Can't see other computers on Network

I have a Vista Home Premium Laptop and a Vista Ultimate PC. Both are
connected to the same network and workgroup. The laptop is wireless and the
PC is wired. If I connect the laptop to the PC with a crossover cable I have
no problems with the network. Both computers have sharing enabled for all
but Password and Media.

Any ideas on where to start

Can they ping each other by IP?

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"WilliamW" <WilliamW@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:ED556A1F-F1D2-4830-97CB-34DD46D534C6@microsoft.com...
>I have a Vista Home Premium Laptop and a Vista Ultimate PC. Both are
> connected to the same network and workgroup. The laptop is wireless and
> the
> PC is wired. If I connect the laptop to the PC with a crossover cable I
> have
> no problems with the network. Both computers have sharing enabled for all
> but Password and Media.
>
> Any ideas on where to start

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx

Have a read of the above link re Vista File and Printer Sharing.
How to give Permissions are there, too.
If you are running Norton, etc’s Firewall, check its settings.

1st thing to do is make sure that the Workgroup Name of ALL the computers is
the SAME.

In Vista Network and Sharing:

Network Discovery: ON (So it can see the other computers)

Network set to Private (Public is for hotspots, airports, etc)

File Sharing: ON

Public Folder Sharing: ON (Vista’s Public Folder is the same as XP’s Shared
Docs)

Password Protected: OFF (unless you want to set up identical usernames and
passwords on ALL computers in your Network) If you have it ON, you will be
asked for a username and password when you try to access a Vista computer
from an XP computer.




"WilliamW" wrote:

> I have a Vista Home Premium Laptop and a Vista Ultimate PC. Both are
> connected to the same network and workgroup. The laptop is wireless and the
> PC is wired. If I connect the laptop to the PC with a crossover cable I have
> no problems with the network. Both computers have sharing enabled for all
> but Password and Media.
>
> Any ideas on where to start

I'm not 100% sure how to ping the laptop from the PC or vice versa. I was
able to ping the gateway.

"Robert L. (MS-MVP)" wrote:

> Can they ping each other by IP?
>
> --
> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
> http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
> http://www.HowToNetworking.com
>
>
> "WilliamW" <WilliamW@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:ED556A1F-F1D2-4830-97CB-34DD46D534C6@microsoft.com...
> >I have a Vista Home Premium Laptop and a Vista Ultimate PC. Both are
> > connected to the same network and workgroup. The laptop is wireless and
> > the
> > PC is wired. If I connect the laptop to the PC with a crossover cable I
> > have
> > no problems with the network. Both computers have sharing enabled for all
> > but Password and Media.
> >
> > Any ideas on where to start
>
>

I reviewed the link and verified all the items listed there are executed -
permissions are set to Everyone on both computers. Password Protection is
disabled on both. All sharing except Media are enabled on both. Both are in
the same workgroup (even checked for typos) with Network Discovery enabled.
Both are set to private network. Both Link Layer items are checked in the
connection properties on both computers.

Both are using Windows firewall with FIle and Printer Sharing and Network
Discovery checked in the exceptions list.

I can even access the gateway address from both computers (192.168.0.1) and
do have internet access on both.

"Mick Murphy" wrote:

> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx
>
> Have a read of the above link re Vista File and Printer Sharing.
> How to give Permissions are there, too.
> If you are running Norton, etc’s Firewall, check its settings.
>
> 1st thing to do is make sure that the Workgroup Name of ALL the computers is
> the SAME.
>
> In Vista Network and Sharing:
>
> Network Discovery: ON (So it can see the other computers)
>
> Network set to Private (Public is for hotspots, airports, etc)
>
> File Sharing: ON
>
> Public Folder Sharing: ON (Vista’s Public Folder is the same as XP’s Shared
> Docs)
>
> Password Protected: OFF (unless you want to set up identical usernames and
> passwords on ALL computers in your Network) If you have it ON, you will be
> asked for a username and password when you try to access a Vista computer
> from an XP computer.
>
>
>
>
> "WilliamW" wrote:
>
> > I have a Vista Home Premium Laptop and a Vista Ultimate PC. Both are
> > connected to the same network and workgroup. The laptop is wireless and the
> > PC is wired. If I connect the laptop to the PC with a crossover cable I have
> > no problems with the network. Both computers have sharing enabled for all
> > but Password and Media.
> >
> > Any ideas on where to start

Go to each computer, type ipconfig. You will find each computer's IP.

