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Old 09-16-2007
Mikey43
 

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Unidentified Network Issues
I have tried every suggestion on this and other tech net sites with zero
results.

I bought an HP Pavilion three weeks ago and righ out of the box, the
on-board NIC (Intel Pro-100) shows up as "Unidentified Network (Public
Network)" I can change it to Private, but cannot rename it. It reverts back
to public on a reboot. ICS does not work well if the internal netwrok is a
public network. After any reboot, I have to reset the network to "Private"

- I have downloaded updated drivers for the NIC. Didn't work.
- I have disabled IPv6 (Doesn't appear to work anyway - system would give
itself an internal private adress and the toredo tunnel doesn't show up.)
Didn't work.
- Turned off Windows firewall, Didn't work.
-- Turned it back on. didn't work
- Internal NIC will not accept a default gateway because the IP address
assigned to it by ICS is the gateway.
- Disabled on-board NIC and inserted a separate NIC (Realtek 8139) Driver
dated July 2007.
- On-board wireless is disabled.

IPCONFIG /ALL below:

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Gateway
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : USB Wireless 802.11 b/g Adaptor
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-C0-A8-F3-60-38
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Ethernet adapter Wired-Wireless:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast
Ethernet
NIC
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-B0-4C-39-17-49
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 68.28.178.11
68.28.186.11
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

PPP adapter Sprint Mobile Broadband - Novatel Wireless:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Sprint Mobile Broadband - Novatel
Wireles
s
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . :
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 70.3.189.2(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled


Thanks,
Mike
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Old 09-16-2007
Robert L [MVP - Networking]
 

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Re: Unidentified Network Issues
The multihomed Vista may receive "Unidentified network" message if it is configured incorrectly. In your case, I don't see the default gateway or it is 0.0.0.0. I would disable the ICS and setup just one connection to make sure it works.

These links may help too.

Multihomed Vista may receive "Unidentified network"
http://www.chicagotech.net/netforums...pic.php?t=1578

Vista: unidentified networkto 'Unidentified Network'. So, I ran the network diagnostic tool, and it gave me three options . 'Automatically get new IP settings' which did not solve the ...
http://www.chicagotech.net/netforums...a9d9f b0d00cc

View topic - Vista: Unidentified network when ...
You may see "Unidentified network" if you use ISP public IP, DNS without firewall. Or check this post for more troubleshooting. ...
http://www.chicagotech.net/netforums...f1d46 0675b73


Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"Mikey43" <Mikey43@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:2F80CE66-2B13-4F19-B643-815FA5520416@microsoft.com...
I have tried every suggestion on this and other tech net sites with zero
results.

I bought an HP Pavilion three weeks ago and righ out of the box, the
on-board NIC (Intel Pro-100) shows up as "Unidentified Network (Public
Network)" I can change it to Private, but cannot rename it. It reverts back
to public on a reboot. ICS does not work well if the internal netwrok is a
public network. After any reboot, I have to reset the network to "Private"

- I have downloaded updated drivers for the NIC. Didn't work.
- I have disabled IPv6 (Doesn't appear to work anyway - system would give
itself an internal private adress and the toredo tunnel doesn't show up.)
Didn't work.
- Turned off Windows firewall, Didn't work.
-- Turned it back on. didn't work
- Internal NIC will not accept a default gateway because the IP address
assigned to it by ICS is the gateway.
- Disabled on-board NIC and inserted a separate NIC (Realtek 8139) Driver
dated July 2007.
- On-board wireless is disabled.

IPCONFIG /ALL below:

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Gateway
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : USB Wireless 802.11 b/g Adaptor
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-C0-A8-F3-60-38
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Ethernet adapter Wired-Wireless:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast
Ethernet
NIC
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-B0-4C-39-17-49
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 68.28.178.11
68.28.186.11
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

PPP adapter Sprint Mobile Broadband - Novatel Wireless:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Sprint Mobile Broadband - Novatel
Wireles
s
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . :
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 70.3.189.2(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled


Thanks,
Mike
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Old 09-17-2007
Mikey43
 

Posts: n/a
Re: Unidentified Network Issues
The adapter: PPP adapter Sprint Mobile Broadband - Novatel Wireless:
is my dialup modem (Sprint AirCard) that provides our household internet
access.

