Cannot see Windows XP Computers

Samski,

Thank you for the detail feedback.

Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"Samski" <Samski@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:07BA9115-E6D6-472C-B880-4D4FCCA86484@microsoft.com...
WAHOO! Its working. I disabled my firewall and booted the main pc and it
popped up all working in myt network place... Dont know whether the pcs just
needed a reboot or it was the firewall... Have now reconnected firewall and
all is loverly. Here are my settings (i hope they help):

Network discovery: on
File sharing: on
public folder sharing: off
printer sharing: on (password protected)
Password protected sharing: on
Media sharing: off

I also changed my workgroup name from WORKGROUP to MSHOME and briefly turned
of my firewall (dont know how important that it). DID NOT disable anything in
my wireless connection properties, all the tcp lltd tc things are ticked.

I think microsoft could have atleast included something to detect worgroup
names etc.

oh well... good look to you guys!

sam


"Mike S." wrote:

> Bob, come on, please take this a little more seriously. I have tried every
> imaginable fix for this, including this one. All I really want to do is
> connect thsi stupid Vista machine to my printer.
>
> "Robert L [MVP - Networking]" wrote:
>
> > Make sure all computers are in the same workgroup. Also make sure enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP. These troubleshooting may help,
> >
> > Step by step troubleshooting VISTA sharing
> > http://www.chicagotech.net/forum1.htm
> >
> > Vista Troubleshooting Collections
> > http://www.chicagotech.net/forum1.htm
> >
> > Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> > Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> > How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> > "Bill Fry" <BillFry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:450229BE-7ADF-4BBB-B102-F71EDF9EFC24@microsoft.com...
> > I have 3 PC's, and 2 Notebooks on a home network. I purchased a Vista
> > Machine and can not see the XP Pro Machines. I have upgraded one machine to
> > Vista and can see the other Vista machine, but still can not see the XP
> > Boxes. All have file sharing and all have the same Workgroup Name.
> >
> > I can ping the machines, just not connect to them

I have also fixed this problem, but it was not firewall related. I had also
tried all versions of disabling firewalls and rebooting with no luck.

It turns out that I had a Creative Live! wireless webcam in my garage from
several months back that powered on and connected, even though it wasn't
actually working. It took Network Magic to point me in this direction, where
it showed up as an unnamed device. Unplugging it resulted in all issues
disappearing. Why the simple existence of this device on the network would
prevent Vista from networking with XP systems is beyond me. I also have a
VOIP modem connected to the router, which apparently doesn't cause problems,
but which I had tried disconnecting anyway.

"Robert L [MVP - Networking]" wrote:

> Samski,
>
> Thank you for the detail feedback.
>
> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> "Samski" <Samski@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:07BA9115-E6D6-472C-B880-4D4FCCA86484@microsoft.com...
> WAHOO! Its working. I disabled my firewall and booted the main pc and it
> popped up all working in myt network place... Dont know whether the pcs just
> needed a reboot or it was the firewall... Have now reconnected firewall and
> all is loverly. Here are my settings (i hope they help):
>
> Network discovery: on
> File sharing: on
> public folder sharing: off
> printer sharing: on (password protected)
> Password protected sharing: on
> Media sharing: off
>
> I also changed my workgroup name from WORKGROUP to MSHOME and briefly turned
> of my firewall (dont know how important that it). DID NOT disable anything in
> my wireless connection properties, all the tcp lltd tc things are ticked.
>
> I think microsoft could have atleast included something to detect worgroup
> names etc.
>
> oh well... good look to you guys!
>
> sam
>
>
> "Mike S." wrote:
>
> > Bob, come on, please take this a little more seriously. I have tried every
> > imaginable fix for this, including this one. All I really want to do is
> > connect thsi stupid Vista machine to my printer.
> >
> > "Robert L [MVP - Networking]" wrote:
> >
> > > Make sure all computers are in the same workgroup. Also make sure enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP. These troubleshooting may help,
> > >
> > > Step by step troubleshooting VISTA sharing
> > > http://www.chicagotech.net/forum1.htm
> > >
> > > Vista Troubleshooting Collections
> > > http://www.chicagotech.net/forum1.htm
> > >
> > > Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> > > Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> > > How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> > > "Bill Fry" <BillFry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:450229BE-7ADF-4BBB-B102-F71EDF9EFC24@microsoft.com...
> > > I have 3 PC's, and 2 Notebooks on a home network. I purchased a Vista
> > > Machine and can not see the XP Pro Machines. I have upgraded one machine to
> > > Vista and can see the other Vista machine, but still can not see the XP
> > > Boxes. All have file sharing and all have the same Workgroup Name.
> > >
> > > I can ping the machines, just not connect to them

