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Old 03-14-2008
husky86
 

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Re: Internet connection suddenly halts every 24 hours
About 36 hours into the latest experiment, I once again lost Internet
connection and was forced to restart the machine. So it seems that turning
off Network Discovery doesn't really prove effective.

We are using a laptop that has Windows XP and that is also connected through
the router, but it is not experiencing any of the same disconnect problems.
So it seems something exclusive to this Vista setup.

If anyone else has any ideas, please pass them along.

Thanks!
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Old 03-14-2008
husky86
 

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Re: Internet connection suddenly halts every 24 hours
This is only speculation, but I'm wondering if any of this might be cleared
up with the release of Service Pack 1...?

The reason I pose this perhaps rhetorical question is because I'm having one
other major problem with this fairly new computer system: I have an internal
hard drive that is not recognized most of the time by Vista. It requires a
restart in order to get Windows to recognize it a lot of the time (and even
this isn't working anymore).

I have been assured by the manufacturer that this problem will be
satisfactorily addressed with the release of Service Pack 1. (Although I
cannot say I have 100% and complete confidence in such a statement.)

Is there any potential connection whatsoever between these two ongoing
problems...?

(Unfortunately, Service Pack 1 may not be released until late March or even
early April. Even though Microsoft has said that it's supposed to be
released sometime in mid March, I'm not holding my breath.)

Thanks again!
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Old 03-14-2008
Barb Bowman
 

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Re: Internet connection suddenly halts every 24 hours
I'd recommend posting the hard drive issue in the vista hardware and
devices group.

Have you considered a new router?

On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 00:58:02 -0700, husky86
<husky86@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>This is only speculation, but I'm wondering if any of this might be cleared
>up with the release of Service Pack 1...?
>
>The reason I pose this perhaps rhetorical question is because I'm having one
>other major problem with this fairly new computer system: I have an internal
>hard drive that is not recognized most of the time by Vista. It requires a
>restart in order to get Windows to recognize it a lot of the time (and even
>this isn't working anymore).
>
>I have been assured by the manufacturer that this problem will be
>satisfactorily addressed with the release of Service Pack 1. (Although I
>cannot say I have 100% and complete confidence in such a statement.)
>
>Is there any potential connection whatsoever between these two ongoing
>problems...?
>
>(Unfortunately, Service Pack 1 may not be released until late March or even
>early April. Even though Microsoft has said that it's supposed to be
>released sometime in mid March, I'm not holding my breath.)
>
>Thanks again!

--

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MS-MVP
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/
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Old 03-16-2008
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Re: Internet connection suddenly halts every 24 hours
I have disconnected the router and will try to see if the problem again
presents itself over the next couple of days.

Thanks!
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Old 03-16-2008
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Re: Internet connection suddenly halts every 24 hours

Please include enough of the previous message(s) so that others trying to
follow this thread know what you are talking about. Also please try to
“edit out” the non relevant portions. It helps everyone. Go to:
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"husky86" <husky86@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>I have disconnected the router and will try to see if the problem again
> presents itself over the next couple of days.
>
> Thanks!


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Old 03-16-2008
husky86
 

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Re: Internet connection suddenly halts every 24 hours


"husky86" wrote:

> I have disconnected the router and will try to see if the problem again
> presents itself over the next couple of days.
>
> Thanks!


Unfortunately, bypassing the router and just connecting the cable modem
directly to this desktop system did not solve the problem. After about 8
hours my Internet connection was terminated.

Immediately restarting this Vista system enabled the Internet connection to
work properly again (as usual).

Obviously the router is not the problem.

Any further suggestions from anyone would be most appreciated.
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Old 03-16-2008
Barb Bowman
 

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Re: Internet connection suddenly halts every 24 hours
please run ipconfig /all when it is in the not connected state -
copy and save to a txt file. then post it here as a reply.
http://digitalmediaphile.wordpress.c...t-text-output/



On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 03:07:01 -0700, husky86
<husky86@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>
>
>"husky86" wrote:
>
>> I have disconnected the router and will try to see if the problem again
>> presents itself over the next couple of days.
>>
>> Thanks!

>
>Unfortunately, bypassing the router and just connecting the cable modem
>directly to this desktop system did not solve the problem. After about 8
>hours my Internet connection was terminated.
>
>Immediately restarting this Vista system enabled the Internet connection to
>work properly again (as usual).
>
>Obviously the router is not the problem.
>
>Any further suggestions from anyone would be most appreciated.