The adapter:
Ethernet adapter Wired-Wireless:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast
Is going to my wirless router which is how our other computers connect to
this computer in order to get out to the internet.

- This NIC will not accept a default gateway because it IS the default
gateway for my home network to get to the internet.

MY ISP (Sprint) has decided to NOT assign a default gateway through their
DHCP server, therefore there is no default gateway on my internet connection.

I don't have the luxury of being able to connect a router directly to my
internet connection. My PCMCIA card for accessing the internet must be
connected to a computer. There is a router out there that will accept my
AirCard, but it is over $200 and it doesn't allow VPN tunneling (something I
use to maintain my enterprise of 72,000 systems after hours).

I read somewhere else in one of these threads that Microsoft designed Vista
to not allow private networks on any systems that already have a public
network. If microsoft believes that everyone has the capability to tie into a
DSL or cable modem, they are sadly mistaken. There are millions of Americans
that cannot get any of that. Instead we are stuck with Satellite, Cellular,
or (even worse) landline modems. I recently had to use a landline modem and
it was slower than watching grass grow. Sprint AirCards are the fastest thing
in this neck of the woods and that was only after placing a directional beam
antenna on top of a 40 foot pole pointed at the nearest CDMA tower.

Bottom line: I have to have the PPP Adapter to Sprint and I have to have one
NIC operational in addition to that.

If it's any consolation....I can change the name of my true Public network
all day long. I want to change the name of my Private network AND!!!! I would
like it to stay private after a reboot of the system.

I have tried ALL the suggestions from ChicagoTech. They didn't help.

-Frustrated-
(MCP)


"Robert L [MVP - Networking]" wrote:

> The multihomed Vista may receive "Unidentified network" message if it is configured incorrectly. In your case, I don't see the default gateway or it is 0.0.0.0. I would disable the ICS and setup just one connection to make sure it works.
>
> These links may help too.
>
> Multihomed Vista may receive "Unidentified network"
> http://www.chicagotech.net/netforums...pic.php?t=1578
>
> Vista: unidentified networkto 'Unidentified Network'. So, I ran the network diagnostic tool, and it gave me three options . 'Automatically get new IP settings' which did not solve the ...
> http://www.chicagotech.net/netforums...a9d9f b0d00cc
>
> View topic - Vista: Unidentified network when ...
> You may see "Unidentified network" if you use ISP public IP, DNS without firewall. Or check this post for more troubleshooting. ...
> http://www.chicagotech.net/netforums...f1d46 0675b73
>
>
> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> "Mikey43" <Mikey43@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:2F80CE66-2B13-4F19-B643-815FA5520416@microsoft.com...
> I have tried every suggestion on this and other tech net sites with zero
> results.
>
> I bought an HP Pavilion three weeks ago and righ out of the box, the
> on-board NIC (Intel Pro-100) shows up as "Unidentified Network (Public
> Network)" I can change it to Private, but cannot rename it. It reverts back
> to public on a reboot. ICS does not work well if the internal netwrok is a
> public network. After any reboot, I have to reset the network to "Private"
>
> - I have downloaded updated drivers for the NIC. Didn't work.
> - I have disabled IPv6 (Doesn't appear to work anyway - system would give
> itself an internal private adress and the toredo tunnel doesn't show up.)
> Didn't work.
> - Turned off Windows firewall, Didn't work.
> -- Turned it back on. didn't work
> - Internal NIC will not accept a default gateway because the IP address
> assigned to it by ICS is the gateway.
> - Disabled on-board NIC and inserted a separate NIC (Realtek 8139) Driver
> dated July 2007.
> - On-board wireless is disabled.
>
> IPCONFIG /ALL below:
>
> Windows IP Configuration
>
> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Gateway
> Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>
> Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection:
>
> Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : USB Wireless 802.11 b/g Adaptor
> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-C0-A8-F3-60-38
> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
>
> Ethernet adapter Wired-Wireless:
>
> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast
> Ethernet
> NIC
> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-B0-4C-39-17-49
> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1(Preferred)
> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 68.28.178.11
> 68.28.186.11
> NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled
>
> PPP adapter Sprint Mobile Broadband - Novatel Wireless:
>
> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Sprint Mobile Broadband - Novatel
> Wireles
> s
> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . :
> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 70.3.189.2(Preferred)
> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
> NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled
>
>
> Thanks,
> Mike

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Old 09-17-2007
Robert L [MVP - Networking]
 

Posts: n/a
Re: Unidentified Network Issues
Posting back with the routing table may help.

Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"Mikey43" <Mikey43@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:EAB53F5E-D389-472C-BB7C-942928CDA7A5@microsoft.com...
The adapter: PPP adapter Sprint Mobile Broadband - Novatel Wireless:
is my dialup modem (Sprint AirCard) that provides our household internet
access.

The adapter:
Ethernet adapter Wired-Wireless:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast
Is going to my wirless router which is how our other computers connect to
this computer in order to get out to the internet.

- This NIC will not accept a default gateway because it IS the default
gateway for my home network to get to the internet.

MY ISP (Sprint) has decided to NOT assign a default gateway through their
DHCP server, therefore there is no default gateway on my internet connection.

I don't have the luxury of being able to connect a router directly to my
internet connection. My PCMCIA card for accessing the internet must be
connected to a computer. There is a router out there that will accept my
AirCard, but it is over $200 and it doesn't allow VPN tunneling (something I
use to maintain my enterprise of 72,000 systems after hours).

I read somewhere else in one of these threads that Microsoft designed Vista
to not allow private networks on any systems that already have a public
network. If microsoft believes that everyone has the capability to tie into a
DSL or cable modem, they are sadly mistaken. There are millions of Americans
that cannot get any of that. Instead we are stuck with Satellite, Cellular,
or (even worse) landline modems. I recently had to use a landline modem and
it was slower than watching grass grow. Sprint AirCards are the fastest thing
in this neck of the woods and that was only after placing a directional beam
antenna on top of a 40 foot pole pointed at the nearest CDMA tower.

Bottom line: I have to have the PPP Adapter to Sprint and I have to have one
NIC operational in addition to that.

If it's any consolation....I can change the name of my true Public network
all day long. I want to change the name of my Private network AND!!!! I would
like it to stay private after a reboot of the system.

I have tried ALL the suggestions from ChicagoTech. They didn't help.

-Frustrated-
(MCP)


"Robert L [MVP - Networking]" wrote:

> The multihomed Vista may receive "Unidentified network" message if it is configured incorrectly. In your case, I don't see the default gateway or it is 0.0.0.0. I would disable the ICS and setup just one connection to make sure it works.
>
> These links may help too.
>
> Multihomed Vista may receive "Unidentified network"
> http://www.chicagotech.net/netforums...pic.php?t=1578
>
> Vista: unidentified networkto 'Unidentified Network'. So, I ran the network diagnostic tool, and it gave me three options . 'Automatically get new IP settings' which did not solve the ...
> http://www.chicagotech.net/netforums...a9d9f b0d00cc
>
> View topic - Vista: Unidentified network when ...
> You may see "Unidentified network" if you use ISP public IP, DNS without firewall. Or check this post for more troubleshooting. ...
> http://www.chicagotech.net/netforums...f1d46 0675b73
>
>
> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> "Mikey43" <Mikey43@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:2F80CE66-2B13-4F19-B643-815FA5520416@microsoft.com...
> I have tried every suggestion on this and other tech net sites with zero
> results.
>
> I bought an HP Pavilion three weeks ago and righ out of the box, the
> on-board NIC (Intel Pro-100) shows up as "Unidentified Network (Public
> Network)" I can change it to Private, but cannot rename it. It reverts back
> to public on a reboot. ICS does not work well if the internal netwrok is a
> public network. After any reboot, I have to reset the network to "Private"
>
> - I have downloaded updated drivers for the NIC. Didn't work.
> - I have disabled IPv6 (Doesn't appear to work anyway - system would give
> itself an internal private adress and the toredo tunnel doesn't show up.)
> Didn't work.
> - Turned off Windows firewall, Didn't work.
> -- Turned it back on. didn't work
> - Internal NIC will not accept a default gateway because the IP address
> assigned to it by ICS is the gateway.
> - Disabled on-board NIC and inserted a separate NIC (Realtek 8139) Driver
> dated July 2007.
> - On-board wireless is disabled.
>
> IPCONFIG /ALL below:
>
> Windows IP Configuration
>
> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Gateway
> Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>
> Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection:
>
> Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : USB Wireless 802.11 b/g Adaptor
> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-C0-A8-F3-60-38
> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
>
> Ethernet adapter Wired-Wireless:
>
> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast
> Ethernet
> NIC
> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-B0-4C-39-17-49
> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1(Preferred)
> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 68.28.178.11
> 68.28.186.11
> NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled
>
> PPP adapter Sprint Mobile Broadband - Novatel Wireless:
>
> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Sprint Mobile Broadband - Novatel
> Wireles
> s
> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . :
> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 70.3.189.2(Preferred)
> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
> NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled
>
>
> Thanks,
> Mike

