Suffering from sending mail from Windows Mail?? Your prayers answe

Reasons for not being able to send mail outbound using Windows Mail:

Some say "Windows Mail is not compatible with most
McAfee and Norton antivirus programs. Those will need to be
uninstalled, NOT just disabled." - Huh?!?!?

Others say "it sounds like interference from a spyware/spamware
program" - what nonsense!!!

It seems for Microsoft it was the best of times, it was the worst of times
when they launched Windows Vista.

Everyone seems to have got some parts of this problem knocked on the head,
but not quite...

The ULTIMATE solution is as follows:

You need to go to TOOLS | ACCOUNTS | Your Email Account
| Servers Tab | click the "My server requires authentication"
and select "Use same settings as my incoming mail server".


Then go to the Advanced Tab, set the port number in the Outgoing mail
(SMTP): to 587.

That should be it..

....and take comfort in the fact that i am watching...

Signing off,

The "H"

"The "H"" <The "H"@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:B0FA8A7F-F047-4A04-9125-25D488A0E132@microsoft.com...
> Reasons for not being able to send mail outbound using Windows Mail:
>
> Some say "Windows Mail is not compatible with most
> McAfee and Norton antivirus programs. Those will need to be
> uninstalled, NOT just disabled." - Huh?!?!?
>
> Others say "it sounds like interference from a spyware/spamware
> program" - what nonsense!!!
>
> It seems for Microsoft it was the best of times, it was the worst of times
> when they launched Windows Vista.
>
> Everyone seems to have got some parts of this problem knocked on the head,
> but not quite...
>
> The ULTIMATE solution is as follows:
>
> You need to go to TOOLS | ACCOUNTS | Your Email Account
> | Servers Tab | click the "My server requires authentication"
> and select "Use same settings as my incoming mail server".
>
>
> Then go to the Advanced Tab, set the port number in the Outgoing mail
> (SMTP): to 587.
>
> That should be it..
>
> ...and take comfort in the fact that i am watching...
>
> Signing off,
>
> The "H"

Thank you for your April 1 contribution. :-) We all enjoyed it. Now back
to serious work.
--
Regards, BobF.

Authentication and port 587 only works IF your email provider has a server
set up to use those settings. Mine doesn't, and most don't.
One size does not fit all.


--
Vista Home Premium 32 SP1
http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview


"The "H"" <The "H"@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:B0FA8A7F-F047-4A04-9125-25D488A0E132@microsoft.com...
> Reasons for not being able to send mail outbound using Windows Mail:
>
> Some say "Windows Mail is not compatible with most
> McAfee and Norton antivirus programs. Those will need to be
> uninstalled, NOT just disabled." - Huh?!?!?
>
> Others say "it sounds like interference from a spyware/spamware
> program" - what nonsense!!!
>
> It seems for Microsoft it was the best of times, it was the worst of times
> when they launched Windows Vista.
>
> Everyone seems to have got some parts of this problem knocked on the head,
> but not quite...
>
> The ULTIMATE solution is as follows:
>
> You need to go to TOOLS | ACCOUNTS | Your Email Account
> | Servers Tab | click the "My server requires authentication"
> and select "Use same settings as my incoming mail server".
>
>
> Then go to the Advanced Tab, set the port number in the Outgoing mail
> (SMTP): to 587.
>
> That should be it..
>
> ...and take comfort in the fact that i am watching...
>
> Signing off,
>
> The "H"

NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!! It's not an April Fool's (if that's what you
mean't...but if you didn't mean that, then what did you mean). You must
BELIEVE ME...this solution works...Try it...

The "H"

"BobF." wrote:

>
> "The "H"" <The "H"@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:B0FA8A7F-F047-4A04-9125-25D488A0E132@microsoft.com...
> > Reasons for not being able to send mail outbound using Windows Mail:
> >
> > Some say "Windows Mail is not compatible with most
> > McAfee and Norton antivirus programs. Those will need to be
> > uninstalled, NOT just disabled." - Huh?!?!?
> >
> > Others say "it sounds like interference from a spyware/spamware
> > program" - what nonsense!!!
> >
> > It seems for Microsoft it was the best of times, it was the worst of times
> > when they launched Windows Vista.
> >
> > Everyone seems to have got some parts of this problem knocked on the head,
> > but not quite...
> >
> > The ULTIMATE solution is as follows:
> >
> > You need to go to TOOLS | ACCOUNTS | Your Email Account
> > | Servers Tab | click the "My server requires authentication"
> > and select "Use same settings as my incoming mail server".
> >
> >
> > Then go to the Advanced Tab, set the port number in the Outgoing mail
> > (SMTP): to 587.
> >
> > That should be it..
> >
> > ...and take comfort in the fact that i am watching...
> >
> > Signing off,
> >
> > The "H"
>
> Thank you for your April 1 contribution. :-) We all enjoyed it. Now back
> to serious work.
> --
> Regards, BobF.
>

