Re: Outlook Express Contact Folders

Thanks for your explanation.
Upon further investigation I see that Contact Groups in WLM are
more flexible than I had experienced with WM.
WLM contact groups are expandable (thus can be trimmed on the
fly), while WM contact groups can't be expanded on the 'To' line,
so it's only an all-or-nothing distribution list.

Chalk one up in the win column for WLM!

Gary VanderMolen


"Ildhund" <jnllb@removemsn.com> wrote in message news:eEEutE5rHHA.4364@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> It's years since I last used OE so I can't compare with that, but I have trouble understanding your problem. I have groups of
> contacts, some of them overlapping (i.e. Jim is in both the group called "Family" and that called "Environment"). If I want to
> send a message to just the immediate family, I select "Family" in the Contacts list and click "To:",* expand the group and
> delete the ones I don't want the message to go to. "Family" comes after "Eyvind" but before "Fanny" in the list - and it's in
> bold type.
>
> *Actually, I just begin typing "fam..." in the To: field and the group name pops up ready for selection.
>
> Noel
>
> "Doug Custer" <DougCuster@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:1793D07E-3C51-4C2D-AA20-6B6F2480F0D0@microsoft.com...
>> In OE, I could go into the Adress Book and create different folders in my
>> Contact area. I might have a folder for "Golfing Buddies" and another for
>> "Work Buddies". I could add different contacts into each folder and they
>> would remain separated. In WLMail I don't see where I can keep a separate
>> folder for each group. When I click "New Message" and then to "To" button,
>> all my contacts are all together... which sucks because now I have to weed
>> through all of them to find the few that I want. I tried setting up "groups"
>> in Contacts, but I don't see the groups with I click to "To" button.
>>
>> Am I missing something?
>> --
>> Doug
>

Noel... I understand what you are saying, but if I have a group that has 50
contacts in it, and I want to send to 20 of them, then I have to delete on
the "To:" line 30 of them... instead of just selecting the 20 that I want. I
just can't figure out why MS would not carry forward a feature that I used
extensively... and I assume others did too. I guess my only option is to
install the full blown Outlook because I know it has this feature... at least
Outlook 2003 does.

Thanks everyone for your response.
--
Doug


"Gary VanderMolen" wrote:

> Thanks for your explanation.
> Upon further investigation I see that Contact Groups in WLM are
> more flexible than I had experienced with WM.
> WLM contact groups are expandable (thus can be trimmed on the
> fly), while WM contact groups can't be expanded on the 'To' line,
> so it's only an all-or-nothing distribution list.
>
> Chalk one up in the win column for WLM!
>
> Gary VanderMolen
>
>
> "Ildhund" <jnllb@removemsn.com> wrote in message news:eEEutE5rHHA.4364@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> > It's years since I last used OE so I can't compare with that, but I have trouble understanding your problem. I have groups of
> > contacts, some of them overlapping (i.e. Jim is in both the group called "Family" and that called "Environment"). If I want to
> > send a message to just the immediate family, I select "Family" in the Contacts list and click "To:",* expand the group and
> > delete the ones I don't want the message to go to. "Family" comes after "Eyvind" but before "Fanny" in the list - and it's in
> > bold type.
> >
> > *Actually, I just begin typing "fam..." in the To: field and the group name pops up ready for selection.
> >
> > Noel
> >
> > "Doug Custer" <DougCuster@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:1793D07E-3C51-4C2D-AA20-6B6F2480F0D0@microsoft.com...
> >> In OE, I could go into the Adress Book and create different folders in my
> >> Contact area. I might have a folder for "Golfing Buddies" and another for
> >> "Work Buddies". I could add different contacts into each folder and they
> >> would remain separated. In WLMail I don't see where I can keep a separate
> >> folder for each group. When I click "New Message" and then to "To" button,
> >> all my contacts are all together... which sucks because now I have to weed
> >> through all of them to find the few that I want. I tried setting up "groups"
> >> in Contacts, but I don't see the groups with I click to "To" button.
> >>
> >> Am I missing something?
> >> --
> >> Doug
> >
>
>

I suppose there always will be people unhappy over the fact that
WLM has fewer features than Outlook. If that was not the case,
MS would have a tough time charging money for Outlook.

