fixed unable to delete email problem, now I have new problem

Cool. Thanks.

"Gary VanderMolen" wrote:

> You might also want to try the one year free trial of CA's Antivirus
> 2007 for Vista: http://home3.ca.com/Microsoft/Defaul...?sc_lang=en-US
> I have used (and liked) their Windows XP version in the past, but have no
> experience with the Vista version.
>
> Gary VanderMolen
>

Why do you insist on persisting with McAfee since its very clear that it is
causing the problem?

steve

"Trick" <Trick@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A17EE494-ACF7-4504-B181-C14ADFC8C5B4@microsoft.com...
> Ok, I just finished with the McAfee tech. on their on-line chat service.
> After much dialogue, their rep. George M., said his "Sr. Tech" advised the
> stuck outbox header causing e-mail to stop sending & pile up in the outbox
> of
> Vista WinMail is a known issue.
>
> McAfee "Sr. Tech" advises they believe it is within McAfee SecurityCenter
> not Vista but they don't yet know the root cause either. Told me to check
> back on the website or contact them again to check if the fix has been
> published.
>
> So...the advice around "communities" to uninstall McAfee could be the
> right
> thing to do for some. For me, now that I've learned regeneration, will
> stick
> with McAfee. Who knows, maybe other issues arise w/other products. I
> normally use the CA Suite on my main computer and AVG on my backup XPs
> along
> the home network. I planned to go the free 90 days with McAfee then pay
> to
> switch to CA's product. Mostly just because of brand familiarity, I'm no
> expert to determine which one works better.
>
> Gary, pls advise when you can about your own experiment. Thx,
>
> T
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>> >"Trick" wrote:
>> > I am not ready to uninstall McAfee as that may slow down clue
>> > generation. I
>> > am going to assume the trouble is within Vista WinMail for now. McAfee
>> > is
>> > still on full strength.
>
>>Gary wrote:
>>
>> I too am running an experiment of sorts. I just upgraded the XP partition
>> on
>> my dual-booting laptop to Vista. I don't need XP any longer since I'm
>> satisfied
>> that Vista will fulfill my computing needs. Anyway, the new install uses
>> AVG
>> antivirus (with no email scanning). The old Vista install, which
>> developed a
>> stuck 'ghost' header in the Outbox, used OneCare for antivirus.
>> I'm anxious to see if the new Vista install develops a similar problem.
>>
>> --
>> Gary VanderMolen
>>

<<Why do you insist on persisting with McAfee...?>>

1) It is free for 90 days.
2) McAfee Sr. Tech. says they are working on finding a root cause if it
turns out to be in their system. MS Techs. say they are at least aware
something is going on.
3) My new Gateway Vista system is working great, port access is stable on my
network for file sharing & I don't want to introduce the potential for new
issues to have to spend time studying & fixing if I install CA suite now. If
the stuck outbox header comes back a 3rd time, it now only takes a few
minutes to correct - down from an hour.
4) I need something & McAfee is the least resistance so might as well be it.
5) I would debate that it is really "very clear" that McAfee is the cause of
the problem, I've discovered no facts or reasoning pointing to any
identifiable root cause & I spent many hours researching it. Intermittent
issues are the toughest.

T

"Steve Cochran" wrote:

> Why do you insist on persisting with McAfee since its very clear that it is
> causing the problem?
>
> steve
>

McAfee has a long long history of messing up OE and now WinMail.

steve

"Trick" <Trick@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:AA3BE19C-CAF4-4143-84E8-432A4B47E644@microsoft.com...
> <<Why do you insist on persisting with McAfee...?>>
>
> 1) It is free for 90 days.
> 2) McAfee Sr. Tech. says they are working on finding a root cause if it
> turns out to be in their system. MS Techs. say they are at least aware
> something is going on.
> 3) My new Gateway Vista system is working great, port access is stable on
> my
> network for file sharing & I don't want to introduce the potential for new
> issues to have to spend time studying & fixing if I install CA suite now.
> If
> the stuck outbox header comes back a 3rd time, it now only takes a few
> minutes to correct - down from an hour.
> 4) I need something & McAfee is the least resistance so might as well be
> it.
> 5) I would debate that it is really "very clear" that McAfee is the cause
> of
> the problem, I've discovered no facts or reasoning pointing to any
> identifiable root cause & I spent many hours researching it. Intermittent
> issues are the toughest.
>
> T
>
> "Steve Cochran" wrote:
>
>> Why do you insist on persisting with McAfee since its very clear that it
>> is
>> causing the problem?
>>
>> steve
>>

"Trick" <Trick@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:AA3BE19C-CAF4-4143-84E8-432A4B47E644@microsoft.com...
> <<Why do you insist on persisting with McAfee...?>>
>
> 1) It is free for 90 days.
> 2) McAfee Sr. Tech. says they are working on finding a root cause if it
> turns out to be in their system. MS Techs. say they are at least aware
> something is going on.
> 3) My new Gateway Vista system is working great, port access is stable on
> my
> network for file sharing & I don't want to introduce the potential for new
> issues to have to spend time studying & fixing if I install CA suite now.
> If
> the stuck outbox header comes back a 3rd time, it now only takes a few
> minutes to correct - down from an hour.
> 4) I need something & McAfee is the least resistance so might as well be
> it.
> 5) I would debate that it is really "very clear" that McAfee is the cause
> of
> the problem, I've discovered no facts or reasoning pointing to any
> identifiable root cause & I spent many hours researching it. Intermittent
> issues are the toughest.


