Vista and XP network - computers can't see each other

Hi all,

I have a home office network with one new Dell laptop with Windows Vista
Home Basic which I bought a couple of weeks ago, one desktop with Windows XP
Pro and one older laptop with Windows XP Pro. The laptops are connected
wirelessly, the desktop is using a wired Ethernet connection.

Obviously, there have been never a problem with XP machines. Initially, the
Vista machine was also able to connect to everybody else. I didn't even
bother to look at the settings because everything worked. Then I went to a
business trip, and connected to other networks, including wireless public
ones in the airports. When I came back, I was unable to share files or even
see other computers on the LAN. The internet connection is working fine
though. Oh yes, and I also installed a couple of updates, probably some of
those constituting Service Pack 1 as well.

When I checked the network, to my surprise, it turned out that it became
"Public" (could this be "guilt by association" - the airport wireless
networks are public, so my home network is public, too?). I changed it to
"Private". Didn't help. Checked shares, made sure that the users have the
same passwords. Ditto. I deleted the history of the airport networks. Still
the same.

I am not using Windows Firewalls neither Symantec stuff on any of the
machines.

I went to PChuck's website at http://networking.nitecruzr.net and tweaked
the registry as he suggested, explicitly enabled NetBIOS over TCP/IP,
disabled IPv6. Nothing. On one point I was able to see the XP machines, but
not to browse them (I think the error was "Network name not found"), and
then it went back to square one. I switched off both firewalls (Kerio on XP,
Comodo on Vista) - nothing. Pinging an IP works, so this is probably
something about the name resolution?

And, there was a strange event entry on one point:

The master browser has received a server announcement from the computer
DEVSERVER [that's an XP machine] that believes that it is the master browser
for the domain on transport NetBT_Tcpip_{65D5631D-9BA7-4E7B-8188-8DFA3FBA.
The master browser is stopping or an election is being forced.


I attached the logs that PChuck asked for diagnosis. As you can see,
browstat on Vista machine doesn't work.

Help is much appreciated.

Best regards,
Vadim Berman

Do a simple test. Can you ping each other by IP?

--
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Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"Vadim Berman" <vadim.berman@NOSPAMdigitalsonata.com> wrote in message
news:0EEBC27D-7FC7-47F2-B6DA-2DDB17A910C2@microsoft.com...
> Hi all,
>
> I have a home office network with one new Dell laptop with Windows Vista
> Home Basic which I bought a couple of weeks ago, one desktop with Windows
> XP
> Pro and one older laptop with Windows XP Pro. The laptops are connected
> wirelessly, the desktop is using a wired Ethernet connection.
>
> Obviously, there have been never a problem with XP machines. Initially,
> the
> Vista machine was also able to connect to everybody else. I didn't even
> bother to look at the settings because everything worked. Then I went to a
> business trip, and connected to other networks, including wireless public
> ones in the airports. When I came back, I was unable to share files or
> even
> see other computers on the LAN. The internet connection is working fine
> though. Oh yes, and I also installed a couple of updates, probably some of
> those constituting Service Pack 1 as well.
>
> When I checked the network, to my surprise, it turned out that it became
> "Public" (could this be "guilt by association" - the airport wireless
> networks are public, so my home network is public, too?). I changed it to
> "Private". Didn't help. Checked shares, made sure that the users have the
> same passwords. Ditto. I deleted the history of the airport networks.
> Still
> the same.
>
> I am not using Windows Firewalls neither Symantec stuff on any of the
> machines.
>
> I went to PChuck's website at http://networking.nitecruzr.net and tweaked
> the registry as he suggested, explicitly enabled NetBIOS over TCP/IP,
> disabled IPv6. Nothing. On one point I was able to see the XP machines,
> but
> not to browse them (I think the error was "Network name not found"), and
> then it went back to square one. I switched off both firewalls (Kerio on
> XP,
> Comodo on Vista) - nothing. Pinging an IP works, so this is probably
> something about the name resolution?
>
> And, there was a strange event entry on one point:
>
> The master browser has received a server announcement from the computer
> DEVSERVER [that's an XP machine] that believes that it is the master
> browser
> for the domain on transport NetBT_Tcpip_{65D5631D-9BA7-4E7B-8188-8DFA3FBA.
> The master browser is stopping or an election is being forced.
>
>
> I attached the logs that PChuck asked for diagnosis. As you can see,
> browstat on Vista machine doesn't work.
>
> Help is much appreciated.
>
> Best regards,
> Vadim Berman
>

Hi Robert,

Yes, it works. Both directions.


