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Old 03-16-2007
tsetsefly
 

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Vista and XP machine network issues

I had 2 XP machines hooked up to a router and ADSL internet connection.

Since replacing one of the XP machines with a VISTA 64 machine (not an
upgrade), I am seeing some network issues. There were no problems with
network or internet connections when there were just 2 XP machines
connected to the router.

Now:
Both machines (XP machine and VISTA machine) are in the same workgroup.
Both machines can ping each other
There is a printer connected to the XP machine, the VISTA machine can
use that printer through the network.

Issue #1 (XP machine does not show up in the network view of the VISTA
machine)
1) XP machine can see the vista machine in network view
2) VISTA machine can see the XP machine for a couple seconds when first
entering the network view then the XP machine does not not show up
anymore within the VISTA network view.

I would like to be able to see the XP machine and shares from the VISTA
machine.


Issue #2 (VISTA machine is limiting the internet access to the XP
machine)
1) If the VISTA machine goes into sleep mode the XP machine loses the
internet connection
2) If the VISTA machine reboots, the XP machine will lose internet
connection while the VISTA machine is booting

Somehow the VISTA machine is controlling the internet connection, how
can this "control" be removed. I don't want the VISTA machine status
to effect the internet connection of the XP machine. Is the VISTA
machine taking control of the router somehow when it is on ? For
example with the VISTA in sleep mode and the XP machine cannot access
the internet, if I unplug the LAN cable from the sleeping VISTA machine
then the XP machine can access the internet.

Thanks for any help !


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Old 03-16-2007
Robert L [MVP - Networking]
 

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Re: Vista and XP machine network issues
Have you installed LLTD? This link may help,

Troubleshoot problems computers not appearing on Network Map
http://www.chicagotech.net/netforums/viewforum.php?f=1

Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"tsetsefly" <tsetsefly.2niiwx@no-mx.forums.net> wrote in message news:tsetsefly.2niiwx@no-mx.forums.net...

I had 2 XP machines hooked up to a router and ADSL internet connection.

Since replacing one of the XP machines with a VISTA 64 machine (not an
upgrade), I am seeing some network issues. There were no problems with
network or internet connections when there were just 2 XP machines
connected to the router.

Now:
Both machines (XP machine and VISTA machine) are in the same workgroup.
Both machines can ping each other
There is a printer connected to the XP machine, the VISTA machine can
use that printer through the network.

Issue #1 (XP machine does not show up in the network view of the VISTA
machine)
1) XP machine can see the vista machine in network view
2) VISTA machine can see the XP machine for a couple seconds when first
entering the network view then the XP machine does not not show up
anymore within the VISTA network view.

I would like to be able to see the XP machine and shares from the VISTA
machine.


Issue #2 (VISTA machine is limiting the internet access to the XP
machine)
1) If the VISTA machine goes into sleep mode the XP machine loses the
internet connection
2) If the VISTA machine reboots, the XP machine will lose internet
connection while the VISTA machine is booting

Somehow the VISTA machine is controlling the internet connection, how
can this "control" be removed. I don't want the VISTA machine status
to effect the internet connection of the XP machine. Is the VISTA
machine taking control of the router somehow when it is on ? For
example with the VISTA in sleep mode and the XP machine cannot access
the internet, if I unplug the LAN cable from the sleeping VISTA machine
then the XP machine can access the internet.

Thanks for any help !


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Old 03-19-2007
Michael A. Bishop \(MSFT\)
 

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Re: Vista and XP machine network issues
The first sounds like a discovery issue, but I'm surprised that the machine
shows up briefly -- I would expect it to either show up and stay, or not
show up at all. You might check whether you accidentally typed something in
the Search box -- Search filters the current view, so as machines that don't
mach the search are discovered, they will appear then disappear once
filtered out.

Assuming it's an actual discovery issue, LLTD is not the problem. LLTD
makes machines appear in the Network Map (NSC > View Full Map), not the
Network Explorer. Check that you have Network Discovery and File Sharing
enabled, and that File and Print Sharing are enabled through your firewall.

For the second, I honestly have no clue why in the world that would happen.
If your Vista machine were using ICS to be the router for the XP box, it
would make sense; since you have a separate router, it's just strange. Can
you access the router's config page while the Vista box is down?

"tsetsefly" <tsetsefly.2niiwx@no-mx.forums.net> a écrit dans le message de
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>
> I had 2 XP machines hooked up to a router and ADSL internet connection.
>
> Since replacing one of the XP machines with a VISTA 64 machine (not an
> upgrade), I am seeing some network issues. There were no problems with
> network or internet connections when there were just 2 XP machines
> connected to the router.
>
> Now:
> Both machines (XP machine and VISTA machine) are in the same workgroup.
> Both machines can ping each other
> There is a printer connected to the XP machine, the VISTA machine can
> use that printer through the network.
>
> Issue #1 (XP machine does not show up in the network view of the VISTA
> machine)
> 1) XP machine can see the vista machine in network view
> 2) VISTA machine can see the XP machine for a couple seconds when first
> entering the network view then the XP machine does not not show up
> anymore within the VISTA network view.
>
> I would like to be able to see the XP machine and shares from the VISTA
> machine.
>
>
> Issue #2 (VISTA machine is limiting the internet access to the XP
> machine)
> 1) If the VISTA machine goes into sleep mode the XP machine loses the
> internet connection
> 2) If the VISTA machine reboots, the XP machine will lose internet
> connection while the VISTA machine is booting
>
> Somehow the VISTA machine is controlling the internet connection, how
> can this "control" be removed. I don't want the VISTA machine status
> to effect the internet connection of the XP machine. Is the VISTA
> machine taking control of the router somehow when it is on ? For
> example with the VISTA in sleep mode and the XP machine cannot access
> the internet, if I unplug the LAN cable from the sleeping VISTA machine
> then the XP machine can access the internet.
>
> Thanks for any help !
>
>
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