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Old 02-21-2007
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COFIRMED BUG!
I have discovered a bug for sure! Another member tried the instructions
below and experienced the same problems I had. Therefore, I have very good
reason to think that this is a problem with every Vista OS. While this bug
isn't so serious, one day you might run into it.

WHATS THE PROBLEM:
In retrospect, the Windows Photo Gallery Wallpaper file will not reposition.

WHY IS THIS A PROBLEM:
If I set a picture as a background anywhere on my computer and enter the
Personalize Desktop Background screen, I cannot change the pictures position.

TO SEE THE PROBLEM, DO THIS ON YOUR VISTA COMPUTER:
1. Set ANY picture in your own pictures folder as a background (Right click
on
the photo and click "Set as Desktop Background")

2. Right-click the desktop, click Personalize, click Desktop Background, and
then try repositioning it on the bottom of the screen, under where it says:
"How should the pictures be positioned?".

3. See if anything happens to the picture on the desktop if you chose a
different radio button. (In my computer, if I set a picture as a background
inside the Windows Pictures folder, I cannot reposition it inside this
screen.)

WHOA! THAT'S CRAZY! WHAT CAN I DO?:
Well, if you have the same problem, there is still a way to repostion the
picture.

1. Just click "Browse..." for picture location.
2. Navigate to the folder that contains the picture.
3. Then choose the picture you want as a background but couldn't reposition
by setting it as a background earlier (I hope that's not confusing).
4. Now try changing the position.

OH WOW, NOW I CAN REPOSITION IT!:
HOW DID YOU KNOW IT CAN HAPPEN ON MY COMPUTER?:
Someone else tried it out in this discussion area. Also, the problem doesn't
occur when I set a picture as a background from the internet. I know it has
to do with the Windows Photo Gallary Wallpaper file because when I click
browse, that is the source of the background.

SO WHAT DO I WANT:
Well, if you have the same problem, please reply to the post so I don't feel
so alone. Also, if you do everything and there is no problem, please reply
as well.
It would be really nice for you to agree with my suggestion if you had the
same problem too, that way, maybe one day, Microsoft will take note and fix
the bug.

If you want to see my original post, do these instructions:

1. Search for "Position" in Music, Pictures, and Videos.
2. Click on the "Positioning Pictures does not work for M..." link
3. Now you're in my post.

Thanks a lot!

-Stjb.

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Old 02-21-2007
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CONFIRMED BUG!
OOPS! I meant "CONFIRMED BUG!" not "COFIRMED BUG!" Sorry bout that...
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Old 02-21-2007
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RE: COFIRMED BUG!
Yes, I see what you mean. When you right click on a image in your Pictures
folder or an image in any folder for that matter and click "Set as Desktop
background" it sets it as your background and the positioning is off. I think
it is because the file is saved as the wrong size or something in the folder:

C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Window s Photo Gallery

And the positioning is reset correctly when you select the image from the
original folder it is saved to. I wonder how this effects images found on
the web that instead of saving it directly to the computer, we Right click
and click "Set as Desktop Background. This is an intresting glitch.

"Stjb." wrote:

