vista sharing problems...

hello
In my lan I have 3 pc

|
|__ vista (with password sharing)
|__ vista (without password sharing)
|
|___ xp sp3


from the two vista I can't see the pc with xp, but pc anywhere works !
from vista with password sharing I can't access to vista without
password sharing (request username and password, I type the username but
the pc doesn't have any password and I get access denied)
from xp I can't see all vista...

Any idea ?

Hi howdy,

The reson you cannot see any vista pcs from your xp computers are the
fac that windows xp doesnt have LLTD patch installed. You need to
download it and install it on your windows XP computer. you can
donwnload it from the following link
'Download details: Link Layer Topology Discovery (LLTD) Responder
(KB922120)'
(http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en)

the password problem can be resolved by going to the computer you want
to access from, go to start, control panel, then select clasic mode,
then select user accounts,
then on the left side of your screen you should see something stated as
manage network passwords, click that, then say add and add the
apropriate username & password. this should allow you to access.

Hope this helps

Cheers !!

howdy;717356 Wrote:
> hello
> In my lan I have 3 pc
>
> |
> |__ vista (with password sharing)
> |__ vista (without password sharing)
> |
> |___ xp sp3
>
>
> from the two vista I can't see the pc with xp, but pc anywhere works !
> from vista with password sharing I can't access to vista without
> password sharing (request username and password, I type the username
> but
> the pc doesn't have any password and I get access denied)
> from xp I can't see all vista...
>
> Any idea ?


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-MCTS,MCITP)-
-Systems -::-Engineer / Consultant Trainer- ::

Thankyou, but the patch in xp tell me that service pack 3 is installed
and don't need that patch...
If I add a password in vista I must type the pass every time I turn on
windows, right ?

Thankyou

Hi
Successful Sharing involves some general consideration in Network settings,
http://www.ezlan.net/sharing.html
As well as specific adjustment of each computer according to what it is
allowed to be shared.
Vista File and Printer Sharing-
http://www.microsoft.com/techn...evaluate/vista_fp.mspx
Windows XP File Sharing -
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;304040
Printer Sharing XP -
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...utt_july2.mspx
Windows Native Firewall setting for Sharing XP -
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875357
Windows XP patch for Sharing with Vista -
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922120
Jack (MVP-Networking).

"howdy" <captain.howdy@nospam.libero.it> wrote in message
news:e7LifkpuIHA.4876@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> hello
> In my lan I have 3 pc
>
> |
> |__ vista (with password sharing)
> |__ vista (without password sharing)
> |
> |___ xp sp3
>
>
> from the two vista I can't see the pc with xp, but pc anywhere works !
> from vista with password sharing I can't access to vista without password
> sharing (request username and password, I type the username but the pc
> doesn't have any password and I get access denied)
> from xp I can't see all vista...
>
> Any idea ?

On Tue, 20 May 2008 12:49:02 -0500, john_cena
<guest@unknown-email.com> wrote:
>> hello
>> In my lan I have 3 pc
>>
>> |
>> |__ vista (with password sharing)
>> |__ vista (without password sharing)
>> |
>> |___ xp sp3
>>
>> from the two vista I can't see the pc with xp, but pc anywhere works !
>> from vista with password sharing I can't access to vista without
>> password sharing (request username and password, I type the username
>> but
>> the pc doesn't have any password and I get access denied)
>> from xp I can't see all vista...
>>
>> Any idea ?
>
>Hi howdy,
>
>The reson you cannot see any vista pcs from your xp computers are the
>fac that windows xp doesnt have LLTD patch installed. You need to
>download it and install it on your windows XP computer. you can
>donwnload it from the following link
>'Download details: Link Layer Topology Discovery (LLTD) Responder
>(KB922120)'
>(http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en)

It's not necessary to install the LLTD Responder on XP. XP and Vista
can see each other and share files without it: in XP's "My Network
Places", Vista's "Network", or by typing another computer's name in
the Start > Run box in this format:

\\computer

The only reason to install the LLTD Responder on XP is to allow an XP
computer to appear in Vista's graphical "Network Map".
--
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Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

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http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Have a read re network settings, and XP's Network wizard!

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx

Have a read of the above link re Vista File and Printer Sharing.

Permissions/Share info is there as well.

If using Norton, McAfee, Trend Micro I.S., make sure file and printer
sharing is enabled in THEIR firewall .(LAN allowed)

1st thing to do is make sure that the Workgroup Name of ALL the computers is
the SAME.