Mike,

Glad to head you fixed it. We learned from your experience. Thank you for the feedback and post back if you have other questions.

Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"Mike S." <MikeS@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:CAF8294E-C4E4-4060-89C6-8BB48A0288BB@microsoft.com...
I have also fixed this problem, but it was not firewall related. I had also
tried all versions of disabling firewalls and rebooting with no luck.

It turns out that I had a Creative Live! wireless webcam in my garage from
several months back that powered on and connected, even though it wasn't
actually working. It took Network Magic to point me in this direction, where
it showed up as an unnamed device. Unplugging it resulted in all issues
disappearing. Why the simple existence of this device on the network would
prevent Vista from networking with XP systems is beyond me. I also have a
VOIP modem connected to the router, which apparently doesn't cause problems,
but which I had tried disconnecting anyway.

"Robert L [MVP - Networking]" wrote:

> Samski,
>
> Thank you for the detail feedback.
>
> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> "Samski" <Samski@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:07BA9115-E6D6-472C-B880-4D4FCCA86484@microsoft.com...
> WAHOO! Its working. I disabled my firewall and booted the main pc and it
> popped up all working in myt network place... Dont know whether the pcs just
> needed a reboot or it was the firewall... Have now reconnected firewall and
> all is loverly. Here are my settings (i hope they help):
>
> Network discovery: on
> File sharing: on
> public folder sharing: off
> printer sharing: on (password protected)
> Password protected sharing: on
> Media sharing: off
>
> I also changed my workgroup name from WORKGROUP to MSHOME and briefly turned
> of my firewall (dont know how important that it). DID NOT disable anything in
> my wireless connection properties, all the tcp lltd tc things are ticked.
>
> I think microsoft could have atleast included something to detect worgroup
> names etc.
>
> oh well... good look to you guys!
>
> sam
>
>
> "Mike S." wrote:
>
> > Bob, come on, please take this a little more seriously. I have tried every
> > imaginable fix for this, including this one. All I really want to do is
> > connect thsi stupid Vista machine to my printer.
> >
> > "Robert L [MVP - Networking]" wrote:
> >
> > > Make sure all computers are in the same workgroup. Also make sure enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP. These troubleshooting may help,
> > >
> > > Step by step troubleshooting VISTA sharing
> > > http://www.chicagotech.net/forum1.htm
> > >
> > > Vista Troubleshooting Collections
> > > http://www.chicagotech.net/forum1.htm
> > >
> > > Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> > > Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> > > How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> > > "Bill Fry" <BillFry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:450229BE-7ADF-4BBB-B102-F71EDF9EFC24@microsoft.com...
> > > I have 3 PC's, and 2 Notebooks on a home network. I purchased a Vista
> > > Machine and can not see the XP Pro Machines. I have upgraded one machine to
> > > Vista and can see the other Vista machine, but still can not see the XP
> > > Boxes. All have file sharing and all have the same Workgroup Name.
> > >
> > > I can ping the machines, just not connect to them

Ok... wait for it! Its not working again!

Ok so im doing better now. I can find the pcs on both ends and it appears i
have to disable my firewall (norton) in order to find the xp pc from this
one, then i can reactivate the firewall and it is still there. When i say
'appears' though i mean it is intermitent. Once firewall is disabled i can
find other pc by searching \\pc name and when firewall comes on again i can
still do this, however it is still not appearing in the network folder all
the time - sometimes it decides to and sometimes it doesnt!