> I have discovered a bug for sure! Another member tried the instructions
> below and experienced the same problems I had. Therefore, I have very good
> reason to think that this is a problem with every Vista OS. While this bug
> isn't so serious, one day you might run into it.
>
> WHATS THE PROBLEM:
> In retrospect, the Windows Photo Gallery Wallpaper file will not reposition.
>
> WHY IS THIS A PROBLEM:
> If I set a picture as a background anywhere on my computer and enter the
> Personalize Desktop Background screen, I cannot change the pictures position.
>
> TO SEE THE PROBLEM, DO THIS ON YOUR VISTA COMPUTER:
> 1. Set ANY picture in your own pictures folder as a background (Right click
> on
> the photo and click "Set as Desktop Background")
>
> 2. Right-click the desktop, click Personalize, click Desktop Background, and
> then try repositioning it on the bottom of the screen, under where it says:
> "How should the pictures be positioned?".
>
> 3. See if anything happens to the picture on the desktop if you chose a
> different radio button. (In my computer, if I set a picture as a background
> inside the Windows Pictures folder, I cannot reposition it inside this
> screen.)
>
> WHOA! THAT'S CRAZY! WHAT CAN I DO?:
> Well, if you have the same problem, there is still a way to repostion the
> picture.
>
> 1. Just click "Browse..." for picture location.
> 2. Navigate to the folder that contains the picture.
> 3. Then choose the picture you want as a background but couldn't reposition
> by setting it as a background earlier (I hope that's not confusing).
> 4. Now try changing the position.
>
> OH WOW, NOW I CAN REPOSITION IT!:
> HOW DID YOU KNOW IT CAN HAPPEN ON MY COMPUTER?:
> Someone else tried it out in this discussion area. Also, the problem doesn't
> occur when I set a picture as a background from the internet. I know it has
> to do with the Windows Photo Gallary Wallpaper file because when I click
> browse, that is the source of the background.
>
> SO WHAT DO I WANT:
> Well, if you have the same problem, please reply to the post so I don't feel
> so alone. Also, if you do everything and there is no problem, please reply
> as well.
> It would be really nice for you to agree with my suggestion if you had the
> same problem too, that way, maybe one day, Microsoft will take note and fix
> the bug.
>
> If you want to see my original post, do these instructions:
>
> 1. Search for "Position" in Music, Pictures, and Videos.
> 2. Click on the "Positioning Pictures does not work for M..." link
> 3. Now you're in my post.
>
> Thanks a lot!
>
> -Stjb.
>
> ----------------
> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this
> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>
> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com...pictures_video

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Old 05-17-2007
blh698
 

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RE: COFIRMED BUG!
I have exactly the same problem described here and so far the only solution I
have found is, as you say, to right-click on the pic from the internet page
and save as background. Otherwise, if I do save as background from a saved
pic, it is stretched no matter what setting I have selected. Frustrating.

"sprgrlwonder" wrote:

> Yes, I see what you mean. When you right click on a image in your Pictures
> folder or an image in any folder for that matter and click "Set as Desktop
> background" it sets it as your background and the positioning is off. I think
> it is because the file is saved as the wrong size or something in the folder:
>
> C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Window s Photo Gallery
>
> And the positioning is reset correctly when you select the image from the
> original folder it is saved to. I wonder how this effects images found on
> the web that instead of saving it directly to the computer, we Right click
> and click "Set as Desktop Background. This is an intresting glitch.
>
> "Stjb." wrote:
>
> > I have discovered a bug for sure! Another member tried the instructions
> > below and experienced the same problems I had. Therefore, I have very good
> > reason to think that this is a problem with every Vista OS. While this bug
> > isn't so serious, one day you might run into it.
> >
> > WHATS THE PROBLEM:
> > In retrospect, the Windows Photo Gallery Wallpaper file will not reposition.
> >
> > WHY IS THIS A PROBLEM:
> > If I set a picture as a background anywhere on my computer and enter the
> > Personalize Desktop Background screen, I cannot change the pictures position.
> >
> > TO SEE THE PROBLEM, DO THIS ON YOUR VISTA COMPUTER:
> > 1. Set ANY picture in your own pictures folder as a background (Right click
> > on
> > the photo and click "Set as Desktop Background")
> >
> > 2. Right-click the desktop, click Personalize, click Desktop Background, and
> > then try repositioning it on the bottom of the screen, under where it says:
> > "How should the pictures be positioned?".
> >
> > 3. See if anything happens to the picture on the desktop if you chose a
> > different radio button. (In my computer, if I set a picture as a background
> > inside the Windows Pictures folder, I cannot reposition it inside this
> > screen.)
> >
> > WHOA! THAT'S CRAZY! WHAT CAN I DO?:
> > Well, if you have the same problem, there is still a way to repostion the
> > picture.
> >
> > 1. Just click "Browse..." for picture location.
> > 2. Navigate to the folder that contains the picture.
> > 3. Then choose the picture you want as a background but couldn't reposition
> > by setting it as a background earlier (I hope that's not confusing).
> > 4. Now try changing the position.
> >
> > OH WOW, NOW I CAN REPOSITION IT!:
> > HOW DID YOU KNOW IT CAN HAPPEN ON MY COMPUTER?:
> > Someone else tried it out in this discussion area. Also, the problem doesn't
> > occur when I set a picture as a background from the internet. I know it has
> > to do with the Windows Photo Gallary Wallpaper file because when I click
> > browse, that is the source of the background.
> >
> > SO WHAT DO I WANT:
> > Well, if you have the same problem, please reply to the post so I don't feel
> > so alone. Also, if you do everything and there is no problem, please reply
> > as well.
> > It would be really nice for you to agree with my suggestion if you had the
> > same problem too, that way, maybe one day, Microsoft will take note and fix
> > the bug.
> >
> > If you want to see my original post, do these instructions:
> >
> > 1. Search for "Position" in Music, Pictures, and Videos.
> > 2. Click on the "Positioning Pictures does not work for M..." link
> > 3. Now you're in my post.
> >
> > Thanks a lot!
> >
> > -Stjb.
> >
> > ----------------
> > This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
> > suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
> > Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this
> > link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
> > click "I Agree" in the message pane.
> >
> > http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com...pictures_video