McAfee and Norton are both incompatible with have a well functioning
installation of any version of Windows released in this century.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Answer in newsgroup. Don't expect an answer to email.

I'm sorry Frank. I couldn't understand your response.

"McAfee and Norton are both incompatible with have a well functioning
> installation of any version of Windows released in this century."

I also have the free McAfee on my brand new Dell with Vista Home Premium and
have had the same problem. I did a temporary fix until it (probably)
reoccured. What Virus program do you recommend for use with Vista. ????
Thanks
--
Montana


"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" wrote:

> "Trick" <Trick@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:AA3BE19C-CAF4-4143-84E8-432A4B47E644@microsoft.com...
> > <<Why do you insist on persisting with McAfee...?>>
> >
> > 1) It is free for 90 days.
> > 2) McAfee Sr. Tech. says they are working on finding a root cause if it
> > turns out to be in their system. MS Techs. say they are at least aware
> > something is going on.
> > 3) My new Gateway Vista system is working great, port access is stable on
> > my
> > network for file sharing & I don't want to introduce the potential for new
> > issues to have to spend time studying & fixing if I install CA suite now.
> > If
> > the stuck outbox header comes back a 3rd time, it now only takes a few
> > minutes to correct - down from an hour.
> > 4) I need something & McAfee is the least resistance so might as well be
> > it.
> > 5) I would debate that it is really "very clear" that McAfee is the cause
> > of
> > the problem, I've discovered no facts or reasoning pointing to any
> > identifiable root cause & I spent many hours researching it. Intermittent
> > issues are the toughest.
>
>
> McAfee and Norton are both incompatible with have a well functioning
> installation of any version of Windows released in this century.
>
> --
> Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
> http://www.fjsmjs.com
> Answer in newsgroup. Don't expect an answer to email.
>
>

<<McAfee..has history of messing up OE and now WinMail.>>

Steve (and Frank) - So noted. I have a very short history w/McAfee having
used CA's stuff in the past. I'd just like to note no other McAfee issues
(internet access, network or e-mail) have cropped up past the simple stuck
outbox header that is now easily remedied and may even turn out not to be
McAfee's issue, who knows.

I didn't have to change a single setting in McAfee out of the box - all the
changes out of the box were in WinVista or XP. THAT was aggravating way more
than McAfee. I have a pretty plain jane home network. My expectations:
Vista should have been plug & play but it certainly was not.

T

"Steve Cochran" wrote:

> McAfee has a long long history of messing up OE and now WinMail.
>
> steve
>

I have the free version of AVG on one machine, and it's doing well.
I am also evaluating another antivirus program which is free for one year:
http://home3.ca.com/Microsoft/Defaul...?sc_lang=en-US

Gary VanderMolen

"Judy" <Judy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:365B00DC-F88F-496A-8658-D4152101369F@microsoft.com...
>
> I also have the free McAfee on my brand new Dell with Vista Home Premium and
> have had the same problem. I did a temporary fix until it (probably)
> reoccured. What Virus program do you recommend for use with Vista. ????
> Thanks
> --
> Montana

You can certainly install McAfee and use it if you want. I won't let it
near any of my machines and the same applies to Norton / Symantec products.

steve

"Trick" <Trick@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:627C184F-A915-47C2-A55B-A5D48B6C6070@microsoft.com...
> <<McAfee..has history of messing up OE and now WinMail.>>
>
> Steve (and Frank) - So noted. I have a very short history w/McAfee having
> used CA's stuff in the past. I'd just like to note no other McAfee issues
> (internet access, network or e-mail) have cropped up past the simple stuck
> outbox header that is now easily remedied and may even turn out not to be
> McAfee's issue, who knows.
>
> I didn't have to change a single setting in McAfee out of the box - all
> the
> changes out of the box were in WinVista or XP. THAT was aggravating way
> more
> than McAfee. I have a pretty plain jane home network. My expectations:
> Vista should have been plug & play but it certainly was not.
>
> T
>
> "Steve Cochran" wrote:
>
>> McAfee has a long long history of messing up OE and now WinMail.
>>
>> steve
>>

"Judy" <Judy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:365B00DC-F88F-496A-8658-D4152101369F@microsoft.com...
> I'm sorry Frank. I couldn't understand your response.
>
> "McAfee and Norton are both incompatible with have a well functioning
>> installation of any version of Windows released in this century."
>
> I also have the free McAfee on my brand new Dell with Vista Home Premium
> and
> have had the same problem. I did a temporary fix until it (probably)
> reoccured. What Virus program do you recommend for use with Vista. ????
> Thanks

I don't know what part you couldn't understand.

NOD32, or if you want a decent free one, Avast or AVG.
Whatever you use, do a custom install and don't include email scanning.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Answer in newsgroup. Don't expect an answer to email.