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Old 09-17-2007
Mikey43
 

Posts: n/a
Re: Unidentified Network Issues
Okay. Here ya go.

C:\Users\n0vnm>route print
================================================== =========================
Interface List
17 ........................... Sprint Mobile Broadband - Novatel Wireless
11 ...00 c0 a8 f3 60 38 ...... USB Wireless 802.11 b/g Adaptor
8 ...00 b0 00 00 17 49 ...... Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet NIC
1 ........................... Software Loopback Interface 1
================================================== =========================

IPv4 Route Table
================================================== =========================
Active Routes:
Network Destination Netmask Gateway Interface Metric
0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 On-link 70.14.178.62 41
68.28.185.69 255.255.255.255 68.28.185.69 70.14.178.62 41
70.14.178.62 255.255.255.255 On-link 70.14.178.62 296
127.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 On-link 127.0.0.1 4531
127.0.0.1 255.255.255.255 On-link 127.0.0.1 4531
127.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 On-link 127.0.0.1 4531
192.168.0.0 255.255.255.0 On-link 192.168.0.1 4501
192.168.0.1 255.255.255.255 On-link 192.168.0.1 4501
192.168.0.255 255.255.255.255 On-link 192.168.0.1 4501
224.0.0.0 240.0.0.0 On-link 127.0.0.1 4531
224.0.0.0 240.0.0.0 On-link 192.168.0.1 4503
224.0.0.0 240.0.0.0 On-link 70.14.178.62 41
255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 On-link 127.0.0.1 4531
255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 On-link 192.168.0.1 4501
255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 On-link 70.14.178.62 296
================================================== =========================
Persistent Routes:
Network Address Netmask Gateway Address Metric
0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 192.168.0.1 Default
0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 192.168.0.1 Default
================================================== =========================

IPv6 Route Table
================================================== =========================
Active Routes:
If Metric Network Destination Gateway
1 306 ::1/128 On-link
1 306 ff00::/8 On-link
================================================== =========================
Persistent Routes:
None


"Robert L [MVP - Networking]" wrote:

