my shared folder from some
> computers
> and not others. If I an asked for a username and password, then it works.
> But if I can type in the IP address, say \\192.168.1.108, it opens with
> the
> shared folders but not allowing me to open them.
>
> "Malke" wrote:
>
>> steverashi wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > "'\\server\file' (file://\\server\file) is not accessible. You might
>> > not
>> > have permission....... Access Denied"
>> >
>> > This is the error message when trying to access the folder. I have
>> > created a User name on the Vista machine the same as mine on the XP
>> > machine. I can see the folder but cannot access.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Sorry, you keep giving me little bits of information but not the whole
>> picture. You definitely have something set wrong, either the passwords
>> don't match - or you didn't create passwords - and/or your firewall is
>> wrong. I really can't spend time guessing and waiting for you to supply
>> the
>> next piece of the puzzle. Read through my general networking
>> troubleshooting steps below. Be systematic in your troubleshooting and
>> you
>> will find your mistake and be able to correct it.
>>
>> If this is too much, you still can't find the error, etc. then there is
>> no
>> shame in hiring a local professional to come set you up. This will only
>> take a few minutes per machine. I don't recommend using a
>> BigComputerStore
>> type of place.
>>
>> ****
>> Here are general network troubleshooting steps. Not everything may be
>> applicable to your situation, so just take the bits that are. It may look
>> daunting, but if you follow the steps at the links and suggestions below
>> systematically and calmly, you will have no difficulty in setting up your
>> sharing.
>>
>> Excellent, thorough, yet easy to understand article about File/Printer
>> Sharing in Vista. Includes details about sharing printers as well as
>> files
>> and folders:
>>
>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx
>>
>> For XP, start by running the Network Setup Wizard on all machines (see
>> caveat in Item A below).
>>
>> Problems sharing files between computers on a network are generally
>> caused
>> by 1) a misconfigured firewall or overlooked firewall (including a
>> stateful
>> firewall in a VPN); or 2) inadvertently running two firewalls such as the
>> built-in Windows Firewall and a third-party firewall; and/or 3) not
>> having
>> identical user accounts and passwords on all Workgroup machines; 4)
>> trying
>> to create shares where the operating system does not permit it.
>>
>> A. Configure firewalls on all machines to allow the Local Area Network
>> (LAN)
>> traffic as trusted. With Windows Firewall, this means allowing
>> File/Printer
>> Sharing on the Exceptions tab. Normally running the Network Setup Wizard
>> on
>> XP will take care of this for those machines.The only "gotcha" is that
>> this
>> will turn on the XPSP2 Windows Firewall. If you aren't running a
>> third-party firewall or have an antivirus with "Internet Worm
>> Protection" (like Norton 2006/07) which acts as a firewall, then you're
>> fine. With third-party firewalls, I usually configure the LAN allowance
>> with an IP range. Ex. would be 192.168.1.0-192.168.1.254. Obviously you
>> would substitute your correct subnet. Do not run more than one firewall.
>> DO
>> NOT TURN OFF FIREWALLS; CONFIGURE THEM CORRECTLY.
>>
>> B. For ease of organization, put all computers in the same Workgroup.
>> This
>> is done from the System applet in Control Panel, Computer Name tab.
>>
>> C. Create matching user accounts and passwords on all machines. You do
>> not
>> need to be logged into the same account on all machines and the passwords
>> assigned to each user account can be different; the accounts/passwords
>> just
>> need to exist and match on all machines. DO NOT NEGLECT TO CREATE
>> PASSWORDS, EVEN IF ONLY SIMPLE ONES. If you wish a machine to boot
>> directly
>> to the Desktop (into one particular user's account) for convenience, you
>> can do this. The instructions at this link work for both XP and Vista:
>>
>> Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) -
>> http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm
>>
>> D. If one or more of the computers is XP Pro or Media Center, turn off
>> Simple File Sharing (Folder Options>View tab).
>>
>> E. Create shares as desired. XP Home does not permit sharing of users'
>> home
>> directories or Program Files, but you can share folders inside those
>> directories. A better choice is to simply use the Shared Documents
>> folder.
>> See the first link above for details about Vista sharing.
>> *****
>>
>> Malke
>> --
>> MS-MVP
>> Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
>> FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ
>>
>>

Stephen Parry wrote:

>
> Malke,
>
> Thanks for your replies. I have gone through the guide step by step and am
> able to share the folder and access the contents. The problem is that when
> I remove the Everyone group I can no longer acces the folder. Does this
> need to be left in. I do not want any other persons viewing this folder as
> it will contain sensitive information.
> I do have a user account on the vista machine and have set a new group
> with me as the only member, but as I said when I remove the Everyone group
> I can no longer access even though my user account as well as the new
> group have permission to access.

What version of XP do you have? If you have XP Home, it only connects to
other computers as Guest. If you have XP Pro or Media Center, disable
Simple File Sharing in Folder Options>View so only permitted user accounts
can access the shared resource.

Normally when you create permissions for users and groups, you don't want
the "Everyone" group in there because this means that everyone can access
that shared resource. Which is not what you want. So you still have
something set up wrong but I can't guess what because information about
your systems and your network is missing.

Vista Identity Management and Access Control - TechNet -
http://tinyurl.com/6fncvr

How to disable Simple Sharing and set permissions on a shared folder in
Windows XP (Pro only)
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=307874

HOW TO: Set, View, Change, or Remove File and Folder Permissions in Windows
XP
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=308418


Malke
--
MS-MVP
Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ

Malke;801268 Wrote:
> Stephen Parry wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> > > Malke,
> > >
> > > Thanks for your replies. I have gone through the guide step by step
> > and am
> > > able to share the folder and access the contents. The problem is that
> > when
> > > I remove the Everyone group I can no longer acces the folder. Does
> > this
> > > need to be left in. I do not want any other persons viewing this
> > folder as
> > > it will contain sensitive information.
> > > I do have a user account on the vista machine and have set a new
> > group
> > > with me as the only member, but as I said when I remove the Everyone
> > group
> > > I can no longer access even though my user account as well as the new
> > > group have permission to access. > >
>
> What version of XP do you have? If you have XP Home, it only connects
> to
> other computers as Guest. If you have XP Pro or Media Center, disable
> Simple File Sharing in Folder Options>View so only permitted user
> accounts
> can access the shared resource.
>
> Normally when you create permissions for users and groups, you don't
> want
> the "Everyone" group in there because this means that everyone can
> access
> that shared resource. Which is not what you want. So you still have
> something set up wrong but I can't guess what because information
> about
> your systems and your network is missing.
>
> Vista Identity Management and Access Control - TechNet -
> 'Overview Series: How to Pilot Windows Vista'
> (http://tinyurl.com/6fncvr)
>
> How to disable Simple Sharing and set permissions on a shared folder
> in
> Windows XP (Pro only)
> 'How to disable simplified sharing and set permissions on a shared
> folder in Windows XP' (http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=307874)
>
> HOW TO: Set, View, Change, or Remove File and Folder Permissions in
> Windows
> XP
> 'The Knowledge Base (KB) Article You Requested Is Currently
> Not Available' (http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=308418)
>
>
> Malke
> --
> MS-MVP
> Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
> FAQ - 'index' (http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ)

Thanks Malke. The laptop I have is running XP Home so there lies the
problem. Thanks for your help and patience.


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steverashi