Newsreader screws up threads

First time I fired up the new Mail, downloaded some newsgroups, and lots of
the threads were non-contiguous! Had the same issue under XP, but I could
delete the downloaded headers and download again and would be ok for a
while - didn't work with Vista - I have replies in the top level, with NO
IDEA which thread the reply was for!

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Mike Matheny

I think the Windows Mail News reader is fine. However, it is fairly common
knowledge that the Microsoft hosted newsgroups have their own set of issues.
Even if you are accessing them from your own news server. Your news server
can only download what is there.

Having said that, I'm not so sure about your news server
(host.jsc.nasa.gov). Looks like you may have an issue there too.

Bottom line, I have not seen any problems with the Windows Mail news reader
screwing up threads.

-Frank

"Mike Matheny" <thomasdotmdotmathenyatnasadotgov> wrote in message
news:OjTjgYzXHHA.4940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> First time I fired up the new Mail, downloaded some newsgroups, and lots
> of the threads were non-contiguous! Had the same issue under XP, but I
> could delete the downloaded headers and download again and would be ok for
> a while - didn't work with Vista - I have replies in the top level, with
> NO IDEA which thread the reply was for!
>
> --
>
> Mike Matheny
>
>
>
>

Go to Tools | Options | Read and uncheck the option to download xxx headers
at a time. See if that gives you a better experience. That's a really
flaky feature.

steve

"Mike Matheny" <thomasdotmdotmathenyatnasadotgov> wrote in message
news:OjTjgYzXHHA.4940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> First time I fired up the new Mail, downloaded some newsgroups, and lots
> of the threads were non-contiguous! Had the same issue under XP, but I
> could delete the downloaded headers and download again and would be ok for
> a while - didn't work with Vista - I have replies in the top level, with
> NO IDEA which thread the reply was for!
>
> --
>
> Mike Matheny
>
>
>
>

This is the MS newsgroups, not NASA newsgroups!

--

Mike Matheny


"Frankster" <Frank@SPAM2TRASH.com> wrote in message
news:y_WdnRu2gPvwoHHYnZ2dnUVZ_ragnZ2d@giganews.com ...
>I think the Windows Mail News reader is fine. However, it is fairly common
>knowledge that the Microsoft hosted newsgroups have their own set of
>issues. Even if you are accessing them from your own news server. Your
>news server can only download what is there.
>
> Having said that, I'm not so sure about your news server
> (host.jsc.nasa.gov). Looks like you may have an issue there too.
>
> Bottom line, I have not seen any problems with the Windows Mail news
> reader screwing up threads.
>
> -Frank
>
> "Mike Matheny" <thomasdotmdotmathenyatnasadotgov> wrote in message
> news:OjTjgYzXHHA.4940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> First time I fired up the new Mail, downloaded some newsgroups, and lots
>> of the threads were non-contiguous! Had the same issue under XP, but I
>> could delete the downloaded headers and download again and would be ok
>> for a while - didn't work with Vista - I have replies in the top level,
>> with NO IDEA which thread the reply was for!
>>
>> --
>>
>> Mike Matheny
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

I always uncheck that. I may give it another whirl after my initial
distaste for how almost EVERYTHING changed in Vista!

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Mike Matheny


"Steve Cochran" <scochran@oehelp.com> wrote in message
news:019B5348-C15E-437A-8867-8A66D480AD2F@microsoft.com...
> Go to Tools | Options | Read and uncheck the option to download xxx
> headers at a time. See if that gives you a better experience. That's a
> really flaky feature.
>
> steve
>
> "Mike Matheny" <thomasdotmdotmathenyatnasadotgov> wrote in message
> news:OjTjgYzXHHA.4940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> First time I fired up the new Mail, downloaded some newsgroups, and lots
>> of the threads were non-contiguous! Had the same issue under XP, but I
>> could delete the downloaded headers and download again and would be ok
>> for a while - didn't work with Vista - I have replies in the top level,
>> with NO IDEA which thread the reply was for!
>>
>> --
>>
>> Mike Matheny
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

What is your point, Mike?
There is no requirement to only read this newsgroup on
msnews.microsoft.com. Other servers also carry this newsgroup,
although probably not as well.

Gary VanderMolen

"Mike Matheny" <thomasdotmdotmathenyatnasadotgov> wrote in message news:OgUH$O9aHHA.2552@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> This is the MS newsgroups, not NASA newsgroups!
>
> --
>
> Mike Matheny
>
>
> "Frankster" <Frank@SPAM2TRASH.com> wrote in message
> news:y_WdnRu2gPvwoHHYnZ2dnUVZ_ragnZ2d@giganews.com ...
>>I think the Windows Mail News reader is fine. However, it is fairly common
>>knowledge that the Microsoft hosted newsgroups have their own set of
>>issues. Even if you are accessing them from your own news server. Your
>>news server can only download what is there.
>>
>> Having said that, I'm not so sure about your news server
>> (host.jsc.nasa.gov). Looks like you may have an issue there too.
>>
>> Bottom line, I have not seen any problems with the Windows Mail news
>> reader screwing up threads.
>>
>> -Frank
>>
>> "Mike Matheny" <thomasdotmdotmathenyatnasadotgov> wrote in message
>> news:OjTjgYzXHHA.4940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> First time I fired up the new Mail, downloaded some newsgroups, and lots
>>> of the threads were non-contiguous! Had the same issue under XP, but I
>>> could delete the downloaded headers and download again and would be ok
>>> for a while - didn't work with Vista - I have replies in the top level,
>>> with NO IDEA which thread the reply was for!
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Mike Matheny
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

