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New network: Vista to XP SP2 using crossover ethernet

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Old 07-22-2008
arthurwv
 

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New network: Vista to XP SP2 using crossover ethernet
Hello,
I am trying to connect my new Vista to my old XP SP2 using a crossover
cable. I have been to numerous help sites and have changed all the
settings to what is suggested. I have followed PChuck's instructions
to set this up. The computers are not seeing each other. When I ping
from one to the other, it says request timed out. One time, I did see
the XP computer from the Vista computer using Network Map, but could
not access it. I have tried letting each system apply IP addresses
and I've tried assigning each one an IP address.

When I run ipconfig /all >c:\ipconfig.txt on the XP I get:



Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . :
Dellbert Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node
Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid IP Routing
Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . :
NoEthernet adapter Local Area Connection 3: Connection-specific
DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom
440x 10/100 Integrated Controller Physical
Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-DB-0E-61-97 Dhcp
Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration
Enabled . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . :
169.254.250.119 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . :
255.255.0.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :



When I run that on the Vista I get:

Access denied.



What could I be doing wrong? This is driving me crazy.

Andy


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Old 07-22-2008
Robert L. \(MS-MVP\)
 

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Re: New network: Vista to XP SP2 using crossover ethernet
169.254.250.119 could be the problem. You may try to assign static IP on
both computers. In the Vista start, type cmd. right click on the cmd.exe and
select Run as administrator. can you run ipconfig /all >c:\ipconfig.txt now?

--
Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"arthurwv" <pharmdoc8@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ac6038bc-1364-451d-9205-6c4fb63759d7@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> Hello,
> I am trying to connect my new Vista to my old XP SP2 using a crossover
> cable. I have been to numerous help sites and have changed all the
> settings to what is suggested. I have followed PChuck's instructions
> to set this up. The computers are not seeing each other. When I ping
> from one to the other, it says request timed out. One time, I did see
> the XP computer from the Vista computer using Network Map, but could
> not access it. I have tried letting each system apply IP addresses
> and I've tried assigning each one an IP address.
>
> When I run ipconfig /all >c:\ipconfig.txt on the XP I get:
>
>
>
> Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . :
> Dellbert Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node
> Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid IP Routing
> Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . :
> NoEthernet adapter Local Area Connection 3: Connection-specific
> DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom
> 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller Physical
> Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-DB-0E-61-97 Dhcp
> Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration
> Enabled . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . :
> 169.254.250.119 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . :
> 255.255.0.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
>
>
>
> When I run that on the Vista I get:
>
> Access denied.
>
>
>
> What could I be doing wrong? This is driving me crazy.
>
> Andy
>
>


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Old 07-22-2008
Jack \(MVP-Networking\).
 

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Re: New network: Vista to XP SP2 using crossover ethernet
Hi
When you have two computers connect directly with crossover cable you do not
have a DHCP server.
Thus Auto configuration of the TCP/IP doe not work.
You have to configure both computers to a static IP.
http://ask-leo.com/how_do_i_configur...p_address.html
Jack (MS, MVP-Networking)

"arthurwv" <pharmdoc8@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ac6038bc-1364-451d-9205-6c4fb63759d7@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> Hello,
> I am trying to connect my new Vista to my old XP SP2 using a crossover
> cable. I have been to numerous help sites and have changed all the
> settings to what is suggested. I have followed PChuck's instructions
> to set this up. The computers are not seeing each other. When I ping
> from one to the other, it says request timed out. One time, I did see
> the XP computer from the Vista computer using Network Map, but could
> not access it. I have tried letting each system apply IP addresses
> and I've tried assigning each one an IP address.
>
> When I run ipconfig /all >c:\ipconfig.txt on the XP I get:
>
>
>
> Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . :
> Dellbert Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node
> Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid IP Routing
> Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . :
> NoEthernet adapter Local Area Connection 3: Connection-specific
> DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom
> 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller Physical
> Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-DB-0E-61-97 Dhcp
> Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration
> Enabled . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . :
> 169.254.250.119 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . :
> 255.255.0.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
>
>
>
> When I run that on the Vista I get:
>
> Access denied.
>
>
>
> What could I be doing wrong? This is driving me crazy.
>
> Andy
>
>


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Old 07-22-2008
Mick Murphy
 

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Re: New network: Vista to XP SP2 using crossover ethernet
And here is a bit of sharing info!
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx

Have a read of the above link re Vista File and Printer Sharing.

Permissions/Share info is there as well.

If using Norton, McAfee, Trend Micro I.S., make sure file and printer
sharing is enabled in THEIR firewall (or LAN allowed, depending on how their
Exceptions are worded in their Firewall)

1st thing to do is make sure that the Workgroup Name of ALL the computers is
the SAME.

