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Old 02-04-2008
CSCulwellV1
 

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Issues With Vista/Sound Card
I bought my laptop, featuring windows vista, about a year ago. During that
time, I have noticed two things I could do on my older computer that had XP
but can't do on Vista. (a) I cannot listen to anything I record into my
computer while recording it. I have to record, then listen back. (b) I cannot
record anything that is playing on my computer.

I read somewhere about copyright issues or something, but I work in the
radio business, so I use my laptop for audio recording all the time. When you
are recording an hour or longer broadcast for re-airing or for archive
purposes, it really sucks if the audio doesn't record right, something you
fix if you were able to here it during recording. Does anybody know anyway to
fix this problem?
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Old 02-05-2008
Kevin
 

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Re: Issues With Vista/Sound Card

"CSCulwellV1" <CSCulwellV1@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0EA3B1B2-9D2E-4E55-AB55-19F507964AC3@microsoft.com...
>I bought my laptop, featuring windows vista, about a year ago. During that
> time, I have noticed two things I could do on my older computer that had
> XP
> but can't do on Vista. (a) I cannot listen to anything I record into my
> computer while recording it. I have to record, then listen back. (b) I
> cannot
> record anything that is playing on my computer.
>
> I read somewhere about copyright issues or something, but I work in the
> radio business, so I use my laptop for audio recording all the time. When
> you
> are recording an hour or longer broadcast for re-airing or for archive
> purposes, it really sucks if the audio doesn't record right, something you
> fix if you were able to here it during recording. Does anybody know anyway
> to
> fix this problem?


This just about has to be an issue with the application you are using to
play and record the material. I don't think it is a problem with Vista.


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Old 01-04-2009
MervR
 

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Re: Issues With Vista/Sound Card

CSCulwellV1;596244 Wrote:
> I bought my laptop, featuring windows vista, about a year ago. During
> that
> time, I have noticed two things I could do on my older computer that
> had XP
> but can't do on Vista. (a) I cannot listen to anything I record into my
> computer while recording it. I have to record, then listen back. (b) I
> cannot
> record anything that is playing on my computer.
>
> I read somewhere about copyright issues or something, but I work in the
> radio business, so I use my laptop for audio recording all the time.
> When you
> are recording an hour or longer broadcast for re-airing or for archive
> purposes, it really sucks if the audio doesn't record right, something
> you
> fix if you were able to here it during recording. Does anybody know
> anyway to
> fix this problem?

You are absolutely right. XP had a sound card control configuration
that included a "Stereo Mix" that would allow your recording software to
record anything that you could hear coming through your computer. This
doesn't seem possible with Vista. I too work in radio and in a recording
studio situation. Because of this issue, Vista for me has been a total
waste of time and space...and I'm not even sure if my new laptop will
allow me to install XP. I believe some of the newr machines a
specifically built to dissallow such an intallation.
I too need someone who can let me know of a fix. HELP!
MervR


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Old 01-04-2009
Clevo
 

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Re: Issues With Vista/Sound Card

You work in The industry and have had Vista for a year and you are only
discoverint this now?

For recording and Archiving and distribution (syndication) Netia is the
industry standard. (if you have the budget).

Audacity, a popular free software, works on Vista and you can get
around Vista's recording "what you hear" problem. But if you work in the
industry you would appreciate this is the inferior way to record for
archiving or re-broadcast. You are allowing to much line noise.

Invest in a Sound card...

CSCulwellV1;596244 Wrote:
> I bought my laptop, featuring windows vista, about a year ago. During
> that
> time, I have noticed two things I could do on my older computer that
> had XP
> but can't do on Vista. (a) I cannot listen to anything I record into my
> computer while recording it. I have to record, then listen back. (b) I
> cannot
> record anything that is playing on my computer.
>
> I read somewhere about copyright issues or something, but I work in the
> radio business, so I use my laptop for audio recording all the time.
> When you
> are recording an hour or longer broadcast for re-airing or for archive
> purposes, it really sucks if the audio doesn't record right, something
> you
> fix if you were able to here it during recording. Does anybody know
> anyway to
> fix this problem?



