Acces denied from old PC to Vista PC?

Hi forum,

I saw a lot of troubles on this forum but couldn´t solved up till now.

Vista to old PC is working fine.

In the old PC the Vista is visible but when trying to access it is denied as
not allowed access.

I was reading that the C & D drives are by default not accesible?
Is it related to the NFTS-file structure or the UAC???

Could some body give me an answer on it (i am using Vista Home Premium)

Ragards
Huib

It could be the permission in the Security. The below link describe different security level in the Vista.

Vista common issue - can see but access
http://www.chicagotech.net/netforums/viewforum.php?f=3


Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"Huib" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:L7adnYw8rcA0yJnbnZ2dnUVZ8q6unZ2d@scarlet.biz. ..
Hi forum,

I saw a lot of troubles on this forum but couldn´t solved up till now.

Vista to old PC is working fine.

In the old PC the Vista is visible but when trying to access it is denied as
not allowed access.

I was reading that the C & D drives are by default not accesible?
Is it related to the NFTS-file structure or the UAC???

Could some body give me an answer on it (i am using Vista Home Premium)

Ragards
Huib

Hi Robert,
I feel it is the way i have to go but even after reading the related sites i
really don't know how to go further.
The D-drive has full acces for all mentioned users...
Of course have both PC's the same username.
When accessing the Vista PC i got the message that i have to give a password
on the \\Vistanaam\ICPC$

Any further advice is welcome

Regards
Huib
"Robert L [MVP - Networking]" <noreply@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht
news:esRzWUbbHHA.2088@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
It could be the permission in the Security. The below link describe
different security level in the Vista.

Vista common issue - can see but access
http://www.chicagotech.net/netforums/viewforum.php?f=3


Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"Huib" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:L7adnYw8rcA0yJnbnZ2dnUVZ8q6unZ2d@scarlet.biz. ..
Hi forum,

I saw a lot of troubles on this forum but couldn´t solved up till now.

Vista to old PC is working fine.

In the old PC the Vista is visible but when trying to access it is denied as
not allowed access.

I was reading that the C & D drives are by default not accesible?
Is it related to the NFTS-file structure or the UAC???

Could some body give me an answer on it (i am using Vista Home Premium)

Ragards
Huib

I had the same problem and may have have spent 40 hours reading, posting and
experimenting. I finally got it . Microsoft has made a mess out of this. I
think I
got lucky--like finding a needle in a haystack. .

First of all, turn
firewalls off for now. After you get this going you can turn on firewalls
and see if they
affect anything. You need to turn off firewalls on each computer. Then, make
sure all
computers have the same name. I made mine "WORKGROUP" And, file sharing from
Vista can only be done through the administrator. At first I didn't have a
password for
administrator because I didnt want to mess with it, but I added one (through
control
panel) and it got me to the next step. You also want to turn guest account
on. At this point
I could see Vista guest files and folders and public files and folders. But
I couldn't see
my(administrators) folder. My administrators folder is "ED". I could see it
but not gain
access. This is where it got complicated.
Again--absolutely ridiculous what has to be done--a MAJOR flaw of Vista.
Miscrosoft
claims it is for security reasons, but they dont know how to do this either.
The steps they
list DO NOT WORK.

Go to control panel Go to User accounts and family safety Go to Network and
Internet Go
to View Network computers You will see all computers on your network Click
on your
Vista computer Right click on the C drive folder and click share Click
security add
"Guest" as group or user name give guest all permission even though it might
tell you
there are errors etc. go back and repeat with the Admin folder (whatever you
called it),
the User folder and the Documents folder.

You may have to download the following on your XP. I did but do not know if
it was
necessary...

