Windows Live Mail (desktop) Blog Entry - 5/7/07

I just read this blog entry from Tanja and think it is a very interesting
development. No date announced yet...
-steve

http://morethanmail.spaces.live.com/...9A1!3301.entry


Today is an incredibly exciting day for our team as we finally get to talk about
what we've been working on and to let you know about some of the future plans
for our product, especially as Windows Live Hotmail just launched.
In just a few short weeks, a beta release of our new consumer email client -
Windows Live Mail - will be available for download! No longer will there be any
such thing as WLMd - that's all in the past! Time to look forward… :
I know many of you have been wondering what the team has been up to since we
haven't posted on the Blog or provided a new Beta build to you for a number of
months… Well, hopefully this post will help answer some of those questions for
you. Here's a small glimpse into what you can expect from the upcoming Windows
Live Mail builds…
Name Change
I'm sure one of the first things you're going to notice is the new name. But,
it's more than a name - it's a step forward. We're bringing in features from
OE, Windows Mail AND Windows Live Mail desktop.
I know some of you saw this coming after WL Hotmail announced their name change
from WL Mail. Back then I couldn't comment on what the new name would be, but
now we can talk a little more openly with you. The WL Mail team is very psyched
about this new name - if for no other reason than it's just a lot less wordy.
;-)
What You Can Expect
If you're wondering whether or not all this time we've been keeping quiet was
just due to the pending name change, I can assure you it's not. We have been
working hard and the upcoming release will contain a number of new features, as
well as some updates to the ones that already existed.
Windows Live Mail will include all the great features that were available to you
in WLMd, plus:
-New and improved UI: Cleaner design, and now with Aero support!
-Setup and account migration improvements: Smoother experience overall - you
will now have fewer steps in order to get started with the client.
-More parity with OE and Windows Mail: S/MIME and LDAP support are just two of
the features that we've been working on for WLM which will bring us more parity
with our other free Mail clients.
-Performance and stability: The new product will be faster and more robust than
WLMd.
-No Ads: Yes, it's true - there will be no graphical ads in the WLM beta build.
Availability
After all this build-up I bet you're wondering when you can get it and how… The
download will be available in another few weeks - but it's not too far off on
the horizon!
I can still give a few specific details though so you will know where to go when
the build actually is ready…
-WLM downloads will be available from http://get.live.com/betas.
-Just like WLMd, we will support install on XPSP2 and Windows Vista.
That's all folks!
I guess that's about it for this Blog post! Keep your eyes peeled for install
info. You won't have to wait very long, and once I have more details for you I
will be sure to send out an update…
We are really excited to be getting back out there with a new product and can't
wait to hear what you think! We have re-enabled "comments" on this blog, so
tell us what you think!
See the press release for Windows Live Hotmail which also mentions Windows Live
Mail: WL Hotmail Press Release.
Bye for now!
--Tanja
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
Stephen Boots
Microsoft MVP - Windows Live
sboots@mvps.org

notice they said no graphical ads. nothing about the active
search sidebar...

