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Can others confirm the empty pasted hyperlink problem?

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Old 04-16-2007
Mickey Segal
 

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Can others confirm the empty pasted hyperlink problem?
On three different Vista computers I get nonfunctional hyperlinks created by
Windows Mail when pasting a hyperlink into an HTML email message. The text
is colored blue, but the text is not linked to a location on the Web. To
the sender it seems like everything is OK since the hyperlink is colored
blue. However, the recipient gets a broken hyperlink, pointing to a blank
URL.

It seems that the problem does not occur on some computers: Frank Saunders
wrote that he did not see the problem on his computer.

The problem occurs in several different situations involving pasted
hyperlinks, but here how to see the simplest form:

1. Use "Create Mail" to open a new message, and make sure you are using
HTML format (Format | Rich Text (HTML))
2. Type http://www.cnn.com
3. Hit the Enter key twice
4. Copy the first line and paste it into the third line.
5. Send the message to yourself.

The typed hyperlink in the first line works, but the pasted hyperlink in the
third line does nothing. The HTML in the message source can be seen (by
right clicking on the message in the inbox, choosing Properties | Details |
Message Source) as:

<HTML><HEAD>
<META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Diso-8859-1">
<META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16397" name=3DGENERATOR>
<STYLE></STYLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
<DIV><A href=3D"http://www.cnn.com">http://www.cnn.com</A></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><A href=3D"">http://www.cnn.com</A></DIV></BODY></HTML>

Note that in the pasted hyperlink (last line) there is an empty string for
the URL (in the quotes). In contrast, for the typed hyperlink (two lines
up) there is http://www.cnn.com for the URL (in the quotes).

Do others see this problem or fail to see this problem? I see it on
computers with three different versions of Windows (Home Premium, Business
and Home), and although Firefox has been the default browser on all three
computers, the problem still occurs when setting Internet Explorer to
default.

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Old 04-16-2007
DGuess
 

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Re: Can others confirm the empty pasted hyperlink problem?
Can not confirm on any Vista machine.

"Mickey Segal" <not_monitored@example.com> wrote in message
news:eLDcKeCgHHA.4872@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> On three different Vista computers I get nonfunctional hyperlinks created
> by Windows Mail when pasting a hyperlink into an HTML email message. The
> text is colored blue, but the text is not linked to a location on the Web.
> To the sender it seems like everything is OK since the hyperlink is
> colored blue. However, the recipient gets a broken hyperlink, pointing to
> a blank URL.
>
> It seems that the problem does not occur on some computers: Frank Saunders
> wrote that he did not see the problem on his computer.
>
> The problem occurs in several different situations involving pasted
> hyperlinks, but here how to see the simplest form:
>
> 1. Use "Create Mail" to open a new message, and make sure you are using
> HTML format (Format | Rich Text (HTML))
> 2. Type http://www.cnn.com
> 3. Hit the Enter key twice
> 4. Copy the first line and paste it into the third line.
> 5. Send the message to yourself.
>
> The typed hyperlink in the first line works, but the pasted hyperlink in
> the third line does nothing. The HTML in the message source can be seen
> (by right clicking on the message in the inbox, choosing Properties |
> Details | Message Source) as:
>
> <HTML><HEAD>
> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
> charset=3Diso-8859-1">
> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16397" name=3DGENERATOR>
> <STYLE></STYLE>
> </HEAD>
> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
> <DIV><A href=3D"http://www.cnn.com">http://www.cnn.com</A></DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><A href=3D"">http://www.cnn.com</A></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>
> Note that in the pasted hyperlink (last line) there is an empty string for
> the URL (in the quotes). In contrast, for the typed hyperlink (two lines
> up) there is http://www.cnn.com for the URL (in the quotes).
>
> Do others see this problem or fail to see this problem? I see it on
> computers with three different versions of Windows (Home Premium, Business
> and Home), and although Firefox has been the default browser on all three
> computers, the problem still occurs when setting Internet Explorer to
> default.


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Old 04-17-2007
Mickey Segal
 

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Re: Can others confirm the empty pasted hyperlink problem?
Does anyone have any insight on the difference that could explain why I see
it on three different Vista computers? The computers are very different:

1. Tablet PC with clean install of Vista Business
2. Desktop computer with clean install of Vista Home
3. New desktop computer with Vista Home Premium

On computer #3 I even created a new profile and found the problem in the
first Windows Mail message I created. It seems odd that two other people
don't see the problem and I see it in all cases I examine.

"DGuess" <majik@mindspring.oops> wrote in message
newsBE89039-5A46-41CC-A121-73A81A85BEE6@microsoft.com...
> Can not confirm on any Vista machine.


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Old 04-17-2007
Gary VanderMolen
 

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Re: Can others confirm the empty pasted hyperlink problem?
Both hyperlinks work when I sent a test to myself, although there is
a distinct difference in the HTML coding:
<DIV><A href=3D3D"http://www.cnn.com">http://www.cnn.com</A></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><A href=3D3D"">http://www.cnn.com</A></DIV></BODY></HTML>

Perhaps the hyperlink's effectiveness hinges on some setting in the
recipient's WinMail, such as Internet zone (which I use) vs. Restricted sites zone.