Gary VanderMolen


"Doug Custer" <DougCuster@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:9578AB09-519A-4FF3-B00E-27F160301BE9@microsoft.com...
> Noel... I understand what you are saying, but if I have a group that has 50
> contacts in it, and I want to send to 20 of them, then I have to delete on
> the "To:" line 30 of them... instead of just selecting the 20 that I want. I
> just can't figure out why MS would not carry forward a feature that I used
> extensively... and I assume others did too. I guess my only option is to
> install the full blown Outlook because I know it has this feature... at least
> Outlook 2003 does.
>
> Thanks everyone for your response.
> --
> Doug
>
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
>
>> Thanks for your explanation.
>> Upon further investigation I see that Contact Groups in WLM are
>> more flexible than I had experienced with WM.
>> WLM contact groups are expandable (thus can be trimmed on the
>> fly), while WM contact groups can't be expanded on the 'To' line,
>> so it's only an all-or-nothing distribution list.
>>
>> Chalk one up in the win column for WLM!
>>
>> Gary VanderMolen
>>
>>
>> "Ildhund" <jnllb@removemsn.com> wrote in message news:eEEutE5rHHA.4364@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> > It's years since I last used OE so I can't compare with that, but I have trouble understanding your problem. I have groups of
>> > contacts, some of them overlapping (i.e. Jim is in both the group called "Family" and that called "Environment"). If I want
>> > to
>> > send a message to just the immediate family, I select "Family" in the Contacts list and click "To:",* expand the group and
>> > delete the ones I don't want the message to go to. "Family" comes after "Eyvind" but before "Fanny" in the list - and it's in
>> > bold type.
>> >
>> > *Actually, I just begin typing "fam..." in the To: field and the group name pops up ready for selection.
>> >
>> > Noel
>> >
>> > "Doug Custer" <DougCuster@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> > news:1793D07E-3C51-4C2D-AA20-6B6F2480F0D0@microsoft.com...
>> >> In OE, I could go into the Adress Book and create different folders in my
>> >> Contact area. I might have a folder for "Golfing Buddies" and another for
>> >> "Work Buddies". I could add different contacts into each folder and they
>> >> would remain separated. In WLMail I don't see where I can keep a separate
>> >> folder for each group. When I click "New Message" and then to "To" button,
>> >> all my contacts are all together... which sucks because now I have to weed
>> >> through all of them to find the few that I want. I tried setting up "groups"
>> >> in Contacts, but I don't see the groups with I click to "To" button.
>> >>
>> >> Am I missing something?
>> >> --
>> >> Doug
>> >
>>
>>

To clarify, are you asking for support for having groups as members of
groups? (groups inside groups?)

Thanks,
Alton



"Doug Custer" <DougCuster@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:9578AB09-519A-4FF3-B00E-27F160301BE9@microsoft.com...
> Noel... I understand what you are saying, but if I have a group that has
> 50
> contacts in it, and I want to send to 20 of them, then I have to delete on
> the "To:" line 30 of them... instead of just selecting the 20 that I want.
> I
> just can't figure out why MS would not carry forward a feature that I used
> extensively... and I assume others did too. I guess my only option is to
> install the full blown Outlook because I know it has this feature... at
> least
> Outlook 2003 does.
>
> Thanks everyone for your response.
> --
> Doug
>
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
>
>> Thanks for your explanation.
>> Upon further investigation I see that Contact Groups in WLM are
>> more flexible than I had experienced with WM.
>> WLM contact groups are expandable (thus can be trimmed on the
>> fly), while WM contact groups can't be expanded on the 'To' line,
>> so it's only an all-or-nothing distribution list.
>>
>> Chalk one up in the win column for WLM!
>>
>> Gary VanderMolen
>>
>>
>> "Ildhund" <jnllb@removemsn.com> wrote in message
>> news:eEEutE5rHHA.4364@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> > It's years since I last used OE so I can't compare with that, but I
>> > have trouble understanding your problem. I have groups of
>> > contacts, some of them overlapping (i.e. Jim is in both the group
>> > called "Family" and that called "Environment"). If I want to
>> > send a message to just the immediate family, I select "Family" in the
>> > Contacts list and click "To:",* expand the group and
>> > delete the ones I don't want the message to go to. "Family" comes after
>> > "Eyvind" but before "Fanny" in the list - and it's in
>> > bold type.
>> >
>> > *Actually, I just begin typing "fam..." in the To: field and the group
>> > name pops up ready for selection.
>> >
>> > Noel
>> >
>> > "Doug Custer" <DougCuster@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> > news:1793D07E-3C51-4C2D-AA20-6B6F2480F0D0@microsoft.com...
>> >> In OE, I could go into the Adress Book and create different folders in
>> >> my
>> >> Contact area. I might have a folder for "Golfing Buddies" and another
>> >> for
>> >> "Work Buddies". I could add different contacts into each folder and
>> >> they
>> >> would remain separated. In WLMail I don't see where I can keep a
>> >> separate
>> >> folder for each group. When I click "New Message" and then to "To"
>> >> button,
>> >> all my contacts are all together... which sucks because now I have to
>> >> weed
>> >> through all of them to find the few that I want. I tried setting up
>> >> "groups"
>> >> in Contacts, but I don't see the groups with I click to "To" button.
>> >>
>> >> Am I missing something?
>> >> --
>> >> Doug
>> >
>>
>>