"StephenB" <sboots@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:t4ju33pka2onubv19od61m0ms5nqekjd6k@4ax.com...
>I just read this blog entry from Tanja and think it is a very
>interesting
> development. No date announced yet...
> -steve
>
> http://morethanmail.spaces.live.com/...9A1!3301.entry
>
>
> Today is an incredibly exciting day for our team as we finally
> get to talk about
> what we've been working on and to let you know about some of
> the future plans
> for our product, especially as Windows Live Hotmail just
> launched.
> In just a few short weeks, a beta release of our new consumer
> email client -
> Windows Live Mail - will be available for download! No longer
> will there be any
> such thing as WLMd - that's all in the past! Time to look
> forward. :
> I know many of you have been wondering what the team has been
> up to since we
> haven't posted on the Blog or provided a new Beta build to you
> for a number of
> months. Well, hopefully this post will help answer some of
> those questions for
> you. Here's a small glimpse into what you can expect from the
> upcoming Windows
> Live Mail builds.
> Name Change
> I'm sure one of the first things you're going to notice is the
> new name. But,
> it's more than a name - it's a step forward. We're bringing in
> features from
> OE, Windows Mail AND Windows Live Mail desktop.
> I know some of you saw this coming after WL Hotmail announced
> their name change
> from WL Mail. Back then I couldn't comment on what the new
> name would be, but
> now we can talk a little more openly with you. The WL Mail
> team is very psyched
> about this new name - if for no other reason than it's just a
> lot less wordy.
> ;-)
> What You Can Expect
> If you're wondering whether or not all this time we've been
> keeping quiet was
> just due to the pending name change, I can assure you it's not.
> We have been
> working hard and the upcoming release will contain a number of
> new features, as
> well as some updates to the ones that already existed.
> Windows Live Mail will include all the great features that were
> available to you
> in WLMd, plus:
> -New and improved UI: Cleaner design, and now with Aero
> support!
> -Setup and account migration improvements: Smoother experience
> overall - you
> will now have fewer steps in order to get started with the
> client.
> -More parity with OE and Windows Mail: S/MIME and LDAP support
> are just two of
> the features that we've been working on for WLM which will
> bring us more parity
> with our other free Mail clients.
> -Performance and stability: The new product will be faster and
> more robust than
> WLMd.
> -No Ads: Yes, it's true - there will be no graphical ads in
> the WLM beta build.
> Availability
> After all this build-up I bet you're wondering when you can get
> it and how. The
> download will be available in another few weeks - but it's not
> too far off on
> the horizon!
> I can still give a few specific details though so you will know
> where to go when
> the build actually is ready.
> -WLM downloads will be available from
> http://get.live.com/betas.
> -Just like WLMd, we will support install on XPSP2 and Windows
> Vista.
> That's all folks!
> I guess that's about it for this Blog post! Keep your eyes
> peeled for install
> info. You won't have to wait very long, and once I have more
> details for you I
> will be sure to send out an update.
> We are really excited to be getting back out there with a new
> product and can't
> wait to hear what you think! We have re-enabled "comments" on
> this blog, so
> tell us what you think!
> See the press release for Windows Live Hotmail which also
> mentions Windows Live
> Mail: WL Hotmail Press Release.
> Bye for now!
> --Tanja
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
> Stephen Boots
> Microsoft MVP - Windows Live
> sboots@mvps.org

Right, but it says here in this preview that you can toggle it off:
http://www.winsupersite.com/reviews/winlive_hotmail.asp