Any ideas?

"Robert L [MVP - Networking]" wrote:

> Mike,
>
> Glad to head you fixed it. We learned from your experience. Thank you for the feedback and post back if you have other questions.
>
> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> "Mike S." <MikeS@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:CAF8294E-C4E4-4060-89C6-8BB48A0288BB@microsoft.com...
> I have also fixed this problem, but it was not firewall related. I had also
> tried all versions of disabling firewalls and rebooting with no luck.
>
> It turns out that I had a Creative Live! wireless webcam in my garage from
> several months back that powered on and connected, even though it wasn't
> actually working. It took Network Magic to point me in this direction, where
> it showed up as an unnamed device. Unplugging it resulted in all issues
> disappearing. Why the simple existence of this device on the network would
> prevent Vista from networking with XP systems is beyond me. I also have a
> VOIP modem connected to the router, which apparently doesn't cause problems,
> but which I had tried disconnecting anyway.
>
> "Robert L [MVP - Networking]" wrote:
>
> > Samski,
> >
> > Thank you for the detail feedback.
> >
> > Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> > Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> > How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> > "Samski" <Samski@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:07BA9115-E6D6-472C-B880-4D4FCCA86484@microsoft.com...
> > WAHOO! Its working. I disabled my firewall and booted the main pc and it
> > popped up all working in myt network place... Dont know whether the pcs just
> > needed a reboot or it was the firewall... Have now reconnected firewall and
> > all is loverly. Here are my settings (i hope they help):
> >
> > Network discovery: on
> > File sharing: on
> > public folder sharing: off
> > printer sharing: on (password protected)
> > Password protected sharing: on
> > Media sharing: off
> >
> > I also changed my workgroup name from WORKGROUP to MSHOME and briefly turned
> > of my firewall (dont know how important that it). DID NOT disable anything in
> > my wireless connection properties, all the tcp lltd tc things are ticked.
> >
> > I think microsoft could have atleast included something to detect worgroup
> > names etc.
> >
> > oh well... good look to you guys!
> >
> > sam
> >
> >
> > "Mike S." wrote:
> >
> > > Bob, come on, please take this a little more seriously. I have tried every
> > > imaginable fix for this, including this one. All I really want to do is
> > > connect thsi stupid Vista machine to my printer.
> > >
> > > "Robert L [MVP - Networking]" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Make sure all computers are in the same workgroup. Also make sure enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP. These troubleshooting may help,
> > > >
> > > > Step by step troubleshooting VISTA sharing
> > > > http://www.chicagotech.net/forum1.htm
> > > >
> > > > Vista Troubleshooting Collections
> > > > http://www.chicagotech.net/forum1.htm
> > > >
> > > > Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> > > > Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> > > > How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> > > > "Bill Fry" <BillFry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:450229BE-7ADF-4BBB-B102-F71EDF9EFC24@microsoft.com...
> > > > I have 3 PC's, and 2 Notebooks on a home network. I purchased a Vista
> > > > Machine and can not see the XP Pro Machines. I have upgraded one machine to
> > > > Vista and can see the other Vista machine, but still can not see the XP
> > > > Boxes. All have file sharing and all have the same Workgroup Name.
> > > >
> > > > I can ping the machines, just not connect to them

Samski,
Have you configured Norton so that it allows network discovery and file &
printer sharing to take place seamlessly? If not, can you please try these
steps?

<Instructions referenced from one of Dr.Stretch' posts to this newsgroup but
edited for your case>
1. Open your Norton or, other Virus program
(I have NIS 2007 on Vista & NIS 2006 on XP) they both look the same.
2. Expand the Setting Tab
3. Under Web Browsing, click Personal Firewall
4. Click Configure, then if you are (Admin. click continue)
5. Goto Advance Settings (on side menu)
6. Click Configure
7. You are there (Do you notice all the RED arrows)
8. Choose any selection that has the word either "sharing" or NetBIOS
9. Click Modify and choose Allow (or equivalent)

Repeat steps 8 & 9 for every such selection.

