new Vista PC; attaching to non-standard XP network

I just bought a new Vista laptop, and would like to connect it to my
sort-of-operating XP network. I have named the network correctly, and
entered the proper workgroup name, and now when I show the Network, the Vista
machine shows itself and the router. The problem is, the router is NOT the
Internet gateway; my old XP laptop is, and neither the old laptop nor the
desktop which have IP addresses below that of the router appear in the
Network display, and I cannot access the Internet because the Vista machine
can't see the gateway, even when I force the proper IP addresses into the
appropriate locations in the Vista machine. I also can't use the printers
which are on the system.

HELP!

Judy

Try setting it up properly.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx

Have a read of the above link re Vista File and Printer Sharing.

Permissions/Share info is there as well.

If using Norton, McAfee, Trend Micro I.S., make sure file and printer
sharing is enabled in THEIR firewall .(LAN allowed)

1st thing to do is make sure that the Workgroup Name of ALL the computers is
the SAME.

In Vista Network and Sharing:

Network Discovery: ON (So it can see the other computers)

Network set to Private (Public is for hotspots, airports, etc)

File Sharing: ON

Public Folder Sharing: ON (Vista’s Public Folder is the same as XP’s Shared
Docs)

Password Protected: OFF (unless you want to set up identical usernames, and
passwords (they can be different) on ALL computers in your Network). If you
have it ON, you will be asked for a username and password when you try to
access a Vista computer from an XP computer, or a Vista Computer.

Also, If you haven’t done so already, run XP’s Network Setup Wizard (in
Start >All Programs >Accessories >Communications), and tell the Wizard to
enable File and Printer Sharing.
Or > Start > Control Panel > Network Connections > Set up a Home or Small
Office Network.

--
Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia


"natashakat" wrote:

> I just bought a new Vista laptop, and would like to connect it to my
> sort-of-operating XP network. I have named the network correctly, and
> entered the proper workgroup name, and now when I show the Network, the Vista
> machine shows itself and the router. The problem is, the router is NOT the
> Internet gateway; my old XP laptop is, and neither the old laptop nor the
> desktop which have IP addresses below that of the router appear in the
> Network display, and I cannot access the Internet because the Vista machine
> can't see the gateway, even when I force the proper IP addresses into the
> appropriate locations in the Vista machine. I also can't use the printers
> which are on the system.
>
> HELP!
>
> Judy

"natashakat" <natashakat@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0B966236-0524-440C-A765-864BC1015CED@microsoft.com...
>I just bought a new Vista laptop, and would like to connect it to my
> sort-of-operating XP network. I have named the network correctly, and
> entered the proper workgroup name, and now when I show the Network, the
> Vista
> machine shows itself and the router. The problem is, the router is NOT
> the
> Internet gateway; my old XP laptop is,

If you have a proper router, why not buy a hub and connect both machines to
that instead.....then both machines will connect to the internet
independently of each other...

Hi natashakat,

You also need to download & install Link Layer Topology Discovery
(LLTD) Responder for windows XP in order for your vista pc to find your
XP computers. download from the following link

'Download details: Link Layer Topology Discovery (LLTD) Responder
(KB922120)'
(http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en)

Hope this Helps

Cheers !!


--
john_cena

-Shihan Sylvester Pietersz-
-(MCP,MCSA,MCSE+Security,MCSE+Messeging-
-MCTS,MCITP)-
-Systems -::-Engineer / Consultant Trainer- ::

One word: Dial-up. The modem is in the old laptop, which perforce MUST be
the gateway at 192.168.0.1. My best connect speed is 38 kbps....(*sigh*)

"Gordon" wrote:

> "natashakat" <natashakat@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:0B966236-0524-440C-A765-864BC1015CED@microsoft.com...
> >I just bought a new Vista laptop, and would like to connect it to my
> > sort-of-operating XP network. I have named the network correctly, and
> > entered the proper workgroup name, and now when I show the Network, the
> > Vista
> > machine shows itself and the router. The problem is, the router is NOT
> > the
> > Internet gateway; my old XP laptop is,
>
> If you have a proper router, why not buy a hub and connect both machines to
> that instead.....then both machines will connect to the internet
> independently of each other...
>
>

I downloaded the file, and when I attempted to install, my XP computer told
me that since I had SP3, the file had already been installed, and I didn't
need it again.