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Old 06-15-2007
Page
 

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RE: COFIRMED BUG!
I have the same issue, but here's something to consider. I've previously
saved pictures from the web as .png files and saved them as backgrounds for
years with XP. Now, with Vista, I do your suggested workaround it will not
recognize .png files as "picture files" so maybe that has something to do
with it? When I save the same file as a bitmap it works like you said. What
type of files are you working with, and do you think this might be part of
the problem?
--
Page


"Stjb." wrote:

> I have discovered a bug for sure! Another member tried the instructions
> below and experienced the same problems I had. Therefore, I have very good
> reason to think that this is a problem with every Vista OS. While this bug
> isn't so serious, one day you might run into it.
>
> WHATS THE PROBLEM:
> In retrospect, the Windows Photo Gallery Wallpaper file will not reposition.
>
> WHY IS THIS A PROBLEM:
> If I set a picture as a background anywhere on my computer and enter the
> Personalize Desktop Background screen, I cannot change the pictures position.
>
> TO SEE THE PROBLEM, DO THIS ON YOUR VISTA COMPUTER:
> 1. Set ANY picture in your own pictures folder as a background (Right click
> on
> the photo and click "Set as Desktop Background")
>
> 2. Right-click the desktop, click Personalize, click Desktop Background, and
> then try repositioning it on the bottom of the screen, under where it says:
> "How should the pictures be positioned?".
>
> 3. See if anything happens to the picture on the desktop if you chose a
> different radio button. (In my computer, if I set a picture as a background
> inside the Windows Pictures folder, I cannot reposition it inside this
> screen.)
>
> WHOA! THAT'S CRAZY! WHAT CAN I DO?:
> Well, if you have the same problem, there is still a way to repostion the
> picture.
>
> 1. Just click "Browse..." for picture location.
> 2. Navigate to the folder that contains the picture.
> 3. Then choose the picture you want as a background but couldn't reposition
> by setting it as a background earlier (I hope that's not confusing).
> 4. Now try changing the position.
>
> OH WOW, NOW I CAN REPOSITION IT!:
> HOW DID YOU KNOW IT CAN HAPPEN ON MY COMPUTER?:
> Someone else tried it out in this discussion area. Also, the problem doesn't
> occur when I set a picture as a background from the internet. I know it has
> to do with the Windows Photo Gallary Wallpaper file because when I click
> browse, that is the source of the background.
>
> SO WHAT DO I WANT:
> Well, if you have the same problem, please reply to the post so I don't feel
> so alone. Also, if you do everything and there is no problem, please reply
> as well.
> It would be really nice for you to agree with my suggestion if you had the
> same problem too, that way, maybe one day, Microsoft will take note and fix
> the bug.
>
> If you want to see my original post, do these instructions:
>
> 1. Search for "Position" in Music, Pictures, and Videos.
> 2. Click on the "Positioning Pictures does not work for M..." link
> 3. Now you're in my post.
>
> Thanks a lot!
>
> -Stjb.
>
> ----------------
> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this
> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>
> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com...pictures_video

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Old 06-15-2007
Adam Albright
 

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Re: COFIRMED BUG!
On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 12:01:05 -0700, Page
<Page@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>I have the same issue, but here's something to consider. I've previously
>saved pictures from the web as .png files and saved them as backgrounds for
>years with XP. Now, with Vista, I do your suggested workaround it will not
>recognize .png files as "picture files" so maybe that has something to do
>with it? When I save the same file as a bitmap it works like you said. What
>type of files are you working with, and do you think this might be part of
>the problem?