--

Barb Bowman
MS-MVP
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/
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Old 03-18-2008
husky86
 

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Re: Internet connection suddenly halts every 24 hours
Barb,

Here is the info:

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6000]
Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\Kevin>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Voodoo
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : gci.net

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : gci.net
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NVIDIA nForce Networking Controller #2
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-04-4B-05-A1-5D
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::b950:3b2f:9bc3:5a13%9(Preferred)
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 24.237.255.97(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.248.0
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Monday, March 17, 2008 1:36:44 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, March 24, 2008 1:36:44 PM
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 24.237.248.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 209.165.131.45
DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 234882123
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 209.165.131.12
209.165.131.13
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NVIDIA nForce Networking Controller
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-04-4B-05-A1-5C
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 6:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . :
isatap.{E9F1CAD5-96B3-439F-B8A9-BE6700D48
9E0}
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 7:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . :
2001:0:4137:9e66:241c:254e:e712:9e(Prefer
red)
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::241c:254e:e712:9e%10(Preferred)
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 9:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : gci.net
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.gci.net
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . :
fe80::200:5efe:24.237.255.97%12(Preferred
)
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 209.165.131.12
209.165.131.13
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 10:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : gci.net
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 6TO4 Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Temporary IPv6 Address. . . . . . : 2002:18ed:ff61::18ed:ff61(Preferred)
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 2002:c058:6301::c058:6301
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 209.165.131.12
209.165.131.13
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

C:\Users\Kevin>


"Barb Bowman" wrote:

> please run ipconfig /all when it is in the not connected state -
> copy and save to a txt file. then post it here as a reply.
> http://digitalmediaphile.wordpress.c...t-text-output/
>
>
>
> On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 03:07:01 -0700, husky86
> <husky86@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >"husky86" wrote:
> >
> >> I have disconnected the router and will try to see if the problem again
> >> presents itself over the next couple of days.
> >>
> >> Thanks!

> >
> >Unfortunately, bypassing the router and just connecting the cable modem
> >directly to this desktop system did not solve the problem. After about 8
> >hours my Internet connection was terminated.
> >
> >Immediately restarting this Vista system enabled the Internet connection to
> >work properly again (as usual).
> >
> >Obviously the router is not the problem.
> >
> >Any further suggestions from anyone would be most appreciated.

> --
>
> Barb Bowman
> MS-MVP
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
> http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/
>

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Old 03-18-2008
Barb Bowman
 

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Re: Internet connection suddenly halts every 24 hours
the first thing I'd like you to try is unbinding IPv6
http://digitalmediaphile.wordpress.c...windows-vista/

then, go into device manager and look at the power management
properties for this adapter and make sure that "allow computer to
turn off to save power" is NOT checked.

if it is already not checked, please change your power management
scheme to high performance.

please post results -

On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 02:01:02 -0700, husky86
<husky86@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>Barb,
>
>Here is the info:
>
>Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6000]
>Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
>
>C:\Users\Kevin>ipconfig /all
>
>Windows IP Configuration
>
> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Voodoo
> Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : gci.net
>
>Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:
>
> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : gci.net
> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NVIDIA nForce Networking Controller #2
> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-04-4B-05-A1-5D
> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::b950:3b2f:9bc3:5a13%9(Preferred)
> IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 24.237.255.97(Preferred)
> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.248.0
> Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Monday, March 17, 2008 1:36:44 PM
> Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, March 24, 2008 1:36:44 PM
> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 24.237.248.1
> DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 209.165.131.45
> DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 234882123
> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 209.165.131.12
> 209.165.131.13
> NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled
>
>Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
>
> Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NVIDIA nForce Networking Controller
> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-04-4B-05-A1-5C
> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
>
>Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 6:
>
> Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> Description . . . . . . . . . . . :
>isatap.{E9F1CAD5-96B3-439F-B8A9-BE6700D48
>9E0}
> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
>
>Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 7:
>
> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01
> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . :
>2001:0:4137:9e66:241c:254e:e712:9e(Prefer
>red)
> Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::241c:254e:e712:9e%10(Preferred)
> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
> NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
>
>Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 9:
>
> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : gci.net
> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.gci.net
> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . :
>fe80::200:5efe:24.237.255.97%12(Preferred
>)
> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 209.165.131.12
> 209.165.131.13
> NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
>
>Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 10:
>
> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : gci.net
> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 6TO4 Adapter
> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> Temporary IPv6 Address. . . . . . : 2002:18ed:ff61::18ed:ff61(Preferred)
> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 2002:c058:6301::c058:6301
> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 209.165.131.12
> 209.165.131.13
> NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
>
>C:\Users\Kevin>
>
>
>"Barb Bowman" wrote:
>
>> please run ipconfig /all when it is in the not connected state -
>> copy and save to a txt file. then post it here as a reply.
>> http://digitalmediaphile.wordpress.c...t-text-output/
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 03:07:01 -0700, husky86
>> <husky86@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >"husky86" wrote:
>> >
>> >> I have disconnected the router and will try to see if the problem again
>> >> presents itself over the next couple of days.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks!
>> >
>> >Unfortunately, bypassing the router and just connecting the cable modem
>> >directly to this desktop system did not solve the problem. After about 8
>> >hours my Internet connection was terminated.
>> >
>> >Immediately restarting this Vista system enabled the Internet connection to
>> >work properly again (as usual).
>> >
>> >Obviously the router is not the problem.
>> >
>> >Any further suggestions from anyone would be most appreciated.