"Robert L. (MS-MVP)" <blinNoEmailPlease@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:u6qy7DcpIHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Do a simple test. Can you ping each other by IP?
>
> --
> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
> http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
> http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> "Vadim Berman" <vadim.berman@NOSPAMdigitalsonata.com> wrote in message
> news:0EEBC27D-7FC7-47F2-B6DA-2DDB17A910C2@microsoft.com...
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I have a home office network with one new Dell laptop with Windows Vista
>> Home Basic which I bought a couple of weeks ago, one desktop with Windows
>> XP
>> Pro and one older laptop with Windows XP Pro. The laptops are connected
>> wirelessly, the desktop is using a wired Ethernet connection.
>>
>> Obviously, there have been never a problem with XP machines. Initially,
>> the
>> Vista machine was also able to connect to everybody else. I didn't even
>> bother to look at the settings because everything worked. Then I went to
>> a
>> business trip, and connected to other networks, including wireless public
>> ones in the airports. When I came back, I was unable to share files or
>> even
>> see other computers on the LAN. The internet connection is working fine
>> though. Oh yes, and I also installed a couple of updates, probably some
>> of
>> those constituting Service Pack 1 as well.
>>
>> When I checked the network, to my surprise, it turned out that it became
>> "Public" (could this be "guilt by association" - the airport wireless
>> networks are public, so my home network is public, too?). I changed it to
>> "Private". Didn't help. Checked shares, made sure that the users have the
>> same passwords. Ditto. I deleted the history of the airport networks.
>> Still
>> the same.
>>
>> I am not using Windows Firewalls neither Symantec stuff on any of the
>> machines.
>>
>> I went to PChuck's website at http://networking.nitecruzr.net and tweaked
>> the registry as he suggested, explicitly enabled NetBIOS over TCP/IP,
>> disabled IPv6. Nothing. On one point I was able to see the XP machines,
>> but
>> not to browse them (I think the error was "Network name not found"), and
>> then it went back to square one. I switched off both firewalls (Kerio on
>> XP,
>> Comodo on Vista) - nothing. Pinging an IP works, so this is probably
>> something about the name resolution?
>>
>> And, there was a strange event entry on one point:
>>
>> The master browser has received a server announcement from the computer
>> DEVSERVER [that's an XP machine] that believes that it is the master
>> browser
>> for the domain on transport
>> NetBT_Tcpip_{65D5631D-9BA7-4E7B-8188-8DFA3FBA.
>> The master browser is stopping or an election is being forced.
>>
>>
>> I attached the logs that PChuck asked for diagnosis. As you can see,
>> browstat on Vista machine doesn't work.
>>
>> Help is much appreciated.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Vadim Berman
>>
>

A-ha!

I went according to your step by step troubleshooting guide here:
http://www.howtonetworking.com/Troub...cessibale0.htm

and on this page:
http://www.howtonetworking.com/Troub...essibalec1.htm
with new view <IP> it stumbles and falls with error 53.

I went to check the event log, and it says: "Unable to load
C:\Windows\System32\iprtrmgr.dll." and further "The Routing and Remote
Access service terminated with service-specific error 183 (0xB7)."

Obviously, no matter how hard I try to start Routing and Remote Access, it
doesn't start! This must be it, right?

I wonder how I fix it though... I downloaded something called rarepair.exe,
but it didn't help :-( .