If I may speak for Doug, he wants to be able to select from members of
a group on the fly, as far as which ones will appear on the 'To' line.
This is the opposite of how WLM's contacts group works, with all members
of that group appearing on the 'To' line, and further selection is done by
deleting the ones you don't want. There are trade-offs either way. If you
will be using almost all the members of a group, the WLM way is faster.
If you need less than half of a group, Doug's way is faster.

Gary VanderMolen

"Alton Kwok [MSFT]" <altonkwok@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:BA083F44-AA4C-47AB-8DFB-FB5256DD1AEF@microsoft.com...
> To clarify, are you asking for support for having groups as members of groups? (groups inside groups?)
>
> Thanks,
> Alton
>
>
>
> "Doug Custer" <DougCuster@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:9578AB09-519A-4FF3-B00E-27F160301BE9@microsoft.com...
>> Noel... I understand what you are saying, but if I have a group that has 50
>> contacts in it, and I want to send to 20 of them, then I have to delete on
>> the "To:" line 30 of them... instead of just selecting the 20 that I want. I
>> just can't figure out why MS would not carry forward a feature that I used
>> extensively... and I assume others did too. I guess my only option is to
>> install the full blown Outlook because I know it has this feature... at least
>> Outlook 2003 does.
>>
>> Thanks everyone for your response.
>> --
>> Doug
>>
>>
>> "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for your explanation.
>>> Upon further investigation I see that Contact Groups in WLM are
>>> more flexible than I had experienced with WM.
>>> WLM contact groups are expandable (thus can be trimmed on the
>>> fly), while WM contact groups can't be expanded on the 'To' line,
>>> so it's only an all-or-nothing distribution list.
>>>
>>> Chalk one up in the win column for WLM!
>>>
>>> Gary VanderMolen
>>>
>>>
>>> "Ildhund" <jnllb@removemsn.com> wrote in message news:eEEutE5rHHA.4364@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> > It's years since I last used OE so I can't compare with that, but I have trouble understanding your problem. I have groups
>>> > of
>>> > contacts, some of them overlapping (i.e. Jim is in both the group called "Family" and that called "Environment"). If I want
>>> > to
>>> > send a message to just the immediate family, I select "Family" in the Contacts list and click "To:",* expand the group and
>>> > delete the ones I don't want the message to go to. "Family" comes after "Eyvind" but before "Fanny" in the list - and it's
>>> > in
>>> > bold type.
>>> >
>>> > *Actually, I just begin typing "fam..." in the To: field and the group name pops up ready for selection.
>>> >
>>> > Noel
>>> >
>>> > "Doug Custer" <DougCuster@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> > news:1793D07E-3C51-4C2D-AA20-6B6F2480F0D0@microsoft.com...
>>> >> In OE, I could go into the Adress Book and create different folders in my
>>> >> Contact area. I might have a folder for "Golfing Buddies" and another for
>>> >> "Work Buddies". I could add different contacts into each folder and they
>>> >> would remain separated. In WLMail I don't see where I can keep a separate
>>> >> folder for each group. When I click "New Message" and then to "To" button,
>>> >> all my contacts are all together... which sucks because now I have to weed
>>> >> through all of them to find the few that I want. I tried setting up "groups"
>>> >> in Contacts, but I don't see the groups with I click to "To" button.
>>> >>
>>> >> Am I missing something?
>>> >> --
>>> >> Doug
>>> >
>>>
>>>