I cannot send mail using Vista Windows Mail

I have numerous email accounts and cannot send any mails out of Windows mail.
I have disabled all my email scanning programs and have even tried the "cmd"
route, disabling it, removing my accounts, and re-adding them. Nothing seems
to be working. I have no problems getting mail, I just can't send it. Here
is an example of several messages I get.

G-Mail accounts:

The connection to the server has failed. Subject 'test', Account:
'pop.gmail.com', Server: 'smtp.gmail.com', Protocol: SMTP, Port: 25,
Secure(SSL): Yes, Socket Error: 10060, Error Number: 0x800CCC0E

Other accounts:

The connection to the server has failed. Subject 'sda', Account:
'oldmancomputer@oldmancomputer.com', Server: 'smtpout.secureserver.net',
Protocol: SMTP, Port: 25, Secure(SSL): No, Socket Error: 10060, Error Number:
0x800CCC0E

&

The connection to the server has failed. Subject 'test', Account:
'mail.marvinmin.com', Server: 'mail.marvinmin.com', Protocol: SMTP, Port: 25,
Secure(SSL): No, Socket Error: 10060, Error Number: 0x800CCC0E

Old Man Andrew wrote:
> I have numerous email accounts and cannot send any mails out of Windows mail.
> I have disabled all my email scanning programs and have even tried the "cmd"
> route, disabling it, removing my accounts, and re-adding them. Nothing seems
> to be working. I have no problems getting mail, I just can't send it. Here
> is an example of several messages I get.
>
> G-Mail accounts:
>
> The connection to the server has failed. Subject 'test', Account:
> 'pop.gmail.com', Server: 'smtp.gmail.com', Protocol: SMTP, Port: 25,
> Secure(SSL): Yes, Socket Error: 10060, Error Number: 0x800CCC0E
>
> Other accounts:
>
> The connection to the server has failed. Subject 'sda', Account:
> 'oldmancomputer@oldmancomputer.com', Server: 'smtpout.secureserver.net',
> Protocol: SMTP, Port: 25, Secure(SSL): No, Socket Error: 10060, Error Number:
> 0x800CCC0E
>
> &
>
> The connection to the server has failed. Subject 'test', Account:
> 'mail.marvinmin.com', Server: 'mail.marvinmin.com', Protocol: SMTP, Port: 25,
> Secure(SSL): No, Socket Error: 10060, Error Number: 0x800CCC0E
>
>

I'm certainly not an expert with Windows Mail, but it looks to me like
you've set up your smtp servers incorrectly. Here are the instructions
for GMail:

http://mail.google.com/support/bin/a...y?answer=13287

For your other mail, are you running your own mail server? You have it
set to be smtpout.secureserver.net and mail.marvinmin.com. Is this
really correct for those two mail servers?


Malke
--
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User

I will check out the gmail configuration. As far as the other go, the
mail.marvinmin.com wokred fine when I had Win. XP outlook express. The
other, smtpout.secureserver.net is the one I was provided with through my
hosting domain.


"Malke" wrote:

> Old Man Andrew wrote:
> > I have numerous email accounts and cannot send any mails out of Windows mail.
> > I have disabled all my email scanning programs and have even tried the "cmd"
> > route, disabling it, removing my accounts, and re-adding them. Nothing seems
> > to be working. I have no problems getting mail, I just can't send it. Here
> > is an example of several messages I get.
> >
> > G-Mail accounts:
> >
> > The connection to the server has failed. Subject 'test', Account:
> > 'pop.gmail.com', Server: 'smtp.gmail.com', Protocol: SMTP, Port: 25,
> > Secure(SSL): Yes, Socket Error: 10060, Error Number: 0x800CCC0E
> >
> > Other accounts:
> >
> > The connection to the server has failed. Subject 'sda', Account:
> > 'oldmancomputer@oldmancomputer.com', Server: 'smtpout.secureserver.net',
> > Protocol: SMTP, Port: 25, Secure(SSL): No, Socket Error: 10060, Error Number:
> > 0x800CCC0E
> >
> > &
> >
> > The connection to the server has failed. Subject 'test', Account:
> > 'mail.marvinmin.com', Server: 'mail.marvinmin.com', Protocol: SMTP, Port: 25,
> > Secure(SSL): No, Socket Error: 10060, Error Number: 0x800CCC0E
> >
> >
>
> I'm certainly not an expert with Windows Mail, but it looks to me like
> you've set up your smtp servers incorrectly. Here are the instructions
> for GMail:
>
> http://mail.google.com/support/bin/a...y?answer=13287
>
> For your other mail, are you running your own mail server? You have it
> set to be smtpout.secureserver.net and mail.marvinmin.com. Is this
> really correct for those two mail servers?
>
>
> Malke
> --
> Elephant Boy Computers
> www.elephantboycomputers.com
> "Don't Panic!"
> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
>