In Vista Network and Sharing:

Network Discovery: ON (So it can see the other computers)

Network set to Private (Public is for hotspots, airports, etc)

File Sharing: ON

Public Folder Sharing: ON (Vista’s Public Folder is the same as XP’s Shared
Docs)

Password Protected: OFF (unless you want to set up identical usernames and
passwords (passwords can be different) on ALL computers in your Network) If
you have it ON, you will be asked for a username and password when you try to
access a Vista computer from an XP computer, or a Vista computer.

Also, run the XP’s Home or Small Office Network File and Printer Sharing
Wizard to include Vista in your “New” Network, even if you had an XP Network
set up prior to adding a Vista computer to it(redoing the Wizard seems to
work for XP machines!).

In “My Network Places”: “Set up a Home or Small Office Network”
OR under Accessories > Communications > Network Setup Wizard > Allow File
and Printer Sharing.

--
Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia


"Jack (MVP-Networking)." wrote:

> Hi
> When you have two computers connect directly with crossover cable you do not
> have a DHCP server.
> Thus Auto configuration of the TCP/IP doe not work.
> You have to configure both computers to a static IP.
> http://ask-leo.com/how_do_i_configur...p_address.html
> Jack (MS, MVP-Networking)
>
> "arthurwv" <pharmdoc8@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ac6038bc-1364-451d-9205-6c4fb63759d7@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> > Hello,
> > I am trying to connect my new Vista to my old XP SP2 using a crossover
> > cable. I have been to numerous help sites and have changed all the
> > settings to what is suggested. I have followed PChuck's instructions
> > to set this up. The computers are not seeing each other. When I ping
> > from one to the other, it says request timed out. One time, I did see
> > the XP computer from the Vista computer using Network Map, but could
> > not access it. I have tried letting each system apply IP addresses
> > and I've tried assigning each one an IP address.
> >
> > When I run ipconfig /all >c:\ipconfig.txt on the XP I get:
> >
> >
> >
> > Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . :
> > Dellbert Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node
> > Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid IP Routing
> > Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . :
> > NoEthernet adapter Local Area Connection 3: Connection-specific
> > DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom
> > 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller Physical
> > Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-DB-0E-61-97 Dhcp
> > Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration
> > Enabled . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . :
> > 169.254.250.119 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . :
> > 255.255.0.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
> >
> >
> >
> > When I run that on the Vista I get:
> >
> > Access denied.
> >
> >
> >
> > What could I be doing wrong? This is driving me crazy.
> >
> > Andy
> >
> >

>
>

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Old 07-22-2008
Mick Murphy
 

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Re: New network: Vista to XP SP2 using crossover ethernet
Sorry Jack! It was for the OP!
--
Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia


"Jack (MVP-Networking)." wrote:

> Hi
> When you have two computers connect directly with crossover cable you do not
> have a DHCP server.
> Thus Auto configuration of the TCP/IP doe not work.
> You have to configure both computers to a static IP.
> http://ask-leo.com/how_do_i_configur...p_address.html
> Jack (MS, MVP-Networking)
>
> "arthurwv" <pharmdoc8@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ac6038bc-1364-451d-9205-6c4fb63759d7@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> > Hello,
> > I am trying to connect my new Vista to my old XP SP2 using a crossover
> > cable. I have been to numerous help sites and have changed all the
> > settings to what is suggested. I have followed PChuck's instructions
> > to set this up. The computers are not seeing each other. When I ping
> > from one to the other, it says request timed out. One time, I did see
> > the XP computer from the Vista computer using Network Map, but could
> > not access it. I have tried letting each system apply IP addresses
> > and I've tried assigning each one an IP address.
> >
> > When I run ipconfig /all >c:\ipconfig.txt on the XP I get:
> >
> >
> >
> > Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . :
> > Dellbert Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node
> > Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid IP Routing
> > Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . :
> > NoEthernet adapter Local Area Connection 3: Connection-specific
> > DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom
> > 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller Physical
> > Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-DB-0E-61-97 Dhcp
> > Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration
> > Enabled . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . :
> > 169.254.250.119 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . :
> > 255.255.0.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
> >
> >
> >
> > When I run that on the Vista I get:
> >
> > Access denied.
> >
> >
> >
> > What could I be doing wrong? This is driving me crazy.
> >
> > Andy
> >
> >

>
>

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Old 07-22-2008
Mick Murphy
 

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RE: New network: Vista to XP SP2 using crossover ethernet
A bit of info about File Sharing between them.
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx

Have a read of the above link re Vista File and Printer Sharing.

Permissions/Share info is there as well.

If using Norton, McAfee, Trend Micro I.S., make sure file and printer
sharing is enabled in THEIR firewall (or LAN allowed, depending on how their
Exceptions are worded in their Firewall)

1st thing to do is make sure that the Workgroup Name of ALL the computers is
the SAME.