Please note that one firewall (either Windows or any 3rd party) must be
enabled at any time for security purposes.

Thanks,
Sen.

"Samski" wrote:

> Ok... wait for it! Its not working again!
>
> Ok so im doing better now. I can find the pcs on both ends and it appears i
> have to disable my firewall (norton) in order to find the xp pc from this
> one, then i can reactivate the firewall and it is still there. When i say
> 'appears' though i mean it is intermitent. Once firewall is disabled i can
> find other pc by searching \\pc name and when firewall comes on again i can
> still do this, however it is still not appearing in the network folder all
> the time - sometimes it decides to and sometimes it doesnt!
>
> Any ideas?
>
> "Robert L [MVP - Networking]" wrote:
>
> > Mike,
> >
> > Glad to head you fixed it. We learned from your experience. Thank you for the feedback and post back if you have other questions.
> >
> > Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> > Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> > How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> > "Mike S." <MikeS@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:CAF8294E-C4E4-4060-89C6-8BB48A0288BB@microsoft.com...
> > I have also fixed this problem, but it was not firewall related. I had also
> > tried all versions of disabling firewalls and rebooting with no luck.
> >
> > It turns out that I had a Creative Live! wireless webcam in my garage from
> > several months back that powered on and connected, even though it wasn't
> > actually working. It took Network Magic to point me in this direction, where
> > it showed up as an unnamed device. Unplugging it resulted in all issues
> > disappearing. Why the simple existence of this device on the network would
> > prevent Vista from networking with XP systems is beyond me. I also have a
> > VOIP modem connected to the router, which apparently doesn't cause problems,
> > but which I had tried disconnecting anyway.
> >
> > "Robert L [MVP - Networking]" wrote:
> >
> > > Samski,
> > >
> > > Thank you for the detail feedback.
> > >
> > > Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> > > Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> > > How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> > > "Samski" <Samski@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:07BA9115-E6D6-472C-B880-4D4FCCA86484@microsoft.com...
> > > WAHOO! Its working. I disabled my firewall and booted the main pc and it
> > > popped up all working in myt network place... Dont know whether the pcs just
> > > needed a reboot or it was the firewall... Have now reconnected firewall and
> > > all is loverly. Here are my settings (i hope they help):
> > >
> > > Network discovery: on
> > > File sharing: on
> > > public folder sharing: off
> > > printer sharing: on (password protected)
> > > Password protected sharing: on
> > > Media sharing: off
> > >
> > > I also changed my workgroup name from WORKGROUP to MSHOME and briefly turned
> > > of my firewall (dont know how important that it). DID NOT disable anything in
> > > my wireless connection properties, all the tcp lltd tc things are ticked.
> > >
> > > I think microsoft could have atleast included something to detect worgroup
> > > names etc.
> > >
> > > oh well... good look to you guys!
> > >
> > > sam
> > >
> > >
> > > "Mike S." wrote:
> > >
> > > > Bob, come on, please take this a little more seriously. I have tried every
> > > > imaginable fix for this, including this one. All I really want to do is
> > > > connect thsi stupid Vista machine to my printer.
> > > >
> > > > "Robert L [MVP - Networking]" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Make sure all computers are in the same workgroup. Also make sure enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP. These troubleshooting may help,
> > > > >
> > > > > Step by step troubleshooting VISTA sharing
> > > > > http://www.chicagotech.net/forum1.htm
> > > > >
> > > > > Vista Troubleshooting Collections
> > > > > http://www.chicagotech.net/forum1.htm
> > > > >
> > > > > Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> > > > > Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> > > > > How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> > > > > "Bill Fry" <BillFry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:450229BE-7ADF-4BBB-B102-F71EDF9EFC24@microsoft.com...
> > > > > I have 3 PC's, and 2 Notebooks on a home network. I purchased a Vista
> > > > > Machine and can not see the XP Pro Machines. I have upgraded one machine to
> > > > > Vista and can see the other Vista machine, but still can not see the XP
> > > > > Boxes. All have file sharing and all have the same Workgroup Name.
> > > > >
> > > > > I can ping the machines, just not connect to them

THANKS V MUCH. i was looking at these cos it was pretty ovious it was the
firewall but i didnt want to start fiddling with it. I jave changed these
things but also left on windows firewall with recommended settings. The other
pc appears to be popping up pretty quickly now so all is a ok!