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en

Let me know
Good luck
Ed

"Huib" wrote:

> Hi Robert,
> I feel it is the way i have to go but even after reading the related sites i
> really don't know how to go further.
> The D-drive has full acces for all mentioned users...
> Of course have both PC's the same username.
> When accessing the Vista PC i got the message that i have to give a password
> on the \\Vistanaam\ICPC$
>
> Any further advice is welcome
>
> Regards
> Huib
> "Robert L [MVP - Networking]" <noreply@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht
> news:esRzWUbbHHA.2088@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> It could be the permission in the Security. The below link describe
> different security level in the Vista.
>
> Vista common issue - can see but access
> http://www.chicagotech.net/netforums/viewforum.php?f=3
>
>
> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
> http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
> http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> "Huib" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:L7adnYw8rcA0yJnbnZ2dnUVZ8q6unZ2d@scarlet.biz. ..
> Hi forum,
>
> I saw a lot of troubles on this forum but couldn´t solved up till now.
>
> Vista to old PC is working fine.
>
> In the old PC the Vista is visible but when trying to access it is denied as
> not allowed access.
>
> I was reading that the C & D drives are by default not accesible?
> Is it related to the NFTS-file structure or the UAC???
>
> Could some body give me an answer on it (i am using Vista Home Premium)
>
> Ragards
> Huib
>
>

Thank you for the inputs.

Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"Ed43" <Ed43@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:C0E9196C-D751-4468-8CCF-3638C7BD0AC0@microsoft.com...
I had the same problem and may have have spent 40 hours reading, posting and
experimenting. I finally got it . Microsoft has made a mess out of this. I
think I
got lucky--like finding a needle in a haystack. .

First of all, turn
firewalls off for now. After you get this going you can turn on firewalls
and see if they
affect anything. You need to turn off firewalls on each computer. Then, make
sure all
computers have the same name. I made mine "WORKGROUP" And, file sharing from
Vista can only be done through the administrator. At first I didn't have a
password for
administrator because I didnt want to mess with it, but I added one (through
control
panel) and it got me to the next step. You also want to turn guest account
on. At this point
I could see Vista guest files and folders and public files and folders. But
I couldn't see
my(administrators) folder. My administrators folder is "ED". I could see it
but not gain
access. This is where it got complicated.
Again--absolutely ridiculous what has to be done--a MAJOR flaw of Vista.
Miscrosoft
claims it is for security reasons, but they dont know how to do this either.
The steps they
list DO NOT WORK.

Go to control panel Go to User accounts and family safety Go to Network and
Internet Go
to View Network computers You will see all computers on your network Click
on your
Vista computer Right click on the C drive folder and click share Click
security add
"Guest" as group or user name give guest all permission even though it might
tell you
there are errors etc. go back and repeat with the Admin folder (whatever you
called it),
the User folder and the Documents folder.

You may have to download the following on your XP. I did but do not know if
it was
necessary...

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en

Let me know
Good luck
Ed

"Huib" wrote:

> Hi Robert,
> I feel it is the way i have to go but even after reading the related sites i
> really don't know how to go further.
> The D-drive has full acces for all mentioned users...
> Of course have both PC's the same username.
> When accessing the Vista PC i got the message that i have to give a password
> on the \\Vistanaam\ICPC$
>
> Any further advice is welcome
>
> Regards
> Huib
> "Robert L [MVP - Networking]" <noreply@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht
> news:esRzWUbbHHA.2088@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> It could be the permission in the Security. The below link describe
> different security level in the Vista.
>
> Vista common issue - can see but access
> http://www.chicagotech.net/netforums/viewforum.php?f=3
>
>
> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
> http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
> http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> "Huib" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:L7adnYw8rcA0yJnbnZ2dnUVZ8q6unZ2d@scarlet.biz. ..
> Hi forum,
>
> I saw a lot of troubles on this forum but couldn´t solved up till now.
>
> Vista to old PC is working fine.
>
> In the old PC the Vista is visible but when trying to access it is denied as
> not allowed access.
>
> I was reading that the C & D drives are by default not accesible?
> Is it related to the NFTS-file structure or the UAC???
>
> Could some body give me an answer on it (i am using Vista Home Premium)
>
> Ragards
> Huib
>
>

Post back with the result of icacls may help.