The Gmail configuration worked, thank you. The other however are still
causing problems.

"Malke" wrote:

> Old Man Andrew wrote:
> > I have numerous email accounts and cannot send any mails out of Windows mail.
> > I have disabled all my email scanning programs and have even tried the "cmd"
> > route, disabling it, removing my accounts, and re-adding them. Nothing seems
> > to be working. I have no problems getting mail, I just can't send it. Here
> > is an example of several messages I get.
> >
> > G-Mail accounts:
> >
> > The connection to the server has failed. Subject 'test', Account:
> > 'pop.gmail.com', Server: 'smtp.gmail.com', Protocol: SMTP, Port: 25,
> > Secure(SSL): Yes, Socket Error: 10060, Error Number: 0x800CCC0E
> >
> > Other accounts:
> >
> > The connection to the server has failed. Subject 'sda', Account:
> > 'oldmancomputer@oldmancomputer.com', Server: 'smtpout.secureserver.net',
> > Protocol: SMTP, Port: 25, Secure(SSL): No, Socket Error: 10060, Error Number:
> > 0x800CCC0E
> >
> > &
> >
> > The connection to the server has failed. Subject 'test', Account:
> > 'mail.marvinmin.com', Server: 'mail.marvinmin.com', Protocol: SMTP, Port: 25,
> > Secure(SSL): No, Socket Error: 10060, Error Number: 0x800CCC0E
> >
> >
>
> I'm certainly not an expert with Windows Mail, but it looks to me like
> you've set up your smtp servers incorrectly. Here are the instructions
> for GMail:
>
> http://mail.google.com/support/bin/a...y?answer=13287
>
> For your other mail, are you running your own mail server? You have it
> set to be smtpout.secureserver.net and mail.marvinmin.com. Is this
> really correct for those two mail servers?
>
>
> Malke
> --
> Elephant Boy Computers
> www.elephantboycomputers.com
> "Don't Panic!"
> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
>

Ok. I checked my hosting service (www.godaddy.com) and I typed it in wrong.
I should have put my incoming as smtp.secureserver.net, and the outgoing port
as 80. I answered my own question! Everything is working fine now. Thank
you for your help!

"Malke" wrote:

> Old Man Andrew wrote:
> > I have numerous email accounts and cannot send any mails out of Windows mail.
> > I have disabled all my email scanning programs and have even tried the "cmd"
> > route, disabling it, removing my accounts, and re-adding them. Nothing seems
> > to be working. I have no problems getting mail, I just can't send it. Here
> > is an example of several messages I get.
> >
> > G-Mail accounts:
> >
> > The connection to the server has failed. Subject 'test', Account:
> > 'pop.gmail.com', Server: 'smtp.gmail.com', Protocol: SMTP, Port: 25,
> > Secure(SSL): Yes, Socket Error: 10060, Error Number: 0x800CCC0E
> >
> > Other accounts:
> >
> > The connection to the server has failed. Subject 'sda', Account:
> > 'oldmancomputer@oldmancomputer.com', Server: 'smtpout.secureserver.net',
> > Protocol: SMTP, Port: 25, Secure(SSL): No, Socket Error: 10060, Error Number:
> > 0x800CCC0E
> >
> > &
> >
> > The connection to the server has failed. Subject 'test', Account:
> > 'mail.marvinmin.com', Server: 'mail.marvinmin.com', Protocol: SMTP, Port: 25,
> > Secure(SSL): No, Socket Error: 10060, Error Number: 0x800CCC0E
> >
> >
>
> I'm certainly not an expert with Windows Mail, but it looks to me like
> you've set up your smtp servers incorrectly. Here are the instructions
> for GMail:
>
> http://mail.google.com/support/bin/a...y?answer=13287
>
> For your other mail, are you running your own mail server? You have it
> set to be smtpout.secureserver.net and mail.marvinmin.com. Is this
> really correct for those two mail servers?
>
>
> Malke
> --
> Elephant Boy Computers
> www.elephantboycomputers.com
> "Don't Panic!"
> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
>

Malke already pointed out that you have the wrong settings for smtp.gmail.com
(port number 25 is incorrect).