> Posting back with the routing table may help.
>
> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> "Mikey43" <Mikey43@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:EAB53F5E-D389-472C-BB7C-942928CDA7A5@microsoft.com...
> The adapter: PPP adapter Sprint Mobile Broadband - Novatel Wireless:
> is my dialup modem (Sprint AirCard) that provides our household internet
> access.
>
> The adapter:
> Ethernet adapter Wired-Wireless:
>
> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast
> Is going to my wirless router which is how our other computers connect to
> this computer in order to get out to the internet.
>
> - This NIC will not accept a default gateway because it IS the default
> gateway for my home network to get to the internet.
>
> MY ISP (Sprint) has decided to NOT assign a default gateway through their
> DHCP server, therefore there is no default gateway on my internet connection.
>
> I don't have the luxury of being able to connect a router directly to my
> internet connection. My PCMCIA card for accessing the internet must be
> connected to a computer. There is a router out there that will accept my
> AirCard, but it is over $200 and it doesn't allow VPN tunneling (something I
> use to maintain my enterprise of 72,000 systems after hours).
>
> I read somewhere else in one of these threads that Microsoft designed Vista
> to not allow private networks on any systems that already have a public
> network. If microsoft believes that everyone has the capability to tie into a
> DSL or cable modem, they are sadly mistaken. There are millions of Americans
> that cannot get any of that. Instead we are stuck with Satellite, Cellular,
> or (even worse) landline modems. I recently had to use a landline modem and
> it was slower than watching grass grow. Sprint AirCards are the fastest thing
> in this neck of the woods and that was only after placing a directional beam
> antenna on top of a 40 foot pole pointed at the nearest CDMA tower.
>
> Bottom line: I have to have the PPP Adapter to Sprint and I have to have one
> NIC operational in addition to that.
>
> If it's any consolation....I can change the name of my true Public network
> all day long. I want to change the name of my Private network AND!!!! I would
> like it to stay private after a reboot of the system.
>
> I have tried ALL the suggestions from ChicagoTech. They didn't help.
>
> -Frustrated-
> (MCP)
>
>
> "Robert L [MVP - Networking]" wrote:
>
> > The multihomed Vista may receive "Unidentified network" message if it is configured incorrectly. In your case, I don't see the default gateway or it is 0.0.0.0. I would disable the ICS and setup just one connection to make sure it works.
> >
> > These links may help too.
> >
> > Multihomed Vista may receive "Unidentified network"
> > http://www.chicagotech.net/netforums...pic.php?t=1578
> >
> > Vista: unidentified networkto 'Unidentified Network'. So, I ran the network diagnostic tool, and it gave me three options . 'Automatically get new IP settings' which did not solve the ...
> > http://www.chicagotech.net/netforums...a9d9f b0d00cc
> >
> > View topic - Vista: Unidentified network when ...
> > You may see "Unidentified network" if you use ISP public IP, DNS without firewall. Or check this post for more troubleshooting. ...
> > http://www.chicagotech.net/netforums...f1d46 0675b73
> >
> >
> > Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> > Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> > How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> > "Mikey43" <Mikey43@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:2F80CE66-2B13-4F19-B643-815FA5520416@microsoft.com...
> > I have tried every suggestion on this and other tech net sites with zero
> > results.
> >
> > I bought an HP Pavilion three weeks ago and righ out of the box, the
> > on-board NIC (Intel Pro-100) shows up as "Unidentified Network (Public
> > Network)" I can change it to Private, but cannot rename it. It reverts back
> > to public on a reboot. ICS does not work well if the internal netwrok is a
> > public network. After any reboot, I have to reset the network to "Private"
> >
> > - I have downloaded updated drivers for the NIC. Didn't work.
> > - I have disabled IPv6 (Doesn't appear to work anyway - system would give
> > itself an internal private adress and the toredo tunnel doesn't show up.)
> > Didn't work.
> > - Turned off Windows firewall, Didn't work.
> > -- Turned it back on. didn't work
> > - Internal NIC will not accept a default gateway because the IP address
> > assigned to it by ICS is the gateway.
> > - Disabled on-board NIC and inserted a separate NIC (Realtek 8139) Driver
> > dated July 2007.
> > - On-board wireless is disabled.
> >
> > IPCONFIG /ALL below:
> >
> > Windows IP Configuration
> >
> > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Gateway
> > Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
> > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
> > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> >
> > Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection:
> >
> > Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
> > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : USB Wireless 802.11 b/g Adaptor
> > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-C0-A8-F3-60-38
> > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
> > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> >
> > Ethernet adapter Wired-Wireless:
> >
> > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast
> > Ethernet
> > NIC
> > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-B0-4C-39-17-49
> > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
> > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> > IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1(Preferred)
> > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
> > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 68.28.178.11
> > 68.28.186.11
> > NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled
> >
> > PPP adapter Sprint Mobile Broadband - Novatel Wireless:
> >
> > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Sprint Mobile Broadband - Novatel
> > Wireles
> > s
> > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . :
> > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
> > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> > IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 70.3.189.2(Preferred)
> > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
> > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
> > NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mike

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Old 09-18-2007
Mikey43
 

Posts: n/a
Re: Unidentified Network Issues
Bob,

Thanks for your help. I reactivated the (onboard) IntelPro 100+ into the
systems and it is working great. Don't know why it wouldn't before, maybe
just had to be reinitialized. This time it did install a different driver
than the one it came with.

I now have my Private Network that says HOME and it stays on restart.