How to: check permissions using Vista icacls command
http://www.chicagotech.net/netforums/viewforum.php?f=4

Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"Huib" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:uokA2CgbHHA.4312@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
Hi Robert,
I feel it is the way i have to go but even after reading the related sites i
really don't know how to go further.
The D-drive has full acces for all mentioned users...
Of course have both PC's the same username.
When accessing the Vista PC i got the message that i have to give a password
on the \\Vistanaam\ICPC$

Any further advice is welcome

Regards
Huib
"Robert L [MVP - Networking]" <noreply@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht
news:esRzWUbbHHA.2088@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
It could be the permission in the Security. The below link describe
different security level in the Vista.

Vista common issue - can see but access
http://www.chicagotech.net/netforums/viewforum.php?f=3


Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"Huib" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:L7adnYw8rcA0yJnbnZ2dnUVZ8q6unZ2d@scarlet.biz. ..
Hi forum,

I saw a lot of troubles on this forum but couldn´t solved up till now.

Vista to old PC is working fine.

In the old PC the Vista is visible but when trying to access it is denied as
not allowed access.

I was reading that the C & D drives are by default not accesible?
Is it related to the NFTS-file structure or the UAC???

Could some body give me an answer on it (i am using Vista Home Premium)

Ragards
Huib

Hallo Ed & Robert
I am using Home Premium which might be a little different.
Nevertheless i succeeded to add the guestuser and give him full access.
Also the admin folder is added (user & document folder i didn't find).
The icals command didn't work but when using NET View \\vistanaam i see the
PC name on the other PC. Only when accing it i receive no acces permitted.

Further help is welcome, very frustating!!!

Regards
Huib

"Ed43" <Ed43@discussions.microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
news:C0E9196C-D751-4468-8CCF-3638C7BD0AC0@microsoft.com...
>I had the same problem and may have have spent 40 hours reading, posting
>and
> experimenting. I finally got it . Microsoft has made a mess out of this. I
> think I
> got lucky--like finding a needle in a haystack. .
>
> First of all, turn
> firewalls off for now. After you get this going you can turn on firewalls
> and see if they
> affect anything. You need to turn off firewalls on each computer. Then,
> make
> sure all
> computers have the same name. I made mine "WORKGROUP" And, file sharing
> from
> Vista can only be done through the administrator. At first I didn't have a
> password for
> administrator because I didnt want to mess with it, but I added one
> (through
> control
> panel) and it got me to the next step. You also want to turn guest account
> on. At this point
> I could see Vista guest files and folders and public files and folders.
> But
> I couldn't see
> my(administrators) folder. My administrators folder is "ED". I could see
> it
> but not gain
> access. This is where it got complicated.
> Again--absolutely ridiculous what has to be done--a MAJOR flaw of Vista.
> Miscrosoft
> claims it is for security reasons, but they dont know how to do this
> either.
> The steps they
> list DO NOT WORK.
>
> Go to control panel Go to User accounts and family safety Go to Network
> and
> Internet Go
> to View Network computers You will see all computers on your network Click
> on your
> Vista computer Right click on the C drive folder and click share Click
> security add
> "Guest" as group or user name give guest all permission even though it
> might
> tell you
> there are errors etc. go back and repeat with the Admin folder (whatever
> you
> called it),
> the User folder and the Documents folder.
>
> You may have to download the following on your XP. I did but do not know
> if
> it was
> necessary...
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en
>
> Let me know
> Good luck
> Ed
>
> "Huib" wrote:
>
>> Hi Robert,
>> I feel it is the way i have to go but even after reading the related
>> sites i
>> really don't know how to go further.
>> The D-drive has full acces for all mentioned users...
>> Of course have both PC's the same username.
>> When accessing the Vista PC i got the message that i have to give a
>> password
>> on the \\Vistanaam\ICPC$
>>
>> Any further advice is welcome
>>
>> Regards
>> Huib
>> "Robert L [MVP - Networking]" <noreply@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht
>> news:esRzWUbbHHA.2088@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> It could be the permission in the Security. The below link describe
>> different security level in the Vista.
>>
>> Vista common issue - can see but access
>> http://www.chicagotech.net/netforums/viewforum.php?f=3
>>
>>
>> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
>> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
>> http://www.ChicagoTech.net
>> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
>> http://www.HowToNetworking.com
>> "Huib" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:L7adnYw8rcA0yJnbnZ2dnUVZ8q6unZ2d@scarlet.biz. ..
>> Hi forum,
>>
>> I saw a lot of troubles on this forum but couldn´t solved up till now.
>>
>> Vista to old PC is working fine.
>>
>> In the old PC the Vista is visible but when trying to access it is denied
>> as
>> not allowed access.
>>
>> I was reading that the C & D drives are by default not accesible?
>> Is it related to the NFTS-file structure or the UAC???
>>
>> Could some body give me an answer on it (i am using Vista Home Premium)
>>
>> Ragards
>> Huib
>>
>>