"mj" <mj@vistauser.com> wrote in message
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> notice they said no graphical ads. nothing about the active search
> sidebar...
>
> "StephenB" <sboots@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:t4ju33pka2onubv19od61m0ms5nqekjd6k@4ax.com...
>>I just read this blog entry from Tanja and think it is a very interesting
>> development. No date announced yet...
>> -steve
>>
>> http://morethanmail.spaces.live.com/...9A1!3301.entry
>>
>>
>> Today is an incredibly exciting day for our team as we finally get to
>> talk about
>> what we've been working on and to let you know about some of the future
>> plans
>> for our product, especially as Windows Live Hotmail just launched.
>> In just a few short weeks, a beta release of our new consumer email
>> client -
>> Windows Live Mail - will be available for download! No longer will there
>> be any
>> such thing as WLMd - that's all in the past! Time to look forward. :
>> I know many of you have been wondering what the team has been up to since
>> we
>> haven't posted on the Blog or provided a new Beta build to you for a
>> number of
>> months. Well, hopefully this post will help answer some of those
>> questions for
>> you. Here's a small glimpse into what you can expect from the upcoming
>> Windows
>> Live Mail builds.
>> Name Change
>> I'm sure one of the first things you're going to notice is the new name.
>> But,
>> it's more than a name - it's a step forward. We're bringing in features
>> from
>> OE, Windows Mail AND Windows Live Mail desktop.
>> I know some of you saw this coming after WL Hotmail announced their name
>> change
>> from WL Mail. Back then I couldn't comment on what the new name would
>> be, but
>> now we can talk a little more openly with you. The WL Mail team is very
>> psyched
>> about this new name - if for no other reason than it's just a lot less
>> wordy.
>> ;-)
>> What You Can Expect
>> If you're wondering whether or not all this time we've been keeping quiet
>> was
>> just due to the pending name change, I can assure you it's not. We have
>> been
>> working hard and the upcoming release will contain a number of new
>> features, as
>> well as some updates to the ones that already existed.
>> Windows Live Mail will include all the great features that were available
>> to you
>> in WLMd, plus:
>> -New and improved UI: Cleaner design, and now with Aero support!
>> -Setup and account migration improvements: Smoother experience overall -
>> you
>> will now have fewer steps in order to get started with the client.
>> -More parity with OE and Windows Mail: S/MIME and LDAP support are just
>> two of
>> the features that we've been working on for WLM which will bring us more
>> parity
>> with our other free Mail clients.
>> -Performance and stability: The new product will be faster and more
>> robust than
>> WLMd.
>> -No Ads: Yes, it's true - there will be no graphical ads in the WLM beta
>> build.
>> Availability
>> After all this build-up I bet you're wondering when you can get it and
>> how. The
>> download will be available in another few weeks - but it's not too far
>> off on
>> the horizon!
>> I can still give a few specific details though so you will know where to
>> go when
>> the build actually is ready.
>> -WLM downloads will be available from http://get.live.com/betas.
>> -Just like WLMd, we will support install on XPSP2 and Windows Vista.
>> That's all folks!
>> I guess that's about it for this Blog post! Keep your eyes peeled for
>> install
>> info. You won't have to wait very long, and once I have more details for
>> you I
>> will be sure to send out an update.
>> We are really excited to be getting back out there with a new product and
>> can't
>> wait to hear what you think! We have re-enabled "comments" on this blog,
>> so
>> tell us what you think!
>> See the press release for Windows Live Hotmail which also mentions
>> Windows Live
>> Mail: WL Hotmail Press Release.
>> Bye for now!
>> --Tanja
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> --
>> Stephen Boots
>> Microsoft MVP - Windows Live
>> sboots@mvps.org
>

"Milhouse Van Houten" <btvs@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:O5#$UGPkHHA.588@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Right, but it says here in this preview that you can toggle it
> off:
> http://www.winsupersite.com/reviews/winlive_hotmail.asp
>
right but that was when there were graphical ads. My guess is
they said "graphical" for a very specific reason.

"mj" <mj@vistauser.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> "Milhouse Van Houten" <btvs@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
> news:O5#$UGPkHHA.588@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Right, but it says here in this preview that you can toggle it off:
>> http://www.winsupersite.com/reviews/winlive_hotmail.asp
>>
> right but that was when there were graphical ads. My guess is they said
> "graphical" for a very specific reason.

I don't know it seems pretty clear in that it can be toggled off and that
they're satisfied making money by selling Office and showing ads on Hotmail:

Though the ad-filled Active Search pane from the private beta will continue,
you can now toggle it off. Halleluiah.

Windows Live Mail will requires Windows XP SP2 or newer. Did I mention it
was free? Why is it free? "We want people to consider Hotmail as their
primary personal email account," Richardson said. "We can monetize Hotmail
via ads in the Web service, but also via the Outlook Connector, because
people have to buy Office or Outlook to utilize that. Plus, people who use
Hotmail with a desktop client are typically more active email users: They
are more likely to buy Windows Live Hotmail Plus." (See below.)

This screenshot:

http://www.winsupersite.com/images/r...hotmail_03.jpg

.... shows a small ad in the bottom left of the window.

If WLMd introduced a small ad at the bottom of the leftmost pane, I could
live with that. That's wasted space for most users I would wager.