--
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Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
http://www.HowToNetworking.com


"WilliamW" <WilliamW@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1E998C38-A1DA-47DC-8A29-5A0D7A10C56E@microsoft.com...
> I'm not 100% sure how to ping the laptop from the PC or vice versa. I was
> able to ping the gateway.
>
> "Robert L. (MS-MVP)" wrote:
>
>> Can they ping each other by IP?
>>
>> --
>> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
>> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
>> http://www.ChicagoTech.net
>> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
>> http://www.HowToNetworking.com
>>
>>
>> "WilliamW" <WilliamW@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:ED556A1F-F1D2-4830-97CB-34DD46D534C6@microsoft.com...
>> >I have a Vista Home Premium Laptop and a Vista Ultimate PC. Both are
>> > connected to the same network and workgroup. The laptop is wireless
>> > and
>> > the
>> > PC is wired. If I connect the laptop to the PC with a crossover cable
>> > I
>> > have
>> > no problems with the network. Both computers have sharing enabled for
>> > all
>> > but Password and Media.
>> >
>> > Any ideas on where to start
>>
>>

my PC (wired) was able to ping the laptop, but the laptop(wireless) was
unable to ping the PC.

"Robert L. (MS-MVP)" wrote:

> Go to each computer, type ipconfig. You will find each computer's IP.
>
> --
> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
> http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
> http://www.HowToNetworking.com
>
>
> "WilliamW" <WilliamW@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:1E998C38-A1DA-47DC-8A29-5A0D7A10C56E@microsoft.com...
> > I'm not 100% sure how to ping the laptop from the PC or vice versa. I was
> > able to ping the gateway.
> >
> > "Robert L. (MS-MVP)" wrote:
> >
> >> Can they ping each other by IP?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> >> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
> >> http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> >> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
> >> http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> >>
> >>
> >> "WilliamW" <WilliamW@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:ED556A1F-F1D2-4830-97CB-34DD46D534C6@microsoft.com...
> >> >I have a Vista Home Premium Laptop and a Vista Ultimate PC. Both are
> >> > connected to the same network and workgroup. The laptop is wireless
> >> > and
> >> > the
> >> > PC is wired. If I connect the laptop to the PC with a crossover cable
> >> > I
> >> > have
> >> > no problems with the network. Both computers have sharing enabled for
> >> > all
> >> > but Password and Media.
> >> >
> >> > Any ideas on where to start
> >>
> >>
>
>

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6000]
Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\Nestor>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Nestor-Laptop
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : mygateway.net

Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : mygateway.net
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) Wireless WiFi Link 4965AGN
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1D-E0-23-D2-87
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::c959:2e3a:cdb9:b08a%12(Preferred)
Autoconfiguration IPv4 Address. . : 169.254.176.138(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 335551968
DHCPv6 Client DUID. . . . . . . . :
00-01-00-01-0E-ED-25-E3-00-1B-24-D5-E0-1B

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::c959:2e3a:cdb9:b08a%12
192.168.0.1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : mygateway.net
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8101E Family PCI-E Fast
Ethern
et NIC (NDIS 6.0)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1B-24-D5-E0-1B
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 7:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : mygateway.net
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.mygateway.net
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . :
fe80::5efe:169.254.176.138%14(Preferred)

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::c959:2e3a:cdb9:b08a%12
192.168.0.1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 12:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 6TO4 Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 16:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

"Robert L. (MS-MVP)" wrote:

> Go to each computer, type ipconfig. You will find each computer's IP.
>
> --
> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
> http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
> http://www.HowToNetworking.com
>
>
> "WilliamW" <WilliamW@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:1E998C38-A1DA-47DC-8A29-5A0D7A10C56E@microsoft.com...
> > I'm not 100% sure how to ping the laptop from the PC or vice versa. I was
> > able to ping the gateway.
> >
> > "Robert L. (MS-MVP)" wrote:
> >
> >> Can they ping each other by IP?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> >> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
> >> http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> >> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
> >> http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> >>
> >>
> >> "WilliamW" <WilliamW@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:ED556A1F-F1D2-4830-97CB-34DD46D534C6@microsoft.com...
> >> >I have a Vista Home Premium Laptop and a Vista Ultimate PC. Both are
> >> > connected to the same network and workgroup. The laptop is wireless
> >> > and
> >> > the
> >> > PC is wired. If I connect the laptop to the PC with a crossover cable
> >> > I
> >> > have
> >> > no problems with the network. Both computers have sharing enabled for
> >> > all
> >> > but Password and Media.
> >> >
> >> > Any ideas on where to start
> >>
> >>
>
>

"Autoconfiguration IPv4 Address. . : 169.254.176.138(Preferred)" is the
problem. You may want to check if there is a new firmware for the router or
a new driver for the NIC. Otherwise, you may try to disable Ipv6. This post
may help too.