In Vista Network and Sharing:

Network Discovery: ON (So it can see the other computers)

Network set to Private (Public is for hotspots, airports, etc)

File Sharing: ON

Public Folder Sharing: ON (Vista’s Public Folder is the same as XP’s Shared
Docs)

Password Protected: OFF (unless you want to set up identical usernames, and
passwords (they can be different) on ALL computers in your Network). If you
have it ON, you will be asked for a username and password when you try to
access a Vista computer from an XP computer, or a Vista Computer.

Also, If you haven’t done so already, run XP’s Network Setup Wizard (in
Start >All Programs >Accessories >Communications), and tell the Wizard to
enable File and Printer Sharing.
Or > Start > Control Panel > Network Connections > Set up a Home or Small
Office Network.

--
Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia


"howdy" wrote:

> hello
> In my lan I have 3 pc
>
> |
> |__ vista (with password sharing)
> |__ vista (without password sharing)
> |
> |___ xp sp3
>
>
> from the two vista I can't see the pc with xp, but pc anywhere works !
> from vista with password sharing I can't access to vista without
> password sharing (request username and password, I type the username but
> the pc doesn't have any password and I get access denied)
> from xp I can't see all vista...
>
> Any idea ?
>

I try to do anything but doesn't work.. :-( the only way to get the two
pc on network is the file transfer from pc anywhere...

Mick Murphy ha scritto:
> Have a read re network settings, and XP's Network wizard!
>
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx
>
> Have a read of the above link re Vista File and Printer Sharing.
>
> Permissions/Share info is there as well.
>
> If using Norton, McAfee, Trend Micro I.S., make sure file and printer
> sharing is enabled in THEIR firewall .(LAN allowed)
>
> 1st thing to do is make sure that the Workgroup Name of ALL the computers is
> the SAME.
>
> In Vista Network and Sharing:
>
> Network Discovery: ON (So it can see the other computers)
>
> Network set to Private (Public is for hotspots, airports, etc)
>
> File Sharing: ON
>
> Public Folder Sharing: ON (Vista’s Public Folder is the same as XP’s Shared
> Docs)
>
> Password Protected: OFF (unless you want to set up identical usernames, and
> passwords (they can be different) on ALL computers in your Network). If you
> have it ON, you will be asked for a username and password when you try to
> access a Vista computer from an XP computer, or a Vista Computer.
>
> Also, If you haven’t done so already, run XP’s Network Setup Wizard (in
> Start >All Programs >Accessories >Communications), and tell the Wizard to
> enable File and Printer Sharing.
> Or > Start > Control Panel > Network Connections > Set up a Home or Small
> Office Network.
>

howdy wrote:

> I try to do anything but doesn't work.. :-( the only way to get the two
> pc on network is the file transfer from pc anywhere...

If you really have tried everything that has been suggested - and it is
rather a lot of work so forgive me if I'm skeptical that you actually did
this - then you should get a computer professional on-site to set you up.
It will only take a few minutes.

Otherwise, make sure you create the matching user accounts *and* passwords
as detailed in Step C. below.

Problems sharing files between computers on a network are generally caused
by 1) a misconfigured firewall; or 2) inadvertently running two firewalls
such as the built-in Windows Firewall and a third-party firewall; and/or 3)
not having identical user accounts and passwords on all Workgroup machines;
4) trying to create shares where the operating system does not permit it.

A. Configure firewalls on all machines to allow the Local Area Network (LAN)
traffic as trusted. With Windows Firewall, this means allowing File/Printer
Sharing on the Exceptions tab. Normally running the Network Setup Wizard on
XP will take care of this for those machines.The only "gotcha" is that this
will turn on the XPSP2 Windows Firewall. If you aren't running a
third-party firewall or have an antivirus with "Internet Worm
Protection" (like Norton 2006/07) which acts as a firewall, then you're
fine. With third-party firewalls, I usually configure the LAN allowance
with an IP range. Ex. would be 192.168.1.0-192.168.1.254. Obviously you
would substitute your correct subnet. Do not run more than one firewall.

B. For ease of organization, put all computers in the same Workgroup. This
is done from the System applet in Control Panel, Computer Name tab.

C. Create matching user accounts and passwords on all machines. You do not
need to be logged into the same account on all machines and the passwords
assigned to each user account can be different; the accounts/passwords just
need to exist and match on all machines. If you wish a machine to boot
directly to the Desktop (into one particular user's account) for
convenience, you can do this. The instructions at this link work for both
XP and Vista:

Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) -
http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm

D. If one or more of the computers is XP Pro or Media Center, turn off
Simple File Sharing (Folder Options>View tab).

If firewalls are properly configured, matching usernames/passwords exist,
and shares are created with correct permissions, you will be able to share
files and printers.

Malke
--
MS-MVP
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
Don't Panic!

Hi Malke, thankyou very much.
I've solved the problem upgrading to vista the xp computer.