Vista is perfectly capable of understanding and displaying .png files.
I just confirmed it by converting a .jpg to a .png in Photoshop and
both Windows Explorer and Photo Galley open the file and show it find
as both a thumbnail and in full view. It is true you can't "fix" a
..png from Photo Gallery. Why that's so, you'll have to ask Microsoft.

For those wondering about .png files, it carries a Alpha channel. This
means that with the right software (Photoshop for example) you can
mask a portion of the image, typically some unwanted background, mark
A color or selected area as transparent then using another application
that supports layers have the Alpha channel blocked out, in effect
letting what's underneath bleed though.

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Old 08-07-2007
Page
 

Posts: n/a
Re: COFIRMED BUG!
Yes, you're correct. Windows Explorer and Photo Gallery will do all you say.
What I'm talking about is choosing a background for your desktop. A .png
file will not display properly, that is, it will not let you frame it with a
colored background. In fact, when you browse for a picture for your
background and select "All Picture Files" it will not show any .png files at
all. If you force the .png file to be the background by right-clicking on it
and choosing it to be your background then you do not get to choose any
positioning for your picture such as tile, colored framing, etc. This is
what I'm trying to fix. Can you help me?

"Adam Albright" wrote:

> On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 12:01:05 -0700, Page
> <Page@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> >I have the same issue, but here's something to consider. I've previously
> >saved pictures from the web as .png files and saved them as backgrounds for
> >years with XP. Now, with Vista, I do your suggested workaround it will not
> >recognize .png files as "picture files" so maybe that has something to do
> >with it? When I save the same file as a bitmap it works like you said. What
> >type of files are you working with, and do you think this might be part of
> >the problem?

>
> Vista is perfectly capable of understanding and displaying .png files.
> I just confirmed it by converting a .jpg to a .png in Photoshop and
> both Windows Explorer and Photo Galley open the file and show it find
> as both a thumbnail and in full view. It is true you can't "fix" a
> ..png from Photo Gallery. Why that's so, you'll have to ask Microsoft.
>
> For those wondering about .png files, it carries a Alpha channel. This
> means that with the right software (Photoshop for example) you can
> mask a portion of the image, typically some unwanted background, mark
> A color or selected area as transparent then using another application
> that supports layers have the Alpha channel blocked out, in effect
> letting what's underneath bleed though.
>
>

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Old 08-07-2007
JW
 

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Re: COFIRMED BUG!
Can you load the .png file in PaintShop and then save it is a .BMP or .jpg
and then use it for your desktop?

"Page" <Page@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:B1E39F8F-F21F-49EC-88AC-AC0881A2B8F1@microsoft.com...
> Yes, you're correct. Windows Explorer and Photo Gallery will do all you
> say.
> What I'm talking about is choosing a background for your desktop. A .png
> file will not display properly, that is, it will not let you frame it with
> a
> colored background. In fact, when you browse for a picture for your
> background and select "All Picture Files" it will not show any .png files
> at
> all. If you force the .png file to be the background by right-clicking on
> it
> and choosing it to be your background then you do not get to choose any
> positioning for your picture such as tile, colored framing, etc. This is
> what I'm trying to fix. Can you help me?
>
> "Adam Albright" wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 12:01:05 -0700, Page
>> <Page@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>
>> >I have the same issue, but here's something to consider. I've
>> >previously
>> >saved pictures from the web as .png files and saved them as backgrounds
>> >for
>> >years with XP. Now, with Vista, I do your suggested workaround it will
>> >not
>> >recognize .png files as "picture files" so maybe that has something to
>> >do
>> >with it? When I save the same file as a bitmap it works like you said.
>> >What
>> >type of files are you working with, and do you think this might be part
>> >of
>> >the problem?