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Old 01-05-2009
MervR
 

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Re: Issues With Vista/Sound Card

Clevo;929448 Wrote:
> You work in The industry and have had Vista for a year and you are only
> discoverint this now?
>
> For recording and Archiving and distribution (syndication) Netia is the
> industry standard. (if you have the budget).
>
> Audacity, a popular free software, works on Vista and you can get
> around Vista's recording "what you hear" problem. But if you work in the
> industry you would appreciate this is the inferior way to record for
> archiving or re-broadcast. You are allowing to much line noise.
>
> Invest in a Sound card...
>
> > CSCulwellV1;596244 Wrote:
> > I bought my laptop, featuring windows vista, about a year ago. During
> > that
> > time, I have noticed two things I could do on my older computer that
> > had XP
> > but can't do on Vista. (a) I cannot listen to anything I record into my
> > computer while recording it. I have to record, then listen back. (b) I
> > cannot
> > record anything that is playing on my computer.
> >
> > I read somewhere about copyright issues or something, but I work in the
> > radio business, so I use my laptop for audio recording all the time.
> > When you
> > are recording an hour or longer broadcast for re-airing or for archive
> > purposes, it really sucks if the audio doesn't record right, something
> > you
> > fix if you were able to here it during recording. Does anybody know
> > anyway to
> > fix this problem?> >

MervR
Hi Clevo,
I'm not the guy who initiated the first query. I have only just bought
my laptop and discovered the problem within minutes. I've been searching
for a fix for over a week.
You're the first person I've come across who has indicated that there
might be a way of overcoming Vista's "What You Here" issue. How can it
be done.
I'm using Adobe Audition, a program that is used extensively in
Community Radio where bugets are limited. In order to "bounce" one track
to another in a multitracking format, it is essential to be able to
record the sound you are hearing on playback. This doesn't seem possible
with Vista.
I'll be happy if you can tell me how to get the old "Stereo Mix"
control or something similar into Vista.
Regards,
MervR


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Old 01-05-2009
Clevo
 

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Re: Issues With Vista/Sound Card

MervR;929594 Wrote:
> > Clevo;929448 Wrote:
> > You work in The industry and have had Vista for a year and you are only
> > discoverint this now?
> >
> > For recording and Archiving and distribution (syndication) Netia is the
> > industry standard. (if you have the budget).
> >
> > Audacity, a popular free software, works on Vista and you can get
> > around Vista's recording "what you hear" problem. But if you work in the
> > industry you would appreciate this is the inferior way to record for
> > archiving or re-broadcast. You are allowing to much line noise.
> >
> > Invest in a Sound card...
> >
> > > > CSCulwellV1;596244 Wrote:
> > > I bought my laptop, featuring windows vista, about a year ago. During
> > > that
> > > time, I have noticed two things I could do on my older computer that
> > > had XP
> > > but can't do on Vista. (a) I cannot listen to anything I record into my
> > > computer while recording it. I have to record, then listen back. (b) I
> > > cannot
> > > record anything that is playing on my computer.
> > >
> > > I read somewhere about copyright issues or something, but I work in the
> > > radio business, so I use my laptop for audio recording all the time.
> > > When you
> > > are recording an hour or longer broadcast for re-airing or for archive
> > > purposes, it really sucks if the audio doesn't record right, something
> > > you
> > > fix if you were able to here it during recording. Does anybody know
> > > anyway to
> > > fix this problem?> > > > > >

> MervR
> Hi Clevo,
> I'm not the guy who initiated the first query. I have only just
> bought my laptop and discovered the problem within minutes. I've been
> searching for a fix for over a week.
> You're the first person I've come across who has indicated that there
> might be a way of overcoming Vista's "What You Here" issue. How can it
> be done.
> I'm using Adobe Audition, a program that is used extensively in
> Community Radio where bugets are limited. In order to "bounce" one
> track to another in a multitracking format, it is essential to be able
> to record the sound you are hearing on playback. This doesn't seem
> possible with Vista.
> I'll be happy if you can tell me how to get the old "Stereo Mix"
> control or something similar into Vista.
> Regards,
> MervR


Sorry Merv if I came across huffy.... You can indeed get around the
record "what you hear" with Audacity

Try Audacity and the link is to one of their FAQ's

http://audacity.sourceforge.net/help...ng&i=streaming


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Clevo

___________________________
Windows Vista Home Premium x64 + SP1
ASUS P5K MB
Intel Core2 Quad Q6600 @ 2.4GHz
4GB RAM (DDR2)
NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GTS
Realtek HD onboard sound

Helpful links:
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...91033.mspx#EEE
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Old 01-05-2009
Blackbird
 

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Re: Issues With Vista/Sound Card

"MervR" <guest@unknown-email.com> schreef in bericht
news:739105aff9281cc1ed3e668e58d6df0d@nntp-gateway.com...
>
> CSCulwellV1;596244 Wrote:
>> I bought my laptop, featuring windows vista, about a year ago. During
>> that
>> time, I have noticed two things I could do on my older computer that
>> had XP
>> but can't do on Vista. (a) I cannot listen to anything I record into my
>> computer while recording it. I have to record, then listen back. (b) I
>> cannot
>> record anything that is playing on my computer.