"john_cena" wrote:

>
> Hi natashakat,
>
> You also need to download & install Link Layer Topology Discovery
> (LLTD) Responder for windows XP in order for your vista pc to find your
> XP computers. download from the following link
>
> 'Download details: Link Layer Topology Discovery (LLTD) Responder
> (KB922120)'
> (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en)
>
> Hope this Helps
>
> Cheers !!
>
>
> --
> john_cena
>
> -Shihan Sylvester Pietersz-
> -(MCP,MCSA,MCSE+Security,MCSE+Messeging-
> -MCTS,MCITP)-
> -Systems -::-Engineer / Consultant Trainer- ::
>

hi natashakat,

Try the followng. on your vista computers network settings click
properties, select TCP/Ip, then select advance, the add the defult
gateway as your windows XP computer that is sharing the internet. If
this doesnt work please past ipconfig /all of your vista &xp computer.

Hope this helps

Cheers !!


--
john_cena

-Shihan Sylvester Pietersz-
-(MCP,MCSA,MCSE+Security,MCSE+Messeging-
-MCTS,MCITP)-
-Systems -::-Engineer / Consultant Trainer- ::

The gateway computer was already specified in TCP/IP; I didn't need to
re-enter it. So where do I look for this "ipconfig" and what information
does it contain?

"john_cena" wrote:

>
> hi natashakat,
>
> Try the followng. on your vista computers network settings click
> properties, select TCP/Ip, then select advance, the add the defult
> gateway as your windows XP computer that is sharing the internet. If
> this doesnt work please past ipconfig /all of your vista &xp computer.
>
> Hope this helps
>
> Cheers !!
>
>
> --
> john_cena
>
> -Shihan Sylvester Pietersz-
> -(MCP,MCSA,MCSE+Security,MCSE+Messeging-
> -MCTS,MCITP)-
> -Systems -::-Engineer / Consultant Trainer- ::
>

Open up a terminal session (AKA commandline session or DOS window)

At the prompt, type in the word "ipconfig"



natashakat wrote:
> The gateway computer was already specified in TCP/IP; I didn't need to
> re-enter it. So where do I look for this "ipconfig" and what information
> does it contain?
>
> "john_cena" wrote:
>
>> hi natashakat,
>>
>> Try the followng. on your vista computers network settings click
>> properties, select TCP/Ip, then select advance, the add the defult
>> gateway as your windows XP computer that is sharing the internet. If
>> this doesnt work please past ipconfig /all of your vista &xp computer.
>>
>> Hope this helps
>>
>> Cheers !!
>>
>>
>> --
>> john_cena
>>
>> -Shihan Sylvester Pietersz-
>> -(MCP,MCSA,MCSE+Security,MCSE+Messeging-
>> -MCTS,MCITP)-
>> -Systems -::-Engineer / Consultant Trainer- ::
>>

Okay, here are ipconfig listings of all three computers:

#1 Laptop running XP, this one has the telephone connection:

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS suffix:
IP address: 192.169.0.1
Subnet mask: 255.255.255.0
Default gateway:

PPP adapter Toast:
Connection-specific DNS suffix:
IP address: 4.244.117.184
Subnet mask: 255.255.255.255
Default Gateway: 4.244.117.184

Computer #2 Desktop running XP:

Ethernet Adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS suffix:
IP Address: 192.168.0.10
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 192.168.0.1

Computer #3 Laptop running Vista (this is the problem child)

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix:
Link Local IPv6 address: fe80::75d2:c461:9fff:fb8d%10
IPv4 address: 192.168.0.3
Subnet mask: 255.255.255.0
Default gateway: 192.168.0.1

There are three other listings:
Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 6, 7, and 12 all "Media disconnected"

The reason that there are such disparate IP addresses for the computers is
that there have been successive computers between, and the system would not
accept a new computer with the same name even if the old one was
disconnected, so I also issued new IP addresses.

"john_cena" wrote:

>
> hi natashakat,
>
> Try the followng. on your vista computers network settings click
> properties, select TCP/Ip, then select advance, the add the defult
> gateway as your windows XP computer that is sharing the internet. If
> this doesnt work please past ipconfig /all of your vista &xp computer.
>
> Hope this helps
>
> Cheers !!
>
>
> --
> john_cena
>
> -Shihan Sylvester Pietersz-
> -(MCP,MCSA,MCSE+Security,MCSE+Messeging-
> -MCTS,MCITP)-
> -Systems -::-Engineer / Consultant Trainer- ::
>