Gary VanderMolen

"Mickey Segal" <not_monitored@example.com> wrote in message news:uxxMVgIgHHA.1596@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Does anyone have any insight on the difference that could explain why I see it on three different Vista computers? The
> computers are very different:
>
> 1. Tablet PC with clean install of Vista Business
> 2. Desktop computer with clean install of Vista Home
> 3. New desktop computer with Vista Home Premium
>
> On computer #3 I even created a new profile and found the problem in the first Windows Mail message I created. It seems odd
> that two other people don't see the problem and I see it in all cases I examine.
>
> "DGuess" <majik@mindspring.oops> wrote in message newsBE89039-5A46-41CC-A121-73A81A85BEE6@microsoft.com...
>> Can not confirm on any Vista machine.



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Old 04-17-2007
DGuess
 

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Re: Can others confirm the empty pasted hyperlink problem?
Any siimilar software like AV, anti-spyware or anti-spam, etc


"Mickey Segal" <not_monitored@example.com> wrote in message
news:uxxMVgIgHHA.1596@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Does anyone have any insight on the difference that could explain why I
> see it on three different Vista computers? The computers are very
> different:
>
> 1. Tablet PC with clean install of Vista Business
> 2. Desktop computer with clean install of Vista Home
> 3. New desktop computer with Vista Home Premium
>
> On computer #3 I even created a new profile and found the problem in the
> first Windows Mail message I created. It seems odd that two other people
> don't see the problem and I see it in all cases I examine.
>
> "DGuess" <majik@mindspring.oops> wrote in message
> newsBE89039-5A46-41CC-A121-73A81A85BEE6@microsoft.com...
>> Can not confirm on any Vista machine.

>


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Old 04-17-2007
Mickey Segal
 

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Re: Can others confirm the empty pasted hyperlink problem?
The last line of this code should produce a non-functional link if viewed in
HTML. I should have added:

6. Read the message in HTML

Are you set to read messages in plain text?

"Gary VanderMolen" <gary@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
news:OrDL1rIgHHA.596@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Both hyperlinks work when I sent a test to myself, although there is
> a distinct difference in the HTML coding:
> <DIV><A href=3D3D"http://www.cnn.com">http://www.cnn.com</A></DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><A href=3D3D"">http://www.cnn.com</A></DIV></BODY></HTML>


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Old 04-17-2007
Mickey Segal
 

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Re: Can others confirm the empty pasted hyperlink problem?
That is a good thought, and all 3 have NOD32, but I see the problem when I
examine the HTML in the sent folder, and I don't think the antivirus program
changes the message on the sending end.

Are you reading the message in HTML? When you view the HTML of your
messages, is the first CNN line different from the second CNN line?

"DGuess" <majik@mindspring.oops> wrote in message
news:A1D7A8F0-AEA9-4FA3-BB9C-70D1FAF5711A@microsoft.com...
> Any siimilar software like AV, anti-spyware or anti-spam, etc


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Old 04-17-2007
Gary VanderMolen
 

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Re: Can others confirm the empty pasted hyperlink problem?
No, I'm not configured for reading in plain text.

Gary VanderMolen

"Mickey Segal" <not_monitored@example.com> wrote in message news:e%23I$eyIgHHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> The last line of this code should produce a non-functional link if viewed in HTML. I should have added:
>
> 6. Read the message in HTML
>
> Are you set to read messages in plain text?
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message news:OrDL1rIgHHA.596@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Both hyperlinks work when I sent a test to myself, although there is
>> a distinct difference in the HTML coding:
>> <DIV><A href=3D3D"http://www.cnn.com">http://www.cnn.com</A></DIV>
>> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
>> <DIV><A href=3D3D"">http://www.cnn.com</A></DIV></BODY></HTML>



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Old 04-17-2007
DGuess
 

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Re: Can others confirm the empty pasted hyperlink problem?
NOD32 here as well and yes, it is read in HTML.

Any browser add-ons that might be affecting it?



"Mickey Segal" <not_monitored@example.com> wrote in message
news:OtZEy0IgHHA.1552@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> That is a good thought, and all 3 have NOD32, but I see the problem when I
> examine the HTML in the sent folder, and I don't think the antivirus
> program changes the message on the sending end.
>
> Are you reading the message in HTML? When you view the HTML of your
> messages, is the first CNN line different from the second CNN line?
>
> "DGuess" <majik@mindspring.oops> wrote in message
> news:A1D7A8F0-AEA9-4FA3-BB9C-70D1FAF5711A@microsoft.com...
>> Any siimilar software like AV, anti-spyware or anti-spam, etc

>


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Old 04-17-2007
Mickey Segal
 

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Re: Can others confirm the empty pasted hyperlink problem?
The HTML code that you show should have the pasted link be non-functional.
It is hard to explain how the HTML that you showed would give a functional
link in the second CNN hyperlink.

"Gary VanderMolen" <gary@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
news:eFYtJ8IgHHA.3676@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> No, I'm not configured for reading in plain text.
>
> Gary VanderMolen
>
> "Mickey Segal" <not_monitored@example.com> wrote in message
> news:e%23I$eyIgHHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> The last line of this code should produce a non-functional link if viewed
>> in HTML. I should have added:
>>
>> 6. Read the message in HTML
>>
>> Are you set to read messages in plain text?
>>
>> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:OrDL1rIgHHA.596@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> Both hyperlinks work when I sent a test to myself, although there is
>>> a distinct difference in the HTML coding:
>>> <DIV><A href=3D3D"http://www.cnn.com">http://www.cnn.com</A></DIV>
>>> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
>>> <DIV><A href=3D3D"">http://www.cnn.com</A></DIV></BODY></HTML>


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