- How to enable Wave Out recording in XP en Vista

XP - If you've ever tried to record streaming audio in Windows, like a Skype
call or a webcast, you may be aware of a simple setting that allows you to
record any sound playing through your computer's sound card. All you have to
do is:

Select your sound properties through the control panel or the sound icon in
your system tray.

Click on the properties tab.

Check the recording box.

Make sure Wave Out Mix is selected (It's sometimes called stereo mix, or
mono mix).

Now you should be able to set Wave Out as your default for recordings made
by Audacity or other audio recording programs.

Vista - But, if you try the same trick with Windows Vista, you won't see an
option for Wave Out Mix. It's not that the option's been left out of Vista,
Microsoft just decided to hide it.

Select sound from the control panel.

Select the recording tab.

Right click on the background of the tab and choose "show disabled devices."

Right click on Wave Out Mix (Stereo Mix) and click enable.

Now it should work the same way as Wave Out Mix in Windows XP, allowing you
to record any sound your computer makes.


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Old 01-06-2009
dbknox
 

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Re: Issues With Vista/Sound Card

Clevo;929635 Wrote:
> > MervR;929594 Wrote:
> > > > Clevo;929448 Wrote:
> > > You work in The industry and have had Vista for a year and you are only
> > > discoverint this now?
> > >
> > > For recording and Archiving and distribution (syndication) Netia is the
> > > industry standard. (if you have the budget).
> > >
> > > Audacity, a popular free software, works on Vista and you can get
> > > around Vista's recording "what you hear" problem. But if you work in the
> > > industry you would appreciate this is the inferior way to record for
> > > archiving or re-broadcast. You are allowing to much line noise.
> > >
> > > Invest in a Sound card...
> > >
> > > > > > >

> > MervR
> > Hi Clevo,
> > I'm not the guy who initiated the first query. I have only just
> > bought my laptop and discovered the problem within minutes. I've
> > been searching for a fix for over a week.
> > You're the first person I've come across who has indicated that
> > there might be a way of overcoming Vista's "What You Here" issue.
> > How can it be done.
> > I'm using Adobe Audition, a program that is used extensively in
> > Community Radio where bugets are limited. In order to "bounce" one
> > track to another in a multitracking format, it is essential to be
> > able to record the sound you are hearing on playback. This doesn't
> > seem possible with Vista.
> > I'll be happy if you can tell me how to get the old "Stereo Mix"
> > control or something similar into Vista.
> > Regards,
> > MervR> >

>
> Sorry Merv if I came across huffy.... You can indeed get around the
> record "what you hear" with Audacity
>
> Try Audacity and the link is to one of their FAQ's
>
> 'Audacity: Can Audacity record RealAudio or other streaming audio?'
> (http://audacity.sourceforge.net/help...ng&i=streaming)


Try this and see if it works for you.
go to, control panel (classic view) - sound - recording tab - right
click in the white area - select 'show disabled devices' - right click
on stereo mix - select 'enable'
now you can use any progam you like e.g. audacity to record
what you hear.


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Old 01-07-2009
MervR
 

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Re: Issues With Vista/Sound Card

Thanks both of you...trouble is that "Sterio Mix" /"Wave Out" / "Sum" /
What U Hear" / Loopback" (all different names for the same function) is
not listed as any of the functions either hidden or disabled. It seems I
just don't have it. I have access to only 3 (a) Micrphone/Line In (b)
Microphone Array (The laptop's built in mikes) and (c) SPDIF (Digital
device) Out.
Has my soundcard "SigmaTel High Definition CODEC" been not completely
installed?
Regards
Merom


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Old 01-08-2009
Blackbird
 

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Re: Issues With Vista/Sound Card

"MervR" <guest@unknown-email.com> schreef in bericht
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>
> Thanks both of you...trouble is that "Sterio Mix" /"Wave Out" / "Sum" /
> What U Hear" / Loopback" (all different names for the same function) is
> not listed as any of the functions either hidden or disabled. It seems I
> just don't have it. I have access to only 3 (a) Micrphone/Line In (b)
> Microphone Array (The laptop's built in mikes) and (c) SPDIF (Digital
> device) Out.
> Has my soundcard "SigmaTel High Definition CODEC" been not completely
> installed?
> Regards
> Merom


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