"Robert L. (MS-MVP)" <blinNoEmailPlease@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:u6qy7DcpIHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Do a simple test. Can you ping each other by IP?
>
> --
> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
> http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
> http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> "Vadim Berman" <vadim.berman@NOSPAMdigitalsonata.com> wrote in message
> news:0EEBC27D-7FC7-47F2-B6DA-2DDB17A910C2@microsoft.com...
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I have a home office network with one new Dell laptop with Windows Vista
>> Home Basic which I bought a couple of weeks ago, one desktop with Windows
>> XP
>> Pro and one older laptop with Windows XP Pro. The laptops are connected
>> wirelessly, the desktop is using a wired Ethernet connection.
>>
>> Obviously, there have been never a problem with XP machines. Initially,
>> the
>> Vista machine was also able to connect to everybody else. I didn't even
>> bother to look at the settings because everything worked. Then I went to
>> a
>> business trip, and connected to other networks, including wireless public
>> ones in the airports. When I came back, I was unable to share files or
>> even
>> see other computers on the LAN. The internet connection is working fine
>> though. Oh yes, and I also installed a couple of updates, probably some
>> of
>> those constituting Service Pack 1 as well.
>>
>> When I checked the network, to my surprise, it turned out that it became
>> "Public" (could this be "guilt by association" - the airport wireless
>> networks are public, so my home network is public, too?). I changed it to
>> "Private". Didn't help. Checked shares, made sure that the users have the
>> same passwords. Ditto. I deleted the history of the airport networks.
>> Still
>> the same.
>>
>> I am not using Windows Firewalls neither Symantec stuff on any of the
>> machines.
>>
>> I went to PChuck's website at http://networking.nitecruzr.net and tweaked
>> the registry as he suggested, explicitly enabled NetBIOS over TCP/IP,
>> disabled IPv6. Nothing. On one point I was able to see the XP machines,
>> but
>> not to browse them (I think the error was "Network name not found"), and
>> then it went back to square one. I switched off both firewalls (Kerio on
>> XP,
>> Comodo on Vista) - nothing. Pinging an IP works, so this is probably
>> something about the name resolution?
>>
>> And, there was a strange event entry on one point:
>>
>> The master browser has received a server announcement from the computer
>> DEVSERVER [that's an XP machine] that believes that it is the master
>> browser
>> for the domain on transport
>> NetBT_Tcpip_{65D5631D-9BA7-4E7B-8188-8DFA3FBA.
>> The master browser is stopping or an election is being forced.
>>
>>
>> I attached the logs that PChuck asked for diagnosis. As you can see,
>> browstat on Vista machine doesn't work.
>>
>> Help is much appreciated.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Vadim Berman
>>
>

I have almost the same identical problem. My system (laptop using wireless
access and running Vista, desktop using wired acess to network running XP)
was working perfectly until last night. I was working on adding an extender
to use with Windows Media Center on my laptop. I got it working just fine
(using an Xbox 360 for the extender), but when I tried to access files on my
desktop or print to either of two network printers, there was no connection.
The desktop sees my laptop but cannot access it. The laptop can see the
desktop icon but I get an error saying "check the spelling . . ." when I try
to access it. Hope someone can help with these problems.

"Vadim Berman" wrote:

> A-ha!
>
> I went according to your step by step troubleshooting guide here:
> http://www.howtonetworking.com/Troub...cessibale0.htm
>
> and on this page:
> http://www.howtonetworking.com/Troub...essibalec1.htm
> with new view <IP> it stumbles and falls with error 53.
>
> I went to check the event log, and it says: "Unable to load
> C:\Windows\System32\iprtrmgr.dll." and further "The Routing and Remote
> Access service terminated with service-specific error 183 (0xB7)."
>
> Obviously, no matter how hard I try to start Routing and Remote Access, it
> doesn't start! This must be it, right?
>
> I wonder how I fix it though... I downloaded something called rarepair.exe,
> but it didn't help :-( .
>
>
>
>
> "Robert L. (MS-MVP)" <blinNoEmailPlease@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:u6qy7DcpIHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> > Do a simple test. Can you ping each other by IP?
> >
> > --
> > Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> > Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
> > http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> > How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
> > http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> > "Vadim Berman" <vadim.berman@NOSPAMdigitalsonata.com> wrote in message
> > news:0EEBC27D-7FC7-47F2-B6DA-2DDB17A910C2@microsoft.com...
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I have a home office network with one new Dell laptop with Windows Vista
> >> Home Basic which I bought a couple of weeks ago, one desktop with Windows
> >> XP
> >> Pro and one older laptop with Windows XP Pro. The laptops are connected
> >> wirelessly, the desktop is using a wired Ethernet connection.
> >>
> >> Obviously, there have been never a problem with XP machines. Initially,
> >> the
> >> Vista machine was also able to connect to everybody else. I didn't even
> >> bother to look at the settings because everything worked. Then I went to
> >> a
> >> business trip, and connected to other networks, including wireless public
> >> ones in the airports. When I came back, I was unable to share files or
> >> even
> >> see other computers on the LAN. The internet connection is working fine
> >> though. Oh yes, and I also installed a couple of updates, probably some
> >> of
> >> those constituting Service Pack 1 as well.
> >>
> >> When I checked the network, to my surprise, it turned out that it became
> >> "Public" (could this be "guilt by association" - the airport wireless
> >> networks are public, so my home network is public, too?). I changed it to
> >> "Private". Didn't help. Checked shares, made sure that the users have the
> >> same passwords. Ditto. I deleted the history of the airport networks.
> >> Still
> >> the same.
> >>
> >> I am not using Windows Firewalls neither Symantec stuff on any of the
> >> machines.
> >>
> >> I went to PChuck's website at http://networking.nitecruzr.net and tweaked
> >> the registry as he suggested, explicitly enabled NetBIOS over TCP/IP,
> >> disabled IPv6. Nothing. On one point I was able to see the XP machines,
> >> but
> >> not to browse them (I think the error was "Network name not found"), and
> >> then it went back to square one. I switched off both firewalls (Kerio on
> >> XP,
> >> Comodo on Vista) - nothing. Pinging an IP works, so this is probably
> >> something about the name resolution?
> >>
> >> And, there was a strange event entry on one point:
> >>
> >> The master browser has received a server announcement from the computer
> >> DEVSERVER [that's an XP machine] that believes that it is the master
> >> browser
> >> for the domain on transport
> >> NetBT_Tcpip_{65D5631D-9BA7-4E7B-8188-8DFA3FBA.
> >> The master browser is stopping or an election is being forced.
> >>
> >>
> >> I attached the logs that PChuck asked for diagnosis. As you can see,
> >> browstat on Vista machine doesn't work.
> >>
> >> Help is much appreciated.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> Vadim Berman
> >>
> >
>
>

If you can ping but net view receives System error 53, it could be the
firewall issue. You also mentioned you don't use any firewall. For
troubleshooting, start the safe mode with network. Can you net view it?