Oh, now we do have a problem. I apologize. Well, if you have been around
this board for any period of time you would have observed that all the cases
that you have sighted have been proven positive. Anyone, or all of them,
can and have caused Email to not operate properly. The configuration
process turns out to be quit complex and people on this board have spent an
in ordinal amount of time and patience, not to say, facing lots of user
frustration, trying to find the reason(s) why their Email didn't come up
cleanly. There is no simply (ULTIMATE) solution. Actually, I take that
back, there is a simple solution but it's always different, and hard to
find. The error messages help point the way. But your solutions at the
bottom don't always work. Not all providers require or will accept these
settings. So, please just sit back and watch the MVPs and MVP "helpers" do
their work. You will see a lot of common stuff (routine). You will also
see solutions that vary by Mail Service Provider.

--
Regards, BobF.
"The "H"" <TheH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4F8B119C-B576-4714-95D8-EADAED588416@microsoft.com...
> NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!! It's not an April Fool's (if that's what you
> mean't...but if you didn't mean that, then what did you mean). You must
> BELIEVE ME...this solution works...Try it...
>
> The "H"
>
> "BobF." wrote:
>
>>
>> "The "H"" <The "H"@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:B0FA8A7F-F047-4A04-9125-25D488A0E132@microsoft.com...
>> > Reasons for not being able to send mail outbound using Windows Mail:
>> >
>> > Some say "Windows Mail is not compatible with most
>> > McAfee and Norton antivirus programs. Those will need to be
>> > uninstalled, NOT just disabled." - Huh?!?!?
>> >
>> > Others say "it sounds like interference from a spyware/spamware
>> > program" - what nonsense!!!
>> >
>> > It seems for Microsoft it was the best of times, it was the worst of
>> > times
>> > when they launched Windows Vista.
>> >
>> > Everyone seems to have got some parts of this problem knocked on the
>> > head,
>> > but not quite...
>> >
>> > The ULTIMATE solution is as follows:
>> >
>> > You need to go to TOOLS | ACCOUNTS | Your Email Account
>> > | Servers Tab | click the "My server requires authentication"
>> > and select "Use same settings as my incoming mail server".
>> >
>> >
>> > Then go to the Advanced Tab, set the port number in the Outgoing mail
>> > (SMTP): to 587.
>> >
>> > That should be it..
>> >
>> > ...and take comfort in the fact that i am watching...
>> >
>> > Signing off,
>> >
>> > The "H"
>>
>> Thank you for your April 1 contribution. :-) We all enjoyed it. Now
>> back
>> to serious work.
>> --
>> Regards, BobF.
>>

"Oh..." (He said whimperingly, thinking everyone had a GMAIL account).

The "H"

"Dave" wrote:

> Authentication and port 587 only works IF your email provider has a server
> set up to use those settings. Mine doesn't, and most don't.
> One size does not fit all.
>
>
> --
> Vista Home Premium 32 SP1
> http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview
>
>
> "The "H"" <The "H"@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:B0FA8A7F-F047-4A04-9125-25D488A0E132@microsoft.com...
> > Reasons for not being able to send mail outbound using Windows Mail:
> >
> > Some say "Windows Mail is not compatible with most
> > McAfee and Norton antivirus programs. Those will need to be
> > uninstalled, NOT just disabled." - Huh?!?!?
> >
> > Others say "it sounds like interference from a spyware/spamware
> > program" - what nonsense!!!
> >
> > It seems for Microsoft it was the best of times, it was the worst of times
> > when they launched Windows Vista.
> >
> > Everyone seems to have got some parts of this problem knocked on the head,
> > but not quite...
> >
> > The ULTIMATE solution is as follows:
> >
> > You need to go to TOOLS | ACCOUNTS | Your Email Account
> > | Servers Tab | click the "My server requires authentication"
> > and select "Use same settings as my incoming mail server".
> >
> >
> > Then go to the Advanced Tab, set the port number in the Outgoing mail
> > (SMTP): to 587.
> >
> > That should be it..
> >
> > ...and take comfort in the fact that i am watching...
> >
> > Signing off,
> >
> > The "H"
>
>

Well, that certainly would simplify things, if everyone used the same email
provider.
;-0


--
Vista Home Premium 32 SP1
http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview


"The "H"" <TheH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1BA6944C-1DC0-476C-89A6-FFC41A3FB4C1@microsoft.com...
> "Oh..." (He said whimperingly, thinking everyone had a GMAIL account).
>
> The "H"
>
> "Dave" wrote:
>
>> Authentication and port 587 only works IF your email provider has a
>> server
>> set up to use those settings. Mine doesn't, and most don't.
>> One size does not fit all.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Vista Home Premium 32 SP1
>> http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview
>>
>>
>> "The "H"" <The "H"@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:B0FA8A7F-F047-4A04-9125-25D488A0E132@microsoft.com...
>> > Reasons for not being able to send mail outbound using Windows Mail:
>> >
>> > Some say "Windows Mail is not compatible with most
>> > McAfee and Norton antivirus programs. Those will need to be
>> > uninstalled, NOT just disabled." - Huh?!?!?
>> >
>> > Others say "it sounds like interference from a spyware/spamware
>> > program" - what nonsense!!!
>> >
>> > It seems for Microsoft it was the best of times, it was the worst of
>> > times
>> > when they launched Windows Vista.
>> >
>> > Everyone seems to have got some parts of this problem knocked on the
>> > head,
>> > but not quite...
>> >
>> > The ULTIMATE solution is as follows:
>> >
>> > You need to go to TOOLS | ACCOUNTS | Your Email Account
>> > | Servers Tab | click the "My server requires authentication"
>> > and select "Use same settings as my incoming mail server".
>> >
>> >
>> > Then go to the Advanced Tab, set the port number in the Outgoing mail
>> > (SMTP): to 587.
>> >
>> > That should be it..
>> >
>> > ...and take comfort in the fact that i am watching...
>> >
>> > Signing off,
>> >
>> > The "H"
>>
>>

A "one solution fits all problems"? Not likely!
Leave troubleshooting to the seasoned experts who have been
doing this for a long time.

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)


"The "H"" <The "H"@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:B0FA8A7F-F047-4A04-9125-25D488A0E132@microsoft.com...
> Reasons for not being able to send mail outbound using Windows Mail:
>
> Some say "Windows Mail is not compatible with most
> McAfee and Norton antivirus programs. Those will need to be
> uninstalled, NOT just disabled." - Huh?!?!?
>
> Others say "it sounds like interference from a spyware/spamware
> program" - what nonsense!!!
>
> It seems for Microsoft it was the best of times, it was the worst of times
> when they launched Windows Vista.
>
> Everyone seems to have got some parts of this problem knocked on the head,
> but not quite...
>
> The ULTIMATE solution is as follows:
>
> You need to go to TOOLS | ACCOUNTS | Your Email Account
> | Servers Tab | click the "My server requires authentication"
> and select "Use same settings as my incoming mail server".
>
>
> Then go to the Advanced Tab, set the port number in the Outgoing mail
> (SMTP): to 587.
>
> That should be it..
>
> ...and take comfort in the fact that i am watching...
>
> Signing off,
>
> The "H"

"The "H"" <The "H"@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:B0FA8A7F-F047-4A04-9125-25D488A0E132@microsoft.com...
> Reasons for not being able to send mail outbound using Windows Mail:
>
> Some say "Windows Mail is not compatible with most
> McAfee and Norton antivirus programs. Those will need to be
> uninstalled, NOT just disabled." - Huh?!?!?
>
> Others say "it sounds like interference from a spyware/spamware
> program" - what nonsense!!!
>
> It seems for Microsoft it was the best of times, it was the worst of times
> when they launched Windows Vista.
>
> Everyone seems to have got some parts of this problem knocked on the head,
> but not quite...
>
> The ULTIMATE solution is as follows:
>
> You need to go to TOOLS | ACCOUNTS | Your Email Account
> | Servers Tab | click the "My server requires authentication"
> and select "Use same settings as my incoming mail server".
>
>
> Then go to the Advanced Tab, set the port number in the Outgoing mail
> (SMTP): to 587.
>
> That should be it..
>
> ...and take comfort in the fact that i am watching...
>
> Signing off,
>
> The "H"

That should do it for some email providers, but email providers
aren't all alike in which of the approximately 65,000 ports
they'll let you use in connecting.

I had e-mail service for 2 hours yesterday jut after I got my new computer -
today I cannot send or receive - I spent 4 hours on the phone with Comcast
today - they finally gave up said it was a Microsoft problem - they took me
through all of the steps as suggested by the "H" at leat six times - no luck
- so thanks to this wonderful Windows mail innovation, I am now totally
without e-mail capability, (except for posting on this info site). I have no
idea where to go next.
--
River Ron


"The "H"" wrote:

> Reasons for not being able to send mail outbound using Windows Mail:
>
> Some say "Windows Mail is not compatible with most
> McAfee and Norton antivirus programs. Those will need to be
> uninstalled, NOT just disabled." - Huh?!?!?
>
> Others say "it sounds like interference from a spyware/spamware
> program" - what nonsense!!!
>
> It seems for Microsoft it was the best of times, it was the worst of times
> when they launched Windows Vista.
>
> Everyone seems to have got some parts of this problem knocked on the head,
> but not quite...
>
> The ULTIMATE solution is as follows:
>
> You need to go to TOOLS | ACCOUNTS | Your Email Account
> | Servers Tab | click the "My server requires authentication"
> and select "Use same settings as my incoming mail server".
>
>
> Then go to the Advanced Tab, set the port number in the Outgoing mail
> (SMTP): to 587.
>
> That should be it..
>
> ...and take comfort in the fact that i am watching...
>
> Signing off,
>
> The "H"