As for the others: I don't know who your Internet connectivity provider is,
but most will not allow port 25 connections to any SMTP server but
their own.

Gary VanderMolen

"Old Man Andrew" <Old Man Andrew@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:19DD0159-41E1-487D-90EA-9C85BEA34409@microsoft.com...
>I have numerous email accounts and cannot send any mails out of Windows mail.
> I have disabled all my email scanning programs and have even tried the "cmd"
> route, disabling it, removing my accounts, and re-adding them. Nothing seems
> to be working. I have no problems getting mail, I just can't send it. Here
> is an example of several messages I get.
>
> G-Mail accounts:
>
> The connection to the server has failed. Subject 'test', Account:
> 'pop.gmail.com', Server: 'smtp.gmail.com', Protocol: SMTP, Port: 25,
> Secure(SSL): Yes, Socket Error: 10060, Error Number: 0x800CCC0E
>
> Other accounts:
>
> The connection to the server has failed. Subject 'sda', Account:
> 'oldmancomputer@oldmancomputer.com', Server: 'smtpout.secureserver.net',
> Protocol: SMTP, Port: 25, Secure(SSL): No, Socket Error: 10060, Error Number:
> 0x800CCC0E
>
> &
>
> The connection to the server has failed. Subject 'test', Account:
> 'mail.marvinmin.com', Server: 'mail.marvinmin.com', Protocol: SMTP, Port: 25,
> Secure(SSL): No, Socket Error: 10060, Error Number: 0x800CCC0E
>
>

Old Man Andrew wrote:
> Ok. I checked my hosting service (www.godaddy.com) and I typed it in wrong.
> I should have put my incoming as smtp.secureserver.net, and the outgoing port
> as 80. I answered my own question! Everything is working fine now. Thank
> you for your help!

Yes, it is frustrating that the computer doesn't know what you really
*meant* instead of what you really *typed*. ;-)

Glad you got it sorted. Thanks for taking the time to post back.


Malke
--
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User

Please Help! I too have a Windows Mail problem. Up until a few days or maybe
a week ago there was no problem, but now I cannot send out mail, they just
sit there in the Outbox. My first problem is annoying, but this one is worse.
The first and still ongoing problem, is the deleted mail cannot be
permanently deleted. I can delete them one by one, but not all at once. I
will live with this for now, but as for my Sent mail not going out, I need
help soon please! When the Outbox is opened, there is a column for he Sent
date and this shows when they were sent, but I don't believe anything is
going out. I tried to send myself a message at two different email accounts
and neither one was received. Thanks for any help here! Looks like this new
Windows Mail is just as bad as Outlook Express in windows XP.

"Gary VanderMolen" wrote:

> Malke already pointed out that you have the wrong settings for smtp.gmail.com
> (port number 25 is incorrect).
>
> As for the others: I don't know who your Internet connectivity provider is,
> but most will not allow port 25 connections to any SMTP server but
> their own.
>
> Gary VanderMolen
>
> "Old Man Andrew" <Old Man Andrew@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:19DD0159-41E1-487D-90EA-9C85BEA34409@microsoft.com...
> >I have numerous email accounts and cannot send any mails out of Windows mail.
> > I have disabled all my email scanning programs and have even tried the "cmd"
> > route, disabling it, removing my accounts, and re-adding them. Nothing seems
> > to be working. I have no problems getting mail, I just can't send it. Here
> > is an example of several messages I get.
> >
> > G-Mail accounts:
> >
> > The connection to the server has failed. Subject 'test', Account:
> > 'pop.gmail.com', Server: 'smtp.gmail.com', Protocol: SMTP, Port: 25,
> > Secure(SSL): Yes, Socket Error: 10060, Error Number: 0x800CCC0E
> >
> > Other accounts:
> >
> > The connection to the server has failed. Subject 'sda', Account:
> > 'oldmancomputer@oldmancomputer.com', Server: 'smtpout.secureserver.net',
> > Protocol: SMTP, Port: 25, Secure(SSL): No, Socket Error: 10060, Error Number:
> > 0x800CCC0E
> >
> > &
> >
> > The connection to the server has failed. Subject 'test', Account:
> > 'mail.marvinmin.com', Server: 'mail.marvinmin.com', Protocol: SMTP, Port: 25,
> > Secure(SSL): No, Socket Error: 10060, Error Number: 0x800CCC0E
> >
> >
>
>

