One machine sees server, one doesn't

I just purchased two new identical machines. I have a home LAN running W2k
Server. (downgraded from a domain to a workgroup).
One machine sees the server no problem. I can connect to drives and use the
printer.
One machine refuses to see the server. When I go Run and type in
\\ipaddress, it shows up. When I try to browse for it, it never shows up.
Both machines on same LAN, same WORKGROUP. I've clicked everything I can
find but the one machine just won't find the server. I'm baffled.

Do you have other security software? what do you receive is using net view
\\ipaddress?

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"VexedByVista" <VexedByVista@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:934A0AB3-A5B2-443A-8C71-CB0512E0F4E6@microsoft.com...
>I just purchased two new identical machines. I have a home LAN running W2k
> Server. (downgraded from a domain to a workgroup).
> One machine sees the server no problem. I can connect to drives and use
> the
> printer.
> One machine refuses to see the server. When I go Run and type in
> \\ipaddress, it shows up. When I try to browse for it, it never shows up.
> Both machines on same LAN, same WORKGROUP. I've clicked everything I can
> find but the one machine just won't find the server. I'm baffled.

On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:38:01 -0800, VexedByVista
<VexedByVista@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>I just purchased two new identical machines. I have a home LAN running W2k
>Server. (downgraded from a domain to a workgroup).
>One machine sees the server no problem. I can connect to drives and use the
>printer.
>One machine refuses to see the server. When I go Run and type in
>\\ipaddress, it shows up. When I try to browse for it, it never shows up.
>Both machines on same LAN, same WORKGROUP. I've clicked everything I can
>find but the one machine just won't find the server. I'm baffled.

You started the Network wizard, and selected "Private" for Network Location
Type?
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/12/windows-xp-and-vista-on-lan-together.html#VistaServer>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/1...ml#VistaServer

If you're done that already, let's try and diagnose the problem using logs from
"browstat status", "ipconfig /all", "net config server", and "net config
workstation", from each computer. Read this article, and linked articles, and
follow instructions precisely (Download browstat, and start a Vista command
window as an admin!):
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...#AskingForHelp

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.

Norton is (factory) installed on both machines.
Running 'net view ipaddress' on the offending machine lists the shared drive
and the printer, showing the same display as the working machine.

"Robert L. (MS-MVP)" wrote:

> Do you have other security software? what do you receive is using net view
> \\ipaddress?

Yes, both machines have all the same settings in every networking place I can
find. IPCONFIG is listing the same subnet, same gateway, same DNS servers,
same NETbios settings. The only difference is the IP address they pick up
from DHCP.

I'll check out the links, but I can't find any setting that's different
between the two machines. Mine sees the server - my wife's won't. She thinks
I did it on purpose!


> You started the Network wizard, and selected "Private" for Network Location
> Type?
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/12/windows-xp-and-vista-on-lan-together.html#VistaServer>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/1...ml#VistaServer
>
> If you're done that already, let's try and diagnose the problem using logs from
> "browstat status", "ipconfig /all", "net config server", and "net config
> workstation", from each computer. Read this article, and linked articles, and
> follow instructions precisely (Download browstat, and start a Vista command
> window as an admin!):
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...#AskingForHelp
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking]
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> My email is AT DOT
> actual address pchuck mvps org.
>

"VexedByVista" wrote:

> Yes, both machines have all the same settings in every networking place I can
> find. IPCONFIG is listing the same subnet, same gateway, same DNS servers,
> same NETbios settings. The only difference is the IP address they pick up
> from DHCP.
>
> I'll check out the links, but I can't find any setting that's different
> between the two machines. Mine sees the server - my wife's won't. She thinks
> I did it on purpose!
>

I ran ipconfig, net config, downloaded browstat and ran that as well, on
both machines. Put everything into text files, printed them off and compared
them.
Browstat on both machines says 'unable to query browser statistics: 87'.

There's only difference I can find. Good machine lists Connection 6 as the
tunneling pseudo-thingy and Connection 7 as my ISP. Bad machine has the two
reversed.

On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:51:03 -0800, VexedByVista
<VexedByVista@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>> You started the Network wizard, and selected "Private" for Network Location
>> Type?
>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/12/windows-xp-and-vista-on-lan-together.html#VistaServer>
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/1...ml#VistaServer
>>
>> If you're done that already, let's try and diagnose the problem using logs from
>> "browstat status", "ipconfig /all", "net config server", and "net config
>> workstation", from each computer. Read this article, and linked articles, and
>> follow instructions precisely (Download browstat, and start a Vista command
>> window as an admin!):
>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...#AskingForHelp

>Yes, both machines have all the same settings in every networking place I can
>find. IPCONFIG is listing the same subnet, same gateway, same DNS servers,
>same NETbios settings. The only difference is the IP address they pick up
>from DHCP.
>
>I'll check out the links, but I can't find any setting that's different
>between the two machines. Mine sees the server - my wife's won't. She thinks
>I did it on purpose!
>

The settings are where you start. Then you move to the diagnostics - "browstat
status", "net config server" and "net config workstation". If you don't spot
anything, you post them here, and see if anybody else can spot something.

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.

I gave up. It was less frustrating to go buy her a printer than to continue
messing with Vista. I'm about *this close* from nuking Vista and taking my
chances with Linux.