Vista: unidentified networkTo my surprize, it was getting 169.254.90.121,
with a subnet mask of .... Vista: unidentified network The Network and
Sharing center will identify the ...
http://www.chicagotech.net/netforums...a9d9f b0d00cc


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"WilliamW" <WilliamW@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:126EF9AD-8E3D-49D6-9EB3-A3D71BCB96CD@microsoft.com...
> Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6000]
> Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
>
> C:\Users\Nestor>ipconfig /all
>
> Windows IP Configuration
>
> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Nestor-Laptop
> Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : mygateway.net
>
> Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection:
>
> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : mygateway.net
> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) Wireless WiFi Link 4965AGN
> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1D-E0-23-D2-87
> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . :
> fe80::c959:2e3a:cdb9:b08a%12(Preferred)
> Autoconfiguration IPv4 Address. . : 169.254.176.138(Preferred)
> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
> DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 335551968
> DHCPv6 Client DUID. . . . . . . . :
> 00-01-00-01-0E-ED-25-E3-00-1B-24-D5-E0-1B
>
> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::c959:2e3a:cdb9:b08a%12
> 192.168.0.1
> NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled
>
> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
>
> Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : mygateway.net
> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8101E Family PCI-E Fast
> Ethern
> et NIC (NDIS 6.0)
> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1B-24-D5-E0-1B
> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
>
> Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 7:
>
> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : mygateway.net
> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.mygateway.net
> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . :
> fe80::5efe:169.254.176.138%14(Preferred)
>
> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::c959:2e3a:cdb9:b08a%12
> 192.168.0.1
> NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
>
> Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 12:
>
> Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 6TO4 Adapter
> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
>
> Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 16:
>
> Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01
> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
>
> "Robert L. (MS-MVP)" wrote:
>
>> Go to each computer, type ipconfig. You will find each computer's IP.
>>
>> --
>> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
>> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
>> http://www.ChicagoTech.net
>> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
>> http://www.HowToNetworking.com
>>
>>
>> "WilliamW" <WilliamW@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:1E998C38-A1DA-47DC-8A29-5A0D7A10C56E@microsoft.com...
>> > I'm not 100% sure how to ping the laptop from the PC or vice versa. I
>> > was
>> > able to ping the gateway.
>> >
>> > "Robert L. (MS-MVP)" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Can they ping each other by IP?
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
>> >> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
>> >> http://www.ChicagoTech.net
>> >> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
>> >> http://www.HowToNetworking.com
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "WilliamW" <WilliamW@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:ED556A1F-F1D2-4830-97CB-34DD46D534C6@microsoft.com...
>> >> >I have a Vista Home Premium Laptop and a Vista Ultimate PC. Both are
>> >> > connected to the same network and workgroup. The laptop is wireless
>> >> > and
>> >> > the
>> >> > PC is wired. If I connect the laptop to the PC with a crossover
>> >> > cable
>> >> > I
>> >> > have
>> >> > no problems with the network. Both computers have sharing enabled
>> >> > for
>> >> > all
>> >> > but Password and Media.
>> >> >
>> >> > Any ideas on where to start
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>

I have similar problem. I have three computers connected to the network. One
computer is using XP, second one W98 and the last one Vista home premium. I
can see other computer from both W98 and Xp. However, I am not able to see XP
and W98 from Vista. All sharings except media and password are ON. I would
like to see other computers from Vista and share printer from W98 and XP. Any
idea to resolve the problem.

Thanks

Azadeh
"WilliamW" wrote:

> I reviewed the link and verified all the items listed there are executed -
> permissions are set to Everyone on both computers. Password Protection is
> disabled on both. All sharing except Media are enabled on both. Both are in
> the same workgroup (even checked for typos) with Network Discovery enabled.
> Both are set to private network. Both Link Layer items are checked in the
> connection properties on both computers.
>
> Both are using Windows firewall with FIle and Printer Sharing and Network
> Discovery checked in the exceptions list.
>
> I can even access the gateway address from both computers (192.168.0.1) and
> do have internet access on both.
>
> "Mick Murphy" wrote:
>
> > http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx
> >
> > Have a read of the above link re Vista File and Printer Sharing.
> > How to give Permissions are there, too.
> > If you are running Norton, etc’s Firewall, check its settings.
> >
> > 1st thing to do is make sure that the Workgroup Name of ALL the computers is
> > the SAME.
> >
> > In Vista Network and Sharing:
> >
> > Network Discovery: ON (So it can see the other computers)
> >
> > Network set to Private (Public is for hotspots, airports, etc)
> >
> > File Sharing: ON
> >
> > Public Folder Sharing: ON (Vista’s Public Folder is the same as XP’s Shared
> > Docs)
> >
> > Password Protected: OFF (unless you want to set up identical usernames and
> > passwords on ALL computers in your Network) If you have it ON, you will be
> > asked for a username and password when you try to access a Vista computer
> > from an XP computer.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "WilliamW" wrote:
> >
> > > I have a Vista Home Premium Laptop and a Vista Ultimate PC. Both are
> > > connected to the same network and workgroup. The laptop is wireless and the
> > > PC is wired. If I connect the laptop to the PC with a crossover cable I have
> > > no problems with the network. Both computers have sharing enabled for all
> > > but Password and Media.
> > >
> > > Any ideas on where to start