Thanks for ur help MS and everyone on this forum!

Sam

oo btw is there any way of changing how i wake up my pc after i have put it
into hybrid sleep. I keep nudging my mouse!

"Sen [MSFT]" wrote:

> Samski,
> Have you configured Norton so that it allows network discovery and file &
> printer sharing to take place seamlessly? If not, can you please try these
> steps?
>
> <Instructions referenced from one of Dr.Stretch' posts to this newsgroup but
> edited for your case>
> 1. Open your Norton or, other Virus program
> (I have NIS 2007 on Vista & NIS 2006 on XP) they both look the same.
> 2. Expand the Setting Tab
> 3. Under Web Browsing, click Personal Firewall
> 4. Click Configure, then if you are (Admin. click continue)
> 5. Goto Advance Settings (on side menu)
> 6. Click Configure
> 7. You are there (Do you notice all the RED arrows)
> 8. Choose any selection that has the word either "sharing" or NetBIOS
> 9. Click Modify and choose Allow (or equivalent)
>
> Repeat steps 8 & 9 for every such selection.
>
> Please note that one firewall (either Windows or any 3rd party) must be
> enabled at any time for security purposes.
>
> Thanks,
> Sen.
>
> "Samski" wrote:
>
> > Ok... wait for it! Its not working again!
> >
> > Ok so im doing better now. I can find the pcs on both ends and it appears i
> > have to disable my firewall (norton) in order to find the xp pc from this
> > one, then i can reactivate the firewall and it is still there. When i say
> > 'appears' though i mean it is intermitent. Once firewall is disabled i can
> > find other pc by searching \\pc name and when firewall comes on again i can
> > still do this, however it is still not appearing in the network folder all
> > the time - sometimes it decides to and sometimes it doesnt!
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > "Robert L [MVP - Networking]" wrote:
> >
> > > Mike,
> > >
> > > Glad to head you fixed it. We learned from your experience. Thank you for the feedback and post back if you have other questions.
> > >
> > > Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> > > Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> > > How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> > > "Mike S." <MikeS@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:CAF8294E-C4E4-4060-89C6-8BB48A0288BB@microsoft.com...
> > > I have also fixed this problem, but it was not firewall related. I had also
> > > tried all versions of disabling firewalls and rebooting with no luck.
> > >
> > > It turns out that I had a Creative Live! wireless webcam in my garage from
> > > several months back that powered on and connected, even though it wasn't
> > > actually working. It took Network Magic to point me in this direction, where
> > > it showed up as an unnamed device. Unplugging it resulted in all issues
> > > disappearing. Why the simple existence of this device on the network would
> > > prevent Vista from networking with XP systems is beyond me. I also have a
> > > VOIP modem connected to the router, which apparently doesn't cause problems,
> > > but which I had tried disconnecting anyway.
> > >
> > > "Robert L [MVP - Networking]" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Samski,
> > > >
> > > > Thank you for the detail feedback.
> > > >
> > > > Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> > > > Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> > > > How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> > > > "Samski" <Samski@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:07BA9115-E6D6-472C-B880-4D4FCCA86484@microsoft.com...
> > > > WAHOO! Its working. I disabled my firewall and booted the main pc and it
> > > > popped up all working in myt network place... Dont know whether the pcs just
> > > > needed a reboot or it was the firewall... Have now reconnected firewall and
> > > > all is loverly. Here are my settings (i hope they help):
> > > >
> > > > Network discovery: on
> > > > File sharing: on
> > > > public folder sharing: off
> > > > printer sharing: on (password protected)
> > > > Password protected sharing: on
> > > > Media sharing: off
> > > >
> > > > I also changed my workgroup name from WORKGROUP to MSHOME and briefly turned
> > > > of my firewall (dont know how important that it). DID NOT disable anything in
> > > > my wireless connection properties, all the tcp lltd tc things are ticked.
> > > >
> > > > I think microsoft could have atleast included something to detect worgroup
> > > > names etc.
> > > >
> > > > oh well... good look to you guys!
> > > >
> > > > sam
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Mike S." wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Bob, come on, please take this a little more seriously. I have tried every
> > > > > imaginable fix for this, including this one. All I really want to do is
> > > > > connect thsi stupid Vista machine to my printer.
> > > > >
> > > > > "Robert L [MVP - Networking]" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Make sure all computers are in the same workgroup. Also make sure enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP. These troubleshooting may help,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Step by step troubleshooting VISTA sharing
> > > > > > http://www.chicagotech.net/forum1.htm
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Vista Troubleshooting Collections
> > > > > > http://www.chicagotech.net/forum1.htm
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> > > > > > Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> > > > > > How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> > > > > > "Bill Fry" <BillFry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:450229BE-7ADF-4BBB-B102-F71EDF9EFC24@microsoft.com...
> > > > > > I have 3 PC's, and 2 Notebooks on a home network. I purchased a Vista
> > > > > > Machine and can not see the XP Pro Machines. I have upgraded one machine to
> > > > > > Vista and can see the other Vista machine, but still can not see the XP
> > > > > > Boxes. All have file sharing and all have the same Workgroup Name.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I can ping the machines, just not connect to them