--
Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"Vadim Berman" <vadim.berman@NOSPAMdigitalsonata.com> wrote in message
news:uxV$fHepIHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> A-ha!
>
> I went according to your step by step troubleshooting guide here:
> http://www.howtonetworking.com/Troub...cessibale0.htm
>
> and on this page:
> http://www.howtonetworking.com/Troub...essibalec1.htm
> with new view <IP> it stumbles and falls with error 53.
>
> I went to check the event log, and it says: "Unable to load
> C:\Windows\System32\iprtrmgr.dll." and further "The Routing and Remote
> Access service terminated with service-specific error 183 (0xB7)."
>
> Obviously, no matter how hard I try to start Routing and Remote Access, it
> doesn't start! This must be it, right?
>
> I wonder how I fix it though... I downloaded something called
> rarepair.exe, but it didn't help :-( .
>
>
>
>
> "Robert L. (MS-MVP)" <blinNoEmailPlease@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:u6qy7DcpIHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Do a simple test. Can you ping each other by IP?
>>
>> --
>> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
>> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
>> http://www.ChicagoTech.net
>> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
>> http://www.HowToNetworking.com
>> "Vadim Berman" <vadim.berman@NOSPAMdigitalsonata.com> wrote in message
>> news:0EEBC27D-7FC7-47F2-B6DA-2DDB17A910C2@microsoft.com...
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I have a home office network with one new Dell laptop with Windows Vista
>>> Home Basic which I bought a couple of weeks ago, one desktop with
>>> Windows
>>> XP
>>> Pro and one older laptop with Windows XP Pro. The laptops are connected
>>> wirelessly, the desktop is using a wired Ethernet connection.
>>>
>>> Obviously, there have been never a problem with XP machines. Initially,
>>> the
>>> Vista machine was also able to connect to everybody else. I didn't even
>>> bother to look at the settings because everything worked. Then I went to
>>> a
>>> business trip, and connected to other networks, including wireless
>>> public
>>> ones in the airports. When I came back, I was unable to share files or
>>> even
>>> see other computers on the LAN. The internet connection is working fine
>>> though. Oh yes, and I also installed a couple of updates, probably some
>>> of
>>> those constituting Service Pack 1 as well.
>>>
>>> When I checked the network, to my surprise, it turned out that it became
>>> "Public" (could this be "guilt by association" - the airport wireless
>>> networks are public, so my home network is public, too?). I changed it
>>> to
>>> "Private". Didn't help. Checked shares, made sure that the users have
>>> the
>>> same passwords. Ditto. I deleted the history of the airport networks.
>>> Still
>>> the same.
>>>
>>> I am not using Windows Firewalls neither Symantec stuff on any of the
>>> machines.
>>>
>>> I went to PChuck's website at http://networking.nitecruzr.net and
>>> tweaked
>>> the registry as he suggested, explicitly enabled NetBIOS over TCP/IP,
>>> disabled IPv6. Nothing. On one point I was able to see the XP machines,
>>> but
>>> not to browse them (I think the error was "Network name not found"), and
>>> then it went back to square one. I switched off both firewalls (Kerio on
>>> XP,
>>> Comodo on Vista) - nothing. Pinging an IP works, so this is probably
>>> something about the name resolution?
>>>
>>> And, there was a strange event entry on one point:
>>>
>>> The master browser has received a server announcement from the computer
>>> DEVSERVER [that's an XP machine] that believes that it is the master
>>> browser
>>> for the domain on transport
>>> NetBT_Tcpip_{65D5631D-9BA7-4E7B-8188-8DFA3FBA.
>>> The master browser is stopping or an election is being forced.
>>>
>>>
>>> I attached the logs that PChuck asked for diagnosis. As you can see,
>>> browstat on Vista machine doesn't work.
>>>
>>> Help is much appreciated.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Vadim Berman
>>>
>>
>

Not really. Again, all the firewalls are switched off.

I'm getting error 67, just like your another patient here:
http://forums.techarena.in/showthread.php?t=924405

Were you able to resolve this one?

Seems like we are going in circles... Did you notice that of all the
gazillion cases, every single one of them involves a laptop and a desktop.

What is so special about it?