First thing is to remove McAfee or Norton AV and antispam from the computer
if they exist. You may need to visit their website to fully uninstall the
product. Then get something less invasive. There are a number of free
antivirus programs, but with any you have to disable email scanning. See
www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3

After that, the only solution so far is to wipe out the database. So go to
Tools | Options | Advanced | Maintenance | Store Folder to find the message
store location. Then move everything under that Windows Mail directory to
another directory. Then restart WinMail and it will open fresh with nothing
in the database. You can then add your accounts and if they work correctly
then you can use File | Import | Messages and choose WinMail format and
point to the directory to which you moved the files.

steve

"QuickJ" <QuickJ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:BEF3F5AE-FA4F-4FF6-9169-03C156373986@microsoft.com...
> Please Help! I too have a Windows Mail problem. Up until a few days or
> maybe
> a week ago there was no problem, but now I cannot send out mail, they just
> sit there in the Outbox. My first problem is annoying, but this one is
> worse.
> The first and still ongoing problem, is the deleted mail cannot be
> permanently deleted. I can delete them one by one, but not all at once. I
> will live with this for now, but as for my Sent mail not going out, I need
> help soon please! When the Outbox is opened, there is a column for he
> Sent
> date and this shows when they were sent, but I don't believe anything is
> going out. I tried to send myself a message at two different email
> accounts
> and neither one was received. Thanks for any help here! Looks like this
> new
> Windows Mail is just as bad as Outlook Express in windows XP.
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
>
>> Malke already pointed out that you have the wrong settings for
>> smtp.gmail.com
>> (port number 25 is incorrect).
>>
>> As for the others: I don't know who your Internet connectivity provider
>> is,
>> but most will not allow port 25 connections to any SMTP server but
>> their own.
>>
>> Gary VanderMolen
>>
>> "Old Man Andrew" <Old Man Andrew@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> message
>> news:19DD0159-41E1-487D-90EA-9C85BEA34409@microsoft.com...
>> >I have numerous email accounts and cannot send any mails out of Windows
>> >mail.
>> > I have disabled all my email scanning programs and have even tried the
>> > "cmd"
>> > route, disabling it, removing my accounts, and re-adding them. Nothing
>> > seems
>> > to be working. I have no problems getting mail, I just can't send it.
>> > Here
>> > is an example of several messages I get.
>> >
>> > G-Mail accounts:
>> >
>> > The connection to the server has failed. Subject 'test', Account:
>> > 'pop.gmail.com', Server: 'smtp.gmail.com', Protocol: SMTP, Port: 25,
>> > Secure(SSL): Yes, Socket Error: 10060, Error Number: 0x800CCC0E
>> >
>> > Other accounts:
>> >
>> > The connection to the server has failed. Subject 'sda', Account:
>> > 'oldmancomputer@oldmancomputer.com', Server:
>> > 'smtpout.secureserver.net',
>> > Protocol: SMTP, Port: 25, Secure(SSL): No, Socket Error: 10060, Error
>> > Number:
>> > 0x800CCC0E
>> >
>> > &
>> >
>> > The connection to the server has failed. Subject 'test', Account:
>> > 'mail.marvinmin.com', Server: 'mail.marvinmin.com', Protocol: SMTP,
>> > Port: 25,
>> > Secure(SSL): No, Socket Error: 10060, Error Number: 0x800CCC0E
>> >
>> >
>>
>>

Thanks Steve, but it did not work. I did as you said and placed everything in
a New Folder within Documents,then closed Windows mail. when I opened Windows
mail againm, there was still all messages as before with the six I have been
trying to send out still sitting there in the Outbox. When I went to the New
Folder to see what exactly was now in there. And lo and behold, a message
said that Windows could not open the items in this folder. This totally sucks
and I do not want to create a new email account somewhere else that I will
have to get online and go to that site to use email, but what else can I do.
The minute people start complaining about such things Microsoft should be on
it pronto. One other thing is, I can hook up my Camcorder to my iMac G4 and
away we go, we can import the video right off to iMovie and go from there,
but with this new laptop and Vista, I am asked for software and drivers for
the Camcorder. Those commercials on TV are so Truthful it isn't funny! This
laptop will be on Ebay shortly!