This is just another Microsoft assinine screw up-totally unbelieveable that
Microsoft didn't address this issue before putting Vista junk on the market.
Bill Gates should have his balls wrapped in ice......

"Bill Fry" wrote:

> I have 3 PC's, and 2 Notebooks on a home network. I purchased a Vista
> Machine and can not see the XP Pro Machines. I have upgraded one machine to
> Vista and can see the other Vista machine, but still can not see the XP
> Boxes. All have file sharing and all have the same Workgroup Name.
>
> I can ping the machines, just not connect to them.

On Mar 6, 6:41 pm, Sen [MSFT] <SenM...@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote:
> Samski,
> Have you configured Norton so that it allows network discovery and file &
> printer sharing to take place seamlessly? If not, can you please try these
> steps?
>
> <Instructions referenced from one of Dr.Stretch' posts to this newsgroup but
> edited for your case>
> 1. Open your Norton or, other Virus program
> (I have NIS 2007 on Vista & NIS 2006 on XP) they both look the same.
> 2. Expand the Setting Tab
> 3. Under Web Browsing, click Personal Firewall
> 4. Click Configure, then if you are (Admin. click continue)
> 5. Goto Advance Settings (on side menu)
> 6. Click Configure
> 7. You are there (Do you notice all the RED arrows)
> 8. Choose any selection that has the word either "sharing" or NetBIOS
> 9. Click Modify and choose Allow (or equivalent)
>
> Repeat steps 8 & 9 for every such selection.
>
> Please note that one firewall (either Windows or any 3rd party) must be
> enabled at any time for security purposes.
>
> Thanks,
> Sen.
>
>
>
> "Samski" wrote:
> > Ok... wait for it! Its not working again!
>
> > Ok so im doing better now. I can find the pcs on both ends and it appears i
> > have to disable my firewall (norton) in order to find the xp pc from this
> > one, then i can reactivate the firewall and it is still there. When i say
> > 'appears' though i mean it is intermitent. Once firewall is disabled i can
> > find other pc by searching \\pc name and when firewall comes on again i can
> > still do this, however it is still not appearing in the network folder all
> > the time - sometimes it decides to and sometimes it doesnt!
>
> > Any ideas?
>
> > "Robert L [MVP - Networking]" wrote:
>
> > > Mike,
>
> > > Glad to head you fixed it. We learned from your experience. Thank you for the feedback and post back if you have other questions.
>
> > > Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> > > Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting onhttp://www.ChicagoTech.net
> > > How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access onhttp://www.HowToNetworking.com
> > > "Mike S." <M...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in messagenews:CAF8294E-C4E4-4060-89C6-8BB48A0288BB@microsoft.com...
> > > I have also fixed this problem, but it was not firewall related. I had also
> > > tried all versions of disabling firewalls and rebooting with no luck.
>
> > > It turns out that I had a Creative Live! wireless webcam in my garage from
> > > several months back that powered on and connected, even though it wasn't
> > > actually working. It took Network Magic to point me in this direction, where
> > > it showed up as an unnamed device. Unplugging it resulted in all issues
> > > disappearing. Why the simple existence of this device on the network would
> > > prevent Vista from networking with XP systems is beyond me. I also have a
> > > VOIP modem connected to the router, which apparently doesn't cause problems,
> > > but which I had tried disconnecting anyway.
>