"Milhouse Van Houten" <btvs@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
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> "mj" <mj@vistauser.com> wrote in message
> news:urctsUPkHHA.4596@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>
>>
>> "Milhouse Van Houten" <btvs@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
>> news:O5#$UGPkHHA.588@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> Right, but it says here in this preview that you can toggle it off:
>>> http://www.winsupersite.com/reviews/winlive_hotmail.asp
>>>
>> right but that was when there were graphical ads. My guess is they said
>> "graphical" for a very specific reason.
>
> I don't know it seems pretty clear in that it can be toggled off and that
> they're satisfied making money by selling Office and showing ads on
> Hotmail:
>
> Though the ad-filled Active Search pane from the private beta will
> continue, you can now toggle it off. Halleluiah.
>
> Windows Live Mail will requires Windows XP SP2 or newer. Did I mention it
> was free? Why is it free? "We want people to consider Hotmail as their
> primary personal email account," Richardson said. "We can monetize Hotmail
> via ads in the Web service, but also via the Outlook Connector, because
> people have to buy Office or Outlook to utilize that. Plus, people who use
> Hotmail with a desktop client are typically more active email users: They
> are more likely to buy Windows Live Hotmail Plus." (See below.)

"Milhouse Van Houten" <btvs@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:O5#$UGPkHHA.588@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Right, but it says here in this preview that you can toggle it
> off:
> http://www.winsupersite.com/reviews/winlive_hotmail.asp
>
you know that is a review of hotmail right? and you can toggle
a/s off. you get a very annoying picture if you toggle it off.
active search is not all that annoying I can live with it. But
they said "graphical
". why would you say graphical if you could just say no ads
period?

"mj" <mj@vistauser.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> "Milhouse Van Houten" <btvs@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
> news:O5#$UGPkHHA.588@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Right, but it says here in this preview that you can toggle it off:
>> http://www.winsupersite.com/reviews/winlive_hotmail.asp
>>
> you know that is a review of hotmail right? and you can toggle a/s off.
> you get a very annoying picture if you toggle it off. active search is not
> all that annoying I can live with it. But they said "graphical
> ". why would you say graphical if you could just say no ads period?


Ever seen a magician?

Did he have something up his sleeve?????

Ok, here's another one. You're playing poker, you don't show you hand
before betting do you???

A lot of speculation is going to be going on till they bring something out.

I'm going out of a limb and say it's not going to be able to use a 25 round
banana clip.

Air conditioning will not be an add-on.

Can't put Mickey Thompson N50's on it.

It is not fuel injected.

"DGuess" <majik@mindspring.oops> wrote:

>Ever seen a magician?
>
>Did he have something up his sleeve?????
>
>Ok, here's another one. You're playing poker, you don't show you hand
>before betting do you???
>
>A lot of speculation is going to be going on till they bring something out.
>
>I'm going out of a limb and say it's not going to be able to use a 25 round
>banana clip.
>
>Air conditioning will not be an add-on.
>
>Can't put Mickey Thompson N50's on it.
>
>It is not fuel injected.
LOL!
Yes, we'll need to wait a few weeks, apparently, to see what the product
*really* bringso the table. The post by Tanja was a welcome surprise yesterday.
-steve
--
Stephen Boots
MVP Windows Live
Windows Live OneCare Forum Moderator
sboots@mvps.org

yes the new ver. of Windows Live mail (client) will be released in late MAY
according to the NEW Windows Live Mail (client) Support Team Space, have you
checked this ?
http://wlmailclient.spaces.live.com/

Thanks & regards
--
vasudev
=========================

"StephenB" <sboots@mvps.org> wrote in message
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> "DGuess" <majik@mindspring.oops> wrote:
>
>>Ever seen a magician?
>>
>>Did he have something up his sleeve?????
>>
>>Ok, here's another one. You're playing poker, you don't show you hand
>>before betting do you???
>>
>>A lot of speculation is going to be going on till they bring something
>>out.
>>
>>I'm going out of a limb and say it's not going to be able to use a 25
>>round
>>banana clip.
>>
>>Air conditioning will not be an add-on.
>>
>>Can't put Mickey Thompson N50's on it.
>>
>>It is not fuel injected.
> LOL!
> Yes, we'll need to wait a few weeks, apparently, to see what the product
> *really* bringso the table. The post by Tanja was a welcome surprise
> yesterday.
> -steve
> --
> Stephen Boots
> MVP Windows Live
> Windows Live OneCare Forum Moderator
> sboots@mvps.org