-mike-
MCP

"Robert L [MVP - Networking]" wrote:

> Posting back with the routing table may help.
>
> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> "Mikey43" <Mikey43@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:EAB53F5E-D389-472C-BB7C-942928CDA7A5@microsoft.com...
> The adapter: PPP adapter Sprint Mobile Broadband - Novatel Wireless:
> is my dialup modem (Sprint AirCard) that provides our household internet
> access.
>
> The adapter:
> Ethernet adapter Wired-Wireless:
>
> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast
> Is going to my wirless router which is how our other computers connect to
> this computer in order to get out to the internet.
>
> - This NIC will not accept a default gateway because it IS the default
> gateway for my home network to get to the internet.
>
> MY ISP (Sprint) has decided to NOT assign a default gateway through their
> DHCP server, therefore there is no default gateway on my internet connection.
>
> I don't have the luxury of being able to connect a router directly to my
> internet connection. My PCMCIA card for accessing the internet must be
> connected to a computer. There is a router out there that will accept my
> AirCard, but it is over $200 and it doesn't allow VPN tunneling (something I
> use to maintain my enterprise of 72,000 systems after hours).
>
> I read somewhere else in one of these threads that Microsoft designed Vista
> to not allow private networks on any systems that already have a public
> network. If microsoft believes that everyone has the capability to tie into a
> DSL or cable modem, they are sadly mistaken. There are millions of Americans
> that cannot get any of that. Instead we are stuck with Satellite, Cellular,
> or (even worse) landline modems. I recently had to use a landline modem and
> it was slower than watching grass grow. Sprint AirCards are the fastest thing
> in this neck of the woods and that was only after placing a directional beam
> antenna on top of a 40 foot pole pointed at the nearest CDMA tower.
>
> Bottom line: I have to have the PPP Adapter to Sprint and I have to have one
> NIC operational in addition to that.
>
> If it's any consolation....I can change the name of my true Public network
> all day long. I want to change the name of my Private network AND!!!! I would
> like it to stay private after a reboot of the system.
>
> I have tried ALL the suggestions from ChicagoTech. They didn't help.
>
> -Frustrated-
> (MCP)
>
>
> "Robert L [MVP - Networking]" wrote:
>
> > The multihomed Vista may receive "Unidentified network" message if it is configured incorrectly. In your case, I don't see the default gateway or it is 0.0.0.0. I would disable the ICS and setup just one connection to make sure it works.
> >
> > These links may help too.
> >
> > Multihomed Vista may receive "Unidentified network"
> > http://www.chicagotech.net/netforums...pic.php?t=1578
> >
> > Vista: unidentified networkto 'Unidentified Network'. So, I ran the network diagnostic tool, and it gave me three options . 'Automatically get new IP settings' which did not solve the ...
> > http://www.chicagotech.net/netforums...a9d9f b0d00cc
> >
> > View topic - Vista: Unidentified network when ...
> > You may see "Unidentified network" if you use ISP public IP, DNS without firewall. Or check this post for more troubleshooting. ...
> > http://www.chicagotech.net/netforums...f1d46 0675b73
> >
> >
> > Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> > Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> > How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> > "Mikey43" <Mikey43@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:2F80CE66-2B13-4F19-B643-815FA5520416@microsoft.com...
> > I have tried every suggestion on this and other tech net sites with zero
> > results.
> >
> > I bought an HP Pavilion three weeks ago and righ out of the box, the
> > on-board NIC (Intel Pro-100) shows up as "Unidentified Network (Public
> > Network)" I can change it to Private, but cannot rename it. It reverts back
> > to public on a reboot. ICS does not work well if the internal netwrok is a
> > public network. After any reboot, I have to reset the network to "Private"
> >
> > - I have downloaded updated drivers for the NIC. Didn't work.
> > - I have disabled IPv6 (Doesn't appear to work anyway - system would give
> > itself an internal private adress and the toredo tunnel doesn't show up.)
> > Didn't work.
> > - Turned off Windows firewall, Didn't work.
> > -- Turned it back on. didn't work
> > - Internal NIC will not accept a default gateway because the IP address
> > assigned to it by ICS is the gateway.
> > - Disabled on-board NIC and inserted a separate NIC (Realtek 8139) Driver
> > dated July 2007.
> > - On-board wireless is disabled.
> >
> > IPCONFIG /ALL below:
> >
> > Windows IP Configuration
> >
> > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Gateway
> > Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
> > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
> > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> >
> > Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection:
> >
> > Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
> > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : USB Wireless 802.11 b/g Adaptor
> > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-C0-A8-F3-60-38
> > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
> > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> >
> > Ethernet adapter Wired-Wireless:
> >
> > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast
> > Ethernet
> > NIC
> > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-B0-4C-39-17-49
> > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
> > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> > IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1(Preferred)
> > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
> > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 68.28.178.11
> > 68.28.186.11
> > NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled
> >
> > PPP adapter Sprint Mobile Broadband - Novatel Wireless:
> >
> > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Sprint Mobile Broadband - Novatel
> > Wireles
> > s
> > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . :
> > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
> > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> > IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 70.3.189.2(Preferred)
> > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
> > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
> > NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mike