> > > "Robert L [MVP - Networking]" wrote:
>
> > > > Samski,
>
> > > > Thank you for the detail feedback.
>
> > > > Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> > > > Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting onhttp://www.ChicagoTech.net
> > > > How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access onhttp://www.HowToNetworking.com
> > > > "Samski" <Sam...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in messagenews:07BA9115-E6D6-472C-B880-4D4FCCA86484@microsoft.com...
> > > > WAHOO! Its working. I disabled my firewall and booted the main pc and it
> > > > popped up all working in myt network place... Dont know whether the pcs just
> > > > needed a reboot or it was the firewall... Have now reconnected firewall and
> > > > all is loverly. Here are my settings (i hope they help):
>
> > > > Network discovery: on
> > > > File sharing: on
> > > > public folder sharing: off
> > > > printer sharing: on (password protected)
> > > > Password protected sharing: on
> > > > Media sharing: off
>
> > > > I also changed my workgroup name from WORKGROUP to MSHOME and briefly turned
> > > > of my firewall (dont know how important that it). DID NOT disable anything in
> > > > my wireless connection properties, all the tcp lltd tc things are ticked.
>
> > > > I think microsoft could have atleast included something to detect worgroup
> > > > names etc.
>
> > > > oh well... good look to you guys!
>
> > > > sam
>
> > > > "Mike S." wrote:
>
> > > > > Bob, come on, please take this a little more seriously. I have tried every
> > > > > imaginable fix for this, including this one. All I really want to do is
> > > > > connect thsi stupid Vista machine to my printer.
>
> > > > > "Robert L [MVP - Networking]" wrote:
>
> > > > > > Make sure all computers are in the same workgroup. Also make sure enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP. These troubleshooting may help,
>
> > > > > > Step by step troubleshooting VISTA sharing
> > > > > >http://www.chicagotech.net/forum1.htm
>
> > > > > > Vista Troubleshooting Collections
> > > > > >http://www.chicagotech.net/forum1.htm
>
> > > > > > Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> > > > > > Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting onhttp://www.ChicagoTech.net
> > > > > > How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access onhttp://www.HowToNetworking.com
> > > > > > "Bill Fry" <Bill...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in messagenews:450229BE-7ADF-4BBB-B102-F71EDF9EFC24@microsoft.com...
> > > > > > I have 3 PC's, and 2 Notebooks on a home network. I purchased a Vista
> > > > > > Machine and can not see the XP Pro Machines. I have upgraded one machine to
> > > > > > Vista and can see the other Vista machine, but still can not see the XP
> > > > > > Boxes. All have file sharing and all have the same Workgroup Name.
>
> > > > > > I can ping the machines, just not connect to them- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Thanks for that suggestion:

Im using pc-cillin i was using the wireless security profile in my
firewall, i changed it to home network and all is great now! Hope this
helps someone!

Vista is on my laptop that I using wirelessly. I managed to fix the
visibility of my XP machines issue by "trusting" the wireless network.
I did this within the Personal Firewall configuration of Norton.

1. go to the "Internet Security and Firewall Options".
2. under Personal Firewall go to Trust Control
3. you should see your wireless networks listed here.
4. trust the appropriate networks.

HTH


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sladey