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  #11 (permalink)  
Old 12-14-2007
Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE,OE/WM
 

Posts: n/a
Re: Combine/Sync Window Mail files?
"Ken" <krlorenz@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:OncaNOlPIHA.4584@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> I'm not sure if we are communicating!? I agree, if you set up folders
> under ....\Local Folders\"Your Folders" Windows Mail acts like you think
> it should (folder names and *.eml files are visible). However, the point
> I am trying to make is if you set up your folders under .....\Local
> Folders\Inbox\"Your Folders" Windows Mail puts everything including the
> folder name in the WindowsMailMSMessageStore (or some other mysterious
> place). Try it some time. It does some unusual things with the folders
> and *.eml files that start out as a Inbox sub folder.
>
> "Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE,OE/WM" <franksaunders@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:%23nxIdzfPIHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> "Ken" <krlorenz@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:uBJJiKYPIHA.4684@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>I confess I like Windows Mail better than Outlook Express. That
>>>said....I have to ask the same question too - if the .eml files are not
>>>in the WindowsMail.MSMessageStore then where the heck are they? I store
>>>my Windows Mail stuff in D:\WindowsMail\Ken\Local Folders\Inbox\*.
>>>(Windows Mail sets up everthing after D:\WindowsMail) The "*" means I
>>>have created sub folders (while in Windows Mail) within the Inbox folder
>>>to store my various emails. I have 15+ sub folders with hundreds of
>>>emails stored in them. The only *.eml files I can find in the Inbox are
>>>the ones I have not yet moved to an Inbox sub folder. Once I move them
>>>within Windows Mail they disappear. The sub folders where I put the
>>>emails are also invisible. There are a whole bunch of .eml files in the
>>>"Sent" folder. What am I missing?!!
>>>
>>> Also, I made a mistake and set up a sub folder to hold emails outside
>>> the Inbox folder and it shows up under Local Folders with the .eml file
>>> visible even though I moved the folder back into the Inbox. I cannot
>>> make it go away! If I manually delete the .eml in this folder Windows
>>> Mail says it cannot find the email that is supposed to be in the folder.
>>> If I manually delete the folder it comes back the next time I start
>>> Windows Mail. If I delete the sub folder in Windows Mail it finally
>>> goes away.
>>>
>>> So it looks like one should set up sub folders outside the Inbox and
>>> then Windows Mail will show the .eml files. Have I stumbled into a
>>> Windows Mail quirk by setting up sub folders under the Inbox?
>>>
>>> "Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE,OE/WM" <franksaunders@mvps.org> wrote in
>>> message news:1D5E7652-F540-4BC7-BB2A-AF8DC0C3748F@microsoft.com...
>>>> "Ken" <krlorenz@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:uFLlzTLPIHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Look's like the good old days of a simple file structure used by
>>>>> Outlook Express are gone with VistaMail. I keep all my VistaMail in a
>>>>> separate "DATA" partition. That keeps my stuff from getting lost in
>>>>> the Operating System partition. Anyway as far as I can tell, Vista
>>>>> Mail keeps the emails in a "database?" called
>>>>> "WindowsMail.MSMessageStore". That makes it impossible for a generic
>>>>> Sync program to get at the individual messages. So... given few
>>>>> alternatives I can live with the above solution. Maybe somebody out
>>>>> there will develop a MessageStore Sync-er to address the issue!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In many ways WinMail is easier. The email is stored as separate EML
>>>> files, one per message.
>>>> WindowsMail.MSMessageStore does not contain any messages, but it
>>>> contains information about them to speed up WinMail so that it doesn't
>>>> have to actually look at each message for most operations.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE,OE/WM
>>>> www.fjsmjs.com
>>>> Do not send email
>>>

>>
>> My storage file in Windows Mail is:
>> C:\Users\Frank\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Mail
>> Which means that the EML files are in subfolders of
>> C:\Users\Frank\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Mail\Local Folders
>> Now, in WinMail I have a subfolder under Sent Items named Sent Items Old.
>> So what if the title is not what I should have made it.) It's messages
>> are in
>> C:\Users\Frank\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Mail\Local Folder\Imported
>> Folders\Sent Items
>> I also have a folder under Local Folders in WinMail named fjsmjs whose
>> EML files are in
>> C:\Users\Frank\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Mail\Local Folder\Imported
>> Folders\fjsmjs
>>
>>
>> --
>> Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE,OE/WM
>> www.fjsmjs.com
>> Do not send email

>


I made a new folder. It appeared under
C:\Users\Frank\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Mail\Local Folder\Imported
Folders\Inbox
I put some messages in it. They appeared in
C:\Users\Frank\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Mail\Local Folder\Imported
Folders\Inbox\Test
WindowsMail.MSMessageStore has information about the messages but the EML
files are where I just said. I have no idea why WinMail put the folder in
the Inbox under Imported Folders\Inbox instead of the Inbox directly under
Local Folders.

--
Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE,OE/WM
www.fjsmjs.com
Do not reply with email

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  #12 (permalink)  
Old 12-15-2007
Ken
 

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Re: Combine/Sync Window Mail files?
I give up.

"Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE,OE/WM" <franksaunders@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:eDKzIEmPIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> "Ken" <krlorenz@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:OncaNOlPIHA.4584@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> I'm not sure if we are communicating!? I agree, if you set up folders
>> under ....\Local Folders\"Your Folders" Windows Mail acts like you think
>> it should (folder names and *.eml files are visible). However, the point
>> I am trying to make is if you set up your folders under .....\Local
>> Folders\Inbox\"Your Folders" Windows Mail puts everything including the
>> folder name in the WindowsMailMSMessageStore (or some other mysterious
>> place). Try it some time. It does some unusual things with the folders
>> and *.eml files that start out as a Inbox sub folder.
>>
>> "Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE,OE/WM" <franksaunders@mvps.org> wrote in
>> message news:%23nxIdzfPIHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> "Ken" <krlorenz@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:uBJJiKYPIHA.4684@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>I confess I like Windows Mail better than Outlook Express. That
>>>>said....I have to ask the same question too - if the .eml files are not
>>>>in the WindowsMail.MSMessageStore then where the heck are they? I store
>>>>my Windows Mail stuff in D:\WindowsMail\Ken\Local Folders\Inbox\*.
>>>>(Windows Mail sets up everthing after D:\WindowsMail) The "*" means I
>>>>have created sub folders (while in Windows Mail) within the Inbox folder
>>>>to store my various emails. I have 15+ sub folders with hundreds of
>>>>emails stored in them. The only *.eml files I can find in the Inbox are
>>>>the ones I have not yet moved to an Inbox sub folder. Once I move them
>>>>within Windows Mail they disappear. The sub folders where I put the
>>>>emails are also invisible. There are a whole bunch of .eml files in the
>>>>"Sent" folder. What am I missing?!!
>>>>
>>>> Also, I made a mistake and set up a sub folder to hold emails outside
>>>> the Inbox folder and it shows up under Local Folders with the .eml file
>>>> visible even though I moved the folder back into the Inbox. I cannot
>>>> make it go away! If I manually delete the .eml in this folder Windows
>>>> Mail says it cannot find the email that is supposed to be in the
>>>> folder. If I manually delete the folder it comes back the next time I
>>>> start Windows Mail. If I delete the sub folder in Windows Mail it
>>>> finally goes away.
>>>>
>>>> So it looks like one should set up sub folders outside the Inbox and
>>>> then Windows Mail will show the .eml files. Have I stumbled into a
>>>> Windows Mail quirk by setting up sub folders under the Inbox?
>>>>
>>>> "Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE,OE/WM" <franksaunders@mvps.org> wrote in
>>>> message news:1D5E7652-F540-4BC7-BB2A-AF8DC0C3748F@microsoft.com...
>>>>> "Ken" <krlorenz@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:uFLlzTLPIHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Look's like the good old days of a simple file structure used by
>>>>>> Outlook Express are gone with VistaMail. I keep all my VistaMail in
>>>>>> a separate "DATA" partition. That keeps my stuff from getting lost
>>>>>> in the Operating System partition. Anyway as far as I can tell,
>>>>>> Vista Mail keeps the emails in a "database?" called
>>>>>> "WindowsMail.MSMessageStore". That makes it impossible for a generic
>>>>>> Sync program to get at the individual messages. So... given few
>>>>>> alternatives I can live with the above solution. Maybe somebody out
>>>>>> there will develop a MessageStore Sync-er to address the issue!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In many ways WinMail is easier. The email is stored as separate EML
>>>>> files, one per message.
>>>>> WindowsMail.MSMessageStore does not contain any messages, but it
>>>>> contains information about them to speed up WinMail so that it doesn't
>>>>> have to actually look at each message for most operations.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE,OE/WM
>>>>> www.fjsmjs.com
>>>>> Do not send email
>>>>
>>>
>>> My storage file in Windows Mail is:
>>> C:\Users\Frank\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Mail
>>> Which means that the EML files are in subfolders of
>>> C:\Users\Frank\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Mail\Local Folders
>>> Now, in WinMail I have a subfolder under Sent Items named Sent Items
>>> Old. So what if the title is not what I should have made it.) It's
>>> messages are in
>>> C:\Users\Frank\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Mail\Local
>>> Folder\Imported Folders\Sent Items
>>> I also have a folder under Local Folders in WinMail named fjsmjs whose
>>> EML files are in
>>> C:\Users\Frank\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Mail\Local
>>> Folder\Imported Folders\fjsmjs
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE,OE/WM
>>> www.fjsmjs.com
>>> Do not send email

>>

>
> I made a new folder. It appeared under
> C:\Users\Frank\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Mail\Local Folder\Imported
> Folders\Inbox
> I put some messages in it. They appeared in
> C:\Users\Frank\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Mail\Local Folder\Imported
> Folders\Inbox\Test
> WindowsMail.MSMessageStore has information about the messages but the EML
> files are where I just said. I have no idea why WinMail put the folder in
> the Inbox under Imported Folders\Inbox instead of the Inbox directly under
> Local Folders.
>
> --
> Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE,OE/WM
> www.fjsmjs.com
> Do not reply with email


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