the difference is in the frequency the host is updating the content.
since it is ms news groups they are constantly up to date. using your isp or a different news server you have to depend on their update cycling to be up to date.



mikeyhsd@comcast.net



"Gary VanderMolen" <gary@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message news:%23R1SSDBbHHA.3616@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
What is your point, Mike?
There is no requirement to only read this newsgroup on
msnews.microsoft.com. Other servers also carry this newsgroup,
although probably not as well.

Gary VanderMolen

"Mike Matheny" <thomasdotmdotmathenyatnasadotgov> wrote in message news:OgUH$O9aHHA.2552@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> This is the MS newsgroups, not NASA newsgroups!
>
> --
>
> Mike Matheny
>
>
> "Frankster" <Frank@SPAM2TRASH.com> wrote in message
> news:y_WdnRu2gPvwoHHYnZ2dnUVZ_ragnZ2d@giganews.com ...
>>I think the Windows Mail News reader is fine. However, it is fairly common
>>knowledge that the Microsoft hosted newsgroups have their own set of
>>issues. Even if you are accessing them from your own news server. Your
>>news server can only download what is there.
>>
>> Having said that, I'm not so sure about your news server
>> (host.jsc.nasa.gov). Looks like you may have an issue there too.
>>
>> Bottom line, I have not seen any problems with the Windows Mail news
>> reader screwing up threads.
>>
>> -Frank
>>
>> "Mike Matheny" <thomasdotmdotmathenyatnasadotgov> wrote in message
>> news:OjTjgYzXHHA.4940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> First time I fired up the new Mail, downloaded some newsgroups, and lots
>>> of the threads were non-contiguous! Had the same issue under XP, but I
>>> could delete the downloaded headers and download again and would be ok
>>> for a while - didn't work with Vista - I have replies in the top level,
>>> with NO IDEA which thread the reply was for!
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Mike Matheny
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

"Gary VanderMolen" <gary@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
news:%23R1SSDBbHHA.3616@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> What is your point, Mike?
> There is no requirement to only read this newsgroup on
> msnews.microsoft.com. Other servers also carry this newsgroup,
> although probably not as well.

I read newsgroups from news.microsoft.com
is that just an alias for msnews.microsoft.com?

Tom Lake

"Tom Lake" <tlake@twcny.rr.com> wrote in message news:eeky1bJbHHA.4140@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> I read newsgroups from news.microsoft.com
> is that just an alias for msnews.microsoft.com?

Yes, both server names point to the same IP address: 207.46.248.16.
--
Gary VanderMolen

My point is it is the READER that screws up the thread order! Does anyone
use a free reader they like?

--

Mike Matheny


"Gary VanderMolen" <gary@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
news:%23R1SSDBbHHA.3616@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> What is your point, Mike?
> There is no requirement to only read this newsgroup on
> msnews.microsoft.com. Other servers also carry this newsgroup,
> although probably not as well.
>
> Gary VanderMolen
>
> "Mike Matheny" <thomasdotmdotmathenyatnasadotgov> wrote in message
> news:OgUH$O9aHHA.2552@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> This is the MS newsgroups, not NASA newsgroups!
>>
>> --
>>
>> Mike Matheny
>>
>>
>> "Frankster" <Frank@SPAM2TRASH.com> wrote in message
>> news:y_WdnRu2gPvwoHHYnZ2dnUVZ_ragnZ2d@giganews.com ...
>>>I think the Windows Mail News reader is fine. However, it is fairly
>>>common knowledge that the Microsoft hosted newsgroups have their own set
>>>of issues. Even if you are accessing them from your own news server.
>>>Your news server can only download what is there.
>>>
>>> Having said that, I'm not so sure about your news server
>>> (host.jsc.nasa.gov). Looks like you may have an issue there too.
>>>
>>> Bottom line, I have not seen any problems with the Windows Mail news
>>> reader screwing up threads.
>>>
>>> -Frank
>>>
>>> "Mike Matheny" <thomasdotmdotmathenyatnasadotgov> wrote in message
>>> news:OjTjgYzXHHA.4940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> First time I fired up the new Mail, downloaded some newsgroups, and
>>>> lots of the threads were non-contiguous! Had the same issue under XP,
>>>> but I could delete the downloaded headers and download again and would
>>>> be ok for a while - didn't work with Vista - I have replies in the top
>>>> level, with NO IDEA which thread the reply was for!
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Mike Matheny
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>