Vista home Premuim
Here is what I have on my network

Linsoire Linux, Mandrake Linux, Win2k Serv Pk4, WinXP Home, WinXP Pro, Win 3.11
None of the above could see the vista or vista see them until I enabled the netbios over tcp/ip
Am I correct in assuming that this cercumvents the ipv6 option in vista and is there a fix for this?

Chuck
"Robert L [MVP - Networking]" <noreply@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:esRzWUbbHHA.2088@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
It could be the permission in the Security. The below link describe different security level in the Vista.

Vista common issue - can see but access
http://www.chicagotech.net/netforums/viewforum.php?f=3


Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"Huib" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:L7adnYw8rcA0yJnbnZ2dnUVZ8q6unZ2d@scarlet.biz. ..
Hi forum,

I saw a lot of troubles on this forum but couldn´t solved up till now.

Vista to old PC is working fine.

In the old PC the Vista is visible but when trying to access it is denied as
not allowed access.

I was reading that the C & D drives are by default not accesible?
Is it related to the NFTS-file structure or the UAC???

Could some body give me an answer on it (i am using Vista Home Premium)

Ragards
Huib

Hallo,
I tried mostly everthing what is on the forum mentioned but still without any succes.
I can't give you any comments on it.
An expert told me that it can be for reason that the old machine is a Fat32 and that for any reason it is not comptible with NFTS.
On the other hand i can move files from the Vista all files from the old machine (copy/past) although the old PC isn't able to access the Vista (but it does see it)?

Regards
Huib
"Chuck" <chuck.bayless@gmail.com> schreef in bericht news:CF67CA70-598B-4260-96F2-BE46BDD50318@microsoft.com...
Vista home Premuim
Here is what I have on my network

Linsoire Linux, Mandrake Linux, Win2k Serv Pk4, WinXP Home, WinXP Pro, Win 3.11
None of the above could see the vista or vista see them until I enabled the netbios over tcp/ip
Am I correct in assuming that this cercumvents the ipv6 option in vista and is there a fix for this?

Chuck
"Robert L [MVP - Networking]" <noreply@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:esRzWUbbHHA.2088@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
It could be the permission in the Security. The below link describe different security level in the Vista.

Vista common issue - can see but access
http://www.chicagotech.net/netforums/viewforum.php?f=3


Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"Huib" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:L7adnYw8rcA0yJnbnZ2dnUVZ8q6unZ2d@scarlet.biz. ..
Hi forum,

I saw a lot of troubles on this forum but couldn´t solved up till now.

Vista to old PC is working fine.

In the old PC the Vista is visible but when trying to access it is denied as
not allowed access.

I was reading that the C & D drives are by default not accesible?
Is it related to the NFTS-file structure or the UAC???

Could some body give me an answer on it (i am using Vista Home Premium)

Ragards
Huib