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Old 09-19-2007
Robert L [MVP - Networking]
 

Posts: n/a
Re: Unidentified Network Issues
Thank you for the update.

Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"Mikey43" <Mikey43@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:C78D9F91-EEF7-4155-9CFB-A08ECE413CFB@microsoft.com...
Bob,

Thanks for your help. I reactivated the (onboard) IntelPro 100+ into the
systems and it is working great. Don't know why it wouldn't before, maybe
just had to be reinitialized. This time it did install a different driver
than the one it came with.

I now have my Private Network that says HOME and it stays on restart.

-mike-
MCP

"Robert L [MVP - Networking]" wrote:

> Posting back with the routing table may help.
>
> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> "Mikey43" <Mikey43@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:EAB53F5E-D389-472C-BB7C-942928CDA7A5@microsoft.com...
> The adapter: PPP adapter Sprint Mobile Broadband - Novatel Wireless:
> is my dialup modem (Sprint AirCard) that provides our household internet
> access.
>
> The adapter:
> Ethernet adapter Wired-Wireless:
>
> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast
> Is going to my wirless router which is how our other computers connect to
> this computer in order to get out to the internet.
>
> - This NIC will not accept a default gateway because it IS the default
> gateway for my home network to get to the internet.
>
> MY ISP (Sprint) has decided to NOT assign a default gateway through their
> DHCP server, therefore there is no default gateway on my internet connection.
>
> I don't have the luxury of being able to connect a router directly to my
> internet connection. My PCMCIA card for accessing the internet must be
> connected to a computer. There is a router out there that will accept my
> AirCard, but it is over $200 and it doesn't allow VPN tunneling (something I
> use to maintain my enterprise of 72,000 systems after hours).
>
> I read somewhere else in one of these threads that Microsoft designed Vista
> to not allow private networks on any systems that already have a public
> network. If microsoft believes that everyone has the capability to tie into a
> DSL or cable modem, they are sadly mistaken. There are millions of Americans
> that cannot get any of that. Instead we are stuck with Satellite, Cellular,
> or (even worse) landline modems. I recently had to use a landline modem and
> it was slower than watching grass grow. Sprint AirCards are the fastest thing
> in this neck of the woods and that was only after placing a directional beam
> antenna on top of a 40 foot pole pointed at the nearest CDMA tower.
>
> Bottom line: I have to have the PPP Adapter to Sprint and I have to have one
> NIC operational in addition to that.
>
> If it's any consolation....I can change the name of my true Public network
> all day long. I want to change the name of my Private network AND!!!! I would
> like it to stay private after a reboot of the system.
>
> I have tried ALL the suggestions from ChicagoTech. They didn't help.
>
> -Frustrated-
> (MCP)
>
>
> "Robert L [MVP - Networking]" wrote:
>
> > The multihomed Vista may receive "Unidentified network" message if it is configured incorrectly. In your case, I don't see the default gateway or it is 0.0.0.0. I would disable the ICS and setup just one connection to make sure it works.
> >
> > These links may help too.
> >
> > Multihomed Vista may receive "Unidentified network"
> > http://www.chicagotech.net/netforums...pic.php?t=1578
> >
> > Vista: unidentified networkto 'Unidentified Network'. So, I ran the network diagnostic tool, and it gave me three options . 'Automatically get new IP settings' which did not solve the ...
> > http://www.chicagotech.net/netforums...a9d9f b0d00cc
> >
> > View topic - Vista: Unidentified network when ...
> > You may see "Unidentified network" if you use ISP public IP, DNS without firewall. Or check this post for more troubleshooting. ....
> > http://www.chicagotech.net/netforums...f1d46 0675b73
> >
> >
> > Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> > Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> > How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> > "Mikey43" <Mikey43@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:2F80CE66-2B13-4F19-B643-815FA5520416@microsoft.com...
> > I have tried every suggestion on this and other tech net sites with zero
> > results.
> >
> > I bought an HP Pavilion three weeks ago and righ out of the box, the
> > on-board NIC (Intel Pro-100) shows up as "Unidentified Network (Public
> > Network)" I can change it to Private, but cannot rename it. It reverts back
> > to public on a reboot. ICS does not work well if the internal netwrok is a
> > public network. After any reboot, I have to reset the network to "Private"
> >
> > - I have downloaded updated drivers for the NIC. Didn't work.
> > - I have disabled IPv6 (Doesn't appear to work anyway - system would give
> > itself an internal private adress and the toredo tunnel doesn't show up.)
> > Didn't work.
> > - Turned off Windows firewall, Didn't work.
> > -- Turned it back on. didn't work
> > - Internal NIC will not accept a default gateway because the IP address
> > assigned to it by ICS is the gateway.
> > - Disabled on-board NIC and inserted a separate NIC (Realtek 8139) Driver
> > dated July 2007.
> > - On-board wireless is disabled.
> >
> > IPCONFIG /ALL below:
> >
> > Windows IP Configuration
> >
> > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Gateway
> > Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
> > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
> > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> >
> > Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection:
> >
> > Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
> > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : USB Wireless 802.11 b/g Adaptor
> > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-C0-A8-F3-60-38
> > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
> > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> >
> > Ethernet adapter Wired-Wireless:
> >
> > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast
> > Ethernet
> > NIC
> > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-B0-4C-39-17-49
> > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
> > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> > IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1(Preferred)
> > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
> > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 68.28.178.11
> > 68.28.186.11
> > NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled
> >
> > PPP adapter Sprint Mobile Broadband - Novatel Wireless:
> >
> > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Sprint Mobile Broadband - Novatel
> > Wireles
> > s
> > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . :
> > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
> > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> > IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 70.3.189.2(Preferred)
> > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
> > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
> > NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mike

