Junk Email Criteria.

Windows Email - Vista.

Automatically generated email from one of my servers is being automatically
moved to the junk email folder. Since I have control over the email, I want
to make sure that it is formatted with all the right headers, etc., etc. so
that it doesn't end up in the junk mail folder. To do this, I need to know
why it is showing up in the junk email, which is criteria I can seem to find
anywhere. Is the criteria listed somewhere?

Simply adding the source to everyone's white list is not an option.

tia.

No, Microsoft will not release the criteria, or else spammers would
quickly find ways around it.

Gary VanderMolen

"Gary Hill" <geh15235@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:#aWsLrpsHHA.3556@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
> Windows Email - Vista.
>
> Automatically generated email from one of my servers is being automatically moved to the junk email folder. Since I have
> control over the email, I want to make sure that it is formatted with all the right headers, etc., etc. so that it doesn't end
> up in the junk mail folder. To do this, I need to know why it is showing up in the junk email, which is criteria I can seem to
> find anywhere. Is the criteria listed somewhere?
>
> Simply adding the source to everyone's white list is not an option.

"Gary Hill" <geh15235@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:%23aWsLrpsHHA.3556@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
> Windows Email - Vista.
>
> Automatically generated email from one of my servers is being
> automatically moved to the junk email folder. Since I have control over
> the email, I want to make sure that it is formatted with all the right
> headers, etc., etc. so that it doesn't end up in the junk mail folder. To
> do this, I need to know why it is showing up in the junk email, which is
> criteria I can seem to find anywhere. Is the criteria listed somewhere?
>
> Simply adding the source to everyone's white list is not an option.
>
> tia.
>

Right click such a message and add to the Safe Senders List.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
Do not send mail.

I see. So throwing away valid mail and not telling anyone why so the sender can corrected it is a Microsoft solution.

Great.


"Gary VanderMolen" <gary@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message news:uNSg41psHHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> No, Microsoft will not release the criteria, or else spammers would
> quickly find ways around it.
>
> Gary VanderMolen
>
> "Gary Hill" <geh15235@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:#aWsLrpsHHA.3556@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>
>> Windows Email - Vista.
>>
>> Automatically generated email from one of my servers is being automatically moved to the junk email folder. Since I have
>> control over the email, I want to make sure that it is formatted with all the right headers, etc., etc. so that it doesn't end
>> up in the junk mail folder. To do this, I need to know why it is showing up in the junk email, which is criteria I can seem to
>> find anywhere. Is the criteria listed somewhere?
>>
>> Simply adding the source to everyone's white list is not an option.
>
>

Mail is not thrown away. Readers are expected to periodically check
what's in the junk box since false positives are not unheard of.
If you don't like Microsoft's junk filter, you can turn it off and deploy
your own anti-spam solution. No anti-spam solution will work
correctly all of the time.

Gary VanderMolen


"Gary Hill" <geh15235@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:u6lhB5qsHHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>I see. So throwing away valid mail and not telling anyone why so the sender can corrected it is a Microsoft solution.
>
> Great.
>
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message news:uNSg41psHHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> No, Microsoft will not release the criteria, or else spammers would
>> quickly find ways around it.
>>
>> Gary VanderMolen
>>
>> "Gary Hill" <geh15235@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:#aWsLrpsHHA.3556@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>> Windows Email - Vista.
>>>
>>> Automatically generated email from one of my servers is being automatically moved to the junk email folder. Since I have
>>> control over the email, I want to make sure that it is formatted with all the right headers, etc., etc. so that it doesn't end
>>> up in the junk mail folder. To do this, I need to know why it is showing up in the junk email, which is criteria I can seem
>>> to find anywhere. Is the criteria listed somewhere?
>>>
>>> Simply adding the source to everyone's white list is not an option.
>>
>>

Tools - Junk E-Mail options - Options tab

You can change the level of filtering.
Mine is set to "High" and works quite well.
You can set it to None, and only the blocked senders get moved to the Junk
Email folder.



"Gary Hill" <geh15235@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:u6lhB5qsHHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>I see. So throwing away valid mail and not telling anyone why so the
>sender can corrected it is a Microsoft solution.
>
> Great.
>
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
> news:uNSg41psHHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> No, Microsoft will not release the criteria, or else spammers would
>> quickly find ways around it.
>>
>> Gary VanderMolen
>>
>> "Gary Hill" <geh15235@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:#aWsLrpsHHA.3556@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>> Windows Email - Vista.
>>>
>>> Automatically generated email from one of my servers is being
>>> automatically moved to the junk email folder. Since I have control over
>>> the email, I want to make sure that it is formatted with all the right
>>> headers, etc., etc. so that it doesn't end up in the junk mail folder.
>>> To do this, I need to know why it is showing up in the junk email, which
>>> is criteria I can seem to find anywhere. Is the criteria listed
>>> somewhere?
>>>
>>> Simply adding the source to everyone's white list is not an option.
>>
>>

> Mail is not thrown away. Readers are expected to periodically check
> what's in the junk box since false positives are not unheard of.

Yes, I understand. But mail put in the junk box with all the real junk we receive is bound to be overlooked.

Besides, my real problem is not with receiving the email, it is with sending it.

I have quite a few users that automatically receive email from a little piece code I wrote and run on the server when certain files
become available. I don't want them to have set their filters to accommodate my email. All I want to do is adjust the code so it
sends email compliant with the Microsoft email reader - but I can't figure out the part of the email that offends the junk filter.

This is not SPAM, it is valid email (yeah I know even the spammers say that), but it is true. How can I comply if I don't know what
the problem is? Am I missing required headers? Are their illegal characters or words in the body, etc.? Not even a clue is given.

Does Microsoft really think its reasonable to exclude private mail without giving even general information as to why. Does anyone
really think the spammers will not take the time I don't have to figure out why and try to defeat it?

> If you don't like Microsoft's junk filter, you can turn it off and deploy
> your own anti-spam solution. No anti-spam solution will work
> correctly all of the time.

It's not that I don't like it, in fact I welcome it - but I need enough spec to comply with it.

BTW, thanks for taking the time to respond.



"Gary VanderMolen" <gary@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message news:ekUnTOrsHHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Mail is not thrown away. Readers are expected to periodically check
> what's in the junk box since false positives are not unheard of.
> If you don't like Microsoft's junk filter, you can turn it off and deploy
> your own anti-spam solution. No anti-spam solution will work
> correctly all of the time.
>
> Gary VanderMolen
>
>
> "Gary Hill" <geh15235@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:u6lhB5qsHHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>I see. So throwing away valid mail and not telling anyone why so the sender can corrected it is a Microsoft solution.
>>
>> Great.
>>
>>
>> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message news:uNSg41psHHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> No, Microsoft will not release the criteria, or else spammers would
>>> quickly find ways around it.
>>>
>>> Gary VanderMolen
>>>
>>> "Gary Hill" <geh15235@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:#aWsLrpsHHA.3556@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>> Windows Email - Vista.
>>>>
>>>> Automatically generated email from one of my servers is being automatically moved to the junk email folder. Since I have
>>>> control over the email, I want to make sure that it is formatted with all the right headers, etc., etc. so that it doesn't end
>>>> up in the junk mail folder. To do this, I need to know why it is showing up in the junk email, which is criteria I can seem to
>>>> find anywhere. Is the criteria listed somewhere?
>>>>
>>>> Simply adding the source to everyone's white list is not an option.
>>>
>>>
>