>> --
>>
>> Barb Bowman
>> MS-MVP
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
>> http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/
>>

--

Barb Bowman
MS-MVP
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/
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Old 03-18-2008
husky86
 

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Re: Internet connection suddenly halts every 24 hours
Hi Barb,

I was able to make both changes:

1. I unchecked IPv6
2. I unchecked the powersaving option for the network adapter (it was indeed
checked to be turned off for power saving).

I will keep you posted on the results.

Thanks!


"Barb Bowman" wrote:

> the first thing I'd like you to try is unbinding IPv6
> http://digitalmediaphile.wordpress.c...windows-vista/
>
> then, go into device manager and look at the power management
> properties for this adapter and make sure that "allow computer to
> turn off to save power" is NOT checked.
>
> if it is already not checked, please change your power management
> scheme to high performance.
>
> please post results -
>
> On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 02:01:02 -0700, husky86
> <husky86@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> >Barb,
> >
> >Here is the info:
> >
> >Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6000]
> >Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
> >
> >C:\Users\Kevin>ipconfig /all
> >
> >Windows IP Configuration
> >
> > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Voodoo
> > Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
> > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
> > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> > DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : gci.net
> >
> >Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:
> >
> > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : gci.net
> > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NVIDIA nForce Networking Controller #2
> > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-04-4B-05-A1-5D
> > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
> > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> > Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::b950:3b2f:9bc3:5a13%9(Preferred)
> > IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 24.237.255.97(Preferred)
> > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.248.0
> > Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Monday, March 17, 2008 1:36:44 PM
> > Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, March 24, 2008 1:36:44 PM
> > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 24.237.248.1
> > DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 209.165.131.45
> > DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 234882123
> > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 209.165.131.12
> > 209.165.131.13
> > NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled
> >
> >Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
> >
> > Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
> > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NVIDIA nForce Networking Controller
> > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-04-4B-05-A1-5C
> > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
> > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> >
> >Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 6:
> >
> > Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
> > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> > Description . . . . . . . . . . . :
> >isatap.{E9F1CAD5-96B3-439F-B8A9-BE6700D48
> >9E0}
> > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
> > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
> > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> >
> >Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 7:
> >
> > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
> > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01
> > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
> > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> > IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . :
> >2001:0:4137:9e66:241c:254e:e712:9e(Prefer
> >red)
> > Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::241c:254e:e712:9e%10(Preferred)
> > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
> > NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
> >
> >Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 9:
> >
> > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : gci.net
> > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.gci.net
> > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
> > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
> > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> > Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . :
> >fe80::200:5efe:24.237.255.97%12(Preferred
> >)
> > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
> > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 209.165.131.12
> > 209.165.131.13
> > NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
> >
> >Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 10:
> >
> > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : gci.net
> > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 6TO4 Adapter
> > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
> > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
> > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> > Temporary IPv6 Address. . . . . . : 2002:18ed:ff61::18ed:ff61(Preferred)
> > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 2002:c058:6301::c058:6301
> > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 209.165.131.12
> > 209.165.131.13
> > NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
> >
> >C:\Users\Kevin>
> >
> >
> >"Barb Bowman" wrote:
> >
> >> please run ipconfig /all when it is in the not connected state -
> >> copy and save to a txt file. then post it here as a reply.
> >> http://digitalmediaphile.wordpress.c...t-text-output/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 03:07:01 -0700, husky86
> >> <husky86@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"husky86" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I have disconnected the router and will try to see if the problem again
> >> >> presents itself over the next couple of days.
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks!
> >> >
> >> >Unfortunately, bypassing the router and just connecting the cable modem
> >> >directly to this desktop system did not solve the problem. After about 8
> >> >hours my Internet connection was terminated.
> >> >
> >> >Immediately restarting this Vista system enabled the Internet connection to
> >> >work properly again (as usual).
> >> >
> >> >Obviously the router is not the problem.
> >> >
> >> >Any further suggestions from anyone would be most appreciated.
> >> --
> >>
> >> Barb Bowman
> >> MS-MVP
> >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
> >> http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/
> >>

> --
>
> Barb Bowman
> MS-MVP
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
> http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/
>

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