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Old 02-28-2008
Eero
 

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VISTA/XP Networking Fustranions 2
I Have exact same problem like over.

I have made all what i can. XP-Pc's are in Netmap but I can't connected to
them.

XP-PC's works together but This Vista-PC contact not there. Or XP PC*s not
Vista too.

I have make all same like there SID with same problem. I have taked firewall
out and In and all settings leared and reset and.. and.. and...

What can be reason? frustration is not so small because i have about 100
hours eork with this problem.

I shop new XBOX to and even XBOX found not this Vista and Vista not that
XBOX. I bee so nervos that i sold out Xbox because it not wotk in this net.

XP 's work without problem together and alonen.

Thanks, if somebody can say what i can do.
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Hello Eero,

I also had some trouble making a connection from my Vista laptop to my XP machine or from my XP machine to my Vista laptop.

Make sure that on all machines the same user with the same password exist. Also the password must be not empty. This solved my problem almost right away, after checking some settings in the networking center of Vista and checking permissions of folders that are shared.
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Old 02-28-2008
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Re: VISTA/XP Networking Fustranions 2
Eero wrote:

> I Have exact same problem like over.
>
> I have made all what i can. XP-Pc's are in Netmap but I can't connected to
> them.
>
> XP-PC's works together but This Vista-PC contact not there. Or XP PC*s not
> Vista too.
>
> I have make all same like there SID with same problem. I have taked
> firewall out and In and all settings leared and reset and.. and.. and...
>
> What can be reason? frustration is not so small because i have about 100
> hours eork with this problem.
>
> I shop new XBOX to and even XBOX found not this Vista and Vista not that
> XBOX. I bee so nervos that i sold out Xbox because it not wotk in this
> net.
>
> XP 's work without problem together and alonen.


I'll give you my usual network troubleshooting steps below but I strongly
suggest that:

1. If you want newsgroup help, post in one of the newsgroups in your native
language. I say this not to offend you in any way but simply because it is
difficult enough getting/giving technical support in writing without the
added burden of a language barrier. Here is a list of all the MS public
newsgroups: http://aumha.org/nntp.htm

2. You've been at this for a long time. Consider having a computer
professional come on-site and set you up properly. I find it difficult to
believe that you have "100 hours" of work struggling with this but in any
case networking Vista, XP, and an Xbox normally takes only a few minutes
depending on the number of machines involved. Surely your time is worth
something. Get recommendations from family, friends, colleagues and don't
use someone from BigComputerStore/Geeksquad.

Here are general network troubleshooting steps. Not everything may be
applicable to your situation, so just take the bits that are. It may look
daunting, but if you follow the steps at the links and suggestions below
systematically and calmly, you will have no difficulty in setting up your
sharing.

Excellent, thorough, yet easy to understand article about File/Printer
Sharing in Vista. Includes details about sharing printers as well as files
and folders:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx

For XP, start by running the Network Setup Wizard on all machines (see
caveat in Item A below).

Problems sharing files between computers on a network are generally caused
by 1) a misconfigured firewall; or 2) inadvertently running two firewalls
such as the built-in Windows Firewall and a third-party firewall; and/or 3)
not having identical user accounts and passwords on all Workgroup machines;
4) trying to create shares where the operating system does not permit it.

For XP and Windows 2003 Server, MVP Hans-Georg Michna has an excellent small
network troubleshooter. It may also be useful with Vista.

http://winhlp.com/wxnet.htm

Here are some general networking tips for home/small networks:

A. Configure firewalls on all machines to allow the Local Area Network (LAN)
traffic as trusted. With Windows Firewall, this means allowing File/Printer
Sharing on the Exceptions tab. Normally running the Network Setup Wizard on
XP will take care of this for those machines.The only "gotcha" is that this
will turn on the XPSP2 Windows Firewall. If you aren't running a
third-party firewall or have an antivirus with "Internet Worm
Protection" (like Norton 2006/07) which acts as a firewall, then you're
fine. With third-party firewalls, I usually configure the LAN allowance
with an IP range. Ex. would be 192.168.1.0-192.168.1.254. Obviously you
would substitute your correct subnet. Do not run more than one firewall.

B. For ease of organization, put all computers in the same Workgroup. This
is done from the System applet in Control Panel, Computer Name tab.

C. Create matching user accounts and passwords on all machines. You do not
need to be logged into the same account on all machines and the passwords
assigned to each user account can be different; the accounts/passwords just
need to exist and match on all machines. If you wish a machine to boot
directly to the Desktop (into one particular user's account) for
convenience, you can do this. The instructions at this link work for both
XP and Vista:

Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) -
http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm

D. If one or more of the computers is XP Pro or Media Center:

1. If you need Pro's ability to set fine-grained permissions, turn off
Simple File Sharing (Folder Options>View tab) and create identical user
accounts/passwords on all computers.

2. If you don't care about using Pro's advanced features, leave the Simple
File Sharing enabled. Simple File Sharing means that Guest (network) is
enabled. This means that anyone without a user account on the target system
can use its resources. This is a security hole but only you can decide if
it matters in your situation.

E. Create shares as desired. XP Home does not permit sharing of users' home
directories (My Documents) or Program Files, but you can share folders
inside those directories. A better choice is to simply use the Shared
Documents folder. See the first link above for details about Vista sharing.

Malke
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Old 02-29-2008
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Re: VISTA/XP Networking Fustranions 2
Thanks for Your's very complete answear. I do now so that I read this very
careful and do it all. If these steps not solve my problem then I must give
up and share my printer and folder via email. :-)) That I wonder: I can
communicate with You over 3000 miles and not with my daughters distance only
15 meter :-))) Vista can make all so difficult. Hi.

Thanks very much and all beautiful for Your's life, I do and I be shamed if
it not coming ok
Eero
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