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Old 11-12-2007
network problem
 

Posts: n/a
RE: Unidentified Network Issues


"Mikey43" wrote:

> I have tried every suggestion on this and other tech net sites with zero
> results.
>
> I bought an HP Pavilion three weeks ago and righ out of the box, the
> on-board NIC (Intel Pro-100) shows up as "Unidentified Network (Public
> Network)" I can change it to Private, but cannot rename it. It reverts back
> to public on a reboot. ICS does not work well if the internal netwrok is a
> public network. After any reboot, I have to reset the network to "Private"
>
> - I have downloaded updated drivers for the NIC. Didn't work.
> - I have disabled IPv6 (Doesn't appear to work anyway - system would give
> itself an internal private adress and the toredo tunnel doesn't show up.)
> Didn't work.
> - Turned off Windows firewall, Didn't work.
> -- Turned it back on. didn't work
> - Internal NIC will not accept a default gateway because the IP address
> assigned to it by ICS is the gateway.
> - Disabled on-board NIC and inserted a separate NIC (Realtek 8139) Driver
> dated July 2007.
> - On-board wireless is disabled.
>
> IPCONFIG /ALL below:
>
> Windows IP Configuration
>
> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Gateway
> Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>
> Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection:
>
> Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : USB Wireless 802.11 b/g Adaptor
> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-C0-A8-F3-60-38
> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
>
> Ethernet adapter Wired-Wireless:
>
> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast
> Ethernet
> NIC
> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-B0-4C-39-17-49
> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1(Preferred)
> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 68.28.178.11
> 68.28.186.11
> NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled
>
> PPP adapter Sprint Mobile Broadband - Novatel Wireless:
>
> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Sprint Mobile Broadband - Novatel
> Wireles
> s
> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . :
> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 70.3.189.2(Preferred)
> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
> NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled
>
>
> Thanks,
> Mike

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