"Robert L. (MS-MVP)" <blinNoEmailPlease@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:%23D0CvjhpIHA.4848@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> If you can ping but net view receives System error 53, it could be the
> firewall issue. You also mentioned you don't use any firewall. For
> troubleshooting, start the safe mode with network. Can you net view it?
>
> --
> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
> http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
> http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> "Vadim Berman" <vadim.berman@NOSPAMdigitalsonata.com> wrote in message
> news:uxV$fHepIHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> A-ha!
>>
>> I went according to your step by step troubleshooting guide here:
>> http://www.howtonetworking.com/Troub...cessibale0.htm
>>
>> and on this page:
>> http://www.howtonetworking.com/Troub...essibalec1.htm
>> with new view <IP> it stumbles and falls with error 53.
>>
>> I went to check the event log, and it says: "Unable to load
>> C:\Windows\System32\iprtrmgr.dll." and further "The Routing and Remote
>> Access service terminated with service-specific error 183 (0xB7)."
>>
>> Obviously, no matter how hard I try to start Routing and Remote Access,
>> it doesn't start! This must be it, right?
>>
>> I wonder how I fix it though... I downloaded something called
>> rarepair.exe, but it didn't help :-( .
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Robert L. (MS-MVP)" <blinNoEmailPlease@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:u6qy7DcpIHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> Do a simple test. Can you ping each other by IP?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
>>> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
>>> http://www.ChicagoTech.net
>>> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
>>> http://www.HowToNetworking.com
>>> "Vadim Berman" <vadim.berman@NOSPAMdigitalsonata.com> wrote in message
>>> news:0EEBC27D-7FC7-47F2-B6DA-2DDB17A910C2@microsoft.com...
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I have a home office network with one new Dell laptop with Windows
>>>> Vista
>>>> Home Basic which I bought a couple of weeks ago, one desktop with
>>>> Windows
>>>> XP
>>>> Pro and one older laptop with Windows XP Pro. The laptops are connected
>>>> wirelessly, the desktop is using a wired Ethernet connection.
>>>>
>>>> Obviously, there have been never a problem with XP machines. Initially,
>>>> the
>>>> Vista machine was also able to connect to everybody else. I didn't even
>>>> bother to look at the settings because everything worked. Then I went
>>>> to
>>>> a
>>>> business trip, and connected to other networks, including wireless
>>>> public
>>>> ones in the airports. When I came back, I was unable to share files or
>>>> even
>>>> see other computers on the LAN. The internet connection is working fine
>>>> though. Oh yes, and I also installed a couple of updates, probably some
>>>> of
>>>> those constituting Service Pack 1 as well.
>>>>
>>>> When I checked the network, to my surprise, it turned out that it
>>>> became
>>>> "Public" (could this be "guilt by association" - the airport wireless
>>>> networks are public, so my home network is public, too?). I changed it
>>>> to
>>>> "Private". Didn't help. Checked shares, made sure that the users have
>>>> the
>>>> same passwords. Ditto. I deleted the history of the airport networks.
>>>> Still
>>>> the same.
>>>>
>>>> I am not using Windows Firewalls neither Symantec stuff on any of the
>>>> machines.
>>>>
>>>> I went to PChuck's website at http://networking.nitecruzr.net and
>>>> tweaked
>>>> the registry as he suggested, explicitly enabled NetBIOS over TCP/IP,
>>>> disabled IPv6. Nothing. On one point I was able to see the XP machines,
>>>> but
>>>> not to browse them (I think the error was "Network name not found"),
>>>> and
>>>> then it went back to square one. I switched off both firewalls (Kerio
>>>> on
>>>> XP,
>>>> Comodo on Vista) - nothing. Pinging an IP works, so this is probably
>>>> something about the name resolution?
>>>>
>>>> And, there was a strange event entry on one point:
>>>>
>>>> The master browser has received a server announcement from the computer
>>>> DEVSERVER [that's an XP machine] that believes that it is the master
>>>> browser
>>>> for the domain on transport
>>>> NetBT_Tcpip_{65D5631D-9BA7-4E7B-8188-8DFA3FBA.
>>>> The master browser is stopping or an election is being forced.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I attached the logs that PChuck asked for diagnosis. As you can see,
>>>> browstat on Vista machine doesn't work.
>>>>
>>>> Help is much appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Vadim Berman
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

This is exactly what I'm getting now. The inability to see was due to the
fact that one of the peer networking services was not running.

Like I mentioned - it's always a LAPTOP running Vista and an XP machine.