In Vista Network and Sharing:

Network Discovery: ON (So it can see the other computers)

Network set to Private (Public is for hotspots, airports, etc)

File Sharing: ON

Public Folder Sharing: ON (Vista’s Public Folder is the same as XP’s Shared
Docs)

Password Protected: OFF (unless you want to set up identical usernames and
passwords (passwords can be different) on ALL computers in your Network) If
you have it ON, you will be asked for a username and password when you try to
access a Vista computer from an XP computer, or a Vista computer.

Also, run the XP’s Home or Small Office Network File and Printer Sharing
Wizard to include Vista in your “New” Network, even if you had an XP Network
set up prior to adding a Vista computer to it(redoing the Wizard seems to
work for XP machines!).

In “My Network Places”: “Set up a Home or Small Office Network”
OR under Accessories > Communications > Network Setup Wizard > Allow File
and Printer Sharing.

--
Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia


"arthurwv" wrote:

> Hello,
> I am trying to connect my new Vista to my old XP SP2 using a crossover
> cable. I have been to numerous help sites and have changed all the
> settings to what is suggested. I have followed PChuck's instructions
> to set this up. The computers are not seeing each other. When I ping
> from one to the other, it says request timed out. One time, I did see
> the XP computer from the Vista computer using Network Map, but could
> not access it. I have tried letting each system apply IP addresses
> and I've tried assigning each one an IP address.
>
> When I run ipconfig /all >c:\ipconfig.txt on the XP I get:
>
>
>
> Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . :
> Dellbert Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node
> Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid IP Routing
> Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . :
> NoEthernet adapter Local Area Connection 3: Connection-specific
> DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom
> 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller Physical
> Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-DB-0E-61-97 Dhcp
> Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration
> Enabled . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . :
> 169.254.250.119 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . :
> 255.255.0.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
>
>
>
> When I run that on the Vista I get:
>
> Access denied.
>
>
>
> What could I be doing wrong? This is driving me crazy.
>
> Andy
>
>
>

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Old 07-23-2008
arthurwv
 

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Re: New network: Vista to XP SP2 using crossover ethernet
OK, I followed the suggestions by everybody. I now can now see my XP
computer listed in the Network folder, however, it is listed as a
media device and when I double click it, it opens media player. When
I run ipconfig /all >c:\ipconfig.txt on Vista I get:


Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : DrAndy-PC
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) 82562V-2 10/100
Network Connection
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1D-09-8B-1E-33
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::acbc:d77a:cc26:d76f
%9(Preferred)
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.198.0.2(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 6:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-
Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 7:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::200:5efe:
192.198.0.2%10(Preferred)
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 9:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft 6to4 Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Temporary IPv6 Address. . . . . . : 2002:c0c6:2::c0c6:2(Preferred)
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled



When I run net config server >c:\netconfig.txt on Vista I get:

Server Name \\DRANDY-PC
Server Comment DrAndy

Software version Windows Vista (TM) Home Premium
Server is active on
NetbiosSmb (DRANDY-PC)
NetBT_Tcpip_{8D4872E8-4E70-4770-9737-C389E85EE955} (DRANDY-PC)


Server hidden No
Maximum Logged On Users 10
Maximum open files per session 16384

Idle session time (min) 15
The command completed successfully.

Computer name \\DRANDY-PC
Full Computer name DrAndy-PC
User name Dr. Andy

Workstation active on
NetbiosSmb (000000000000)
NetBT_Tcpip_{8D4872E8-4E70-4770-9737-C389E85EE955} (001D098B1E33)

Software version Windows Vista (TM) Home Premium

Workstation domain WORKGROUP
Logon domain DrAndy-PC

COM Open Timeout (sec) 0
COM Send Count (byte) 16
COM Send Timeout (msec) 250
The command completed successfully.


I am on the Vista now and will send this reply now. I have to switch
monitor cable and internet connection back to XP to run the
diagnostics.




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Old 07-23-2008
arthurwv
 

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Re: New network: Vista to XP SP2 using crossover ethernet
Now back on XP. I forgot to mention that when I pinged XP from Vista,
it seemed to work fine. Now when I ping Vista from XP, I get the
request timed out.

Here is the result of ipconfig /all >c:\ipconfig.txt:



Windows IP Configuration



Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Dellbert

Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :

Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid

IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No



Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 3:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 440x 10/100
Integrated Controller

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-DB-0E-61-97

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.198.0.1

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

Here is the result of netconfig:

Server Name \\DELLBERT
Server Comment My Computer

Software version Windows 2002
Server is active on
NwlnkIpx (000000000001)
NwlnkNb (000bdb0e6197)
NetbiosSmb (000000000000)
NetBT_Tcpip_{C3587F11-16AE-4A52-B54F-F0D1EEA3CEA6} (000bdb0e6197)


Server hidden No
Maximum Logged On Users 5
Maximum open files per session 16384

Idle session time (min) 15
The command completed successfully.

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