"Steve Cochran" wrote:

> First thing is to remove McAfee or Norton AV and antispam from the computer
> if they exist. You may need to visit their website to fully uninstall the
> product. Then get something less invasive. There are a number of free
> antivirus programs, but with any you have to disable email scanning. See
> www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3
>
> After that, the only solution so far is to wipe out the database. So go to
> Tools | Options | Advanced | Maintenance | Store Folder to find the message
> store location. Then move everything under that Windows Mail directory to
> another directory. Then restart WinMail and it will open fresh with nothing
> in the database. You can then add your accounts and if they work correctly
> then you can use File | Import | Messages and choose WinMail format and
> point to the directory to which you moved the files.
>
> steve
>
> "QuickJ" <QuickJ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:BEF3F5AE-FA4F-4FF6-9169-03C156373986@microsoft.com...
> > Please Help! I too have a Windows Mail problem. Up until a few days or
> > maybe
> > a week ago there was no problem, but now I cannot send out mail, they just
> > sit there in the Outbox. My first problem is annoying, but this one is
> > worse.
> > The first and still ongoing problem, is the deleted mail cannot be
> > permanently deleted. I can delete them one by one, but not all at once. I
> > will live with this for now, but as for my Sent mail not going out, I need
> > help soon please! When the Outbox is opened, there is a column for he
> > Sent
> > date and this shows when they were sent, but I don't believe anything is
> > going out. I tried to send myself a message at two different email
> > accounts
> > and neither one was received. Thanks for any help here! Looks like this
> > new
> > Windows Mail is just as bad as Outlook Express in windows XP.
> >
> > "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
> >
> >> Malke already pointed out that you have the wrong settings for
> >> smtp.gmail.com
> >> (port number 25 is incorrect).
> >>
> >> As for the others: I don't know who your Internet connectivity provider
> >> is,
> >> but most will not allow port 25 connections to any SMTP server but
> >> their own.
> >>
> >> Gary VanderMolen
> >>
> >> "Old Man Andrew" <Old Man Andrew@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> message
> >> news:19DD0159-41E1-487D-90EA-9C85BEA34409@microsoft.com...
> >> >I have numerous email accounts and cannot send any mails out of Windows
> >> >mail.
> >> > I have disabled all my email scanning programs and have even tried the
> >> > "cmd"
> >> > route, disabling it, removing my accounts, and re-adding them. Nothing
> >> > seems
> >> > to be working. I have no problems getting mail, I just can't send it.
> >> > Here
> >> > is an example of several messages I get.
> >> >
> >> > G-Mail accounts:
> >> >
> >> > The connection to the server has failed. Subject 'test', Account:
> >> > 'pop.gmail.com', Server: 'smtp.gmail.com', Protocol: SMTP, Port: 25,
> >> > Secure(SSL): Yes, Socket Error: 10060, Error Number: 0x800CCC0E
> >> >
> >> > Other accounts:
> >> >
> >> > The connection to the server has failed. Subject 'sda', Account:
> >> > 'oldmancomputer@oldmancomputer.com', Server:
> >> > 'smtpout.secureserver.net',
> >> > Protocol: SMTP, Port: 25, Secure(SSL): No, Socket Error: 10060, Error
> >> > Number:
> >> > 0x800CCC0E
> >> >
> >> > &
> >> >
> >> > The connection to the server has failed. Subject 'test', Account:
> >> > 'mail.marvinmin.com', Server: 'mail.marvinmin.com', Protocol: SMTP,
> >> > Port: 25,
> >> > Secure(SSL): No, Socket Error: 10060, Error Number: 0x800CCC0E
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
>