"Jim" <Jim@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0A0FA744-A317-46D3-AA62-C3117CDDB033@microsoft.com...
>I have almost the same identical problem. My system (laptop using wireless
> access and running Vista, desktop using wired acess to network running XP)
> was working perfectly until last night. I was working on adding an
> extender
> to use with Windows Media Center on my laptop. I got it working just fine
> (using an Xbox 360 for the extender), but when I tried to access files on
> my
> desktop or print to either of two network printers, there was no
> connection.
> The desktop sees my laptop but cannot access it. The laptop can see the
> desktop icon but I get an error saying "check the spelling . . ." when I
> try
> to access it. Hope someone can help with these problems.
>
> "Vadim Berman" wrote:
>
>> A-ha!
>>
>> I went according to your step by step troubleshooting guide here:
>> http://www.howtonetworking.com/Troub...cessibale0.htm
>>
>> and on this page:
>> http://www.howtonetworking.com/Troub...essibalec1.htm
>> with new view <IP> it stumbles and falls with error 53.
>>
>> I went to check the event log, and it says: "Unable to load
>> C:\Windows\System32\iprtrmgr.dll." and further "The Routing and Remote
>> Access service terminated with service-specific error 183 (0xB7)."
>>
>> Obviously, no matter how hard I try to start Routing and Remote Access,
>> it
>> doesn't start! This must be it, right?
>>
>> I wonder how I fix it though... I downloaded something called
>> rarepair.exe,
>> but it didn't help :-( .
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Robert L. (MS-MVP)" <blinNoEmailPlease@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:u6qy7DcpIHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> > Do a simple test. Can you ping each other by IP?
>> >
>> > --
>> > Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
>> > Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
>> > http://www.ChicagoTech.net
>> > How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
>> > http://www.HowToNetworking.com
>> > "Vadim Berman" <vadim.berman@NOSPAMdigitalsonata.com> wrote in message
>> > news:0EEBC27D-7FC7-47F2-B6DA-2DDB17A910C2@microsoft.com...
>> >> Hi all,
>> >>
>> >> I have a home office network with one new Dell laptop with Windows
>> >> Vista
>> >> Home Basic which I bought a couple of weeks ago, one desktop with
>> >> Windows
>> >> XP
>> >> Pro and one older laptop with Windows XP Pro. The laptops are
>> >> connected
>> >> wirelessly, the desktop is using a wired Ethernet connection.
>> >>
>> >> Obviously, there have been never a problem with XP machines.
>> >> Initially,
>> >> the
>> >> Vista machine was also able to connect to everybody else. I didn't
>> >> even
>> >> bother to look at the settings because everything worked. Then I went
>> >> to
>> >> a
>> >> business trip, and connected to other networks, including wireless
>> >> public
>> >> ones in the airports. When I came back, I was unable to share files or
>> >> even
>> >> see other computers on the LAN. The internet connection is working
>> >> fine
>> >> though. Oh yes, and I also installed a couple of updates, probably
>> >> some
>> >> of
>> >> those constituting Service Pack 1 as well.
>> >>
>> >> When I checked the network, to my surprise, it turned out that it
>> >> became
>> >> "Public" (could this be "guilt by association" - the airport wireless
>> >> networks are public, so my home network is public, too?). I changed it
>> >> to
>> >> "Private". Didn't help. Checked shares, made sure that the users have
>> >> the
>> >> same passwords. Ditto. I deleted the history of the airport networks.
>> >> Still
>> >> the same.
>> >>
>> >> I am not using Windows Firewalls neither Symantec stuff on any of the
>> >> machines.
>> >>
>> >> I went to PChuck's website at http://networking.nitecruzr.net and
>> >> tweaked
>> >> the registry as he suggested, explicitly enabled NetBIOS over TCP/IP,
>> >> disabled IPv6. Nothing. On one point I was able to see the XP
>> >> machines,
>> >> but
>> >> not to browse them (I think the error was "Network name not found"),
>> >> and
>> >> then it went back to square one. I switched off both firewalls (Kerio
>> >> on
>> >> XP,
>> >> Comodo on Vista) - nothing. Pinging an IP works, so this is probably
>> >> something about the name resolution?
>> >>
>> >> And, there was a strange event entry on one point:
>> >>
>> >> The master browser has received a server announcement from the
>> >> computer
>> >> DEVSERVER [that's an XP machine] that believes that it is the master
>> >> browser
>> >> for the domain on transport
>> >> NetBT_Tcpip_{65D5631D-9BA7-4E7B-8188-8DFA3FBA.
>> >> The master browser is stopping or an election is being forced.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I attached the logs that PChuck asked for diagnosis. As you can see,
>> >> browstat on Vista machine doesn't work.
>> >>
>> >> Help is much appreciated.
>> >>
>> >> Best regards,
>> >> Vadim Berman
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>

Wait!