>>
>> Vista is perfectly capable of understanding and displaying .png files.
>> I just confirmed it by converting a .jpg to a .png in Photoshop and
>> both Windows Explorer and Photo Galley open the file and show it find
>> as both a thumbnail and in full view. It is true you can't "fix" a
>> ..png from Photo Gallery. Why that's so, you'll have to ask Microsoft.
>>
>> For those wondering about .png files, it carries a Alpha channel. This
>> means that with the right software (Photoshop for example) you can
>> mask a portion of the image, typically some unwanted background, mark
>> A color or selected area as transparent then using another application
>> that supports layers have the Alpha channel blocked out, in effect
>> letting what's underneath bleed though.
>>
>>


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Old 08-07-2007
Page
 

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Re: COFIRMED BUG!
It looks like I can. The image quality is deteriorated a bit and it's a
couple extra steps that you didn't have to do in XP, but it just bugs me that
Vista doesn't recognize it as a "picture file." Why is that? Shouldn't it
just recognize that .png is a picture file and let meuse it however I like?

"JW" wrote:

> Can you load the .png file in PaintShop and then save it is a .BMP or .jpg
> and then use it for your desktop?
>
> "Page" <Page@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:B1E39F8F-F21F-49EC-88AC-AC0881A2B8F1@microsoft.com...
> > Yes, you're correct. Windows Explorer and Photo Gallery will do all you
> > say.
> > What I'm talking about is choosing a background for your desktop. A .png
> > file will not display properly, that is, it will not let you frame it with
> > a
> > colored background. In fact, when you browse for a picture for your
> > background and select "All Picture Files" it will not show any .png files
> > at
> > all. If you force the .png file to be the background by right-clicking on
> > it
> > and choosing it to be your background then you do not get to choose any
> > positioning for your picture such as tile, colored framing, etc. This is
> > what I'm trying to fix. Can you help me?
> >
> > "Adam Albright" wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 12:01:05 -0700, Page
> >> <Page@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >I have the same issue, but here's something to consider. I've
> >> >previously
> >> >saved pictures from the web as .png files and saved them as backgrounds
> >> >for
> >> >years with XP. Now, with Vista, I do your suggested workaround it will
> >> >not
> >> >recognize .png files as "picture files" so maybe that has something to
> >> >do
> >> >with it? When I save the same file as a bitmap it works like you said.
> >> >What
> >> >type of files are you working with, and do you think this might be part
> >> >of
> >> >the problem?
> >>
> >> Vista is perfectly capable of understanding and displaying .png files.
> >> I just confirmed it by converting a .jpg to a .png in Photoshop and
> >> both Windows Explorer and Photo Galley open the file and show it find
> >> as both a thumbnail and in full view. It is true you can't "fix" a
> >> ..png from Photo Gallery. Why that's so, you'll have to ask Microsoft.
> >>
> >> For those wondering about .png files, it carries a Alpha channel. This
> >> means that with the right software (Photoshop for example) you can
> >> mask a portion of the image, typically some unwanted background, mark
> >> A color or selected area as transparent then using another application
> >> that supports layers have the Alpha channel blocked out, in effect
> >> letting what's underneath bleed though.
> >>
> >>

>

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Old 08-07-2007
Adam Albright
 

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Re: COFIRMED BUG!
On Mon, 6 Aug 2007 17:26:03 -0700, Page
<Page@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>Yes, you're correct. Windows Explorer and Photo Gallery will do all you say.
> What I'm talking about is choosing a background for your desktop. A .png
>file will not display properly, that is, it will not let you frame it with a
>colored background. In fact, when you browse for a picture for your
>background and select "All Picture Files" it will not show any .png files at
>all. If you force the .png file to be the background by right-clicking on it
>and choosing it to be your background then you do not get to choose any
>positioning for your picture such as tile, colored framing, etc. This is
>what I'm trying to fix. Can you help me?


Why do you want to use a png file for a background? If I knew the
'why' I may be able to give you a method to duplicate it with a jpg
that Vista will accept as a background and allow positioning and
framing.

For example just playing around I took the forest background in sample
pictures brought it into Photoshop, opened a photo of a couple boys,
trimmed out that photo's background dropped it over the forest
background so just the boys remained, merged visible saving as a .JPG.
Then I made it the desktop background then selected change background
color made it forest green and there you go... a custom new desktop
background with a centered picture with a surrounding different
background color.

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