What about the router's firewall?

I didn't find any, but maybe it is not obvious?

Can you tell me what ports need to be open, so I can check it with NMap?



"Robert L. (MS-MVP)" <blinNoEmailPlease@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:%23D0CvjhpIHA.4848@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> If you can ping but net view receives System error 53, it could be the
> firewall issue. You also mentioned you don't use any firewall. For
> troubleshooting, start the safe mode with network. Can you net view it?
>
> --
> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
> http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
> http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> "Vadim Berman" <vadim.berman@NOSPAMdigitalsonata.com> wrote in message
> news:uxV$fHepIHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> A-ha!
>>
>> I went according to your step by step troubleshooting guide here:
>> http://www.howtonetworking.com/Troub...cessibale0.htm
>>
>> and on this page:
>> http://www.howtonetworking.com/Troub...essibalec1.htm
>> with new view <IP> it stumbles and falls with error 53.
>>
>> I went to check the event log, and it says: "Unable to load
>> C:\Windows\System32\iprtrmgr.dll." and further "The Routing and Remote
>> Access service terminated with service-specific error 183 (0xB7)."
>>
>> Obviously, no matter how hard I try to start Routing and Remote Access,
>> it doesn't start! This must be it, right?
>>
>> I wonder how I fix it though... I downloaded something called
>> rarepair.exe, but it didn't help :-( .
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Robert L. (MS-MVP)" <blinNoEmailPlease@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:u6qy7DcpIHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> Do a simple test. Can you ping each other by IP?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
>>> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
>>> http://www.ChicagoTech.net
>>> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
>>> http://www.HowToNetworking.com
>>> "Vadim Berman" <vadim.berman@NOSPAMdigitalsonata.com> wrote in message
>>> news:0EEBC27D-7FC7-47F2-B6DA-2DDB17A910C2@microsoft.com...
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I have a home office network with one new Dell laptop with Windows
>>>> Vista
>>>> Home Basic which I bought a couple of weeks ago, one desktop with
>>>> Windows
>>>> XP
>>>> Pro and one older laptop with Windows XP Pro. The laptops are connected
>>>> wirelessly, the desktop is using a wired Ethernet connection.
>>>>
>>>> Obviously, there have been never a problem with XP machines. Initially,
>>>> the
>>>> Vista machine was also able to connect to everybody else. I didn't even
>>>> bother to look at the settings because everything worked. Then I went
>>>> to
>>>> a
>>>> business trip, and connected to other networks, including wireless
>>>> public
>>>> ones in the airports. When I came back, I was unable to share files or
>>>> even
>>>> see other computers on the LAN. The internet connection is working fine
>>>> though. Oh yes, and I also installed a couple of updates, probably some
>>>> of
>>>> those constituting Service Pack 1 as well.
>>>>
>>>> When I checked the network, to my surprise, it turned out that it
>>>> became
>>>> "Public" (could this be "guilt by association" - the airport wireless
>>>> networks are public, so my home network is public, too?). I changed it
>>>> to
>>>> "Private". Didn't help. Checked shares, made sure that the users have
>>>> the
>>>> same passwords. Ditto. I deleted the history of the airport networks.
>>>> Still
>>>> the same.
>>>>
>>>> I am not using Windows Firewalls neither Symantec stuff on any of the
>>>> machines.
>>>>
>>>> I went to PChuck's website at http://networking.nitecruzr.net and
>>>> tweaked
>>>> the registry as he suggested, explicitly enabled NetBIOS over TCP/IP,
>>>> disabled IPv6. Nothing. On one point I was able to see the XP machines,
>>>> but
>>>> not